How Much Car Can I Afford (20/4/10 Rule)

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  • If you’re in the market to buy a car, you might be asking yourself “how much car can I afford?”. In this video I teach you the 20/4/10 Rule which is a great rule of thumb to understand how much car you can actually afford.
    Cars are a big financial decision that most of us have to make, and it's smart to go into a car buying situation knowing exactly how much you can truly afford. This video will help you do that.
    Although I still prefer to buy cars cash, I think that the 20/4/10 Rule is a good starting point for someone to decide if a car is affordable or not related to their income and budget.
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  • @WhiteBoardFinance
    @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +2176

    *Real men wear pink.*

    • @gavindabest
      @gavindabest Před 5 lety +21

      Keep it up :D

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +22

      @@gavindabest lol thanks gavin!

    • @123bigred
      @123bigred Před 5 lety +14

      I prefer blue or red...lol.... keep up the good work. These videos are very helpful.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +33

      Lol thank you! (My wife bought me the shirt I had to wear it)

    • @angelpayan4229
      @angelpayan4229 Před 5 lety +8

      Hey Marko, you have no idea how clearly you made me see with your financial schematics. My gf and I are saving for here electric car at an engrossing rate. Thank you for all that you do and keep up the astounding amount of effort you put into your videos. Oh 1 last thing, tell all these Neanderthals that PINK was actually a masculine colour back in the day. People are always the 2 I's: Ignorants and Idiots lmao

  • @510jesus
    @510jesus Před 5 lety +4713

    Unfortunately most people follow the YOLO rule. 😅😂🤣

    • @missnina198705
      @missnina198705 Před 5 lety +131

      510jesus I wanna get one so bad I’m broke and I want a luxury car too. It’s like I’m self sabotaging but YOLO ... jk kind of 🤪😏

    • @510jesus
      @510jesus Před 5 lety +91

      @@missnina198705 YOLO.... what about the peace of mind of not having to deal with monthly car payments and higher insurance costs. I just like the freedom of not having any payments, plus I can invest that money and get monthly interests and/or dividends. It's addicting seeing your money making more money for you :)

    • @MoneyGrowthAcademy
      @MoneyGrowthAcademy Před 5 lety +24

      Haha so true, we just discussed why you need a MLTL mindset (might live to long)

    • @510jesus
      @510jesus Před 5 lety +20

      @@MoneyGrowthAcademy long life would be nice. I'd be pissed if I don't get to enjoy these healthy savings. Lol

    • @omargenao7452
      @omargenao7452 Před 5 lety +7

      Facts lol

  • @tommieboi707
    @tommieboi707 Před 5 lety +2435

    I only use the 4 rule. Buy a car for 4k or less and drive it till the wheels fall off.

    • @patrickboyd3364
      @patrickboyd3364 Před 5 lety +112

      Smart man.

    • @helgavillavicencio9352
      @helgavillavicencio9352 Před 5 lety +281

      how many times a year do you do that?

    • @tommieboi707
      @tommieboi707 Před 5 lety +236

      @@helgavillavicencio9352 if you pick a good car(honda civic, toyota corolla) it can last you 10 years or more. Imagine saving 400 to 500 dollars a month or 4800 to 6000 per year by not having a car note. Imagine how much you can save in 5 years....10 years.....imagine investing that money....buy a cheap RELIABLE car and you wont have many issues.

    • @wilmer007
      @wilmer007 Před 5 lety +39

      @@helgavillavicencio9352 once every 10 years.

    • @marcin97
      @marcin97 Před 5 lety +113

      I have a 2007 Altima, now 12 years old since new. Just like my marriage, dents here and there but looks great cause I take care of it :-)

  • @jacobstrouble6631
    @jacobstrouble6631 Před 3 lety +454

    After following this kind of rule for 20+ years, I'm ready to bite the bullet and get something super expensive and nice. Driving old/used cars after a while starts to mess with your self-esteem and you just want to have something nice.

    • @caleblammers6032
      @caleblammers6032 Před 2 lety +10

      Then work for it

    • @sabokiTV
      @sabokiTV Před 2 lety +105

      @@caleblammers6032 seems like has for 20 years, douchebag

    • @davidnelson4347
      @davidnelson4347 Před 2 lety +174

      If you need a nice car to have high self esteem then you will never have high self esteem

    • @andersnielsen6044
      @andersnielsen6044 Před 2 lety +4

      @@davidnelson4347 Spot-on :)

    • @LesRequiem957
      @LesRequiem957 Před 2 lety +40

      @@davidnelson4347 Go ahead and drive around in a Toyota Prius then. I'm sure your self esteem will be unshaken.

  • @robcrossan6274
    @robcrossan6274 Před 2 lety +83

    I'm a Mechanic and so I always felt there was no point to making payments when I do not have to pay labor to fix my cars, I just fix them myself. I made payments on a 6 year old Camaro SS and even tho it was older with some mileage, it still felt like I had to put alot of cash aside to pay for it every month. In my opinion, it's just not worth it. Do your research and find an older vehicle that has a good reputation for reliability, and find a good shop that will take care of you. Save the money you would be spending on a payment, and also, scratches, dings, and dents and wear are inevitable. Its alot easier to get over a dent in a 10 year old beater than a brand new car your still paying for.

  • @elkofcanada5003
    @elkofcanada5003 Před 5 lety +1630

    I used to work in sales at Honda. I can tell you NO ONE did this. You'd constantly see 84 months with nothing down. People buy way more than they can afford. ....... Average person making 60k/yr usually bought a $40K car. Never ever saw anything less than 60 months. It's scary. No one can afford these new cars you see driving around.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +266

      Unfortunate. Those people will always be broke.

    • @kingcrab750
      @kingcrab750 Před 5 lety +117

      @Josh S Not necessarily true if you have excellent credit and can get good rate. I bought a $30K used car three years ago, wanted pay cash but the dealer offered 0.99% rate for 3 years, no down payment. I put the $30K in a savings account earning 1.5% interest. My monthly payment is about $860.

