I remember when this chapter was released, the author tweeted "akane is the type of girl that would follow with you to hell where as kana is the type of girl that would pull you out of hell" the wording might have been different tho
dude, _everyone_ in this show needs some form of therapy. For example you should look up the lyrics to the ending, which is all about Ruby. Aqua’s just the least good at hiding it atm for obvious reasons lol
@@itachi00507yep, especially when we get deeper look into the entertainment industry, the stuff with aqua and akane is literally child's play comparatively
Akane is trying to give Aqua what (she believes) he was lacking at the moment, which is someone to accept all of him & give him understanding, because Aqua has been hiding parts of himself such as being Ai's child & his own trauma he hasn't yet recovered from. I think Aqua allowing Akane to see his child actor video (embarassing past) & telling her his true motivation are Aqua's way of trying to test how far Akane's words of acceptance & wanting to carry his burden together will go. He clearly didn't expect her response, even saying "don't say such things lightly" even though he's the one who's bringing it up first & Akane is responding earnestly
i really wish the anime didnt over dramatise it tho. the manga never changed her expression. so it actually comes off as more eerie that way in the manga
Probably the best "set up" episode I've ever seen in anime. Typically the set up is defended as "this is just the set up" to excuse any flaws in it. But this certainly is what a setup episode should be: hype building.
I think this is my favorite episode IN THE ENTIRE SHOW. The animation this time specifically is INSANE. Thematically the first episode might be better, but I just love this episode SO MUCH.
bold statement of you to say, we even haven't see the actual play yet, or the arc after, Ruby famous manga panels episode come to adaptation would be cool
Ruby was talking about how Ai, their mother, was a single teen high school girl... Aqua would not put another girl in that situation knowing their upbringing is what she meant.
Idk if its just me but the anime makes Akane feel more yandere like than i imagined in the manga , i cant really explain why like how her eyes completely changed when she said "I'd help you kill them" but in the manga her eyes were pretty normal and she didnt seem THAT crazy , but still i fucking love her .
Yeah, looking back, her eyes don’t look that hollow in the manga panel to me - there’s a bit of light. And of course there isn’t the highlighting transition with the blink, or the dramatic zoom out with a sound effect. You just turn the page, and there’s a splash panel of Akane calmly answering Aqua.
Enjoyed your reaction. What was brilliant about this episode was how it subverted my expectations - things moved faster than I thought - both the Akane-Aqua scenes and the opening of the play itself, and they crossed over characters from the "Ruby side" with the play side. It made for a fresh, surprising, and dynamic episode.
GOA and Abiko are so cute! I ship them so much. The banter between Kana and Akane is amazing. Also, the animation, voice acting, and sound design are superb as always, especially in Akane's screentime.
I believe I saw somewhere that there will be 90 MINUTE EPISODES during this season. I hope that was true. Now, as a manga reader, if accurate, that tells me that season 2 is going to cover such mega amazing, horrific, stunning superb plot that some, perhaps many, viewers are going to need therapy from "hype" and "rage overdose." Even if I'm actually wrong or my info was mixed up, even if there is only 6-7 episodes left, it's going to be TOO MUCH. I skimmed the manga and accidentally covered some of what is undoubtedly going to be in here, and I screamed. It was like that reading Mushoku Tensei the first time vibes, where I was shock and alarmed with how fucking grand the fiction I was consuming was.
just a thing to note for Ruby's scene (for the people that didn't stick around for discussion): We see her dread the idea of Aqua doing THAT, because her father was also the same as he impregnated Ai, causing her to have children which consequentially lead to her death She wouldn't want Aqua to do the same terrible thing her father did to her Mother Especially since for celebrities in Japan, romantic relationships alone are almost taboo much less SEXUAL ones, so doing so could ruin Akane's life and the lives of any potential children they may have
@@beyondviolet i know you'd be surprised how many people didn't understand it though i know these guys did, but just for others who might not have stuck around for discussion
Incredible episode for Akane. Her storyline in s1 was so heavy that I didn't really get a sense of who she was as a character before s2. She's great! SuperB addition to this cast.
It's actually insane how many people miss the implication of what Akane said and take it as face value when Akane literally explained her train of thought literally seconds after saying it. Atp she already knew the burden Aqua carried but she is keeping it a secret because she wants Aqua to willingly let her in as she knew he has a trauma and prob don't wanna talk about it, She was gentle and mindful of the trauma hence why even in the manga Aqua trusted her with his secrets. In hindsight Aqua is just gauging and trying to scare off Akane by being "edgy" but as we see it, she gave the best response that Aqua needed in order to trust her more, she doesn't want to do it as much as possible she doesn't want it to happen but if push comes to shove she will be there for him as she promised, it's not about being right or wrong as quoted by her having someone that's by your side even when things gone to shit is what Akane wants for Aqua she just doesn't want him to be alone anymore.
@BrandonRS95 it didn't, tho? Because of her, Aqua mellowed out with someone and managed to take a breather because he opened up with Akane. I don't wanna spoil anyone the details, but Akane gave him an option, and he did live peacefully because of Akane. She managed to do what she intended as Aqua managed to find a safe space with her.
@@jedsale8971 Impossible to really go into details on all this without spoilers and I don't want to post spoilers. That said,[MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD] a lot of that was AFTER he got news where he thought so and so was no longer living. Either way, the main takeaway for me was how it was only a temporary fix and not something that solved the root issue, because we know how things turn out once he figures out so and so is actually still alive
@@jedsale8971 I totally agree with you. It seriously amazes me that some people (mostly some of the most unhinged kana fans) saw Aqua being hugged and comforted by someone who wasn't Kana, and decided to think of the worst possible outcomes of that. Including, but not limited to, thinking that Akane is this super manipulative mastermind who will have so much influence over Aqua that she will even INCENTIVATE HIM to kill his father. Wild.
