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Being a Lineman - Episode 2
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 12. 2019
- Episode 2 - Cracked cutout at midnight
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Hey Everyone ! I've started this new Playlist on my channel in which I will be sharing actual footage of what my days look like ! Whether its during regular work or a call out in the middle of the night , I will try my best to capture some footage and explain step by step our procedures (when its safe to do so). This playlist will not only help people better understand our trade, but also those that are on their to journey to becoming a Journeyman Lineman!
I would love to answer any of your questions below !
#lineman #beingalineman #lineworker
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We amateur radio operators tune our car radio to around 600 to 700 where there is no AM station and listen as the static from a leaking insulator comes and goes as we follow the line from the closest road. One lineman commented he never knew his car radio could hear leaky insulators.
I love the sound of that diesel engine starting up especially on that cold morning. That starter is probably drawing a 1000 amps from the battery.
Dude, amazing video. Explaining the work permit process, and the troubleshooting when the recloser bumped. This is the stuff I came here to see. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome ! glad to hear that !
Phase to Phase short explains the huge flash over, Classic Porcelain cut out failure. Love your videos bud!
There were/are thousands of fused disconnects that have a resistor vs insulator ceramic. These are usually a problem during light rain when the water forms steps for corona flash over. These defective insulators can be identified any time the line is energized with an infrared camera. A utility in US found 300 defective with infrared. Saved lots of outages. I have also seen these labeled as hazardous in substations.
Also look for loose cross arm bolts, I have seen these arcing.
Thanks for all the hard work and good videos. Stay safe.
I'm learning so much... so glad I found this channel
Thanks for your work video! Itâs given me a better feel for what itâs like before I pull the trigger on line school
Thanks for bringing back the memories for me. Retired Baltimore lineman here. Stay safe
I would like to say thks to you for all your videos! I really love your channel, im lineman too in France and we need a channel like your in French! So thks again and stay safe đŒâĄđ§
Got the same ringtone! everytime my phone rings at night that mean HELPING PEOPLE GET THE POWER back. Thumps up BOB
Damn once I heard your phone ring thought I was getting a call out hahahahahahahaha
Hahha too funny ! I've gotta change that ringer ... It's starting to give me anxiety everytime I hear it ! Lol
I have the exact ring tone on my phone as well... honest to God thought my phone was ringing...yet I'm watching your video on said phone... Lmao..
Yes, the dreaded phone call that always comes at the worst possible time. It's been over 50 years since I did this type of work and the sound of phone ringers still make the hair stand up on the back of my neck just as the rotor slap sound from UH-1 Hueys still does to this day. Also, my ole Chevy utility truck AM radio tuned to distant AM station was the best arc detector ever invented at that time, it would buzz like crazy the closer I got to the under power fault.
That's really interesting! That totally makes sense the A.M frequency would pick that up! Thanks for sharing đđ and yah, I actually change my ringer every few months as the sound does get pretty dreadful
@@Bobsdecline Thanks for replying you made an old retired Lineman day!
this is nice to see. not a lot of lineman content out there. im about to start within the next month at a major power company as a groundhand, leaving contracting work as a 3rd class. this gives me a little more insight as to what to expect doing callouts, which ive never done before.
Hey bro! I work on Quality of substation units running 140 BIL up! Big units that will tolerate problems like you have to fix unless they are extremely severe. I happened to watch an insulation breakdown in a pole mounted unit on my street. Wow! What a show!
Yes this is why i love line work i work in Jamaica and we talk to dispatchers are system control the same something might be a little different but bro it's the same one love stay safe out there
Hey Everyone ! Sorry I had to cut things a little short towards the end ... my phone only had 2% battery left lol
Don't forget to Subscribe to my channel ! đ
Awesome video to see what all to look for while on the line. Just started my lineman career six months ago and loving every minute. Thanks dude!!!
Thanks man! That's awesome that things are going well for ya! It's a trade where you will continue to learn for the rest of your career!
Be safe! đđ
Very interesring, learn something everytime you upload a new video !
Awesome thanks for letting me know ! We have a great team of guys around these parts đ
Itâs amazing how resilient our grid is
Love your videos. Thanks for posting. Nice collection of McDonald's Coffee stickers ;)
Thanks, I looked through comments to see if anyone else asked or knew what the hell the white stickers were on the truck
What I hated the most about being on-call was working during the night and then had to show up for work at 8 the next morning. I believe things have changed since then.
Love your vids !
I love the middle of the night troubles, always a new project, but itâs rough waking up sometimes.
wish i could work with you!
