Kobo Elipsa: In-Depth Review And Guide, Part 1 Of 3
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KOBO ELIPSA PLAYLIST: • Kobo Elipsa
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - General Overview
01:39 - Design And Build Quality
04:49 - Specifications
07:58 - Pen
11:18 - Display
16:30 - General UI
19:04 - Library
24:19 - Reader Functionality: EPUBs
38:49 - Reader Functionality: PDFs
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Here it finally is! The multi-part in-depth review of the brand new Kobo Elipsa, the first 10.3" and note-taking capable ePaper device from Rakuten Kobo. Make sure that you watch all 3 parts for a complete picture of this exciting new device :)
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The review I’ve been waiting for! Thank you!!
that's what I was waiting for, thank you very much. I'm to happy to hear that your better too. Thank you 😁
I've just seen the three part review of Kobo Elipsa. This has helped me a lot to decide if this product was what a was looking for. Thank you so much for so detailed review. 🙂
Thanks so much for this review! I was hesitant when I watched the other review video about the scratches. Thanks for clarifying that the screen does not scratch from using the stylus =)
Love your works! Thanks for the vids, best reviews on youtube
Thank you! Fantastic information - exactly what I needed to know. No PDF annotation as for the ePubs is a deal breaker for me. I'll subscribe in case you discover that they fix this!
First one. Everything by Voja is going to be great. Like your reviews as always. Support!
07:58 you can use the Elipsa with any Microsoft Pen Protocol (MPP) pen (it uses that protocol) , like the surface pen and the Dell Premium Active Pen (PN579X)
Thank you for this in-depth review. It has helped me to make up my mind if I going to get the Kobo Elipsa. The disappearing annotations is problematic. Kobo needs to find ways to resolve the issue
I purchased myself a forma last year before the elipsa and the sage were released. I'm now looking at upgrading it to the elipsa I'm willing to go without the 2 colour led lights as I am severely sight impaired and I'm starting to struggle with the size of the forma screen
Great review. Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to do an in-depth breakdown - other reviews are paper-thin compared to your work.
(21:20) Also that I can't filter Pocket articles by tags. (Pocket allows articles to be tagged, but while I can see those tags in Pocket Web and mobile apps, I can't see them through the Kobo integration)
(17:51) Also that Kobo e-readers sometimes automatically sync when connected to Wi-Fi. It also tends to refresh Pocket articles only when I go to that section, but probably because I have over 100 unread articles.
This is also the first Kobo e-reader I've seen with a loaner device where the reviewer had logged out of Kobo's press account and logged in with their own, which would be something I'd do if I wanted to demonstrate print-replica content like graphic novels after shooting footage showing the existing novels.
Just wanna say excellent review!
Thank you :)
Nice review. I’m leaning towards this. I have the forma, but the ability to mark up books along with a larger size for my older eyes….makes this a win. Kindle seems stuck on the smaller form factor. I don’t mind a closed ecosystem. I never could get the hang of converting books and apps on android ereaders just aren’t as snappy to me.
I hate Amazon, but have to admit Kindle does allow zoom in on images in copyright protected pdf, where as Kobo so far does not. I'm hoping this new product will break this pattern. this is important if you view these kinds of documents and have poor eye vision.
Can’t wait to receive mine ! Ps still and always will love my remarkable 2 - different thing entirely.
whats your feedback on both of them?
@@streetbeaglekz1923 Elipsa is a good device but I’m not writing with it as much as I expected. It isn’t as good at writing as the remarkable which for me really is like paper. But it’s nice to have for longer ebook annotations.
It's a great review! I've been considering the elipsa for some weeks now, especially for university readings, and those are making up my mind! Let's see the other two. On the pdf side of things, do you think they didn't give the same features as an epub because there's some pdf's with non-recognizable characters? So instead of making it so that the tablet can make a difference between those two kinds of pdf's, they just made it for the pdf's with non-recognizable characters? I don't know if my question is clear, do tell me if not :)
Excelente explicação, obrigado 👍🙂
Hi, will you kindly do the best 5 enote (pros and con) taking device for 2021?
Thanks for the review. Do you recommend Supernote A5X or Kobo Elipsa for reading and annotations? Thanks
I have a Kobo Libra H20. I wanna upgrade to either Forma or Elipsa. Is it a bad thing on Elipsa that you dont have the confortlight pro and no side buttons to turn pages? Or do you get used to it? I will not use the notes,i just like bigger screens
Wonderful review, I have a question. Can you change the tip with a regular Wacom felt soft tip? Just to avoid that clicking noise.