That's been the best episode so far. So much happened. Man, I foresee Akane going too far and Aqua having to step in. Hope I'm wrong and they at least still remain close despite everything. in season 1 I made peace with Akane taking the sideline with them being "business only", but now that she's been a real contender, I don't wanna let go off what are great, dramatic interactions and someone who's a serious G
Aqua and Akane are perfect for each other if you want to ensure both character spiral to their worst points and live a life in hell. They're similar, but that's a problem
love the fact itll reveal later the things akane did is the best option she have to help save aqua akane is the smartest, understanding & nicest in the series ngl
From what I understand, Ruby is mad at the thought that Aqua would be doing naughty stuff with a highschooler because either: - She remembers that he was an adult in his other life, or - Ai was a highschooler when she got pregnant, and Aqua should know not to inflict that burden to a highschooler
She specifically says he wouldn’t risk getting a high-school girl pregnant, so it’s always seemed clear to me that that was the crux. That’s the part she could never accept from him, not when he knows better than anyone what it can do to a girl’s life - especially if she’s a famous performer. (Oh, and one who’s already proven herself vulnerable to public hostility.)
Slight correction about the end of the discussion, I understood that Kana stage character was shipped with the protagonist by the fans, and the Princesses characters took a backseat, but in the play now it's the Princesses companion, not the protagonist that has an emotional scene with her. Your point stands though! It's fascinating to see the parallels.
I love Akane's character because of what she brings to the show. Plus I love the method acting bits she does and her piecing together things. But I just couldn't get behind her "I'll support whatever because he saved my life." That's not how you save someone. I dunno if it's my psych facility training speaking or my personal issues with a woman who supported a toxic man that eventually led to my own suffering, but yeah no I hope they're not endgame. There's nothing wrong with being there for someone and supporting them through resolving their trauma, but encouraging a person's worst impulses and joining in on it is not it. Unless probably both of them develop a healthier coping mechanism for their traumas. Also while I'm Team Kana, I have limited evidence that they're also endgame so shipping-wise, I think Akane's "claim" is stronger this episode.
Because from season 1 Kana has been given more shows and more in-depth than the main character, Ruby. Didn't you notice that compared to the director and Melt, Ruby's own voice and emotions were not portrayed at all? Kana and Akane have much more screen time than the main character Ruby. You have to wonder or understand it. The original story has been anime since more than two years later. Including the fact that there were very few rubies, they put it all together well. One should have doubts about the growth and center of the main character Ruby in the first stage. The original story is a climax, but her activity is not until the end.
I remember reading this chapter and wanting Aqua to stay the fuck away from Akane lmao. That ain't healthy for you, my man. What's up with all the blue haired girls who get saved/helped by protag and become obsessed with them? From Rem all the way to Hinata, there's just so many lol.
Man, so much to talk about, and you didn’t even manage to get to how Akane’s dark childhood secret throws her rivalry with Kana into a new light! So, couple thoughts on the love triangle. One, the big thing that the anime’s first episode cut out from volume 1 was the flash-forwards at the beginning of each chapter. The chapter where we first met Kana started with her teenage self being interviewed, and she backpedaled on something she said thoughtlessly with a comment that “Ah-kun” would be mad at her. So it was clear from the beginning that she’d be involved with Aqua later on. If anything, Akane’s the one whose role and relationship with Aqua grew. (Not that Tokyo Blade maps _that_ great onto any of this, because Aqua plays a secondary character - Blade (Himekawa) is the hero, Tsurugi (Kana) is a sidekick, and Princess Saya is head of an enemy faction, with Touki at her side.) The other thing is what I wrote on /r/manga when chapter 52, with the balcony scene, came out three years ago: “If anything, this chapter leaves me more convinced that Aqua's character arc will lead him to a Kana end in the long run. Chapter 50 made the difference between his relationships with Akane and Kana explicit: Akane's instinct was to soothe, to comfort, to _support,_ but Kana scolded her for coddling him and bluntly pointed out what the root of the problem was, and he knew she was right. While none of his relationships are exactly healthy right now, Kana's the one who can call him out on his bullshit. Being with Akane means stagnation, or even regression. “Akane's brilliant and kind and has some skills that are very valuable in relationships, but she's an enabler, and staying with her means going down the path to tragedy. His relationship with Kana is where he can find the character growth that he really needs if he's to overcome his flaws and find a happy ending.” (I’d say the defining theme of Aqua’s relationship with Akane has been him projecting Ai onto her - in the manga, before he tells Miyako that “people die easily” after the suicide attempt, there’s a one-panel flashback to Ai’s body. The defining theme of his relationship with Kana, meanwhile, has been _him pushing her forward._ From their first meeting when they were little, to the Sweet Today set, to recruiting her as an idol, to helping her train, to firing her up at the concert. And in the last episode, she made an attempt to do the same for him.)
Two points I just thought of. "Great genes" -- and Ai could be a bit shallow at times, so she probably wouldn't have dated anyone who wasn't handsome (at least 17 years ago). So the father either is or was probably good looking. And while the first day of the play is next episode, and Aqua probably will pull off something, can he sustain that emotion not just once, but for the entire run of a live play over weeks at a time? That may be extra stressful.... (also give time for Melt to grow, if he doesn't hit it out of the park on opening day).
Aqua interacts with her co-stars and the director, but Ruby doesn't have that. He eats Akane's food every night, so Ruby stays home alone. Melt is the first man Ruby comes into contact with outside of her brother in the manga. Ruby is a rookie idol who doesn't have much knowledge of the showbiz industry compared to the other characters. It is an episode to teach you what to look out for when you are asked for your contact information in the entertainment industry.
It's interesting for Aqua to continue the thoughts he was having when he was playing catch with Kana in season 1. Aqua ISN'T completely the doctor, he is his own being, and as he gets older and continues to have his own unique experiences in his own unique body, he's becoming more and more separate from who the doctor was. In my mind, there's even a question if Aqua has always been a completely separate entity who was more or less possessed by the doctor when he was born, but because he was just a baby, the doctor's personality completely dominated. However, now that he's becoming more and more mature, his own personality is establishing itself separate from the doctor and the doctor's control is becoming more indirect. Likely Aqua referring to the doctor as a separate entity is just psychological, but what if it's more?