Definitely rough waking sometimes! Usually if it's for a fire or something adrenaline seems to make it a little easier tho lol.
Great part at night is it's nice and quiet ... No traffic đ
Cheers Alex! đâïž
Yesss this is what I was just talking about on your other cutout vid, man this one you found put on quite a light show! Where I live in Ohio I just saw one broken in half...top half still on the bracket, bottom half hanging. Fuse likely on the ground. I still have photos I'd started taking of other broken ones. Awesome vid â
Haha cool. I wish I had caught the last flash on video! It was way bigger then the first couple.I was just pulling away to go dump the line so I had my camera shut off. I often wonder how all these new ones are gonna hold up in 20 years... Surely the plastic and rubber will eventually track.
Thanks for the feedback! đ
Where in ohio are you ? I'm in north eastern. Near canton.
Awesome video, awesome job!!!
Stay safe brother
Thanks brother ! You as well đ
Your account came to me via the magical CZcams algorithm (Hooking up underground power video). Cheers to what your trade does to keep the world moving. It's hard, technical work but rewarding (I hope), and the technical knowledge and experience required to do it safely is fascinating to me. It's called "Electrical *theory*" for a reason! Stay safe, sir.
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment đ. Yes it's very rewarding, especially during large storms/outages
Great video !!! I hope I can become a lineman one day it looks like it's a great career
It really is ! I hope you do too !
Question/What is it? In North/South Dakota as well as rural Minnesota, there are these weird looking diamond shaped / bent metal plates put in between the utility poles along the road side. These are not on the live electric lines but on the phone/cable lines that ride below the hot wires. Do you know what these devices are used for? Possibly to keep the lines from twisting in the wind and act as a anti-wind-twist device so the lines do not flip...flip...flip...flip and eventually snap...this is only a guess.
On call Lineman, dude nice vlog, more video to come
Thanks man! đ
Lots of McCafé stickers up in that truck
That's what is known in the trade as an arc fault. Regular reclosers and fuses won't trip under those conditions as the resistance is too high and current too low.
those porcelain cutouts can be tricky but my utility just will replace them with a polymer or just jumper the wier over or under the crossarm
I. Worked for AT&T did some making on batteries rectifiers and generators. Nothing high voltage but they are high current and can be dangerous. We had a huge fire in our los Angeles office started by batteries probably due to someone not using insulated tools.those batteries can badly burn you.
A lot of out of phase single phase switching points like that on our system they have us leave line side load side taps off line. Only to be installed if switch needs to be utilized
That's not a bad idea ! They sit there idle for so long ...
next giveaway should be "how many stickers in aerons cab" đđ
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Those porcelain cutouts have a bad reputation for cracking--especially with lots of freeze-thaw cycles like in Canada. We actually had a program to replace a bunch of these in our system
3 phase....one leg out, no problem....you still have 2 left....here in my neighborhood, we got 16KV SWER....no spares on that..!
Heroes to become lineman, im also lineman here in Philippines,
Awesome video man! You put a lot of helpful information out there for people new in the trade to pick up on...đđ» those porcelain c/o are money makers everyone it rains...
Thanks for the great feedback!
Ya those cutouts definitely put a few meals on the table
9:47. âWell thereâs your problemâ
Itâs the Christmas lines.
when the phone rings at 2 am you anserew it
I like my tags on the disc if at all possible. That way some knuckle head running trouble doesn't come to the wrong disc and start farting around. Had a few guys closing in the wrong switches...âŠ. I also talk slow and clear when talking to dispatcher. We recently had a case where crew and disp weren't listening to each other and closed in some 34 kv on another crew.
Great habits and words of advice! Complacency is definitely a huge factor in switching errors! We must always be sure to pay attention to what is being said, and taking the time to speak slowly definitely reduces the chance of any errors, thanks for the reminder!
As per our procedures, we tag the ID numbers on the pole we must also remove the door/lead and/or lock the device open. Closing in a device without checking the ID tag or receiving proper authority would very unprofessional and good way to not only lose your job, but to injure one of your brothers.... I've have seen other methods while on storm where crews tag the switch directly, Which I agree is an excellent practice!
Yeah being on call is tough , I've done it in a different trade but yeah sometimes the caller doesn't give you 10 seconds to wake up . So in Canada it seems like they don't use the term medium voltage? , normally for distribution lines , high voltage is for transmission lines.
Hi! We đšđŠ have 3 "voltage classifications": 0-30V Extra Low, 31-750 Low, 751+ is High Voltage
The rain and snow is what kept me from being a lineman. I'd rather stay warm and dry and only deal with 480 vac and 650vdc.