Also, rock on, fellow synth guy!
Thank you :) If you check the Pen chapter in the part 1, you'll see that unfortunately that's not possible, they Are using a different standard, but I'll test it out to see if it's possible to make it fit somehow.
And yes, synthesizers are wonderful! :)
Thank you for your great effort! I want to ask you about the auto crop for pdf files, does the kobo have a auto crop as boox & pocketbook devices have?
Thanks so much Vojislav. As an e-reader I love the basic 2022 Kindle you esteemed so highly, which is excellent for everything *except* reading long lines (that's almost all Poetry) and reading text-based PDFs, the ones I can't convert to e-book formats. So I am looking at 10" e-ink readers. I have eliminated the Kindle Scribe - can't view PDFs - and thought the Elipsa might be the answer with the added bonus of handling Overdrive for borrowing library books. But can you confirm there is no way to re-flow a PDF on the Elipsa. Is the only way, perhaps, to instal KOReader which might compromise the Kobo firmware? Is the hugely more expensive Onyx Boox Note Pro, which does re-flow, the answer?
Hello. Thank you for the review. I read that you can only made notes on ebooks purchased through their app. Does it allow for making notes on all PDFs? For example if I download something on computer and transfer it, would I be able to make notes on it?
Hi, have same question here... Did you get the answer since then please?
Can you have the thick edge on the right as the grip is better for a right hander?
Just found out my Microsoft Surface book pen works on the Elipsa! And it works beautifully, too :) Very smooth writing experience, and on the surface pen you can change the nibs to a variety of hardnesses, so user-adjustable. Thought you may like to try it out. Apparently (according to the Kobo reddit), active pens that support "Microsoft Pen Protocol" (not Wacom) should work.
Wow, that’s good to know as I am thinking of buying an Elipsa. 👍🏼
Interesting. I tried my Surface Pro X pen and it didn’t work.
On my elipsa, the pocket integration has no issues... Might be fixed in newer firmware
Thank you very much for the review. One question: You're talking about DRM-epubs. But what happens to the markups and scribbles in non-drm-epubs? Is it possible to store the book including markups etc on the computer as an epubfile?
As of now, notes in epubs are in no way exportable.
I am waiting eagerly for Amazon to release a note taking eInk tablet
Fantastic review!! I have some questions:
How long is the battery life? I use it to study and i write for a long time. It arrived a free data ago and i already had to recharge it. Maybe because it was the first charge cycle? I don't want my device to be faulty.
Thanks :)
You received no answer 😭
I'm not a big fan of Kobo OS, and I am happy with my Poke3. But damn, that screen looks so sexy. The color depth (grey depth ?) and contrast is amazing.
Does it communicate with the pen via bluetooth?
Epubs are good on kobo, but kobo sells a lot of books using Adobe copyright protection in pdf format, and this makes zooming in on tables or images impossible. This is major problem for textbooks, popular science publications, etc.
Another problem you noted, exporting your annotations, there is a work around in the UNIX OS if the annotation is text on Kobo readers where you can export your annotations as a separate file, but unfortunately it is still difficult to re-associate the exported annotations with the book if you move it to another reader, other than to read the location mark and manual place them. This is an old problem which hackers have posted the fix onto youtube videos for anyone who has access to Windows PC or UNIX/MAC can follow.
Is this stuff fixed on the 2e?
Has the color banding been fixed with updates on the Boox devices?
I'm referring to: 12:08
Yes, they have added a dithering option that can be turned on or off in NeoReader, which complete eliminates the color banding issue.
I get that obnoxious clicking sound from the triangle pen I got with my Nova3. Ended up just getting the Staedtler thanks to your recommendation. I’m hoping the Elipsa has a second generation, although that may not be for a while, which uses wacom emr.
you can use the Elipsa with any Microsoft Pen Protocol (MPP) pen, like the surface pen and the Dell Premium Active Pen (PN579X)
@@salmiakki5638 I saw that on a different channel recently! That’s really useful to know actually and glad they used a more flexible system (just wish they advertised it initially or let reviewers know as part of their PR package)
@@yubbadubbadubba yeah. I saw the info in an Italian review of the product and I know it's useful info for people to know. It's sad that reviews are out without a little research put into them
How do you update the firmware?