    • @dilididli2274
      @dilididli2274 Před 5 lety +30

      had a 60 month themr on my first new car and I have cleared it in 3 years. The salemans told me it was the first time he ever saw someone doing this. Personaly I always take themr that would let me pays my debt even if things goes wrong. So if everything goes as planned I just end paying more.

    • @kingcrab750
      @kingcrab750 Před 5 lety +5

      @Josh S I bought a used car, no rebates to speak of and price had already been negotiated before I told the F & I guy that I wanted to pay cash.

    • @510jesus
      @510jesus Před 5 lety +11

      That's crazy considering car insurance is through the roof in Canada

  • @jester92345
    @jester92345 Před 5 lety +444

    The most important thing you said here is “delayed gratification “! This is the real money smarts that people miss out in.

    • @chainsawcharlie2
      @chainsawcharlie2 Před 5 lety +5

      Yep. Time always beats money.

    • @financiallyinvested679
      @financiallyinvested679 Před 5 lety +9

      It’s a numbers game, people react to emotions rather than how the overall numbers affect them. I’m the complete opposite (it drives my social circle nuts). Numbers come first for me. If it puts me behind financially, no thanks.

    • @Miakel
      @Miakel Před 4 lety +9

      That is how poor stay poor. They have to have everything now. Save, damn it save!

    • @dlckddyd76
      @dlckddyd76 Před 4 lety +32

      @@Miakel save save save and baaaaam! You saved millions of dollars but you never get to use it cuz you died unexpectedly. Saving isn't the answer. Planning how to use the money you made is.

    • @moisestamayo5809
      @moisestamayo5809 Před 4 lety +3

      @@dlckddyd76 Exactly

  • @MichaelCarulli
    @MichaelCarulli Před rokem +154

    I did 17/6/13 and I'm doing alright. I think 20/4/10 is really hard to achieve nowadays. It's more of a guide, but the most important part is the last number - making sure your car payment doesn't exceed a certain percentage of your total income.

    • @CanuckBacon
      @CanuckBacon Před rokem +18

      Good luck, I make 19.50/hr meaning my total car *Expenditures* should not exceed $312 a month, find me a car that doesn't use half of that in gas alone, and the other half of that in insurance alone and that isn't absolutely falling apart

    • @jollysouwester56
      @jollysouwester56 Před rokem +10

      @@CanuckBacon I drive a 2017 ford ecosport, bought second hand with 20k km on the clock, montly payment is about 165,82 usd, gas lets say 100 and insurance 100. that comes to 360 which is more than your budget but im still young so insurance is high. I don't know where you live but I think most people are just full of shit, making up reasons why they need that brand new vw golf.

    • @theskiesrainfire
      @theskiesrainfire Před rokem +6

      Gas is more like 150 and I’m 31 and my insurance is 219 a month.
      No accidents or anything.
      In an old scion.
      Explain to me how I can find a car for 50 bucks a month to stay in my budget.
      I won’t even be making 60k next year.

    • @joeyhenderson1624
      @joeyhenderson1624 Před rokem +6

      @@theskiesrainfire 150 a month for gas ??? Bro you driving too much

    • @CJ-fh5xq
      @CJ-fh5xq Před rokem +2

      @@theskiesrainfire Holy crap $219 a month? You have a DUI or points on your license? I drive a 10 year old Hyundai Elantra and I only pay $40 a month in insurance and I'm 24...

  • @cubanjavonne
    @cubanjavonne Před 3 lety +20

    This video came right on time!! I was in the market for buying a Luxury car but this makes so much more sense to hold off on doing that. Thank you for this valuable information. It was truly helpful.

  • @l00katy0utb3
    @l00katy0utb3 Před 5 lety +922

    According to this math, I should be driving my mom's car.

  • @TheRandomeez
    @TheRandomeez Před 5 lety +438

    This guy is the math teacher that we all deserved in school.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +15

      Lol thanks Zahid

    • @ERICK-di1yz
      @ERICK-di1yz Před 3 lety +18

      Damn g, they should really be teaching these kind of things in school 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @gilph3
      @gilph3 Před rokem +3

      Inflation and shortages absolutely destroyed this vid

    • @CanuckBacon
      @CanuckBacon Před rokem

      He never even factored in insurance

    • @browning442
      @browning442 Před rokem +1

      you are exactly right, but it doesn't get taught properly or at all, hence parents need to do this

  • @shaneikiyasteel7073
    @shaneikiyasteel7073 Před 3 lety +12

    This has helped me so much, I have a beamer and I think I will most definitely follow this rule of sticking with my mock budget of saving my monthly car note for a couple of years so that I can buy it outright or finance my car at a lower rate!

  • @rab3_cle
    @rab3_cle Před rokem +55

    Its amazing what has happened in the past two years, this video needs an update. Out of the 2200 cars on carvana today, 850 of them are under 20k, and NONE of them are under 75k miles.

  • @AnishChari
    @AnishChari Před 5 lety +585

    "Hey Marco I can't afford to pay cash, what's the best way to finance a car?"
    "Buy a bus pass."

  • @Rali272
    @Rali272 Před 5 lety +1326

    I did this for 10yrs. Unfortunately my divorce took all of it. Don’t get married.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +252

      getting married was the best decision of my life

    • @lifeisgood070
      @lifeisgood070 Před 5 lety +3

      @@WhiteBoardFinance How many years and how many hours are you home / together during the week?

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +44

      A decent amount. But we also give each other our own space and time with friends

    • @J88HNT
      @J88HNT Před 5 lety +31

      Marko - WhiteBoard Finance You’re married which means you’re at risk of the divorce machine. 70%-80% of divorces are initiated by women so learn how to mitigate the damage. Follow Entrepreneurs In Cars, Rollo Tomassi and buy his book The Rational Male.

    • @J88HNT
      @J88HNT Před 5 lety +4

      Marko - WhiteBoard Finance great channel btw.

  • @brookebrady5817
    @brookebrady5817 Před 4 lety +106

    WOW. Thank you for your help. I am a girl in her mid 20's and buying cars has always been so stressful and confusing to me. I need to get a car soon and I didn't know if was making financially the right decision and because of this I am more confident in my decision. This video REALLY helped me.

