Lies People Tell About Water - Part 3: Structured/Hexagonal Water, Water Memory
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- We've covered water fluoridation and special waters, so let's move on to the properties of water! Did you know that the water in your body is special? It's called structured water, or hexagonal water. Or at least that's what some would have you believe so that they can sell you devices that will "structure" the water you drink and make it better for you. Also, did you know that water responds to emotions, and has memory, just like humans? No wait, that's another lie with zero substantiation. Man, people really lie a lot about water, don't they? Let's wrap up the trilogy and debunk some charlatans, shall we?
Masaru Emoto's hoax: www.adhikara.com/the-message-f...
Debunking Montagnier: sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-...
More on Montagnier: www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/...
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"Structured water is more energetic."
Wow, that is EXACTLY backwards. Structured water (i.e. ice) is structured because the molecules don't have enough energy to break out of those structures. That's why adding energy (i.e. heat) to it causes it to melt into liquid water. This is basic, basic chemistry.
Pretty much anyone who knows how melting and boiling points work on a basic level would see how dumb this is
Hot liquid ice
Magic is what they’re selling
People don’t understand thermodynamics and by extension physics so we shouldn’t be surprised. They read a layman article and think they are an expert. Dunning Krueger if I’ve ever seen
@@handhdhd6522 It’s…Dunning.
@@tonyhakston536 it’s…autocorrect. I’m literally one letter off and d and r are right next to each other on the keyboard. You don’t need to correct me like I’ve never seen it before.
There is a situation in which the water in your body will achieve that stable hexagonal structure. I haven't had it happen to me but I'm told it hurts quite a bit, and the rehabilitation can take months. Sometimes the resulting damage to nervous and muscular tissue results in permanent disability. Frostbite. I mean frostbite.
:D
I haven't seen this coming until the end of reading that awersome comment.
The trick is to get ice powers first so you become immune to the side effects of frostbite.
@@mwperk02 the first is to freeze yourself
Oh, and here I thought extrusion through a hexagonal manifold... oh well.
Structured water has completely changed my life. Previously, when I was blind, I’d drink from bottles with laughably small “structures,” and was frequently dehydrated. While I’m not up to the hexagonal challenge yet, I did move from cylindrical bottles to more of a rounded square shape, which holds a lot more water. Less dehydration! Patiently waiting for the “industry” to stop keeping us down and roll out the tetrahedronal bottles.
Immortality practically a given at that point.
😆
Lol ur an idiot hahaha.
could you imagine giving these people a chemistry set. We would have new elements within days
Victor Ninov level elements
I found element 119! It has *pulls out random number generator* 212 Protons and 433 Neutrons!
@@sarthaksharma9129 lmao
@@sarthaksharma9129 9/10 chance the number of protons and electrons would be different lmao
@@sarthaksharma9129 that would be element 212
I'm thinking of setting up a business to sell "Concentrated Water". This is made by a special process of heating ordinary water and removing the excess and unwanted steam to create a much concentrated and powerful form of water, which I call Concentrated Water (not to be confused with consecrated water).
This new concentrated form of water is 20x smaller, 20x lighter to carry but also 20x more refreshing, and yet it only costs 10x more!
Finally, a reputable concentrated water seller, I found out my previous supplier was diluting the water I was selling with un concentrated water!
So you should consider buying my consecrated concentrated water. 20x smaller, 20x lighter, etc but with added god!
I’ll look into it, while traveling the TSA confiscated my consecrated concentrated water
Sounds great! I’ll buy 20x the normal amount! 😆
Sadly I have you beat. I am in the process of selling dehydrated water. It's better than your product as it is way smaller (nothing there) and weighs nothing. All you have to do is add water...
The people who made Hexagonal water took “hexagons are the bestagons” too literally
Oh man this deserves to be at the top
Dodecahedrons are awesomerer
They watched CGPGray and went wild
Hexagon is strongagon
I swear, that "hexagons are the bestagons" has become a literal meme already. A meme in the sense that it's information that's spread.
I have to admit that I bought into structured water when I was younger. I used to pay a couple of bucks per glass. However it really only gave me hangovers and make me dance like an idiot and say stupid things after consuming larger amounts. The whisky that held the structured water in suspension did not create vortices of positively charged hexagons of magic however during the third or fourth glass during my younger years did start to morph people around me into much better looking people whom I loved so very much, no really, i really loved them all, seriously! 😁
Had me in the first half lmao
Lmao
You are more correct than you realize (the debunker dude is really quite wrong, laughably wrong). Hard liquor and good wine are structured liquids. So is milk, Jello and pudding.
If vortexing makes structured water, can’t I just stir tap water with a spoon to structure it?
Dash cunning of you sir
@@JBG1968 Why thank you.
I actually have a structured water production device in the fridge, my sister calls it an ice tray but I know what it is, I know... the power.
By the power of Frigidaire, I HAAAAAAVE THE POWERRRRRRR!
Ah, but do you vortex the water in your bathroom like I do?
Power!
Is it possible to learn this power?
@@ejflor1313 not from a scientist.
Structured water really is magic. It's ice, that's liquid, but also hot.
@@ari3903 It is possible. This depends on pressure level surrounding ice - the higher pressure the higher temperature cap for water to start liquidising. That's why we can spot hot ice on certain planets - they weight more than Earth therefore gravitational force is stronger there and it presses on water harder than here
Honestly, the entire "water has memory" thing seems to operate on the "Law of Contagion", which is literally a law of magic from fantasy books. It literally IS magic that they're talking about.
@@Nukestarmaster
Let’s do neuropsychological testing on the water to see how good it’s memory is.
@@necromancer803 what is interesting is that most substances do the opposite (increasing pressure at a constant temperature causing them to solidify then vaporize)
hot... ice! (rookie of the year)
Only drinking boiling water from now on cause it has the most energy 💯
I've been pouring boiling water on myself and you can really see how it pulls out the toxins in your skin when it gets red and skin starts shedding off, the amount of energy and life force is simply immaculate 🔥🔥🔥🔥
no no no,, thats the bad energy!!!! you dont want that! you have to say nice things to the water as it boils so that way it will be nice to you when you drink it 😂
I love science not only because it explains what I see, but because it allows me to ask bigger and bigger questions every time I seek answers. So much of my curiosity stems from what scientific knowledge I have. I can't imagine not having that base from which I wonder. I don't know why anyone would subscribe to a lie when real science is so much more magical, and so much more beautiful.