Most people don't know the OCR is the reason your lights flash a couple times before the power goes out. It's trying to burn a limb off the line.
We worked an ice storm in Michigan and I remember we had all the outages taken care of. Then the ice melted and knocked everything back out đ.
I'm curious as to why the feed on the other side of that NO didn't trip out when it arced over... I would have expected both sides to blow on a phase to phase short like that...
It totally should have!
Hey there I recently applied for the Hydro one lineman apprenticeship. Though I have experience working with cars, as well as being a supervisor and a manager at my job, I've thought about switching careers, what I can say is my marks in school weren't the best, do you think I'd stand a good chance at getting a job there? Nothing in life is given but I'm not sure how difficult it is getting my foot in the door and I know there's more qualified people than me for that matter. But just wanted your thoughts or opinion. Toronto Ontario here!
Another great video, i was wondering how long after you refused the cutout did you find the problem with the other cutout that was cracked. I hope you are mentoring someone cause you are excellent at your job.There is no substitute for experience and the knowledge that you have
Wow that means a lot Joe ! Thanks so much ! I try and get apprentices with me whenever I can , and usually get 1 week sessions with them at a time.
I had actually drove past that switch and looked at it with binoculars and saw nothing. I then carried on to a house about 20 min further down the road to hook them back up . It was on the way home almost an hour later that I saw the flash in the sky near where the switch was. I caught those 3 flashes soon after , and just as I pulled away there was one helluva Major cross phase that I didn't capture that blew the fuse again !
Thanks again for the awesome feedback ! đđ
@@Bobsdecline your welcome well deserved atta boy I thought dang if he got back home and then got called back out that would be awfull
@@jgroves55 lol It almost came to that ! Lucked out this time đ
Me thinking it'll be cool to see the process of using the thermal camera to find issues
*Very next shot shows arcing*
Well that couldn't be more obvious.
What are all of those stickers on your truck?
Sir can i request a video to you. How to install hasting fuse claw to telescopic? I'm a line man too from philippines sir. Please and thank you sir godbless.
I'll see what I can do!
Do you guys get rest time on every call out after 11 p.m.? I surely donât miss being on call anymore. I never really slept well being on call.
The nomenclature on our poles are in reflective orange with black letters that say âNo Live Tieâ. Both sides are off the line. That would be considered a trap to out of town crews.
Unfortunately we don't đ. We have a set of complicated guidelines as to when we get rest time . A call like the one in this video didn't qualify for extra rest. We have to hit 5 hours work between 11pm and 8 am or have uninterrupted sleep of less then 4 hours . It's certainly tough sometimes , but our management is pretty good with using common sense if a crew is tired but didn't qualify for time off.
Your actually the second person to mention not having the leads tapped on . That's a good idea! We leave the door out and fasten it to the pole . All of our new signage is bright yellow , the one on this pole is an artifact lol !
Thanks for the comments/info ! đ
Nice work đdo you still use the porcelain cutouts.? We had the same problem where I work . They burnt off a lot of poles ,and still do since there a lot to change out , but have since moved to the poly cutouts , and they seem to be holding up good .
We switched to poly also quite a few years ago . We did a full change out program for a know bad batch , and got most of them off any major equipment. So far the polys are holding up good Had a few track and fail, but I would say less then 1%
A friend posted a photo of a pole with a sign reading "CAUTION DOES NOT PHASE." Any idea what that's about?
A 3 phase circuit can be tied together with a completely different 3 phase circuit to accomplish switching feeds around without an interruption to the customers.
Before they are tied together you must ensure they will "phase together". They would have the same phases angle. This would require a much longer explanation, so in short. They are comparable .. let's call it . A-A, B-B, C-C . When the system is physically built, it's ensures that the A wires matchup to the same switch.
On single phase lines sometime an "A" phase will encounter a "B" phase on an open switch.
They will not phase. If you close the switch it will arc and trip the line.
There is still a purpose to the switch however. If the power is completely out, sometimes you can close the switch at the point to restore power to a few customers as a damaged part of the line is isolated.
Hope that explanation wasn't horribly confusing
You're a fucking beast.
When the cutout fuse blows is that fuse dead and need replacing or is it a resettable fuse?
You have to refuse the door, it isn't reusable once it blows.
So I'm pretty confused by this. That cut out should have been pulled, because it was fed from two different substations?
What do you set your reclosures to 3 trips???
Yessir! Unless it's a high current trip. We also have a few kept at 1 shot for various reasons
This was an older video, so don't know if you'll see this comment - if not maybe another lineman could answer some time?