I think it's more that he's a new separate person who has the doctors memories (rather than possessed). So as a kid without much experience with the world, the doctor's memories are much stronger. And as he gets older, his memories of his past life is fading except the strongest ones (core memories) which are all associated with Ai who also happens to be the last person he interacted with mostly before he died.
@@kk_sj3635 I think you're most likely correct, it's just interesting to speculate. From a psychological standpoint, the effects of either could be similar. Either way, Aqua feels almost like there's a stranger driving him forward.
I believe that it is impossible to use a total psychological means, since we do not have any proven case of reincarnation happening to analyze. But I'm curious about psychology and neuroscience and my knowledge of the Oshi no Ko anime and manga is as follows. Aqua and the Doctor are literally the same person, the difference is that the brain, body, genes, etc. are all Aqua's, and only the doctor's memories were kept. Besides, he is having a completely new life than his previous one, so he is evolving. It's like 10 year old you to 20 year old you, They are both you, but with different memories, different experiences, different body, different environment, etc. Think about it in a much more extreme way where you literally swap bodies, that's basically it. In short: They are the same person, but they are different from each other because of what they have experienced. For example, when Aqua was born he was already as intelligent as a trained doctor (yes, that's absurd).
I think the next episode is my favorite part of the arc I can't wait, in the scene with Aqua and Akane there's a single star that shines brighter than the others just like when Ruby first performed and there's also one in the first episode with Goro and Ai, also remember the line it's a boyfriend job to not let his girlfriend die
@@CheesyDale You just described a scene that will happen next episode? LMAO. That scene never happened here. There was no fucking star except the dark ones this episode?
@@kk_sj3635 the star in the sky in the balcony scene where Akane said she would go to hell with him dumbass, I literally put the first episode and the performance episode for reference how do you get that wrong lmao
@@kk_sj3635 there's literally only one scene where Aqua with Akane when the stars are out hence the star brighter than the others(stars in the sky) who would mistake that as stars in their eyes lmao
Casting → Ruby is a newcomer. Kana and Akane are veterans. Veterans play an important role in Japanese productions. I think Kana is the heroine in the end. The growth and feelings of Ruby, the hero, need to be drawn first. The author has not drawn it. She rarely plays the role of the hero in the manga. Ruby is a new idol with little knowledge of the entertainment industry compared to the other characters. Akane knows about Aqua's revenge and PTSD, but Ruby does not. Ruby has little presence in the original story as well. The story reaches a climax, but Ruby is not very active. For Aqua, the previous life is completely traumatic, so elements of her previous life do not work.
Akane knows about Aqua's revenge and PTSD. sister Ruby doesn't know that. It's Ruby's dislike for her father who got Ai pregnant. Her depiction of emotions is clearly lacking. Kana is active from start to finish. Akane is a character who is on Aqua's side from start to finish. Ruby rarely appears in this story and has nothing to do with Aqua.
You're doing the Tokyo Blade parallel as if Kana wasn't the one who was introduced as the love interest while Akane is the shoehorn side character the fans insist should be the main girl lol. Oh, sweet summer children... Sure, if the moral of the story was revenge is good then Aqua and Akane would be great, but it's pretty clear that this revenge is drowning Aqua and what he wants is light and happiness 🤷🏾♀️
Yeah I think the majority of people are glancing over the fact that Kana's situation actually fits Princess Saya more. Especially since Akane wasn't even intended to be a character past the Lovenow arc. And I think it's also unfortunate how many view Akane's willingness to murder as a good thing for Aqua and their relationship. All Aqua wants is to be free of his guilt and move away from the topic of revenge, Akane supporting those aspects of his personality is very much a bad thing. He needs someone who's wiling to stop him from taking the wrong path.
@@dks8180hmm, I would think when akane finally see how this stuff is actually mentally draining him first-hand, she might turn and try to stop him then. But who knows, let's see how it goes.
Kana is the most popular character of oshi no ko, she has almost 3 times as many users as akane has (on mal). It is quite the reverse, aqua kana is the most popular shipping. The tokyo blade manga does reflect the oshi no ko manga, but in a different way
Kana is literally the most popular character in oshi no ko on MAL btw Her ship is more popular And are we forgetting that akane was practically non existent in S1? The parallel is correct akane is currently playing the role to be "aqua girlfriend" but people like kana that are lively would naturally take everything away from her including her position as the "girlfriend" to which she hated badly😂 Saya also has the same conflicted personality as akane whilst tsueugi is lively like kana So I think the parallels check out
@@Aman_Mondal That would be Nino (you'll find out who this is later in the manga don't search it up if you haven't read it lol) Akane is just hella supportive of Aqua cuz of what they've both been through
@@AStixMatism I was a Manga reader long before the Anime even came out so yeah I know Nino is the actual full fledged Yandere I am just saying that Akane gives off very Yandere like vibes
Best Girl is who you deem the one you find most appealing for whatever reason (could be merely entertainment). It's fictional, so doesn't have to relate to real life.
well until now i've only seen one reactor being unhappy about Akane's declaration Aqua really does not need encouragement with the killing stuff 25:57 Aqua really does not want Kana of all people to see his "terrible" acting for...reasons For the same reason as he tries to keep her at arms lenght 30:40 i'm glad, you guys understand Aqua's reincarnation better than most reactors who just see him as a 30y old man in a 17y old body 33:30 you need to consider the future, would Aqua be happy after killing someone?(even if it's his mom's killer) Would he be able to live a normal life? (assuming he doesn't end up in jail)..to me personally the CURRENT Akane ends up being more of a toxic influence with her willingness to help (she is still a great moral support to him in other areas tho) Your analisys of the play in paralel with the love triangle is interesting, though i won't talk more about it cuz spoilers for the next arcs and i won't share my opinion on it, just though i'd say it might be a nice catch.
@@Shinigami00Azael sorry mate she cant even cook, i dont wanna eat uber eats everyday, sorry mate, no debates at all, Akane is type of "partner in crime" waifu, thats all I needed as a waifu, foods and a partner in crime.