Self proclaimed experts: "Stagnant water full of death and decay".
Meanwhile stagnant water: *being full of bacteria, algae and other living organisms*
Well, do you want to drink those? 😉
@@joschafinger126 If I'm an amoeba then yay!
@Joscha Finger the raw water guys sure do
Do... do they not know that *plants are alive???*
Good point, @MrAlex While stagnant water may (probably) not taste good, and may not be good for us (at least not optimal), you are right that it is actually full of life. 😄😄
I really enjoy listening to debunkers debunk... but something about the way YOU do it, Professor Dave, not sure if it's your eloquent snarkiness, pandering sarcasm, fluent vocabulary, or unapologetic glibness, that makes your eviscerations so satisfying, but I LOVE IT! LOL
I couldn't have said it better myself. His style is just...*chef's kiss*
I bet I can guess your favorite dinosaur.
agreed
@@theyoten1613 I never had a favorite dinosaur, but if I had to choose one, I would go with Corvus brachyrhynchos.
Absolutely. "anyone who tells you otherwise is a science illiterate fraud. Speaking of frauds..." Just burns them to dust.
" As soon as you change the molecular structure of water it is no longer water"
was such a ridiculously simple debunk of ALL the snake oil sales out there that it
made me spit out a bit of my tap water coffee. Thanks for the good laugh.
There are people who still believe naturally made chemicals are better than their synthetic version...oh wait, even the word "chemicals" itself could give heart attack to some of those folks.
BTW would you like some structured water to energise your coffee?
@@OrdinaryEXP why would I want ice 1H on my coffee?
@@familiamarquez3219 I dunno, an iced latte sounds good to me right now.
@@Letsgoback2thefuture that's just H2O reacting to HO- (hydroxyl)
@@OrdinaryEXP I hate this weird mass paranoia for "chemicals". So many bro science diet and health channels recommend against certain foods just because they are enriched with chemicals, you know those darned vitamins. My mom fell into the muh chemicals trap years ago and I haven't heard the end of it.
"Stagnant water is filled with death and decay, and also life, like bugs. That's not a self contradictory statement at all."
That had me dying, I replayed that like 20 times.
The following statement is not contradictory.
This statement is false.
@@Surg-265 Oh, and how was it so false then lad?
@@Surg-265I'm gonna say true
If "structured water" is ice, wouldn't it actually have less energy? Fantastic take-down, Professor Dave.
Yes EXACTLY. In order for water molecules to arrange themselves in that hexagonal structure (ice), they have to slow down their random motion relative to each other, which then allows the hydrogen bonds to take over and form that open hexagonal lattice structure we know as good ole' ICE
But.. but.. the crystal energies!
@@skipfred If crystals are actually "life" as Spirit Science says, then I'd better pack up my pocket pitchfork in case I come across someone chewing ice again
"Structured water" really is in a higher energy state at room temperature, but that just means it is inherently unstable.
This is why ice spontaneously melts at room temperature, it is higher energy and therefore less stable than liquid water.
The extra energy contained in the structure is dissipated as heat, as Dave said.
@@aredclwon Ice has lower kinetic energy. You are conflating entropy with energy. As the ice melts, the atmosphere loses energy and the ice gains energy. The thing with the energy here is obviously the atmosphere itself, if the ice were floating out in space it would never melt. It's no coincidence that things like neutron stars, some of the most homogeneous things in the universe, are neatly arranged at the atomic level. It is true that things at high energy states want to fall to lower energy states, but to suggest that the thermal mass of an ice cube can will the atmosphere in any meaningful way is ridiculous
In my kitchen I have a machine that energizes water. It is called a kettle.
Doctor Strange, is that you!?
I have a different water energiser. A hob. But you need the special pan to hold and structure the water. Lol
Are you sure it "energizes" the water? It is not hexagonal. My machine , which I think it is bigger than yours, "hexagonalizes" water. Other people call it a freezer, but do not listen to them. lol ;)
I have a machine that recharges my body. It’s called sleeping.
@@snewp_e2139 and I have a machine that can make this sleeping thingy easier, it's called "bed"
Listening to this in the UK whilst drinking my structured water - structured in the shape of a mug of tea, that is. 👍🏻 Great job.
Professor Dave is the only CZcamsr that I will learn actual science from.
Edit: yall its sarcastic, there’s other youtubers that teach good science i watch
Try Action Lab for some interesting science videos with a more experimental vibe. Electroboom does something similar with electrical concepts. World Of Antiquity is a great source for interesting ancient history!
@@benmanuel3502 Action lab is gimmicky. There's no real scientific thought there. Dave here has entire playlists of introductory videos on many science subjects.
Nilered has shown me that you can get uranium on Ebay
@@Sophiebryson510 true knowledge
VSauce, The Action Lab, Smarter Every Day, Veritasium etc. (Learn as much as you can)
I've talked about the bullshit my stepdad believes on your videos before, but he and my mom were so incredibly taken by structured water. And he's got a little light-up circuit board with a resin disc with petals in it on top. 200 some odd dollars and apparently you can program the water with things like nutrients all the way to different medications. These people have to be stopped.
they are on their way to live star trek
My mom is the same but she believes everything Sadhguru says :(
Boomers lol
Honestly, all the pseudoscience stuff aside, if those coasters would actually produce mini vortices in my drinks, I would pay good money just for the fun gimmick. Even though it would regularly cause a mess with drinks already filled to the top of the glass
But on a more serious note: Yes, pseudoscientific scams that extort money from gullible people are truly some scummy shit
@@doomse150 It's not a "mini" vortex, but you could use a laboratory stirrer for that. Just remember to not drink the magnetic stirring bar at the bottom of your glass.
The fact that the guy "studying" the "emotions of water" is named "Dr" Emoto amuses me.
Honestly sounds like a Super-villain name.
@@Nukestarmaster I think the Condiment King from DC is a more serious threat than a Dr Emoto.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382 No, I think that Dr. Emoto sounds like he developed an emotion-manipulating ray gun, which is at least several threat levels above ketchup and mustard sprayers.