    • @moosemoose1757
      @moosemoose1757 Před 2 lety +6

      marry rich

    • @curlyqween34
      @curlyqween34 Před 2 lety +3

      @@moosemoose1757 not enough rich men

    • @curlyqween34
      @curlyqween34 Před 2 lety +14

      @@moosemoose1757 and no one wants to have sec with old men

    • @rupert1438
      @rupert1438 Před rokem +3

      @@curlyqween34 this comment 💀😂😂🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

    • @curlyqween34
      @curlyqween34 Před rokem

      @@rupert1438 💀💀

  • @1005RyAnNnN1005
    @1005RyAnNnN1005 Před 4 lety +128

    they key note i took from this is "delaying gratification" and living below your means :) Thanks for this awesome video man.

    • @vezonf3nrak
      @vezonf3nrak Před 2 lety +1

      Why not live at your means instead of below or above?

    • @1005RyAnNnN1005
      @1005RyAnNnN1005 Před 2 lety +12

      @@vezonf3nrak living with in your means is totally fine but above it is why some people are living pay check to pay check. That's just me tho.

    • @Picmanreborn
      @Picmanreborn Před 2 lety

      That's what I took away from it too

    • @typhlosionisbest
      @typhlosionisbest Před 2 lety +3

      @@vezonf3nrak Living directly at your means doesn't allow you to save much, and that means you have no cushion in the case of an emergency. Accounting for every dollar is great, but spending every dollar is not.

    • @amdg01007
      @amdg01007 Před 2 lety

      But have you read millionaire fast lane?

  • @nico3641
    @nico3641 Před 5 lety +389

    No girlfriend during the first 4 years while you're saving and driving the beater car.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +38

      Haha true

    • @joker927
      @joker927 Před 5 lety +91

      Right? and that means you save even MORE! haha

    • @missnina198705
      @missnina198705 Před 5 lety +5

      😂

    • @danstrayer111
      @danstrayer111 Před 5 lety +29

      There won't be a decent one after that, either.
      Besides, any bitch who evaluates the merits of another human by what they drive has no place in my life ever.

    • @khadijaking711
      @khadijaking711 Před 5 lety +1

      😂😂😅 best funny comment 😂

  • @DanielIles
    @DanielIles Před 5 lety +6

    I love how you lay out the calculations in your videos! It really sets you apart and helps everyone watching tremendously!

  • @DanielleMarieW
    @DanielleMarieW Před 4 lety +7

    I keep coming back for your smile, Marko! This is really a sensible approach. I’m trying to defer purchasing an EV because they are still so expensive where I live ($46k and up) and I reckon that technology will only improve in the next few years. Used EVs have poorer range so not good value. I’m thinking a nice, cheap little gas car for the next 4 years.

  • @rickrazack6186
    @rickrazack6186 Před 3 lety +10

    Great simply and easy to follow video Marko. This video was a great reminder to take the emotional aspect out when looking for a car, and doing the right thing financially

  • @QuadGuyCy
    @QuadGuyCy Před 5 lety +95

    Who doesn't keep a vehicle after it's paid off? I bought my last truck used and kept it 21 years.

  • @digitalfootballer9032
    @digitalfootballer9032 Před 5 lety +284

    I try to keep a car 6 years, and take out 4 year loans. So for two years after my car is paid for, I put the equivalent of my payment in my savings account each month and pretend I still have a payment. So, for example my last car was $360 a month. So I saved around $8500 to put down on my next car. I actually bought a more expensive car the next time and had lower payments for 4 years (about $330 a month). I am now almost 6 years into my current car and it's in really good condition, so I might press for 7 or 8 years on this one, and have even more to put down on the next one.

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +24

      Smart

    • @MoneyGrowthAcademy
      @MoneyGrowthAcademy Před 5 lety +6

      Solid plan, pretty much what i would advise people to do when they came onto my lot to buy a car

    • @markhou
      @markhou Před 5 lety +17

      Weird flex but ok

    • @cristianmendoza6301
      @cristianmendoza6301 Před 5 lety +1

      Or if you actually got a car they maintains value then you could have just used that as a down payment or sold it for around 8,500 bit whatever floats you boat

    • @TykeMison_
      @TykeMison_ Před 5 lety +4

      A winning strategy someone told me is to save up for that used Craiglist car and buy it outright, then keep saving up until you can sell the first car and have more money for a better car. Repeat the process for several years and you'll be in nice car territory.

  • @ryanfaulkner181
    @ryanfaulkner181 Před 3 lety +9

    Marko great video and thank you for explaining all this! Only thing important for buyers to consider is inflation. Borrowing more(at lower rates) and investing remainder is potentially better return than paying with more cash.

  • @onlybryan47_
    @onlybryan47_ Před rokem +3

    Currently riding a bike to work everyday. There’s days where I see the blessings in the gray. I increase my heart health/stamina. Don’t have to worry about gas prices (Cali gas prices) iykyk. But there is days where I contemplate getting a reliable car not something way out of my means. It’s just a long patient waiting game. Having to save money for it

  • @vdub4utube
    @vdub4utube Před 5 lety +188

    You should always go the longest term as long as interest doesn't increase, then pay as if it is a short term loan. This way you can always fall back to the lower payment if needed or pay it off faster if you can.

    • @ericstewart9665
      @ericstewart9665 Před 4 lety +6

      This is an okay strategy when using the old standard 60 month rate but it diminishes with longer terms because the rates up up too far for the longer terms.....
      Also one must be very disciplined in paying well above the required payment because if too casual you'll 🔥 yourself as the longer loan is set to amortize over a longer time and if one doesn't aggressively attack it earlier and often you'll lose.

    • @daroga
      @daroga Před 4 lety +18

      Usually interest rates increase as the term increases.