It's really weird that Kana would say that Akane's acting says "I'm right and you're wrong" when Kana, as great as she is otherwise, is a bit of a know-it-all who seems to love lecturing people about her wisdom. Every time she has, admittedly valuable, information to impart, she adopts a bit of a lecturing stance and tone. She may have been knocked down a couple of pegs in recent years, but you see in the previous episodes that as soon as she is surrounded by the LaLaLai actors who were impressed with her initial rehearsal, she gets this know-it-all expression on her face again and is carrying on to them. It's kind of cute, but it's just weird that she, of all people, would be bent out of shape by someone else's acting style saying "I'm right and you're wrong".
We don't even know where that came from so it could be from a past interaction. Akane's method is to study a role thoroughly whereas Kana's strength is adapting to scenes and other actors. I don't think it's about being a know-it-all. Also she does know it all, she's been through it and I don't know where you were in season 1 when she said her confidence is a coping mechanism. Also she doesn't say that Akane's methods are wrong. She's just saying that her methods are also valid.
@@kk_sj3635 I'm thinking that maybe one of the reasons Kana and Akane spark off each other so much is that they both have this need to be in the right.
Okay, so now that we're almost halfway through the season, I really need 1) Aqua to confide his secret to Kana, so their relationship can develop. 2) Aqua to have a moment of vulnerability with Kana so that their relationship can develop. 3) Both of them doing ANYTHING so that their relationship can develop. COME ON, WHERE ARE THEIR MOMENTS? 😭
@@itachi00507It’s funny because Akane is just a tool in Aqua’s toolbox. She’s served her purpose and isn’t needed anymore. Congrats🎉 Hold this L. I guess you love overrated characters because akane is almost as overrated as Itachi.
I remember when this chapter was released, the author tweeted "akane is the type of girl that would follow with you to hell where as kana is the type of girl that would pull you out of hell" the wording might have been different tho
Oooooh I like that quote a lot ! As someone who is up to date with the scan, it's so accurate
That's about right. It's so real
@@Wryvan as of the manga, he hasn't forgiven anyone, he literally said ruby's revenge is over, and his is not.
@@Wryvan okay more than one person can have a positive effect on him lol
No hell mentioned.
"Akane is the type of girl who takes you there, and Kana is the girl who take you back."
Both aqua and Akane need therapy but for very different reasons 😭
dude, _everyone_ in this show needs some form of therapy. For example you should look up the lyrics to the ending, which is all about Ruby. Aqua’s just the least good at hiding it atm for obvious reasons lol
yup as manga readers, everyone in this series actually not normal
aquakane actually pretty tame compare to others alot worse
And Ruby
@@itachi00507yep, especially when we get deeper look into the entertainment industry, the stuff with aqua and akane is literally child's play comparatively
@@itachi00507nah not really them and ruby needs the most therapy after ai and kamiki
Akane is trying to give Aqua what (she believes) he was lacking at the moment, which is someone to accept all of him & give him understanding, because Aqua has been hiding parts of himself such as being Ai's child & his own trauma he hasn't yet recovered from.
I think Aqua allowing Akane to see his child actor video (embarassing past) & telling her his true motivation are Aqua's way of trying to test how far Akane's words of acceptance & wanting to carry his burden together will go. He clearly didn't expect her response, even saying "don't say such things lightly" even though he's the one who's bringing it up first & Akane is responding earnestly
I agree with you here my friend she amzing and care for him
3:35 Guys the way I absolutely *folded* 🫡 I’m glad Ben got as excited as I did seeing Yandere Akane animated
i really wish the anime didnt over dramatise it tho. the manga never changed her expression. so it actually comes off as more eerie that way in the manga
>named Kamoshida
>creeps on minors
Someone needs a *ahem* "change of heart"
PERSONA MENTION
*starts belting a song about a desert and river*
Persona 5 reaction when
Probably the best "set up" episode I've ever seen in anime. Typically the set up is defended as "this is just the set up" to excuse any flaws in it. But this certainly is what a setup episode should be: hype building.
I think this is my favorite episode IN THE ENTIRE SHOW. The animation this time specifically is INSANE. Thematically the first episode might be better, but I just love this episode SO MUCH.
It's because for this episode they outsourced it to studio IG
virgin anime: outsources to cheap studios to cut cost
chad anime: outsources to literally one of the best studio in Japan
bold statement of you to say, we even haven't see the actual play yet, or the arc after, Ruby famous manga panels episode come to adaptation would be cool
@@nya69696 obviously it's implied it's my favorite SO FAR. We haven't seen the rest yet.
Me too is amzing episode❤
Ruby was talking about how Ai, their mother, was a single teen high school girl... Aqua would not put another girl in that situation knowing their upbringing is what she meant.
Why do you exclude the possibility that she simply is a huge brocon ? We know in the manga that Ruby is in love with Aqua
@@IinkcIickif I remember that happened after she realized he was the doctor not before that. At this point she doesn’t have those feelings
That's taking awhile not until She know Who Aqua really was yet @@IinkcIick
Idk if its just me but the anime makes Akane feel more yandere like than i imagined in the manga , i cant really explain why like how her eyes completely changed when she said "I'd help you kill them" but in the manga her eyes were pretty normal and she didnt seem THAT crazy , but still i fucking love her .
Yeah, looking back, her eyes don’t look that hollow in the manga panel to me - there’s a bit of light. And of course there isn’t the highlighting transition with the blink, or the dramatic zoom out with a sound effect. You just turn the page, and there’s a splash panel of Akane calmly answering Aqua.
Enjoyed your reaction. What was brilliant about this episode was how it subverted my expectations - things moved faster than I thought - both the Akane-Aqua scenes and the opening of the play itself, and they crossed over characters from the "Ruby side" with the play side. It made for a fresh, surprising, and dynamic episode.
GOA and Abiko are so cute!
I ship them so much.
The banter between Kana and Akane is amazing.
Also, the animation, voice acting, and sound design are superb as always, especially in Akane's screentime.
