EMERL IS BACK?! Sonic x Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings Prologue Teaser Discussion!

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
  • Emerl from Sonic Battle returns in the new Sonic x Shadow Generations Dark Beginnings Prologue animation... yes you read that right... EMERL... THE GIZOID... Nuts man, so many deep cuts with this game!
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  • @StickmanGuides
    @StickmanGuides  Před 7 dny +12

    Quick update: apparently the reason why the timeline doesn’t have all the games Shadow appeared in is because they couldn’t fit them all in the image. Honestly though, kinda wish they just reworked the timeline image in that case lol

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 6 dny +2

      @@StickmanGuides What does it matter lol. You really wanted to see 06 and Forces in a little timeline chart that badly?

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny +2

      @@chrange9714 I mean, it doesn't really matter but they are two of his best appearances in my opinion...

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 6 dny +3

      @@StickmanGuides Nothing in either of them even add to his backstory which was what they were focusing on at the panel as good as his appearances in those. If they had been in the timeline they most likely wouldn't have even mentioned them in any detail

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny +2

      @@chrange9714 womp womp

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 6 dny +3

      @@StickmanGuides Lmao what. Well that was an extremely childish response for zero reason

  • @icesonic358
    @icesonic358 Před 7 dny +36

    They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.

    • @johnbot64
      @johnbot64 Před 7 dny +12

      I guess that makes sense, but why have Sonic Boom? Not only is that game not part of the main series, but you can take Shadow out of that game and nothing would change. He had his own story in 06

    • @dreamcastdazia4753
      @dreamcastdazia4753 Před 7 dny +7

      ​@@johnbot64 He has his own story in 06, Forces and rivals. He was major in the story in rivals 2 and was prevalent in sonic and the black knight and yet they include boom and not them 😂😂😂😂
      He had a big role in boom but since it's non canon I just don't see the point

    • @mavrickindigo
      @mavrickindigo Před 7 dny +4

      @@johnbot64 Kirk's performance in the cartoon was hilarious

    • @GalaxyEViolet
      @GalaxyEViolet Před 5 dny

      @@icesonic358 Not having Shadow's 06 story is a big missed opportunity.

  • @FlashandZach
    @FlashandZach Před 7 dny +31

    I love how you can from just the one scene already tell Emerl did his copy ability as he perfectly mimicked Shadows kick when they clashed. This is gonna be hype and I'm glad to see Emerl back even if its just in this short.

  • @arivivith4375
    @arivivith4375 Před 7 dny +81

    Why do i feel like emerel is the fourth playable character

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny +6

      There is no fourth playable character they already confirmed that

    • @JetYOSHI-vf1cb
      @JetYOSHI-vf1cb Před 7 dny +5

      @@arivivith4375 I thought about that too

    • @novahharold799
      @novahharold799 Před 7 dny +1

      ​@@chrange9714 Damn

    • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
      @SonicTheBlueBlur15 Před 7 dny +6

      @@chrange9714wdym they showed theres a 4th one

    • @JoshioE110
      @JoshioE110 Před 7 dny +2

      @@chrange9714 maybe he could be a playable DLC character in the future.

  • @denjishisui1642
    @denjishisui1642 Před 7 dny +33

    Year of Shadow is simply...amazing, peak if you must.
    I await the 3 episode prologue animation, sonic x shadow gens, and at last the movie.
    I think we can safely say SONIC IS BACK

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 7 dny +3

      Absolutely! Well deserved comeback for Shadow and a welcome return to early 2000s Sonic stuff!

  • @TOHOREMIX
    @TOHOREMIX Před 6 dny +5

    It really ties into Gerald's final journal entry in Sonic Battle. It references Emeral's break out scene here. Ian is really doing his homework

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny +1

      Makes perfect sense! I’m gonna go play some Battle now and really get back into it again!

    • @TOHOREMIX
      @TOHOREMIX Před 6 dny +1

      ​@@StickmanGuides The game is a bit of a slog, BUT the character writing and world building is some of the very best in the series. Have fun

  • @pugman9672
    @pugman9672 Před 7 dny +25

    One of my favorite details is the fact that Spawn has some influence on shadow

  • @peckneck2439
    @peckneck2439 Před 7 dny +8

    They're literally acknowledging Sonic Battle i literally can't. We're so back GBA bros.