Is there a hazard created working in heavy rain like that of 7KV making its way along wet gloves and clothes, or even your stick if somehow the line became energised by mistake? Apologies if I'm FOS with this!
Disclaimer: I'm not a lineman but I know they ground lines before working on them (ie short the line to ensure it cannot become energized.)
greeting lineman from malaysia
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Are you a contractor or a utility worker?
Not many people appreciate people like us, they just think everything is just because they want it, lol.
300 poles? does it tap on to a three phase line.because if it does that has to be like 10 or 15 kv because thats a long stretch of line. work safe dudeđ
Looking for clarification on the dual-feed interconnection. Is it true that two different substations can not feed one line together? As I am thinking of two different substation transformer outputs and line loading/balancing would be an issue (considering the tie-in phase is the same). Obviously out of phase is not compatible. I have enjoyed your videos of the industry. I would like to see a bit about distribution stability equipment such as voltage regulators and capacitors.
Two different substations can feed one line at the same time actually ! Like you said first step is to ensure that they phase in together, which can be verified using phasing sticks (high voltage voltmeter in a nutshell) . It's likely that there would be a small difference in potential between the two that will self regulate as soon as they are tied. Doing this however with single phase lines can mess with the balanced load out of a sub , so loading will also have to be taken into consideration. I would say doing this is not normal practice, but is definitely possible. We tied substations together all the time with three phase switches tho! Sometimes actually shutting off the tap changer during this process is required, along with load checks and a quick capabilities check.
I'll see what I can come up with for more info on capitors/regulators and other more advanced devices on our lines !
Thanks for the awesome question!
I should also note that when two substations are tied it's always on for a brief time in order to accomplish switching without causing a power interruption đ
@@Bobsdecline Thank you for the reply. Well informed.
So if you get called out do you get to go home and sleep again or do you have to be right back at work the next day?
There's a ton of rules around this stuff. That night I had to work my regular shift the next day. We need a minum of 4 hours sleep.
If they anticipate a storm it's likely I would stay home for 8 hours in order to be ready for a full 14-16 hour shift once I go back to work
linemen make good money but how much is that?
So is it 2 different phases? or is it coming from 2 different substations?
This particular one is from two different subs but the other option is possible to come across.
Erin, lube ur home door hinges! (Lol)
That's my alarm system! Lol
do you have a patner?
I have lots of pictures, I had www.specialcamera.com website with example page. And Corona Camera Users Group on Facebook.
Knox Fr clothing is not arc rated snd not suitable for lineman. It is flash fire rated only. You need clothing certified to ASTM F1506 and tested to ASTM F 1959 to achieve an arc rating.
Love your videos. Well done
Thank you! Also, appreciate the info đ links were all removed
Just curious... why not just remove the jumpers with your shotgun and go home? Fix it later.
That's is certainly an accepted practice as well, especially in this particular situation. Had it been a busy night that would have likely been my decision. If ever a switch that is "controlled" by our dispatch system is compromised, there is a mildly inconvenient work order process. It may also require planning changes on an already very busy schedule. For that reason it is sometimes more efficient to make repairs with a readily available crew . Great observation/question . Thanks!
Bobsdecline - Lineman blogger I totally understand. I worked for a small co-op (13k meters and 1600mi line) that didnât have a complicated work order system. Also it seems your territory is huge so I should have taken that into consideration before asking. I enjoy your videos. Be safe.
@@Hero1395 I'm glad you asked actually! It was a great question, and shows observance. There are many different ways to approach the calls we respond to, and many great ideas!
Also whyâd you need 2 more guys? I wouldnât mind getting called in to change a cutout on a dead line that the serviceman already did. But what did they do, get a minimum? Thatâs a sweet call.
Since it was a normally open switch and it was connected by hotline clamps on both sides, why didn't you just use the stick to take the hotline clamps off and call it a night? Calling in the other 2 guys to change out a cutout??!! Union rules??
Really great question!
Often times I would do exactly that!
In this particular case our day time
work was extremely busy and starting to back up. The crew was readily available that night.
To have left it isolated would have created a small snowball effect of adjustments in our line diagram. As well as pass through our detailing dept, and work scheduling.
It often times ends up actually being cheaper and less time consuming to fix things up on the spot.
If however the on call crew was tied up on another job, I would not have brought a crew in from home.... we makes these decisions on a case by case basisâïž
@@Bobsdecline Still, what prevents you from changing out the switch yourself since it is just a matter of taking off the hotline clamps unfolding it from the bracket, replacing it and popping the hotline clamps back on? Why bother to putt hotline clamps on both sides if that is not an option?
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Hey bob's decline how do you do your job