I want to see more of Abiko and GOA so much.
She really is ride or die😂
3:04 I remember reading the manga of Oshi No Ko and I remember this part When Aqua And Akane is on the balcony
They did that scene so much justice it's insane, gotta love when they improve the source material that way
They really did a lot of justice with this scene
Amazing episode, so glad we got the reaction so soon!
rare dark ruby moment. So glad we finally get to see her this ep
its so peak man. And we are finally at the performance. The rest of this season is gonna be so amazing man
Banger episode, banger reaction
As always
I believe I saw somewhere that there will be 90 MINUTE EPISODES during this season. I hope that was true.
Now, as a manga reader, if accurate, that tells me that season 2 is going to cover such mega amazing, horrific, stunning superb plot that some, perhaps many, viewers are going to need therapy from "hype" and "rage overdose." Even if I'm actually wrong or my info was mixed up, even if there is only 6-7 episodes left, it's going to be TOO MUCH. I skimmed the manga and accidentally covered some of what is undoubtedly going to be in here, and I screamed. It was like that reading Mushoku Tensei the first time vibes, where I was shock and alarmed with how fucking grand the fiction I was consuming was.
I think I saw the news of multiple 90 minutes episodes too.
If it's true then the next episode is definitely gonna be a 90 minutes episode.
I feel like it's gonna be season finale where they cover up entire arc in one episode
just a thing to note for Ruby's scene (for the people that didn't stick around for discussion):
We see her dread the idea of Aqua doing THAT, because her father was also the same as he impregnated Ai, causing her to have children which consequentially lead to her death
She wouldn't want Aqua to do the same terrible thing her father did to her Mother
Especially since for celebrities in Japan, romantic relationships alone are almost taboo much less SEXUAL ones, so doing so could ruin Akane's life and the lives of any potential children they may have
Just a preview what's gonna happen later on
I thought that was pretty obvious lol
They also mentioned that in their discussion.
@@beyondviolet i know
you'd be surprised how many people didn't understand it though
i know these guys did, but just for others who might not have stuck around for discussion
@@AStixMatism I mean I watched one other reaction that also didn’t get it, my surprise is more about how people haven’t
Akane Supremacy!
Akane truly is Best Girl.
Incredible episode for Akane. Her storyline in s1 was so heavy that I didn't really get a sense of who she was as a character before s2. She's great! SuperB addition to this cast.
everyone be ready for next episode. we all are about to witness absolute cinema.
Akane's ability to change the subject from kill to helping her on stage is impressive.
Precocious baby
It's actually insane how many people miss the implication of what Akane said and take it as face value when Akane literally explained her train of thought literally seconds after saying it. Atp she already knew the burden Aqua carried but she is keeping it a secret because she wants Aqua to willingly let her in as she knew he has a trauma and prob don't wanna talk about it, She was gentle and mindful of the trauma hence why even in the manga Aqua trusted her with his secrets. In hindsight Aqua is just gauging and trying to scare off Akane by being "edgy" but as we see it, she gave the best response that Aqua needed in order to trust her more, she doesn't want to do it as much as possible she doesn't want it to happen but if push comes to shove she will be there for him as she promised, it's not about being right or wrong as quoted by her having someone that's by your side even when things gone to shit is what Akane wants for Aqua she just doesn't want him to be alone anymore.
She has good intentions obviously, but her actions would only serve to make things worse for Aqua.
@BrandonRS95 it didn't, tho? Because of her, Aqua mellowed out with someone and managed to take a breather because he opened up with Akane. I don't wanna spoil anyone the details, but Akane gave him an option, and he did live peacefully because of Akane. She managed to do what she intended as Aqua managed to find a safe space with her.
@@jedsale8971 Impossible to really go into details on all this without spoilers and I don't want to post spoilers. That said,[MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD] a lot of that was AFTER he got news where he thought so and so was no longer living. Either way, the main takeaway for me was how it was only a temporary fix and not something that solved the root issue, because we know how things turn out once he figures out so and so is actually still alive
@@jedsale8971 I totally agree with you. It seriously amazes me that some people (mostly some of the most unhinged kana fans) saw Aqua being hugged and comforted by someone who wasn't Kana, and decided to think of the worst possible outcomes of that. Including, but not limited to, thinking that Akane is this super manipulative mastermind who will have so much influence over Aqua that she will even INCENTIVATE HIM to kill his father. Wild.
greatest genius actor in history vs greatest genius actor of today
*The greatest genius child actor in history vs the greatest genius child actor of today
Oshi no kaisen
@@Nazar_Melnyk How would you be a genius child actor of today as a non-child tho 🤣
That yellow haired guy is a jerk. Imagine what if Aqua saw him try to get Ruby's contact info 💀
He'll get cancelled the next day because of Aqua if Aqua sees that
I find it hilarious that his surname is Kamoshida too, since that's TWO major assholes with that surname in anime I know now
Subaru is about to return by death again
@@fel524 idk about anime but I remember kamoshida from Persona 5 lol
@@AStixMatism There's a Persona 5 anime so it works lmao
Glad to see your videos up so quickly!
I look forward to watching your videos after each new episode on TV in Japan!
That's been the best episode so far. So much happened.
Man, I foresee Akane going too far and Aqua having to step in. Hope I'm wrong and they at least still remain close despite everything. in season 1 I made peace with Akane taking the sideline with them being "business only", but now that she's been a real contender, I don't wanna let go off what are great, dramatic interactions and someone who's a serious G
Aqua and Akane are perfect for each other if you want to ensure both character spiral to their worst points and live a life in hell. They're similar, but that's a problem
i need the boys reaction 3x05, has been almost forever.
love the fact itll reveal later the things akane did is the best option she have to help save aqua
akane is the smartest, understanding & nicest in the series ngl
🤣🤣🤡
@@justmando9488 oh look what we have here, another 🤡 that cant accept facts lol
Every man's deserved to have akane to their life, including me. 😍
ベン外作業でもしてたのかな？焼けてるの夏っぽい！アナもめちゃくちゃ服装夏っぽくてかわいい😭やっぱり髪もショート似合う〜なんでも似合うけど
あと2人がメルトにめちゃくちゃ入れ込んでるの面白かった！舞台でのメルトの活躍を見た反応も楽しみにしてます🎉
This is essentially a tournament arc with each character having an adversary to face on stage.