It’s really sad! The water that is. 😆
@@Nukestarmaster condiment king has busted out Mustard Gas on occasion
I never thought people actually believe this structured living magic water bullshit, but Dave really knows how to draw the moths to flame, as exemplified by this comment section. Keep debunking this silliness, Professor!
"Idiots laughing"... this made my day. As I am not a natural speaker I use the subtitles for better understanding... and there was this caption, wenn those two nice people were laughing... very funny easter egg! Love it Dave!
"Your body is one big liquid battery!"
Go home, Neo, you're drunk.
But, are we not? We are practically saline water, and capable of holding an electric charge.
@@mursuhillo242 Tiny
@@mursuhillo242 We're much closer to Gundams. Big ol' meat mechs with a phospho-metal oxide skeleton and waterproof self-repairing armour, plus powerful acid engines that use a wide swath of other biological materials for fuel. We use water to mediate our squishy meat mechanics, keep down the viscosity of our fancy goops, and help purge fluid exhaust products.
Woah
@@mursuhillo242 an mri scan tells us we are not very magnetic. if we were we would be thrown around like being in a wash machine. but yeah, Pi is right.
Let me get this straight
Structured water is frozen water
Frozen water being frozen has very little energy
But structured water is supposed to be energized
In conclusion hot ice
Hot ice can exist, but only at very high pressures, deep-in-gas giant pressures.
@@paulmahoney7619 There's a planet that has ice that is unmelting and on fire, but it's because of EXTREME gravity
@@SamuelTrademarked its also because its mostly frozen methane isnt it?
Hot ice that moves apparently, like a gelatin I guess. Ice jello basically.
Ice Ice baby
From what I recall, the publication in Nature on Water Memory did come with an editorial that warned readers not to draw any conclusions yet until the experiment could be replicated in a controlled environment (which of course no one ever succeeded at). At least that's what I remember.
This video series truly displays how important it is to be scientifically literate, whether or not it effects your profession. 99% of what these people say is either obvious bullshit or literally meaningless.
To be fair all you need is some basic common sense though
@@informationyes I mean not really. You can't apply common sense when you don't know understand the contents of a sentence.
@@fin3662 sentence?
@@informationyes Please elaborate on your confusion
@@fin3662 I dont know what "know understand" means or what u mena in reference to a sentence
My aunt tried to get me into the whole water memory thing, while also talking about a conspiracy theory concerning the spear of destiny. Fortunately she was terribly bad at explaining what she meant so I just ignored it, despite being in a vulnerable situation at the time
Spear of destiny? Isn’t that a Wolfenstein 3D expansion
And a warship in Warhammer 40 000, and a christian conspiracy theory.
Spear of destiny, what's that?
@@shadowlitten547 that depends on who you ask
@@jarreddean2094 can you tell me the general idea?
Thank you Professor Dave. I now know that I've been increasing my life force for years by eating structured water and can safely ignore all those quack doctors who said I had a terrible case of "chronic pagophagia."
What's chronic pagophagia?
@@themadwarden6603 Pagophagia is the compulsive chewing of ice. Chronic means that the condition is persistent. So it basically means an addiction to chewing ice.
I’m amazed there’s a word for that. Or a syndrome that needed a word.
That was truly one of the best videos I've seen recently. It was super entertaining. I definitely subscribed and will be watching you more often from now on.
Believe it or not your videos, among others, have helped me use my skepticism when confronted with nonsensical claims. Thank you so much! Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much. I'm so happy you address the lies that "Dr." Masaru Emoto tells. My parents have his book and have read it. And then told all of those lies to my entire family. This happened when I was still in kindergarten. So I was scared to say something that has a negative meaning and I didn't think they were wrong. Now I have something I need to show to my parents. I love these videos!
I feel your frustration here.
I will wait until my parents die, then I can live without these lies.
Could you imagine how catastrophic it would be if simply agitating water caused it to dissociate?
We are made of water. If we went for a run, we might just explode...
Well, if i get agitated enough i start dissociating…
*shakes water*
*forms hydrogen and oxygen*
*hydrogen explodes*
Bro where's my 4d water 💀
Thank you for all the information and knowledge you give out. So much better than a crazy expensive science class. You're the best 👌
I'm a retired fence builder and during the hot summer days I would add some nacl to my water. It worked wonders, much better than gatorade for relieving cramped muscles. And I know whereof of which I speak for I have a PHD.....I keep it in a little room inside my garage (Post Hole Digger).
It’s shown that all living being in contact of Dihydrogen monoxide had a 100 percent mortality rate. Research has shown it can lead to a choking affect worst case scenario suffocation.
I also have a PHD (A pretty huge Duck) many took pleasure with it.
Don’t get in contact with Dihydrogen Monoxide without proper training and information and under the supervision of a lifeguard.
Whoever consumes it have a 100% mortality rate with no cure.
Mildly salted water can restore your electrolytes which helps fight dehydration, especially when you sweat a lot and expel salts. Don't add more than a tsp to 1 liter though, and do not drink frequently.
drinking salt water in larger doses and frequently can be very bad for your health mate. high blood pressure, kidney problems so i wouldnt recommend it. Thats why we dont drink Sea water coz you know its toxic for humans...
@@rantrakkanto1029 Are you nuts? You can't compare bottled water with a little bit of table salt in it to sea water. That's like saying we can't have pet cats because lions or tigers will kill you.
@@rantrakkanto1029 This is off my head, but I don't believe that water with added table salt is gonna be nearly as harmful as ocean water. Ocean water can have a lot of much nastier stuff in it for the human body. Plus, if I recall correctly, the salt most prevalent in the ocean is not the same as table salt (the latter usually being iodized sodium chloride, which often unhelpfully simplify to just "salt")
Also, to clarify, ingesting a lot of table salt is not good for you either, but for different reasons to seawater.
"Today, modern science has recognized that water has memory."
Damn, I guess we have been drinking dinosaur piss and diarrhea water all these time.
Supercharged dinosaur piss and diarrhea water because it's so diluted it's ultra powerful.
@@thekoolaidmaker5103 lol
That video is literally about this guy at 21:48.
Maybe this man used to be a reputable scientist, but recently he is spewing out a bunch of utter nonsense.