    • @whatsitwhosit
      @whatsitwhosit Před 4 lety +23

      Agree with you. Luckily my credit scores have been good to great which helped with my interest rates. I always go for 72 months and always over pay. That way if I ever get in a pinch, I only have to pay my low-ish monthly payment. Recently paid off my current car and only paid half of the projected interest....I'm not unhappy about that.

    • @atcjoe1600
      @atcjoe1600 Před 4 lety +6

      Yep,that’s what I did. Around Christmas time I go back to the lower payment to have extra money. You also have to be diligent to send in the extra the rest of the year.

    • @karengrant3468
      @karengrant3468 Před 4 lety +5

      Like paying an extra mtg pmt a year takes off 7 yrs on mtg...

  • @johnj3577
    @johnj3577 Před 5 lety +124

    I'm the type that saves the $458 a month, builds it up to $22k then buys another $5k beater!

    • @smora6054
      @smora6054 Před 3 lety +27

      *buys 5k beater, spends 5k in maintenance per year, only lasts 2 years*

    • @adia000002
      @adia000002 Před 3 lety +4

      @@smora6054 that literally is happening to me right now lmfao

    • @DextahPC
      @DextahPC Před 3 lety +11

      @@smora6054 Don't buy a shitty $5k car then. Do your due diligence. $5k hardly gets you a "beater". I think of a beater being around 2k or less. I bought a 2008 Civic SI for $6k and it runs great. Unfortunately, I had to spend $1200 to replace the AC compressor the first year, but everything else has been preventative maintenance that you'd have to do on any vehicle. New tires, oil changes, replaced battery etc. BTW, that gives me no car payment, almost zero depreciation, and a reliable vehicle that won't leave me stranded. Not to mention it's an SI so it's a little sporty too.

    • @GoAdventure83
      @GoAdventure83 Před 3 lety +5

      @@smora6054 I bought a $5,000 car 5 years ago with 130,000 miles. Haven't done anything in maintaining it you wouldn't do with a brand new car. (Oil changes, brake pads, etc.) It now has 176,000 miles and runs just as good as day I got it. This car would last another 10 years if I wanted it to. I don't get how people think $5k cars are junk. I guess people just need to justify getting something nicer than they need.

    • @Bodangers
      @Bodangers Před 3 lety +2

      @Ivan Schlotzky what if he doesnt care about getting laid

  • @aplayz5055
    @aplayz5055 Před 3 lety +5

    i honestly didn’t think i would learn anything but i learn so much from this

  • @JesusMendoza-gj8jj
    @JesusMendoza-gj8jj Před 3 lety +19

    i didnt buy my lexus until i had all the money needed even then i just kept the 30k and financed. keeping your cash is worth the few grand your going to spend on interest.

  • @stephendverner
    @stephendverner Před 4 lety +31

    If you know what to look for you can get a solid car for under $5k. Sharing your videos with my 20yr old son who is a Marine in hopes he doesn’t go buy a car he can’t afford.

  • @starmkd18
    @starmkd18 Před 5 lety +451

    America's financial problems
    Calculating stuff using gross income instead of net income after health insurance
    Gross is not take home pay
    And to add the fact that almost everything people buy, they have to account for around 10% in sales tax

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +41

      Agreed

    • @micheleogle6036
      @micheleogle6036 Před 4 lety +15

      Yes, I would like if he took net income into his calc. People work with what the bring home in their check. However, to be fair, loans are are often based on gross.

    • @jselly2013
      @jselly2013 Před 4 lety +13

      100% agree. Gross means nothing. Also deduct rent if you are living in LA, NY or any other expensive area

    • @yateswebb
      @yateswebb Před 4 lety

      Lololol

    • @Republic1ders
      @Republic1ders Před 4 lety +3

      Lmao facts

  • @leandrobaluyotjr5181
    @leandrobaluyotjr5181 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you Marco for this valuable video presentation for would be car buyers !HAPPY,HEALTHY & PROSPEROUS 2021 TO YOU !

  • @michaelrefuerzo9186
    @michaelrefuerzo9186 Před 4 lety +2

    Great to have stumbled upon your channel. Cheers for sharing these and for keeping things realistic. It just makes it a lot less boring.

  • @DavidJao
    @DavidJao Před 5 lety +157

    My first four cars were: a seven year old Buick, a five year old Buick, a 12 year old Corolla, and a 15 year old Camry, all super cheap used cars paid for in cash. Sure, I had above average repair bills, but nowhere near the cost of new car payments. I drove those cars for a total of 20 years of adult life and saved the car payment every month in savings. I've never paid a car payment to someone else -- only to myself.
    Last year I bought a brand new Tesla paid in full in cash using just a fraction of those savings. Anyone can do this with discipline, smarts, and time.

    • @d-block6136
      @d-block6136 Před 5 lety +21

      Congrats David! The most important word in your comment was Discipline!! Most people dont have it...its a work in progress for me!!

    • @digitalfootballer9032
      @digitalfootballer9032 Před 5 lety +5

      Years back, I got a free Buick (my grandma's car when she got too old to drive). Had to put about $1500 into it for new tires and a couple minor repairs, and it was basically a cream puff. Had it two year and my uncle wanted it for his grandson. He knew I wanted a pick up truck, so he offered me his Toyota Tacoma, which was valued at about $12K, for $8K plus the Buick. That was a good deal because the Buick was 12 years old at the time and not worth much. So I did it, kept the Tacoma a year, and then traded it in for a new truck and got $12,700 on the trade. So I basically made money on the truck. So basically, I had 3 years of vehicle usage, and made $3200 off it. $1500 into the Buick, paid $8000 for the Tacoma, then got $12,700 for it. The truck I bought in its place I have had 6 years now and is still running strong and has been paid off for two years, and I have been saving for the next vehicle, which I am in no hurry to get as long as my current one keeps holding up. All this built off of a free grandma car I put a few bucks into.