From what I understand, Ruby is mad at the thought that Aqua would be doing naughty stuff with a highschooler because either:
- She remembers that he was an adult in his other life, or
- Ai was a highschooler when she got pregnant, and Aqua should know not to inflict that burden to a highschooler
The second
No. 1 is dumb even if it's not the reason. She's 17, it's not like Aqua was using his reincarnated self to date kids.
She specifically says he wouldn’t risk getting a high-school girl pregnant, so it’s always seemed clear to me that that was the crux. That’s the part she could never accept from him, not when he knows better than anyone what it can do to a girl’s life - especially if she’s a famous performer.
(Oh, and one who’s already proven herself vulnerable to public hostility.)
20:12, wow good points. Imagine if they shows lightnings becomes purple and it does what you said. It might be interesting.
Slight correction about the end of the discussion, I understood that Kana stage character was shipped with the protagonist by the fans, and the Princesses characters took a backseat, but in the play now it's the Princesses companion, not the protagonist that has an emotional scene with her.
Your point stands though! It's fascinating to see the parallels.
I love Akane's character because of what she brings to the show. Plus I love the method acting bits she does and her piecing together things.
But I just couldn't get behind her "I'll support whatever because he saved my life."
That's not how you save someone. I dunno if it's my psych facility training speaking or my personal issues with a woman who supported a toxic man that eventually led to my own suffering, but yeah no I hope they're not endgame. There's nothing wrong with being there for someone and supporting them through resolving their trauma, but encouraging a person's worst impulses and joining in on it is not it.
Unless probably both of them develop a healthier coping mechanism for their traumas. Also while I'm Team Kana, I have limited evidence that they're also endgame so shipping-wise, I think Akane's "claim" is stronger this episode.
I love to see your reacting faces :) Can't wait for your reaction on Ep6.
Melt is really redeeming himself after season 1, he's become one of my favourite characters. I love me an underdog.
Wild episode 🤯🤣
I like Oshi No Ko 2×5 anime show!❤🎉😊
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Because from season 1 Kana has been given more shows and more in-depth than the main character, Ruby. Didn't you notice that compared to the director and Melt, Ruby's own voice and emotions were not portrayed at all? Kana and Akane have much more screen time than the main character Ruby. You have to wonder or understand it. The original story has been anime since more than two years later. Including the fact that there were very few rubies, they put it all together well. One should have doubts about the growth and center of the main character Ruby in the first stage. The original story is a climax, but her activity is not until the end.
I remember reading this chapter and wanting Aqua to stay the fuck away from Akane lmao. That ain't healthy for you, my man.
What's up with all the blue haired girls who get saved/helped by protag and become obsessed with them? From Rem all the way to Hinata, there's just so many lol.
@@GGABueno you need to stay away from akane. You definitely don't get her
just you all liking akane too enough reason for us to like you too ❤
Is this the first appearance of Ruby's Dark Staringan?
In s2 yes, but there were already some scenes in s1 (like, for example, her and Aqua's dark star with child Kana)
Hi! Anna and Ben ❤🎉😊
I binged the manga after last episode ... I was jumping up and down on the chapters from this episode. And Akane best girl btw
With how analytically inclined y’all are a show like hunter x hunter would be so perfect for y’all!!!
14:40
Abiko-sensei is cute.
Man, so much to talk about, and you didn’t even manage to get to how Akane’s dark childhood secret throws her rivalry with Kana into a new light!
So, couple thoughts on the love triangle. One, the big thing that the anime’s first episode cut out from volume 1 was the flash-forwards at the beginning of each chapter. The chapter where we first met Kana started with her teenage self being interviewed, and she backpedaled on something she said thoughtlessly with a comment that “Ah-kun” would be mad at her. So it was clear from the beginning that she’d be involved with Aqua later on. If anything, Akane’s the one whose role and relationship with Aqua grew.
(Not that Tokyo Blade maps _that_ great onto any of this, because Aqua plays a secondary character - Blade (Himekawa) is the hero, Tsurugi (Kana) is a sidekick, and Princess Saya is head of an enemy faction, with Touki at her side.)
The other thing is what I wrote on /r/manga when chapter 52, with the balcony scene, came out three years ago: “If anything, this chapter leaves me more convinced that Aqua's character arc will lead him to a Kana end in the long run. Chapter 50 made the difference between his relationships with Akane and Kana explicit: Akane's instinct was to soothe, to comfort, to _support,_ but Kana scolded her for coddling him and bluntly pointed out what the root of the problem was, and he knew she was right. While none of his relationships are exactly healthy right now, Kana's the one who can call him out on his bullshit. Being with Akane means stagnation, or even regression.
“Akane's brilliant and kind and has some skills that are very valuable in relationships, but she's an enabler, and staying with her means going down the path to tragedy. His relationship with Kana is where he can find the character growth that he really needs if he's to overcome his flaws and find a happy ending.”
(I’d say the defining theme of Aqua’s relationship with Akane has been him projecting Ai onto her - in the manga, before he tells Miyako that “people die easily” after the suicide attempt, there’s a one-panel flashback to Ai’s body. The defining theme of his relationship with Kana, meanwhile, has been _him pushing her forward._ From their first meeting when they were little, to the Sweet Today set, to recruiting her as an idol, to helping her train, to firing her up at the concert. And in the last episode, she made an attempt to do the same for him.)