Whenever someone says "water memory" I think of like:
Water- Bro! Remember that dude who pranked his friend by throwing me on his face??? It was awesome.
@@thekoolaidmaker5103 ha ha haaaaa are you for real that dumb? Dave literally tears this guy apart, and you just link some random video about him and say "this really looks like science"
@@EricLS He's being sarcastic lol
Another awesome series, much appreciated. These really underline the importance and value of all your educational videos. ❤
Thank you for posting this excellent series of videos debunking all those myths.
The (idiots laughing) in the subtitles was gold. You are the best my guy 😂
lol, that's something good to notice.
Where? :-o I am watching without subtitles, so... :-|
@@RudolfKlusal 7:00
To be fair, I don't really think they are the idiots. They are more like geniuses whom have found a way to make a living off of the idiots.
@@impero101 Think of it as like "When you say a lot of idiotic things, prepare to get called an idiot".
Thank heavens for channels like yours.
I am a physician who is completely fed up dealing with anti-vaxers and conspiracy theorists.
100 years ago our life expectancy was about 46 years, and child mortality today is 2-5% of what it was then.
None of that was achieved by internet researchers, but by real research, controlled double blind trials, publication, and peer review. Throw in a measure of respect for expertise.
I will happily buy copies of your book, they will make ideal christmas presents for certain friends and family.
leave a few of the books in the waiting room.
Total agreement, IMHO part of the problem is we have a real issue of many younger people these days having no concept of "relevance". Am constantly confronted by people who genuinely believe that out and out speculation, with no supporting evidence equates to the same level of predictive power as established science.
A little bit of epistemology in schools would probably help too, people need to understand "how do i know, what i think i know" is functional nudge towards critical thinking.
If I may, I can explain why this happens, and the answer is political, not scientific. People are ignorant of science for the most part, so are reliant on gatekeepers of knowledge for their enlightenment. In the old days, people used to read a science journalist, believe them, or hear what their doctor is telling them, and trust and believe in them too.
These days, that trust in expertise has been so abused by those in the role of gatekeeper that it has eroded completely. (I'm looking at journalism, here, not science or medicine!) People can tell now that the media is lying to them constantly. Not about everything, but about enough to erode the audience's trust. Expert talking heads are trotted out to lend weight to whatever that particular channel's agenda is, people who are nominally scientists or doctors, thus trust in those people is broken too by proxy. People can't tell what is true, and what is wrong, or false, so this creates a knowledge _and_ a trust vacuum.
The people watching don't know about controlled double-blind trials, peer review, or difference between a cohort study and a meta-analysis. To them science is an arcane practice by nerdy people using long words, who seem to be in cahoots with the other gatekeepers who are clearly misleading them on the regular. They don't know how to read a scientific paper, or know that if something is on a pre-print server it hasn't been peer-reviewed yet (these are often the only texts you can read in full for free).
Add to this climate of mistrust a pandemic of dubious origin that has sent the ruling class of the world mad with power, with ever more stringent limits on our freedoms in the name of "The Science" that keeps giving contradictory answers. Don't wear masks, they don't do anything, then six months later, you must wear a mask or YOU cannot do anything! Democrats saying they'd never take any vaccine made under Trump, then when they are in power, they try to mandate that same vaccine as a condition of employment. These contradictions are rarely explained, you are just expected to comply, and are lambasted as an anti-vaxxer or conspiracy theorist if you question what's going on.
People may be ignorant of the scientific method, and medicine, but they are not stupid. They can tell when they are being taken for a ride, but they do not have the privilege of a medical education like yourself, so of course they are going to turn to dodgy Facebook groups and stuff for their knowledge, because they don't know how to parse good information from bad the way you or I do. Now dodgy politicians are saying they _must_ be injected with something they don't understand - well, can you blame them for being reticent?
I think experts, such as yourself, forget what ignorance is like. These people probably don't know about the last 100 years of miraculous innovations in medicine and science, we have normalcy bias for the world we find ourselves in. I'm afraid it's your job to gently educate these people, but also to understand why they believe the things they do.
@@RoganGunn that’s right. Public trust has eroded in the institutions that are supposed to be trustworthy. A lot of that is due to politically motivated disinformation campaigns. Some of it, however, is due to the institutions themselves including medicine and academia. I mean, the opioid crisis is a huge example of how modern medicine failed the general public.
i feel like imma throw up by the pseudo science zone for more than an hour. i can't imagine how you feel after dealing with conspiracy theorists while having a genuine understanding of science
When you spell the water brand 'Evian' backwards, you get 'Naive', they know what they're doing and at times tell you ...
As somebody who has employed various mystical psychological exercises throughout my tenure as both a psychiatric patient as well as a lmhp, I must say that concepts such as Crystal healing, aromatherapy, tarot cards, and moon water are all just various placeboc devices that actually can be very beneficial in the individual seeking treatment as they reframe the inner dialogue, and often times can become appropriate coping and processing mechanisms - whereas before the patient had none.
Thank the FSMonster, you were not surgeon. The paraphernalia had nothing to do with the outcomes because your hopefully "good" intention and skill at manipulating desperate people to feel good paid off for them and you financially. It would be interesting to follow up on those who never returned because they sought proper care or died due to your charlatan behavior.
@@VaughanMcCue My brother in Cthulhu, I understand the sentiment, but you did not understand the original post.
OP is not suggesting that mysticism be used in any way as a substitute for physiological medicine. They're describing the use of narrative framing devices in psychotherapy, which are perfectly fine and not under the purview of "alternative medicine" quackery, so long as it's made clear that they aren't alternatives to treatment for medical conditions.
What do you think psychotherapy is? It is, quite literally, teaching people to think themselves into healthier mental states without neurochemical intervention, or in conjunction with said intervention through the prescriptions of a psychiatrist. They're actually, quite literally complementary in that they complement genuine medicine rather than supplanting it. Even cognitive behavioral therapy is only different in its approach, but mechanically similar.
As a therapist your job is literally to help people feel better by building up healthy coping mechanisms in place of unhealthy ones, and if carrying around a chunk of quartz or using carefully controlled and safe amounts of aromatherapy oils in an infuser is a step toward the patient going to bed without PTSD nightmares, it's an acceptable method. As long as you're also responsibly teaching the patient not to spend all their money with people who insist those methods will cure cancer and give them superpowers. Would you call it exploitative or dishonest for a child to be permitted to carry a security blanket or a favorite teddy bear, or to have a night-light?