    • @mikesantos011
      @mikesantos011 Před 5 lety +4

      Bought a 13 year old corolla off craigslist for $1500 last year as a commuter car and have had ZERO issues with it. Took it to the dealership for an inspection and they could find nothing wrong with it. Also insurance was only an additional $10 a month lol. I will never finance a car

    • @samkeepintherockalive
      @samkeepintherockalive Před 5 lety +2

      Good for you! But, check this out. I went 8 years with out making a car payment, and when I wanted to borrow money, nobody wanted to lend it to me because I had no credit history! Making car payments is not evil. It will help you obtain credit. The system penalized me for not financing a car!

    • @DavidJao
      @DavidJao Před 5 lety +3

      @@samkeepintherockalive Car payments are a horrifically expensive way to build credit history. You can get a credit card and pay it off every month and do just as well.

  • @itsJoshWashington
    @itsJoshWashington Před 5 lety +5

    Okay, this is a video I can get behind. Good job on this one. Literally no misinformation here. Good job!

  • @michaelrivers4363
    @michaelrivers4363 Před rokem +2

    Differed gratification...... a lost art.
    Thank you!!!
    Great job.
    I almost jumped on a BMW......
    It can wait 4 years.
    I appreciate you.
    New subscriber!!!

  • @SlyEvoIX
    @SlyEvoIX Před 3 lety +8

    I’m a car guy so I’d rather eat ramen and clip coupons so I can afford a nicer car. My M3 was paid off in cash but it took many years of saving up. One strategy I use is to take advantage of dealer finance if it’s lower than your rate of return for investments, so your investment income can cover the interest/car payment. Also, buy used.

  • @HonestFinance
    @HonestFinance Před 5 lety +43

    Great video Marko!! It’s insane how much we spend on cars and how much we could be saving instead

    • @WhiteBoardFinance
      @WhiteBoardFinance  Před 5 lety +3

      Thank you!! Thanks for stopping by

    • @richardgarcia6201
      @richardgarcia6201 Před 5 lety +1

      Because a car is our feet lol

    • @dharmaram7527
      @dharmaram7527 Před 4 lety +2

      If you have a long commute or driving is essential to your line of work than yeah you can see why people put an emphasis on driving a newer car. All those hours wasted sitting in traffic it makes sense why someone would want to drive a car that’s reliable, safe, and comfortable.

  • @tannera3963
    @tannera3963 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for the videos Marko!
    To add to the "buy with cash" method, Dave Ramsey had a good video about this too.
    You also get to factor in the sale of your car.
    Year 0: Buy for $5,000
    Year 1: Saved $11,000, Sell Car for $4500+, Buy a $15,000
    Year 2: Saved Another $6000, sell car for $14000+, Buy a $20,000
    You get a newer better car every year and can move up in class and quality, and get a newer car until you get to the recommended "max" of 25% net income. All done with cash and in a very small number of years.

  • @MichaelDeLaRosa
    @MichaelDeLaRosa Před 3 lety +4

    This videos is a sign, I was really about to finance my dream corvette today. But I know it’s not the smartest decision lol. Man I really hope this delayed gratification pans out well, the car was so nice!!!!
    Think I’m just gunna get a pickup for my lawn business.

  • @TicklerDude
    @TicklerDude Před 3 lety +26

    I have one rule. I buy a car with cash. No payments. No hassle. No stress. No exceptions.

  • @victorplazas1208
    @victorplazas1208 Před 5 lety +7

    Awesome! Wish I had seen this video two years ago when I bought my car, but I’ll make sure to apply when buying the next one.

  • @HiwasseeRiver
    @HiwasseeRiver Před 5 lety +11

    Still driving my cash bought 1996 Tacoma, super low total cost over 20+ years. No regrets. Your third scenario actually works and it can be one way to free up funds for investment. Driving a beater to the bank is awesome!

  • @hollowfragment237
    @hollowfragment237 Před 2 lety +9

    I bought my first car at 20 for $3k and only put about $900 in maintenance in two years. I’d say it was a good decision, it’s an old civic that was well kept and I plan on riding it until I hit 200-300k miles on it. Bought it at 140k. The engine was rebuilt. It sucks not having a flashy car at my age but most of the ppl my age are usually broke or have parents that are able to pay for such things. I don’t have any car payments other than insurance which is only about $400 for 6 months. I do plan on holding my car for a while then I’ll consider using this method to buy it. I was thinking putting $7k for the down payment for a $20k car instead just to keep my monthly payment below the $300 mark. I noticed they try to sign you for 72 month lease and that disgusts me. Thanks for your video it was very insightful.

  • @JoyJunction_
    @JoyJunction_ Před 3 lety +4

    I love how Marko knows he's gonna get trolled LOL.. This channel by the way is a GOLD, I am learning so much i just wish i knew about it like 3 years ago

  • @Isaac-rk4gm
    @Isaac-rk4gm Před 5 lety +13

    Really good and informative video! Been tempted to finance a new car recently but this puts things into perspective. Gonna hold off on this and continue driving my beater

  • @damonsmith7661
    @damonsmith7661 Před 5 lety +48

    I know you want that new car,hell we all do...but just keep going to work and saving your money.....you'll get there I promise!!

    • @tieylandrun132
      @tieylandrun132 Před 5 lety

      DaMon Smith it’s funny you say that it takes money to make money

    • @Koushi82
      @Koushi82 Před 4 lety

      Nope rather save money

  • @invisiblebuffalo4382
    @invisiblebuffalo4382 Před 2 lety +12

    Excellent advice, with the 20/4/10 rule. But I love the idea of saving up over a few years to get a better car in the future..
    Thanks Marko

    • @MisoElEven
      @MisoElEven Před 2 lety

      The 10 part of the rule is bs outside of US and western europe though.. For example here in Slovakia if I dont want to completely work my ass off Ill get around 1000€/month netto (not enough experience to get a better pay but thats going to improve with time I guess). That would mean I can pay 100€ monthly for a car :D I would actually turn this rule 180° to something like "counting normal monthly spending and the car you should every month be left with 10% of your monthly income still left for emergencies and/or investment".... Every month Im left with 600-700€ that I can invest or spend, no reason why I wouldnt be able to afford a 300-400€ monthly car payment (+100€ gas and 50€ insurance).