Just to make sure: Does your My Daily Organizer work with the Elipsa (as I assume, since it has the hyperlink functionaility)?
I mentioned in the conclusion that I didn't have time to thoroughly test it yet, since making of these videos took a lot of work and time. I will be testing that next, initial results show that it seems to be all working fine, but I'd like to do a more thorough testing before I give a final verdict. So far, it's looking promising and good :)
@@MyDeepGuide oh I missed that, sorry. Thank you, I'm looking forward to it!
Fantastic review. Can you recommend any e-readers that maintain Zoomed-in positioning for PDFs across pages?
Boox devices use Near Reader as their reader app, and that is still, for me, the most powerful reader app, partly because it's formatting capabilities are the best, so yeah, that's the first one that comes to mind.
@@MyDeepGuide Appreciate the reply! Will definitely look into the Boox devices.
I am unclear how PDF gets onto the Kobo Elipsa? Is it only dropbox? Is there physical file transfer option from PC? Is there e-mail option/web surfing, or is the wifi there just for dropbox connection and downloading books?
Dropbox is completely into the device and I have explained how it works. You setup your Dropbox account on Kobo and after that, anything you place in the Apps/Kobo folder on your Dropbox will automatically become available in the device for you to download to it, by simply going to Settings/My Dropbox on the Kobo device.
So you don't need a web browser to access Dropbox on the device, since the integration is done so well.
If you don't want to use Dropbox, you can always hook it up to the computer with the USB cable, and then just drag and drop files onto the device like you would onto a USB drive.
No, there isn't an email client available.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks for that. I like the Drag and Drop as that allows me confidentiality of not putting it to dropbox, I do not trust the cloud for privacy.
Best Screen? At 12:11 a lot of details are missing that show up on the Note Air. And about the gray levels: the Note Air can do A2 and the levels are no longer visible. And what the Kobo can do with pdf, the Likebook P6 can also do for USD 120
You are mistaking ramped up contrast and sharpness processing for details. As for the A2 comment, I have addressed that in the Reinkstone R1 video, but what about the ghosting at the A2 level? I am talking about continuous real world usability, not just a singular example. And FYI, Note Air is my main daily driver device since November last year, I love it and use it daily for hours, and that's why the difference was very obvious and striking to me, since I look at that screen for 8 months, for at least a couple of hours every day, so I have a very good frame of reference. And yes, Kobo Elipsa picture quality and performance is better.
@@MyDeepGuide Look here: blog.the-ebook-reader.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Kobo-Elipsa-vs-Remarkable.jpg
The picture from the Kobo screen is a lot worse than that of the Remarkable 2.
The image you provided is far too low res and too compressed to judge anything other than contrast, and again, you seem to be mistaking ramped up contrast with image quality.
@@MyDeepGuide The author of the photo tested it and his statement is: Carta 1200 is a marketing gag.
I would advise you study Kobo dithering and take a closer look at the screen.
I know Kobos, they are quite suitable for reading text - I get a headache from the image display at 300 dpi (75 grid); i don't even like to imagine it at 227 (57 grid).
would you recommend this or the max lumi?
They are two completely different products in completely different categories, so it's not really a comparison.
What do you think about 227 PPI. My Kobo Aura One has 300 PPI. Is this noticeable?
This is a subjective matter. To me personally, no. Yes, smaller displays with 300PPI are a bit crisper, and yes, if you are actively comparing them side by side and looking for the difference, you'll notice it. But for me personally, no, it's not something that is a big difference in a day to day use.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks for the quick response. Love how in depth your reviews are. Subscribing
Regarding scratching the screen protector, I don't know how the Kobo pen nib is, but I did scratch the screen of my new Mobiscribe by what looked like a damaged nib. I had to look at the nib with a magniying glass to confirm. I didn't realize this until several real scratches were made in the screen. I thought I would mention this so that people should still be careful, especially as the nibs start to wear down.
That is different, Origin doesn't have a screen protector applied and it's plastic surface can get damaged.
@@MyDeepGuide Is the Elipsa's screen protector you refer to one of those that can be removed and replaced when damaged? If so, where would you buy a replacement?