@@FelisImpurrator
I might get inspired to read your essay. At present, it looks like a rant of a boring lecture. Maybe, I will respond another day.
@@VaughanMcCue Translation: You're not actually as literate or scientifically minded as you want to sound. I simply explained sound psychology, not magic bullshit. But please stop pretending to be pro-science if you're this anti-reading.
@@FelisImpurrator
After that outburst, I feel less like reading your tripe. BTW, the correct translation....Maybe later - it isn't that difficult.
As a chemical engineer, I would be VERY interested in being able to separate H2 and O2 just by spinning because that would make the current hydrolysis process useless 🤣🤣🤣
I think I gave myself a concussion with the facepalm 🤣🤣🤣
“Let’s spin water for life support!”
“We’re running out of air, spin the water!”
Well, if you spin the water fast enough, it _will_ get hot enough that the water splits. Although I think you're better off just using electrolysis.
hamster driven hydrogen production.
I know right? BAM! Fossil fuel dependence solved. No need for battery EVs. World saved!
@@Nukestarmaster need to get those water molecules up around 2000° to thermally decompose it into its constituent atoms.
I love how you target the scammers rather than the people falling for the scam.
Thank you for the analysis of the topic. It was funny at some moments;) I've heard most of these theories of water many years before. And every time I was trying to go deeper, the expensive product was the dead end of a theory, therefore I assumed it wasn't even worth to analyze it anymore. I'm also using tap water through a Brita for many years and I'm pretty satisfied with that. It is cheap and I don't have any scale on the bottom of my kettle.
Thank you Dave! I’ve realized how bad structured water is, and I’ve improved on it. It’s called HONaCl! This product takes carefully harvested NaCl molecules from only the flattest salt flats and merges it with pure vibrational spring water to create healthy water with high energy! The salt in it helps your body absorb and break down the water molecules while also giving good vibrations off to neighboring proteins!
I don’t know. When I add structured water to a brewed concoction of non structured dihydrogen monoxide, camellias sinensis and crystallized extract of saccharum officinarum, it tends to magically make me feel more comfortable on hot days and seems to reduce my body’s need for hydration.
True, but be careful, as sometimes when large quantities of structured water form inside your arterial bloodstream they cut blood flow to extremities and cause cells in said limbs to either without their nutrients from the now-structured blood cells
"Humans are like batteries" is what you'd tell a gullible younger sibling to get them to put a fork in an outlet
Humans are like batteries in that setting either on fire is a bad idea
That made me laugh out loud 🤣
That phrase is basically "The Matrix", with only "like" added.
I heard a rap that said "Water remembers the flowers you put in it but somehow it forgets about all the poop it's had in it."
Your segments are of the most valuable educational public service resources available. Run for office, please, or better yet organize your following, I would certainly help.
My favorite part was when Dave said that spinning water in a vortex is not going to do the same thing as electrolysis and split the hydrogen from the oxygen. That made me laugh because boat propellers would be making flammable hydrogen in the water all over the place lol. There response of course would be “no you don’t get it, there has to be a SPECIAL vortex for it to work.” To borrow a catch phrase from Doctor Evil - Riiiiigghht…
Pseudo scientists: “Dave just uses big complex words to trick people into believing him!”
Also pseudo scientists: Uses big complex words to make people buy their hundred dollar products that does absolutely nothing
like , dave dont even sell product so why would he lie , it doesnt make him richer or something
Dave explains this stuff using simpler words than I will use to explain things
@Sea Star are you being serious
It’s called projecting or in simpler words “I’m lying out of my ass therefor you must be too”
@@livingcrematedcorpseforyou4039 yes he is. He genuinely doesn’t understand the difference between real and fake sources which leads him to call people like Dave a fake. Because the reality that Dave explains doesn’t conform to what this guy wants to be real
Great video series. Binging them all in order now.
What's great is that I received a commercial for Liquid I.V. on this 3rd video in the series 😆
Watching your videos changes my advertisement algorithms to the very products you debunk and it's hilarious.
I have gotten extremely tired of all of the special water claims, they are utter nonsense. Great to see you applying the gentle sledgehammer of reason to this house of cards.
Well done Sir.
TBS
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But the people who need to know this never watch this channel - He would be preaching to the converted.
Gentle sledgehammer is just a great phrase
I would be so stoked if you did a debunk of sadhguru I can't even. I stumbled upon him on youtube because I watch a lot of yoga here. Watched a couple of his videos. In the beggining I thought he made some sense... Not for long tho. I actually hope for more scientific studies on benefits of yoga that would isolate what parts of it are actually beneficial (medicaly an psychologicaly) and not gibberish. Hope I can do some one day as I study psychology. (sorry for bad spelling, my first language is Polish)
@Mojowuq9 yes. This.
Your english is quite good. Didn't even know it was not your first language until you said something.
I know that guy. Damn I even used to think he made sense till he said bunch of shit that was clearly stupid lol.
As an indian, I would suggest you please whenever you listen to these gurus and baba and yogis... Be skeptical about every word they utter. Fact check it, especially the science claims.
You did good with your grammar mostly :)
Especially since English is such a weird language, even to a native English speaker like me
@@rimjhimchakraborty9365 Nice to see a Indian giving critique to sadhguru the guy is making millions books subscribers you name it and alot of people just buy it and don't debunk it i smell some peusdo stuff also from Wim Hoff the Iceman I see a new trend comming now from the new age infinite consciousness they say we are infinite consciousness and they say things like opening your chakras my god this sounds so nonsense
Excellent! Love it! Reminds me of the old Simon and Garfunkel Song "The boxer" "...a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest..."
Great video Dave!!! I've watch many of your biology videos as I've moved from a previous chemistry career into Medicine, but hadn't seen any of the others... this one is really brilliant!!! Thank you for debunking pseudo-science in a clear and entertaining way!
"structured water is energized water" translation: "ice is hot"
I haven't watched this episode yet, but does the "water memory" segment include a debunking of homeopathy? If not, will you be doing an episode in this "Lies People Tell About Water" series on that topic?