  • @kevinh.whalum5399
    @kevinh.whalum5399 Před rokem +7

    I really like and appreciate your energy, Marko. Thanks for helping people!👍🏾

  • @cameronstudley5447
    @cameronstudley5447 Před 4 lety +3

    You’re videos are super informative and entertaining too! Thankyou marko learning a lot from these!

  • @fawkes1570health
    @fawkes1570health Před 5 lety +5

    Thanks for this video Marko. Really appreciate it. The power of patients is very rewarding.

  • @Flex4LX
    @Flex4LX Před rokem +4

    3 years ago I bought my car after watching this video. So happy I only got 1 year left 🚘😎

  • @donaldgeorge1166
    @donaldgeorge1166 Před 3 lety +4

    This video was amazing and helpful. Just left a dealership without buying after watching your videos. Thanks man!

  • @TheGlennAbides
    @TheGlennAbides Před 4 lety +20

    That's good advice. I wouldn't want to take my car on any long trips so I will rent one for a weekend getaway. And if it breaks down just call the rental place and say "Your car broke down bring me another one" is awesome.

  • @nyrmk1
    @nyrmk1 Před 5 lety +3

    Most informative, Marko. You definitely learned from your collegiate education. Congrats! Thanks for helping others, too.

  • @williamkeating893
    @williamkeating893 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, keep them coming.

  • @uniquedesigns6045
    @uniquedesigns6045 Před 3 lety +3

    this video was EXTREMELY useful - thanks so much

  • @stereomaster4231
    @stereomaster4231 Před 5 lety +80

    Great video. I just made my last payment on my BMW in April. Never again will I take on a car payment

    • @tammywheet6931
      @tammywheet6931 Před 5 lety +5

      Amen to that.
      Me either God willing and the creek don't rise! Lol

    • @stereomaster4231
      @stereomaster4231 Před 5 lety +1

      @Fuhq Boi burner account

    • @Drogers8675
      @Drogers8675 Před 4 lety

      You should lease a new BMW.

    • @jamesduggan5846
      @jamesduggan5846 Před 4 lety

      Love my BMW. Take really good care of it and you will get your value out of it w/ many years of service. Please don’t sell it or trade it b/c you will take a bath in depreciation. Just drive it to the end and enjoy.

    • @hubertkam7647
      @hubertkam7647 Před 3 lety +2

      if you spend that money on a 1980s bmw that you bought for 40k 5 or 10 years ago you would have 200k+ now

  • @Speedysnail9999
    @Speedysnail9999 Před 4 lety +21

    For all the high school kids watching, here’s a budget friendly option: 1999/500/0. 1999 Toyota Camry, $500 down, $0 monthly payment. Those bad boys never seem to die.

    • @jessewarren9177
      @jessewarren9177 Před 4 lety +3

      I have not seen a 1999 Honda or Toyota for less than $3500 in years. Those days are long gone.

    • @sw1mXfr3ak
      @sw1mXfr3ak Před 4 lety

      My 2001 has 150k miles still chugging along!

  • @tinyman520
    @tinyman520 Před 4 lety +5

    Solid advice. I bought all my vehicles with cash until my most recent purchase. I’m not great with finance but I hate debt. I would buy a vehicle drive it for several years give it away (literally for free) when I was tired of it or started costing me more than car was worth. My most recent however I couldn’t resist. Tired of dreaming of a muscle car I may one day have enough cash to buy, I went out purchased a loaded scat pack charger. So far nothing but smiles and I’ve managed to pay more than my monthly payments. Hope to payoff in 3 years and buy another muscle car. Worth every penny!

    • @amandaburleson2035
      @amandaburleson2035 Před rokem

      how is it going with your scat pack. do you regret buying it yet

    • @tinyman520
      @tinyman520 Před rokem

      @@amandaburleson2035 not yet!! I don’t think I’ll have it paid off in the three years I wanted as that’s coming up, but possibly 4. Other than alignment and new touch screen everything has been great.

  • @vitskr1
    @vitskr1 Před 4 lety +76

    meanwhile in real world he buys car in cash, spends those 470 every month on some stuff he doesn't even need. and ends up with zero savings and million year old broken car

    • @TR0LLREIGN
      @TR0LLREIGN Před 3 lety +34

      There is an ancient joke where the doctor says to his patient:
      "If you saved up all the money you spent on cigarettes over the past 30 years, you could be driving a Ferrari!"
      "That's a great point Doc. You don't smoke do you?"
      "No of course not."
      "So where's your fucking Ferrari?"

    • @maxlastbreath
      @maxlastbreath Před 3 lety +2

      @@TR0LLREIGN LMAO

  • @Shredxcam22
    @Shredxcam22 Před 5 lety +46

    I enjoy the math as an engineer. Keep it up and I would enjoy some advance finance math even if that means some calc.
    Just not on cars. I drive old junkers

    • @antwandurham9965
      @antwandurham9965 Před 5 lety

      Mech engineer here!

    • @Shredxcam22
      @Shredxcam22 Před 5 lety

      @sylenceexposed most videos don't show any math and skip it or omit it since most people don't find it entertaining. I wish he had more advanced math but I get his channel would suffer viewers if he did a ton of math.

  • @LaidleyM
    @LaidleyM Před rokem +4

    I’m putting down 50%, financing over 60 months (it’s the same interest rate as 48 months) but paying well above the minimum payment, and with that increased payment putting 10% of income towards the payment.
    It’ll be paid off quicker than needed, give me flexibility if there are months I need to reduce my planned payment, and still leaves me cash leftover to invest and have in a safety fund.
    This is all to buy my dream car, which in itself has some intrinsic value to ME. To some, a vehicle is solely to get from point A to point B as economically as possible. I understand that perspective too.

  • @henrycarey5657
    @henrycarey5657 Před 2 lety +1

    So many people need to hear this. People in my life already are asking me if I’m gonna start looking at cars after I paid off my current one, and the title isn’t even here yet! It’s crazy to me, I’m literally just setting aside my monthly payment in my brokerage account and I’m handy to where I can maintain my current car and save money that way. Like you said, delaying gratification will be a benefit in a few years time when I’ve got a sizable amount of money ready when the time comes for a new vehicle.