  • @Wolfy-Kun
    @Wolfy-Kun Před 7 dny +8

    It's still so cool that it brings back Emerl

  • @gabrielribeiro222
    @gabrielribeiro222 Před 7 dny +6

    Man i cant belive emeral is back i love thet robot and it seens like thy will dive deper on what hapened on the ark cant wait for this

  • @chillihog1543
    @chillihog1543 Před 7 dny +7

    Not suprised Iizuka said he didn’t think of taking inspiration of Vegeta for Shadow, especially since Shadow is more inspired by Mewtwo n the movie Don’t Destroy My Earth cuz of his backstory. However Spawn tho, that I never knew. I don’t know much about Spawn but so hope folks shade light on what’s similarity does Shadow n Spawn have.

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 Před 7 dny

      @@chillihog1543 i mean, shadow does look a lot like Spawn

    • @chillihog1543
      @chillihog1543 Před 7 dny

      @@carso1500 Beside looks

    • @stephaniejohnson5361
      @stephaniejohnson5361 Před 7 dny +1

      To be fair shadow is nothing like Vegeta. People just think that because the writers didn't know anything about shadow so they just made him a vegeta clone

  • @saltbaker8683
    @saltbaker8683 Před 6 dny +2

    If Emerl return, then does Gamma's Countpart from Battle will return as well? Wouldn't surprise If me we get to play as him from his prospective.

  • @SolarFaith
    @SolarFaith Před 7 dny +6

    Sick thumbnail for this video.

  • @elijahthesonicfan4759
    @elijahthesonicfan4759 Před 7 dny +15

    After this shadows going back to Aldi

  • @Retro_expresso
    @Retro_expresso Před 7 dny +2

    If they ever actually bring Emerl back I will die happy

  • @user-cq5kn7tc7g
    @user-cq5kn7tc7g Před 7 dny +1

    The anime style was super amazing so excited for this to happen with 3 episodes

  • @Nathan11107
    @Nathan11107 Před 6 dny

    9:02 "So I think this was definitely put here to forSHADOW that." Nice pun.

  • @localdude2979
    @localdude2979 Před 7 dny +3

    Fitst of all i am vegeta, second of all youre not vegeta type shi when mister Shadow creator said they based him of spwan!! It makes so much sense now! Red and black, with hints of white, and green powers! Thats definitely spawn, and shadow!!

  • @chrange9714
    @chrange9714 Před 7 dny +29

    Izuka's not messing with anyone lol, if he says Shadow wasn't inspired by Vageta then he wasn't inspired by Vageta. Idk why that's so hard to accept especially when it's coming from the literal creator of Shadow. And they didn't show 06 or Forces not because 06 isn't canon or anything but because the timeline was a brief run through of his history. Not a look at every single game he has appeared in. Also Kirk's Shadow has always been great and right up there with Jason and David, he's not just now starting to get good at the role or something.

    • @justcallmekai1554
      @justcallmekai1554 Před 7 dny +6

      Tbh I dont think he ever was. I think its due to the well being poisoned with other actual on purpose parallels to DB like Super Sonic or Silvers backstory so ppl assume the same of Shadow when it isnt. They just have a similar archetype like Hei, Sasuke, Killua etc.

    • @meta13gaming
      @meta13gaming Před 7 dny +1

      @@chrange9714 Spawn with Kabuki facepaint is really intriguing though🤔

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny

      @@meta13gaming What

    • @DuplighostLiebe
      @DuplighostLiebe Před 7 dny +3

      He said Vegeta.
      Who the heck is Vageta?!!
      And no.
      Kirk is great and all, but his performance for Shadow makes him sound too gruff and too old.
      That’s nothing near to David and Jason.
      Even Ian is a lot better than that.
      I’m sorry. But no.
      He has done a lot better than before. But no. I just can’t.

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny

      @@DuplighostLiebe Vageta is a Dragon Ball Z character and yes. Kirk doesn't sound anymore gruff or older than Jason's and David's performances. It is 100% right next to their voices, same with Ian. You don't have to be sorry lol, they're all great and do amazing Shadow voices. He's not "a lot better" he's always been great.

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 Před 7 dny +8

    Wow, Ian flynn cooked…. Im guessing hes doing story right? If not, whoever is, needs to keep cooking like this

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 Před 7 dny +3

      Last i heard all ian flynn is doing is the dialogue, which is an extremely integral part dont gwt me wrong but lets give love to the others aswell

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 Před 7 dny +1

      He is the writer of dark origins yes, and is involved in an unknown capacity in shadow generations itself

  • @crynosinso8324
    @crynosinso8324 Před 7 dny +3

    They can show it on an "official" timeline as much as they want. Sonic X and Boom aren't canon to the mainline games. Too many things contradict them. Also, shouldn't Sonic X Shadow Generations be after Colors rather than after the IDW Comics and Prime? I mean, you could at least split it if you want Shadow Generations to be after those, but Sonic Generations can pretty much only be after Colors.