EDIT: Having finished watching it, I can verify that Dave uses the clause "...and some claim that it serves as the basis for homeopathic remedies" during the "water memory" portion of this episode, but that's his only reference to homeopathy in this episode. I would've preferred a more direct and less fleeting negation of that particular branch of quackery, but I appreciate what Dave's given us here.
I think Tim Minchin covered it pretty well. If water has memory, then it also remembers piss and shit.
me too!
The only people at the Israeli lab where they tried to reproduce the experience (and failed, it only worked when Benveniste assistant was doing it herself) were homeopathic doctors. Others withdrew.
And it's ironic, because it's the opposite of homeopathic principle, where you use a substance causing headache and dilute it to remove headache. In the Benveniste and later Montagnier version you recreate the original substance, or at least their original effect, with the water memory. So if it was true homeopathy would make symptoms even worse...
I was just sticking to the properties of water rather than delving into medicine, I hit homeopathy pretty hard in my book. Perhaps it'll make another appearance at some point.
anyone who believes in homeopathy must know that they are basically drinking urine
I remember a book about tea I owned as teenager (who wanted to stick out as .... special). It contained a lot of info what kind of water was best to use for your tea, though no physical, chemical or medical reason were given.
In a way I can buy the idea that the "best" for tea water is from collecting morning dew from the Northern slopes of Mt Fuji, because ... TRADITION and CEREMONIAL tea drinking.
(And knowing it's just water, with some energy particles from Fukushima)
Thank you for being in the world Dave! you are amazing!!! ❤️
yay water memory :) I met a guy who believed it and considered himself scientific minded, but also wasn't following the science at all (think scientific papers = sketchy documentary to him). And "if I'm wrong I'll be glad to be told" but don't believe any evidence given to him. You can't win and that's because people are entitled to believe whatever they want (and be criticized for it!)
Ultimately, that’s alright, because the worst thing these people do is get ripped off by strangers.
Ah, the 'if I'm wrong I'll be glad to be told' / change my mind / etc... These seem worse than the mere gullible. They claim to be so 'open-minded' and all that, but when given any evidence or reasoning that disputes their position, "Well I'm not so sure, that's just what 'they' want you to believe." They're only 'open-minded' so long as your data agrees with their pre-concieved ideas.
Wait, reading multiple peer reviewed research papers on a specific subject (which only actually helps if you understand all the words only really ever used in academic settings) isn't the same a watching a layperson explain their theories on a blurry webcam on CZcams?
@@mikedrop4421 of course not and it will never be so but for these guys it’s enough and then Dunning Kruger kicks in. Some people like over simplified explanations for really really difficult fields of science and then have the hybris to talk about it.
I respect anyone that can debunk crap like this calmly and without cursing. I would be 3 minutes into the video like "LISTEN TO THIS STUPID MOTHERFU..."
Don't blame you, it's so angersome..
well you also have to consider that a lot of (dumb) people share these false claims because they believe its true and could help
See I don’t see any issue in swearing… like words aren’t bad… it’s how they’re used that make them that way. But with that said… shouting what you stated may not be the most appropriate 😂 hilarious though
Same, I'd have lost my shit after 20 seconds from sheer _"YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BE THIS STUPID!!!!"_
This is why dark alleys were invented ....
11:10 didnt know that the properties of a molecule were also due to the geometry of it. now i know, thank you
Geometry matters a lot. For example, glucose vs fructose. Same exact chemical composition, but geometry is different and thus they behave differently.
Thank you for these. The truly immoral and criminal aspect of these snake oil salesmen is that probably most of the people who fall for these things are the chronically ill or ill with a condition that can't easily be explained/treated/cured. Or that have been ridiculed and abused by MDs with horrible bedside manners, who should never be allowed to see actual patients (TBF, a minority, and at the time, they were just trying to be skeptical, because there was no literature on what I had, but jerks will go too far). It's true that going for a 1hr alt health treatment likely involves much more care, nice lighting, relaxing music, and great massage (part of the marketing they use) than a 5-15min visit to a dr. And the alt practitioners believe you, whatever you say. Of course. I know, I was once, even though reasonably educated with scientific parents, and already into debunks and such, involved in all manner of health nonsense in the 70s and 80s, due to contracting a strange illness (and had been a card carrying member of the counterculture, which evolved into New Age in the 70s, dragging all things in the hippie utopia with it, including water).
My illness took my youth and dreams and I was desperate for answers or a cure, to get my life back. So I got into a network of friends with frustrating health problems (rheumatoid arthritis, MS, etc, etc). I was just ripe for picking. And was. The final cure for all this nonsense was a) trying it ALL, with no good result, and b) going back to college and relearning the *scientific method", taking a critical thinking class, and theoretical engineering in which everything was a proof. These things, plus *still* having the health problem, in spite of thousands of $$$$$ spent and guarantees made, cured me of spending money for nothing. Turns out, all these decades later, my illness was caused by, of all things, wait, are you ready... a virus! Still no cure or other than supportive treatment (and snake oil still making a killing), but it's nice to know, anyway. This group of people I was in, would now, of course, gravitate to covid conspiracies/misinformation, as most were already convinced their diseases were caused by the bad govvy or medical establishment, than by an actual physical processes. I am mystified, though, why healthy people would gravitate toward this stuff. Like, what's the motivation?
"Water is a dimension" - Sadhguru
Lol that's so funny.
More like “sad guru.”
@@Dalonghair exactly.
A yes, the five dimensions. Height, width, depth, time and water. I swear, I am more creative with my own fictional scribbles than this. At least I put down the fifth dimension as spirit and the sixth as eternity. I mean... water? A dimension? How?
@@Duchess_Van_Hoof my 5the dimensions name is Paul. He says hi.
I'd been thinking this whole time "I wonder if I'm also falling for something; like, is Brita also a scam?" so you ending the video by clarifying that filters are a-ok was weirdly comforting, haha
That really shouldn't be enough to settle this issue.
If it's something you're concerned about, look up what Brita claims their filters do, and check if there's need for that. The main question should be: What is there in your tap water that you might want to get rid of?
Taste mostly
Filters do what you'd think they do, they filter out all the small particulates in the water, not all of it, some things are too small to be filtered. Other filter sometimes put in minerals after the filtration process. But generally speaking filtering water is unnecessary depending on where you live, English NA and western Europe have perfectly fine to drink tap water.