Kana best girl as usual even in an Akane focused episode
Not in this episode lol
Anna I your haircut!❤🎉😊
I suggest scanning the QR code with your phone. 7:08
It's interesting :)
Tokyo Blade - Shinjuku Arc. Abiko really is Gege Akutami in another universe
Let me tell You this. It started this episode! Melt x Ruby is a ship I want! 😂 Great reaction!😃
Two points I just thought of. "Great genes" -- and Ai could be a bit shallow at times, so she probably wouldn't have dated anyone who wasn't handsome (at least 17 years ago). So the father either is or was probably good looking. And while the first day of the play is next episode, and Aqua probably will pull off something, can he sustain that emotion not just once, but for the entire run of a live play over weeks at a time? That may be extra stressful.... (also give time for Melt to grow, if he doesn't hit it out of the park on opening day).
Aqua interacts with her co-stars and the director, but Ruby doesn't have that.
He eats Akane's food every night, so Ruby stays home alone. Melt is the first man Ruby comes into contact with outside of her brother in the manga. Ruby is a rookie idol who doesn't have much knowledge of the showbiz industry compared to the other characters. It is an episode to teach you what to look out for when you are asked for your contact information in the entertainment industry.
The play will be at least 3 episodes long
It's interesting for Aqua to continue the thoughts he was having when he was playing catch with Kana in season 1. Aqua ISN'T completely the doctor, he is his own being, and as he gets older and continues to have his own unique experiences in his own unique body, he's becoming more and more separate from who the doctor was.
In my mind, there's even a question if Aqua has always been a completely separate entity who was more or less possessed by the doctor when he was born, but because he was just a baby, the doctor's personality completely dominated. However, now that he's becoming more and more mature, his own personality is establishing itself separate from the doctor and the doctor's control is becoming more indirect. Likely Aqua referring to the doctor as a separate entity is just psychological, but what if it's more?
I think it's more that he's a new separate person who has the doctors memories (rather than possessed). So as a kid without much experience with the world, the doctor's memories are much stronger. And as he gets older, his memories of his past life is fading except the strongest ones (core memories) which are all associated with Ai who also happens to be the last person he interacted with mostly before he died.
@@kk_sj3635 I think you're most likely correct, it's just interesting to speculate. From a psychological standpoint, the effects of either could be similar. Either way, Aqua feels almost like there's a stranger driving him forward.
I believe that it is impossible to use a total psychological means, since we do not have any proven case of reincarnation happening to analyze. But I'm curious about psychology and neuroscience and my knowledge of the Oshi no Ko anime and manga is as follows.
Aqua and the Doctor are literally the same person, the difference is that the brain, body, genes, etc. are all Aqua's, and only the doctor's memories were kept. Besides, he is having a completely new life than his previous one, so he is evolving. It's like 10 year old you to 20 year old you, They are both you, but with different memories, different experiences, different body, different environment, etc. Think about it in a much more extreme way where you literally swap bodies, that's basically it.
In short: They are the same person, but they are different from each other because of what they have experienced. For example, when Aqua was born he was already as intelligent as a trained doctor (yes, that's absurd).
This season will have 13 episodes.
Team Akane here
this episode was so gooooddddddd
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I say it every episode. Akane is the goat
Melt is the best boy
I think the next episode is my favorite part of the arc I can't wait, in the scene with Aqua and Akane there's a single star that shines brighter than the others just like when Ruby first performed and there's also one in the first episode with Goro and Ai, also remember the line it's a boyfriend job to not let his girlfriend die
Bro really like spoiling, calm down
@@muhajaya3161what did I spoil lmao I literally just mentioned things that happened in the episode
@@CheesyDale You just described a scene that will happen next episode? LMAO. That scene never happened here. There was no fucking star except the dark ones this episode?
@@kk_sj3635 the star in the sky in the balcony scene where Akane said she would go to hell with him dumbass, I literally put the first episode and the performance episode for reference how do you get that wrong lmao
@@kk_sj3635 there's literally only one scene where Aqua with Akane when the stars are out hence the star brighter than the others(stars in the sky) who would mistake that as stars in their eyes lmao
Casting → Ruby is a newcomer. Kana and Akane are veterans.
Veterans play an important role in Japanese productions. I think Kana is the heroine in the end.
The growth and feelings of Ruby, the hero, need to be drawn first. The author has not drawn it. She rarely plays the role of the hero in the manga. Ruby is a new idol with little knowledge of the entertainment industry compared to the other characters. Akane knows about Aqua's revenge and PTSD, but Ruby does not. Ruby has little presence in the original story as well. The story reaches a climax, but Ruby is not very active. For Aqua, the previous life is completely traumatic, so elements of her previous life do not work.
Akane knows about Aqua's revenge and PTSD.
sister Ruby doesn't know that. It's Ruby's dislike for her father who got Ai pregnant.
Her depiction of emotions is clearly lacking. Kana is active from start to finish. Akane is a character who is on Aqua's side from start to finish. Ruby rarely appears in this story and has nothing to do with Aqua.
For all that Akane's love for Aqua seems very intense, I'm not sure it's coming from a healthy place in more ways than one.
That part.
My name is Hon Wiyual Kang I live in Omaha Nebraska I'm South Sudanese American man ❤🎉😊
22:00 Akane Supremacy!!!
You're doing the Tokyo Blade parallel as if Kana wasn't the one who was introduced as the love interest while Akane is the shoehorn side character the fans insist should be the main girl lol. Oh, sweet summer children... Sure, if the moral of the story was revenge is good then Aqua and Akane would be great, but it's pretty clear that this revenge is drowning Aqua and what he wants is light and happiness 🤷🏾♀️
Yeah I think the majority of people are glancing over the fact that Kana's situation actually fits Princess Saya more. Especially since Akane wasn't even intended to be a character past the Lovenow arc. And I think it's also unfortunate how many view Akane's willingness to murder as a good thing for Aqua and their relationship. All Aqua wants is to be free of his guilt and move away from the topic of revenge, Akane supporting those aspects of his personality is very much a bad thing. He needs someone who's wiling to stop him from taking the wrong path.
@@dks8180hmm, I would think when akane finally see how this stuff is actually mentally draining him first-hand, she might turn and try to stop him then.
But who knows, let's see how it goes.
Kana is the most popular character of oshi no ko, she has almost 3 times as many users as akane has (on mal). It is quite the reverse, aqua kana is the most popular shipping.