I would recommend being careful with the screen. It is not made of glass, at least on the surface, it has a rigid plastic layer on the top of the screen (which makes the screen rough), it's not easy to scratch while writing, but it can be deformed if too much pressure is applied. I foolishly tested it myself. Otherwise, is a good device, expecially for reading ebooks and PDFs, Accademic articles ecc. (writing experience is sufficient but nothing exceptional).
This is probably the same for all plastic devices? Don’t they all have a bit of flexibility to them or is it a specific problem with the Kobo in your view?
@@BanjoPixelSnack i think it's the same for all e-readers that have a plastic screen, like notebook air ecc. But it's not a problem, if you pay attention to not drop o use any sharp object on the surface of the device
Is it just me or pdf is a bit slow on this device?
has kobo been able to resolve the issue with not being able to save pen outputs?
To my knowledge, not yet, but are actively working on it.
Finally ☺️☺️☺️☺️😬😬😬😬😬
Aaargh unable to filter by type ? this thing would drive me crazy :) a design choice to dumb down the UI cause they think file types would be too confusing for the main user base :)
You could maybe have a Collection for each type? Would duplicate files across collections potentially but could sort of work as a substitute for filtering?
What's the best choise for a new user (beginner level)? Never used this kind of device, i wanna buy one soon. Is it Elipsa? A5X? Boox devices? Remarkable?
Depends on your use case. These devices are not really comparable, The elipsa firstly is an e-reader. The remarkable focuses primarily on notes
Voja has a video that compares RM2, Boox note air and the supernote. I found that very helpful in understanding the differences and clarifying in my mind what was important to me in a device. I actually think I’m going to go for the Elipsa as I am primarily a reader with taking notes sometimes but I don’t really need to make annotations on documents. Having said that, I think the Boox is the best all rounder - I used to have a max lumi which is the same OS as the note air. But I am not keen on glass screens and that’s what the note air has.
no amber light on the biggest model really doesn't make any sense. hard pass !
I think linking words together in pdf is very difficult - and different programs do it differently when the PDFs are created, so the user experience can be very bad. Maybe Kobo Just said no need?
Well, they may say no need, but customers who do need it (students, researchers etc) will then turn to the competitors products who understood that there most definitely is a need for that.
does not support word documents? The pen DOES sound annoying, with the clicking noise on every single stroke. My Nova 3 Color, by comparison, is pretty quiet on that front.
The inability to annotate PDF documents is not something I need, but it might come in handy in future, and it would definitely affect the many students or academics who might buy it secondhand from me or brand new, they really need that function.
To be more accurate, you CAN annotate PDFs but not up to the standard of annotating e pubs.
Definitely annoying enough to prevent me from purchasing. That click is not for me.
How is it possible to not review the frontlight in such a long form review?
Oh I don't know, maybe because at the time I was in 24h per day agony due to an injury I sustained, had less than 2 hours per day of sleep for weeks by that point and my focus was on covering the extensive notebook functionality of the device? The front light functionality was very briefly mentioned in specifications and in the conclusion, as a con, as it is not a dual color light, but other than that, yeah, it wasn't prioritized due to the above mentioned things. That's how it's possible.
Got em
Are you really surey that there is no digitizer/wacom layer (or from another company)? Having a battery is no evidence, as e.g. wacom AES technology is using batteries, too. Or xp-pen on large screens.
True, but their specifications sheet doesn't mention it, and usually it's always specifically noted and mentioned. However, I'll test out my Wacom pen and see and I'll reach out to Kobo and ask directly and then let you know :)
@@MyDeepGuide Hi, thank you :).
I don't know a single non-digitizer device (from wacom or Others) which you can use for note taking - normally it is too unprecise etc..
One last point: there is not only wacom with a battery supply in the pen (wacom AES), so there are xp-pen, huano, Microsoft, Apple and additionally the USI-protocoll.
What were you searching for again????
A specific document on my device where I could show the feature I wanted to show.
@@MyDeepGuide it was the subject that was more surprising!
@@TheMarkRich Ah, it's the user manual for my Nord Modular G2, a miraculous synthesizer :)
already feeling fit enough again? :o
Unfortunately no. These two days that it took to finalize these videos took a lot out of me. Nerve issues take weeks and months to recover from, unfortunately.
But I get it was important to get these out before the 24th when the sale of Elipsa starts.
@@MyDeepGuide No matter when it woould be released, I'd wait for your review. xD
But yes, take it slow this summer. :)
Will try to do so :)
Dude, your hair pisses me off... because I am bald.
Great review.