  • @frankonoodll438
    @frankonoodll438 Před 5 lety +26

    At first, I was like "What a douche-Looking ex-car salesman", Now i'm like "Everyone, stops everything you are doing, Marko just released a new one!". Damn boy, where did you got that charisma ??

  • @myboibill
    @myboibill Před 5 lety +4

    Really like your videos. All sound proven advice. Keep posting Marko!

  • @abulc.4996
    @abulc.4996 Před 4 lety +2

    Dude this channel is gold

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- Před rokem +4

    I used a low APR bank loan to purchase my car, this opened my eyes to paying it off earlier because I can simply login to my account and pay off extra each month, ending it far far quicker! Thanks again Marko you legend!

  • @MCNeurotiK
    @MCNeurotiK Před 4 lety +99

    Makes me wish I didn't love cars so much. My current car isn't even a beater, but driving it every day kills my soul. I'd rather pay 28,000 over the next 6 years to drive a car that I like than drive a car that I hate for 4 years and not have to worry at all afterwards.

    • @PrettyINCs
      @PrettyINCs Před 4 lety +17

      If you love cars work your ass off to buy what you like. Just cut some place else. This is for the rest of us who care more about money than cars.

    • @rookie4582
      @rookie4582 Před 4 lety +7

      Fortunately, I’ve had a scholarship for college and been able purchase a very nice modern Civic HB Sport, easily making monthly payments. Thankfully I have a fairly good job for my age. Sure, not the most cost efficient way, time can’t be bought. Rather have a nice car young than old. I’m still able to save.

    • @tommieboi707
      @tommieboi707 Před 4 lety +3

      In 6 years your 28k will be worth 5k. Thats a real good investment!

    • @FOXDADDYSUPREME1
      @FOXDADDYSUPREME1 Před 4 lety +2

      The way I've done this is with 2 cars. The daily, and the cheap fun car. There's tons of great depreciated stuff out there, have fun for a year or two and sell it for as much as you bought it for. Miatas, s2000, c4/c5 Corvettes, ls1 Camaros, TJ wranglers... No matter what you like, there is awesome stuff out there for cheap, and you don't need it to run all the time

    • @KingVegeta90
      @KingVegeta90 Před 4 lety +2

      tommieboi707 i see it as an expense rather then investment. I finished college driving my beater and I’m honestly tired of it. At this point I just a want a nice car that brings me me happiness lol. I’ve fixed all my cars my self learning through CZcams and forums and have managed to save a a decent amount of money the last years few years. I study finance in school and I’m all about the numbers but sometimes you gotta indulge a little.

  • @NeoAndersonReloaded
    @NeoAndersonReloaded Před 5 lety +30

    With this formula I can do a payment of $900 but I chose a 2014 accord with $250 payment. Its a mindset!

    • @RelaxAndSmokeMeth
      @RelaxAndSmokeMeth Před 5 lety +2

      Long live Honda.

    • @Shaolinof36thChamber
      @Shaolinof36thChamber Před 5 lety +2

      My folks got a new Honda Jazz (showroom car) back in 2009.
      Until today not a single repair.
      Cheers on to the next years.

    • @Lex-Rex
      @Lex-Rex Před 5 lety +1

      Rolling fat ese, but for some strange reason, I don't believe you.

    • @jeffghant4760
      @jeffghant4760 Před 3 lety

      @@Shaolinof36thChamber No repairs for 10 years? Not even a check engine light?

    • @Shaolinof36thChamber
      @Shaolinof36thChamber Před 3 lety

      @@jeffghant4760 Yearly inspections.
      Zero repairs so far. The car is still running on Day 1 parts. Besides the tires of course.

  • @TETrading
    @TETrading Před 3 lety +2

    This is so needed for me right now! Thank you!

  • @Roy-ze8eo
    @Roy-ze8eo Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the advice it really helped create a picture of a realistic budget

  • @JaguarPaw1
    @JaguarPaw1 Před 5 lety +4

    this is great, I'll add your video to my Understanding Car Financing Playlist, I just helped a truck driver save $13,800 in interest after we fixed his Equifax report/score, I'll do my 10yrs on CZcams helping people with their credit video next week and will tell people to come to your channel to understand financing, you break it down nice so people can understand, thanks!

    • @crxmassive
      @crxmassive Před 5 lety +2

      Ha, look who's here. We all can learn something from each other. I listen to Gizzy about credit. Gizzy listens to Marko about finance. :-)

    • @JaguarPaw1
      @JaguarPaw1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@crxmassive Marko is the man in explaining things to the common man and we always day, yeah I get it lol thanks for subscribing to both of us!

    • @crxmassive
      @crxmassive Před 5 lety +1

      @@JaguarPaw1 Yes Gizzy, I enjoy watching both of you guys videos. Simple and easy to understand.

  • @TheShlongman
    @TheShlongman Před 4 lety +43

    But at the end of 4 years he would still own a 22k car, just would have been able to have been driving it for the 4 years if he financed it. So it’s under $500 a year to drive the nicer car for four years ($1900 interest)
    The only benefit of buying a beater and then saving for a car is after the 4 years your car wouldn’t have depreciated.

    • @ericnunez3316
      @ericnunez3316 Před 4 lety +2

      But he will save on not having to pay interest on that 22k car. Plus the beater can still be sold

    • @domthemom2270
      @domthemom2270 Před 3 lety +7

      @@ericnunez3316 yeah, but 1000 over 4 years is 250 a year avg. That's just like an extra fee in the title and registration. If it's also more reliable, then you spend less time maintaining it, and time is money.

  • @DanielReimer
    @DanielReimer Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so much! THIS HELPED ME ALOT!!!

  • @52foreman52
    @52foreman52 Před 4 lety +9

    "What two things stick out you when you look at these numbers?" - That none of my customers are ever going to be in a position to do this.