  • @thetearev7586
    @thetearev7586 Před 6 dny +1

    They need a fighting game, lol. Another sonic advanced battle.

  • @son-of-1810
    @son-of-1810 Před 6 dny

    I’m glad you understood that the history appearances timeline wasn’t meant to be a canon timeline or whatever people misunderstood it as. That would be DC levels of messed up canon right there

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny

      @@son-of-1810 oh yeah no as soon as I saw the games and media listed I knew it was mostly about stand out moments in his history as opposed to what is and isn’t canon

  • @lgill6710
    @lgill6710 Před 7 dny

    This is so raw, and I'm all for it 🔥

  • @DiverseDivinity13
    @DiverseDivinity13 Před 7 dny

    Emerl definetly going to be the 4th playable character

  • @GulpGang
    @GulpGang Před 6 dny

    Yo was in your live stream

  • @tastytango4841
    @tastytango4841 Před 6 dny

    I really hope silver in the future gets more of a bigger highlight as well or just an actual silver the hedgehog game

  • @starpop409
    @starpop409 Před 5 dny

    I played all the GBA games when I was little so I'm loving the return. Of emeral and sonic battle/heroes recognition

  • @Therealones745
    @Therealones745 Před 7 dny

    2:02 I heard on twitter the reason 06 and forces aren’t on the timeline is because of running out of space.

  • @AlexSmith-tp7xu
    @AlexSmith-tp7xu Před 7 dny

    I feel like any time shadow sees those red gun goggles he should go full iron man 3 ptsd, would be an interesting angle. They haven't addressed to the best extent just how traumatized he must be.

  • @sethisevilone02
    @sethisevilone02 Před 7 dny

    That was soo peak

  • @OtejuTimexy-lc8vq
    @OtejuTimexy-lc8vq Před 7 dny

    Maria sounds like Sage man!

  • @kowabonga3552
    @kowabonga3552 Před 5 dny

    Don't get your hopes up Silver fans, Emerl will most likely be the 4th playable character. We gotta wait for the year of DUHMAS to be over, before SEGA starts to give a dam about Silver. 🙄

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy Před 7 dny +1

    Sonic Boom was on the timeline?
    Their shoddy timeline brings shame on all hedgehog kind!

  • @midnighttheumbreon
    @midnighttheumbreon Před 6 dny

    I honestly do genuinely believe they wouldn't he afraid to do another Shadow Game
    HOWEVER
    1. I don't think they would call it Shadow the hedgehog 2 and they would call it Shadow the hedgehog (insert subtitle here)
    2. There would be no guns
    However with that said I don't think they would do that and rather they would continue to mnakje more Sonic Games with multiple playable characters including Shadow

  • @nightbrand8016
    @nightbrand8016 Před 7 dny

    Interesting they included Battle and not Chronicles

  • @Riley-rp6qv
    @Riley-rp6qv Před 7 dny

    Emerald to me will be a boss

  • @nithinshakthithiruppathi4028

    Sonic really doesn’t take a lot of inspiration from DBZ. Only a bit, which every single franchise does.

  • @tailsfrontiers1224
    @tailsfrontiers1224 Před 7 dny +1

    WE NEED A SONIC BATTLE REMASTER OMFGGGGG THEN A SONIC BATTLE 2

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 Před 6 dny

    3:24 pal that came from the month of the creator and if you by any chance took speedsupersonic's sonic adventure 3 hoax video WHICH IS NOT FUNNY too seriously to make this thought of yours

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny

      @@tiagocervera5661 I’m sure Spawn and antiheroes like him were inspirations for Shadow for sure, but I really feel like Vegeta also had to have a lot of influence as well given how Trunks was the inspiration for Silver, but maybe Izuka was more hesitant to say that

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 Před 7 dny

    They also ignored the Rival series on that timeline.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 7 dny

      @@ghostspider2056 True!

    • @ghostspider2056
      @ghostspider2056 Před 7 dny

      @@StickmanGuides Hopefully they at least make a small nod to Gerald’s research about the Ifrit from Rivals 2.