Dave, you remind me of a great Australian scientist called Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki, who brought science into a fun place for us all, has written many books explaining science to the layperson in interesting and exciting ways, and even had a regular show on youth radio station Triple J for several years. Keep doing what you're doing as it's guys like you who'll move us forward, however slow and shameful the charlatans make it along the way. 🌈🥰
Could you do a video on GMOs and GEOs, or the organic food craze? A lot of companies charge extra by marketing products as "organic" or "non-GMO," and I think doing a debunk on the benefits of GMOs and other such products would be enlightening for a lot of people
"Brawndo. . . . It's got electrolytes" About the same in the way they pitch their product. Using big science words repeatedly, while misconstruing the science itself to sell their product, idiocracy at its best.
I feel as each day passes we get closer to idiocracy
It's got what plants crave, it's got electrolytes.
Brawndo! It’s got what plants crave! It’s got electrolytes!
Gatorade has electrolytes too… and I bet it tastes better 😂
Are the dislikes on these videos from people who sell magic water or people who buy magic water?
just general haters that are disgruntled from other debunks
I wondered the same thing how can you dislike professor Dave
It's not a good, hard debunking if it doesn't get plenty of dislikes.
@@TheReaverOfDarkness Plenty of dislikes equals 71, apparently
@@Jayshiver We need to share this with the hexagonal water community and "boost its ratings"!
What are my favorite forms of water is the turnip to Bourbon as some sugar some mint leaves, maybe some solid water "structures" on top, stitred together.
Here in Europe we had an "water vitaliser" which costs a few thousands of Euros.
It was recently outlawed, since it worked with radio frequency (around 20W at 144.15 MHz) and caused a lot of interference. Ham radio operators DO NOT like this, and tracked them down and reported them to the regulating agency, which then stopped the import, sale and use of it. Whoever is turning it on now, is risking a hefty fine (at least the second time you do it, the first time they usually only inform you about the problem .. but if you give them crap about it, it's totally possible for them to fine you right away).
The fun thing is, people who use this stuff are the same crowd which are scared of mobil base towers, especially 5G. This thing did produce quite significant RF fields whenever it was running ..
I've been fans of Jeff Holiday and Myles Power for years, but I never found your content until CZcams autorecommended your flat earth debunk, and your Kent Hovind retorts...and my god, I'm in love. Keep doing what you do, professor!
Professor Dave, you have opened my eyes and changed my life. It is silly to think that water which flows in a straight line or water which flows through bends has been degraded. So, from now on, I will only drink water which has flowed through a spiral!
Twirly straws for everyone!
Lmao what
Get one of the cool straws and you can drink from anywhere
The only thing that can degrade by water flowing through a pipe is the metalcasing of the rusting pipe itself.
@@hoppingthefence2036 (that’s the *joke* )
I love how you ask the question "why do people want to believe this stuff? What ouch does it scratch?" As well as pointing out humans anthropomorphisize everything. I'm actually interested in the answers!
My gf is very into metaphysics and I've explained to her that a lot of these sales pitches rely on the limits of language. Like "energy" it means something specific in science, but it has wide usage outside that in common language (adhd kids have a lot of energy etc) and I think "memory" is an example of this. Like say denting metal with a hammer and equating the dent to "memory" if we can get them to clarify what them mean and nail it down in a lab (like the hydrogen bonds or whatever they said about water structure) then it seems it might aid education
Hey really nice video. The only part I thought wasn't great was the Gerald Pollack part because in that TED talk he was speaking with laymen and your debunk was mostly on semantics. It would be awesome if you could make a video reviewing one of his papers and explain why the results or interpretation of the results are invalid.
"Smart water" is the world's most efficient IQ test.
Not really. It just tests basic chemistry knowledge. Someone who is ignorant of the subject could easily be swayed by this kind of bullshit.
Currently, the most efficient IQ test is to observe how people behave during a pandemic.
@@maythesciencebewithyou the ought does not imply the is, and vice versa. Risk assessment is not a zero sum game, even though it has the right to be. Well, that's not quite either. Rather, the assumption that minimal risk is inherently "better," is a value judgement. There is no science to assess the value of a value. All science can tell is what will happen....science cannot tell us if we should give a shit.
Also, chemistry should the cornerstone of science education. It's the central science, but we don't treat it as such.
@@maythesciencebewithyou
I'm an odd in chemistry.. but I perfectly understand why water memory is a bullshit !
The end of the video was really touching for me, as over the past few years I've watched my entire family go off the deep end into crackpot conspiracies, alt health, etc.
This has been exacerbated by the pandemic and is far more prevalent than most people realize. Sometimes I genuinely worry that we are approaching another dark age.
I’m familiar with the situation that you are describing.
I've always wondered: what would it take for you to be considered an expert in an academic field, as opposed to someone who just knows the basics? A PhD? A paper publication? Authoring an academic textbook?
A doctorate and a few publications.
An oath to the status quo
@@tombolo4120 what has a heavy meal band got to do with it?
@@tombolo4120 Bait
@@dogwalker666 they were more 'hard rock' than heavy metal...
It's really interesting how water molecules travelling through 300ft of straight pipe somehow become less "structured" and "organized" than if it had been been tumbling randomly through creeks, dirt, silt, bug shit and pond scum. Strange how that works. I wonder if these guys also think that the way you're supposed to build a Lego set is by throwing the box against the wall until it puts itself together.
Do you think nature is random ?
Do you think nature is random ?
@@ryandlion6961 it is
@@ctl9139 you think this is all random? Really you don't realize that it's all designed perfectly.
@@ryandlion6961 random implies it wasn’t tailored by humans, so yea. I don’t mean nothing tailor made it, but we didn’t is all.
I love that you can do very formal lectures and very blunt debunkings like this both so eloquently. Great job to both you and your script writers!
Oh I write these ones myself, too much fun to share!
You are doing a great service to the world Professor Dave!
Misinformation and Cults always start small, and must be stopped at their roots.
In a research project some years ago we build an automated PCR detection device for water (focus were human pathogen viruses). Some people called and asked if it could detect energized water as well.
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been seeing a lot of advertising about structured water and wondered what the heck they were trying to say.
Steam? Ice? Or what?