The tokyo blade manga does reflect the oshi no ko manga, but in a different way
Kana is literally the most popular character in oshi no ko on MAL btw
Her ship is more popular
And are we forgetting that akane was practically non existent in S1?
The parallel is correct akane is currently playing the role to be "aqua girlfriend" but people like kana that are lively would naturally take everything away from her including her position as the "girlfriend" to which she hated badly😂
Saya also has the same conflicted personality as akane whilst tsueugi is lively like kana
So I think the parallels check out
Kana is a self-insert.
The Belle to the main guy's beast, targeted to young readers with imperfect saint syndrome.
'nough said.
And Akane fans still don't wanna accept on twitter that she is a full Yandere
yandere is always the best
@@Aman_Mondal That would be Nino (you'll find out who this is later in the manga don't search it up if you haven't read it lol)
Akane is just hella supportive of Aqua cuz of what they've both been through
@@AStixMatism I was a Manga reader long before the Anime even came out so yeah I know Nino is the actual full fledged Yandere I am just saying that Akane gives off very Yandere like vibes
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Yanderes would try to sabotage Aquas relationships with any other girls (or guys). That's not Akane. That's somewhat Kana tho.
similar to light yagami and misa
Firecracker ?
Peak
Will you react to house of the dragon season 2?
I love Akane as a character but people out here keep telling on themselves when they call a super clear case of co-dependency "best girl".
Best Girl is who you deem the one you find most appealing for whatever reason (could be merely entertainment). It's fictional, so doesn't have to relate to real life.
Never show them oregairu lol
Akane best gurl
well until now i've only seen one reactor being unhappy about Akane's declaration
Aqua really does not need encouragement with the killing stuff
25:57 Aqua really does not want Kana of all people to see his "terrible" acting for...reasons
For the same reason as he tries to keep her at arms lenght
30:40 i'm glad, you guys understand Aqua's reincarnation better than most reactors who just see him as a 30y old man in a 17y old body
33:30 you need to consider the future, would Aqua be happy after killing someone?(even if it's his mom's killer) Would he be able to live a normal life? (assuming he doesn't end up in jail)..to me personally the CURRENT Akane ends up being more of a toxic influence with her willingness to help (she is still a great moral support to him in other areas tho)
Your analisys of the play in paralel with the love triangle is interesting, though i won't talk more about it cuz spoilers for the next arcs and i won't share my opinion on it, just though i'd say it might be a nice catch.
AKANE Best waifu of all time, im sorry guys
Ruby and akane are on top of the verse
Yeah, yeah, totally, just after Arima :)
@@Shinigami00Azael good one 🤣, gotta love Kana
@@Shinigami00Azael im sorry mate, she cant even cook. all she does is UBEREAT
@@Shinigami00Azael sorry mate she cant even cook, i dont wanna eat uber eats everyday, sorry mate, no debates at all, Akane is type of "partner in crime" waifu, thats all I needed as a waifu, foods and a partner in crime.
Kanabros unite!
This is why akane best girl ,not like other girl the pick me girl😂
It's really weird that Kana would say that Akane's acting says "I'm right and you're wrong" when Kana, as great as she is otherwise, is a bit of a know-it-all who seems to love lecturing people about her wisdom. Every time she has, admittedly valuable, information to impart, she adopts a bit of a lecturing stance and tone. She may have been knocked down a couple of pegs in recent years, but you see in the previous episodes that as soon as she is surrounded by the LaLaLai actors who were impressed with her initial rehearsal, she gets this know-it-all expression on her face again and is carrying on to them. It's kind of cute, but it's just weird that she, of all people, would be bent out of shape by someone else's acting style saying "I'm right and you're wrong".
We don't even know where that came from so it could be from a past interaction. Akane's method is to study a role thoroughly whereas Kana's strength is adapting to scenes and other actors. I don't think it's about being a know-it-all. Also she does know it all, she's been through it and I don't know where you were in season 1 when she said her confidence is a coping mechanism.
Also she doesn't say that Akane's methods are wrong. She's just saying that her methods are also valid.
@@kk_sj3635 I'm thinking that maybe one of the reasons Kana and Akane spark off each other so much is that they both have this need to be in the right.
Am I the only one who thinks they're too young to do things like sex? I mean....I agree with Ruby on that.
They're definitely not lol.
@@GGABueno They're teenagers 😐
@@mariabeatriz-no23-lh42 Yeah? That's the age people have their first sexual experiences.
@@GGABueno I'm 16 and I've never had anything with anyone.
@@mariabeatriz-no23-lh42 Ok?
the subtitles are actually abit off....
Okay, so now that we're almost halfway through the season, I really need 1) Aqua to confide his secret to Kana, so their relationship can develop. 2) Aqua to have a moment of vulnerability with Kana so that their relationship can develop. 3) Both of them doing ANYTHING so that their relationship can develop. COME ON, WHERE ARE THEIR MOMENTS? 😭
lmao
its funny because even until hundreds chapter kana character still not develop but regress instead lol
@@itachi00507It’s funny because Akane is just a tool in Aqua’s toolbox. She’s served her purpose and isn’t needed anymore. Congrats🎉 Hold this L. I guess you love overrated characters because akane is almost as overrated as Itachi.
@@justmando9488 these brainles kana fans read manga still think aqua see akane just as a tool just cuz they cant accept the real facts lol 😂
When my friend saw the first season 1 of Ai's death he laughed and then when I said she was real he said I don't know them so I don't care f that guy
But she's not real. Snap back to reality
@@ryaz4704 she was based off a real person
Bro who are you your not slim
@ryaz4704 bro your Bruno mars without the bruno
@@ryaz4704 your real name is skittles
Kana is a bait. Even 120 chapters later they literally have 0 romantic moment. Meanwhile, Ruby turned Aqua’s eyes white twice and they kissed twice
the way i related to aqua after seeing his traumatized and ptsd side...wow..as someone who has cptsd too..
i wanna see more dark ruby
We gonna see it in final episode