    • @ghostspider2056
      @ghostspider2056 Před 7 dny +2

      @@StickmanGuides Also hopefully the Rival series gets more attention if or when they do a Silver Generations campaign. Being 2 of all 3 games Silver has been playable, aside from the racing car stuff.

  • @darksiders11
    @darksiders11 Před 6 dny

    Knuckles is more like vegeta than shadow.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 6 dny

      @@darksiders11 you know, honestly I kinda see that

  • @YPhilou
    @YPhilou Před 7 dny

    shadow was just mind controlled in Boom 3ds and was a just a rival jerk in Boom Rise of lyric nothing really to talk about em there tf .?

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 Před 7 dny +3

    The upcoming shorts of Sonic X Shadow Generations looks more hype than the Lazy Sonic Colours Ultimate Shorts that were only 2 lazy & boring episodes.

    • @StickmanGuides
      @StickmanGuides  Před 7 dny +3

      Oh yeah this is going to be so much more insane than the Colors Ultimate shorts, but I still think those were cool!

    • @kolkagaming1234
      @kolkagaming1234 Před 7 dny

      @@StickmanGuidesyeah they were cool. But I feel like 2 Episodes was lazy.

    • @dreamcastdazia4753
      @dreamcastdazia4753 Před 7 dny

      ​@@kolkagaming1234 They did 2 episodes for team sonic racing and everyone loves those ones? They did one for Frontiers and Superstars. They're just shorts. It's not supposed to be serious. This shadow one is actually crucial to the lore than the others. The others aren't lazy. Shadows one just has more effort than them because it has to.

  • @punkypony5165
    @punkypony5165 Před 7 dny +5

    "Sonic Boom poor reception" Actually the Sonic Boom show was and still is well received. Its a genuinely good show. Its just the games that were bad.

    • @immasword
      @immasword Před 6 dny

      one of the games, the other two were okay

  • @thermocrat8369
    @thermocrat8369 Před 7 dny +8

    They don’t show 06 or forces because they are still scared of those games

    • @kowabonga3552
      @kowabonga3552 Před 7 dny

      They should be more worried about Unleashed and Lost World, now those game were 💩

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny +4

      No, they don't show them because it's a brief run through of Shadow's history. Not a let's look at every game he's ever been in history.

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny +4

      ​@@kowabonga3552Uh no, neither of those games were 💩 in the slightest

    • @Quarckster
      @Quarckster Před 7 dny

      There are already two stages from the 06 game that have been remade here. That's really good acknowledgement of it, however if the main antagonist of 06 were to appear here, that would be better.

    • @chrange9714
      @chrange9714 Před 7 dny

      @@Quarckster If you're talking about Mephiles technically he wasn't the main antagonist. Solaris was

  • @AyumuTheTamer
    @AyumuTheTamer Před 7 dny +1

    Hmm… I want a spin off for Shadow…
    But I’ve been disappointed by Sonic Team way too many times for me to be optimistic…
    Is Ian Flynn capable of writing a good story for Shadow… yes, We’ve seen his work on Archie…
    Has the Sonic Team mandate add a monkey ranch to a story… also yes, let’s not forget the metal virus issue and Shadow not thinking straight due to how pissed he was towards Sonic (note: Espio was also pissed at Sonic but was able to still put that behind him in order to be able to help more).
    Again, I know they are capable of making a great story… but I have no idea how much “dark” story they are allowed to work with…🤔
    Edit: I would love to be proven wrong with Shadow generations, the animation and the movie…🥲

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 Před 7 dny

      Bitch this looks fantastic, whats wrong with it now? Something extremely miniscule that yall crybabys love to harp on?

  • @gtcproductions4097
    @gtcproductions4097 Před 7 dny

    They just refuse to reference Archie

  • @FlameForces6611
    @FlameForces6611 Před 7 dny

    Wait sonic boom is CANON WHAT!!?
    THAT MAKES NO SENSE

  • @DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE

    something you guys keep overlooking is the fact that The guy who was yelling is the same guy who operates the G.U.N mobile from Sa2 does that mean we’re gonna have a him as a boss?

  • @Stevenkadap
    @Stevenkadap Před 7 dny

    Meh i just want a new standalone shadow game.

  • @icesonic358
    @icesonic358 Před 7 dny +6

    They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.

  • @icesonic358
    @icesonic358 Před 7 dny +2

    They didn't put 06 on the timeline because they ran out of space, a sega rep confirmed this on Twitter.