I do “believe” in certain things, like faith healing, and holy water. One time a long time ago I gathered some water near Ephesus at what is said to be the last place where Mother Mary lived… and when I add a little of that water to the rest of the water in my glass, well , it all becomes holy water.
At least, in my mind.
But I’m an exercise physiologist and there’s no way I can turn off that other part of my brain when it comes to people who are selling these things and trying to explain science .
Water is an interesting topic. We collect rainwater and don’t have a well because a well would cost $40k more than our rainwater harvesting system. We filter the water and then treat it with a uv light to kill anything that might be growing in it.
All the water the earth will ever have is already here… so I think it’s important for us all to support a real understanding of water, even for those of us who are not molecular scientists.
"How could water molecules have memory? Doesn't memory require a brain?"
Well, if you take it literally, yes. But the word "memory" can be used for compounds that return to their previous shape after being modified as if they had a "memory".
They are called "shape-memory alloys", also known as "memory metal".
That being said, water doesn't have that property in any conceivable way.
Water has a memory! That's why my water bed has an indentation in it shaped like me!
@@TheReaverOfDarkness
Thats the fabric. Its very smart
Every sip of water you take has an H2O molecule in it from the sweat off your parents back from when you were conceived... 🤢
Probably a good thing water doesn't have a memory then! 🤔
(This is real, and is an example of a Fermi Estimation taught by Prof. Lawrence Krauss in a lecture in London a few years ago. You can work it out yourself using Avogadro's number, the mass of a mole of water, a drop of sweat/sip and the mass of all water on Earth!)
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 I love that!
@@RoganGunn wtf!?
"Even the lie they are referring to is just Hot water"
Holy fk 😂
@Daniel Marinho Energized dihydrogen monoxide dihydrogen monoxide*
So water remembers that time I had the explosive diarrhea? Sorry water.
And you even sweared in its presence You monster ! Water-chan is all ugly now !
It also remembers being Dinosaur pee.
Finally bought your book Dave. I'm tired of explaining things to people so I'm going to keep this handy.
I love the title of your book, I'm a systems engineer and I've actually used that term and; "This model recycles the wi-fi waves improving your connection" when a customer started getting overbearing about the equipment I was installing at his request.
I'm surprised that you didn't talk about the CZcams channel "spirit science" and what he said about water. Please watch the whole episode. Also I think you would have fun debunking all of there videos.
@@AD-wg8ik what?
I think he talked about this channel in the deepak chopra video
I love the CHL debunk of "spirit science".
@@AD-wg8ik who?
I hit him hard in my quantum mysticism debunk.
2:03 also they are incorrectly showing hydrogen bonding as a hydrogen binding intermolecularly with another hydrogen.
Hah! Good point. I missed that.
Love ur channel Dave keep up the debunking of stupidity or scammers
Dave I'll be so grateful if you make a video debunking Sadguru next. One of our middle school English teachers used him as a role model in almost every class, and now our batch is full of Sadguru "fans" following his pseudoscience.
How can anyone take sad guru seriously he is so obviously a con man.
@@dogwalker666 and he fooled my teacher, who enforced his "knowledge" on us. If we disobeyed, we lost internal marks.
@@tsampi that is disgraceful, it's also a good example of why a national curriculum is a good thing. You have my sympathy.
@@dogwalker666 our school does follow a national board. It's just that the class discipline and marks are 100% under the teacher's control. She was also sexist, partial and roped us into different activities we didn't enjoy.
I had to fight and win a debate against her in the principal's office once. Since then she hasn't dared to bother me or my friends...
@@tsampi nothing can be done .banglai sobai religious , science somporke ektuo dharona nei,thakleo mane na .. religion ke agge priority dai. Tumi toh ei bolcho,amar sir amader ke bole je boro boro scientists ra god e believe korto.ekta cancerous ghotona sunle pagol hoye jabe, amar sir amader ke jiggesh korechilo russia sobar agge kukur ke space e keno pathiyeche. Ami jobab diyechilam je space e living being exist korte pare ki na ar earth e return asar kono sombobona nei .Sir bole je russian scientists ra naki bhagbad gita porechilo ar sei onujai tara space e agge kukur "Laika" ke pathiyechilo. Ami just 🤐
Reminds me of when the woman giving out samples of multivitamins at Costco said something like "Vitamin C is so important because your cell walls are made of pure Vitamin C."
Humans, like any animal, do not have cell walls.
Well, unless they’re in jail. 😆
I cannot explain to you how glad I am that when I was a kid and saw Masaru Emoto talking about "words affecting the crystalisation of water", which completely contradicts the facts that: a) ice is literally the crystalline form of water just like Quartz is the crystalline, solid form of the same Quartz you could melt; basically, ice is a mineral b) emotions are a bunch of hormones and physiological reactions paired with the electrical impulses in one's nervous system or its equivalent c) words and symbols are not a universal constant and are a product of society, they cannot affect space-time, they cannot affect reality or the laws of nature, in the exact same sense how and why prayers, mantras and talismans cannot affect the world around them d) consciousness is not a human-only trait, it's the basis of lifeforms as all lifeforms require intellect to perform choices; a bunch of electricity happening in one's nervous system, ganglia, neuroid cells or whaTEVER is not going to affect the chemical properties of water
My reaction was just "huh??? that doesn't make any sense tho, how would that work???"
I was around 13.
You might want to do your own research and not automatically believe everything you hear on CZcams. Dr. Emoto (and he is a doctor from a real university in Japan. You can search that as well), has many published papers on gold standard double blind clinical trials on pubmed. His research has also been cited and replicated many times. Don't believe everything you see on yt. This video is one of the most disappointing "science" videos I've seen in quite a while. Please do your own research on what was said about Dr. Emoto and Dr. Montagnier. It is quite misleading the way he throws in some obvious charlatans who are trying to make quick money by scamming people right alongside true research scientists who are/were anything but charlatans. It is deeply disappointing and really very cynical.
Dear professor Dave. I want to thank you for this amazing video. I don’t know why but this specific video is always able to make me sleep. I don’t think I have ever fully watched it with my full attention either because I fell asleep or I just heard while doing something else. Falling asleep is not very easy for me and I have im kind of unable to fall asleep while not hearing anything. This video has helped me so much, thank you.