  • @proudfleet
    @proudfleet Před 4 lety +3

    I have never purchased a new car it has always been a used car. Then I generally try to put more then 20% but after I present the initial downpayment. That allows me to see what the Taxes & Tags of the car then I can add more money to the principle of the car which will lower my monthly over the course of 3 years and establish a good credit rating. Now I have always purchased my houses brand new and have made a profit when selling to the next owner. Great Video !

  • @randomcitizen19
    @randomcitizen19 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm so glad I stumbled across this channel.

  • @peterock9682
    @peterock9682 Před 3 lety +9

    This is all common sense but people don’t care about interest or future saving, people want a new car and they want it now. Screw it tomorrow ain’t promised .

  • @AdamSmith-hn5bo
    @AdamSmith-hn5bo Před 3 lety +1

    Really liked the video Marko! I think a cool video (sorry if you’ve already made it) would be the true cost of car ownership. For example buying a new car factoring projected maintenance, increased car registration fees, mpg, and initial buying price. And do an analysis of buying a 5 year old car and a 10 year old car would have to be the same make and models. Lots of moving parts but when you got excel you got no worries.

  • @johnnybravisimo007
    @johnnybravisimo007 Před 4 lety +5

    hey Marko! love ALL your videos! Just wanted to mention that I negotiated a deal at the dealership. I did this before on my previous truck. I lowered the price of the vehicle and got a 6 yr loan to keep the monthly payment down in case I lose work (which I may add that my work is union so work comes and goes). BUT, when I work, I make the normal car payments PLUS an additional bi weekly payments to avoid interest and of course pay the loan quicker. I ended up paying the vehicle in about four years but I never struggled because my payments were low. My APR was also low too. It worked for me, but if you could explain to others that this can be an option as well. (if its good advice of course).

  • @alexlebroski
    @alexlebroski Před 5 lety +16

    I was watching the Avengers: Endgame theories and somehow ended up here. Good to know! Thanks, boss.

  • @nicknygaard4122
    @nicknygaard4122 Před rokem +1

    "delaying gratification" is such good advice. As a reformed car guy, I've seen friends by new corvettes and then have their mom transfer money to cover them for dinner with friends. They are still like this (yolo). I've driven as old rav 4 with 170k for about 8 years and am just now thinking of a new car which I will be paying cash.

  • @mindbender3379
    @mindbender3379 Před 3 lety +2

    Great benchmark finance guidance!!

  • @samkeepintherockalive
    @samkeepintherockalive Před 5 lety +17

    Great video! One of the best lessons my dad taught me was to put down 25% of the cost of the car and to NEVER finance it for more than 48 months.

  • @mktbully
    @mktbully Před 5 lety +6

    Good video, just don't forget tax that needs to be baked into the equation. Taxes on interest income/cap gain and then tax on the vehicle that you purchase.

  • @iepljoshua
    @iepljoshua Před 4 lety

    Wow thanks for sharing this! I really am enjoying your videos.

  • @DailyElectrician
    @DailyElectrician Před 2 lety +3

    great video, thanks

  • @andrewa626
    @andrewa626 Před 5 lety +15

    I'd rather spend 5k for a used Silverado that has damaged seats but needs little to no drivetrain work, than spend 10k for a Mercedes that looks amazing inside but is about to fall apart. Just me

  • @a-zmindset6624
    @a-zmindset6624 Před 5 lety +9

    Good video, i t really depends on your EXPENSE situation. My rule is 50 percent of your net income should cover ALL your bills.
    Ex. If you bring home after taxes $3000 a month. Total expenses should be no more than (1500). Take the rest and invest and get yourself and emergency fund to cover car repairs house repairs etc. I have a newer bmw and a hyundai that I own (paid cash for it.)
    I say this because sometimes you can t just buy a car cash. So one may have to finance and have bad credit. Which happens.
    My wife finaced years ago a 2002 audi. Great car super clean. Her credit was bad so her interest rate was a whopping 23%.
    With her beater trade in car was 8200 out the door. Payment was 238/ month for 54 months. We paid it off in 2 years. Yes we paid some interest but the car lasted 5 years. No payment for 3/years)
    In closing everyone situation is different. Just dont get a car payment that will put you in a situation where you can t invest or you are living paycheck to paycheck.
    Wish we could have paid cash but that wasn t an option at the time.
    Good vid👍

  • @armandoramos1949
    @armandoramos1949 Před 4 lety +1

    I find your videos informative and interesting. Thanks for sharing, have a wonderful day.

  • @louisoome6038
    @louisoome6038 Před 2 lety +2

    Marko great video. You just solved the puzzle. 🙏

  • @cokemachine62590
    @cokemachine62590 Před 5 lety +7

    Great advice, but the truth of the matter is that most people, given the opportunity to not have a car payment, would not save that money and just spend it elsewhere. You should mention that in your next video - the biggest piece to this is having the self-discipline to actually put money in a savings account and not touch it

  • @beaviswealth
    @beaviswealth Před 5 lety +4

    Never heard of this one. Makes sense for a lot of people that don’t got the cash pile set aside hahah

    • @mrantone916
      @mrantone916 Před 5 lety +1

      Ahhhh! The douche man will always exist, stay strong and douchie. ✊

  • @sina7613
    @sina7613 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm so glad I found you Marko ❤

  • @QWEEKEN73
    @QWEEKEN73 Před 3 lety

    I just bought a new car, and having slight buyers remorse. Then I realized I actually meet the 20/4/10 rule. Thanks for the reassurance!

  • @Andrew83194
    @Andrew83194 Před 3 lety +8

    No matter how much you spend on a car it’s always financially best to drive it until the wheels fall off

  • @GovmntLacky
    @GovmntLacky Před 2 lety +7

    Need to make a newer video with TODAYS pricing. Now, $22K will buy the “beater” car 🤣

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 Před 2 lety

      I wouldn’t call a $22K Honda Civic a beater car, unless your everyday driver is a Bentley.

  • @reatherhollingsworth2097

    Great info and I totally agree. Cash is best!

  • @elvispink4792
    @elvispink4792 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video Marko nicely explained