Honestly Elite bows are so underated. I switched from Mathews a few years ago and never looked back. Still love Mathews bows and have nothing bad to say about them. Elite bows tune and shoot so easily it's hard to not fall in love with them.
Mathews...zero adjustability....wanna change draw length..buy a mod....wanna change let off...buy a mod....wanna fix/tune cams...buy a tophat....you kidding me!! Ancient tech......they have been past up years ago. This bows adjustability is impressive
I’ve been a Matthews guy for a very long time every year I got a new one. I finally fell off the hipe I started asking my self questions like, how can these bows with such technology not be number one seller‘s. I finally understood, Matthews is perhaps better at advertising than making bows. No disrespect to Matthews I did hat great enjoyment shooting them. But adjustability and tune ability they are a thing of the past, When it comes on doing it yourself and not relying on a bow shop.
Excellent adjustments! I like everything I’ve seen! Definitely, getting this bow! I definitely like Josh’s lead in engineering; he’s making elite a leader in hunting bows!
I don’t expect any less from elite I being shooting them for 6-7 years and just love it I try the other guys and always go back to where I feel good thank you elite for giving us a great product and thank you Lancaster archery for great review
Just saying I shot it the other night for the first time with my arrow setup now right a 500 grains and it shot 290, that's 37 feet fast than my Mathews and I fell in love with the wait the grip and it has no vibration what so ever I'm absolutely buying the new elite after Christmas
P.J.'s reviews are always thorough and excellent. I've been shooting Bowtech for years but this Omnia has my attention. I definitely need to make a road trip to Pennsylvania and check out all the new stuff they're getting in at Lancaster Archery.
I had an older elite 35. Hands down the best bow I've ever shot. I could shoot perfect bulls more consistently than any other bow I've ever had. no other bow has come close.
Being a Elite dealer I’m excited to see something new and fresh from Etite. They make quality equipment but I felt like speed was lacking and they’ve addressed that here. Great job Elite… Time to get a few Omnia’s in the shop!!
Nice review PJ like how you added about the comments from the PSE review. I will agree that all the name brand bows are shooters for sure. Like I said in the last comment it all comes down to how the person shooting it feels. Everyone is different and likes different things. And all bows fit everyone different but that don’t mean that the ones that don’t fit me are junk cause they are not
Over all the bows you feature so far. Seems like there is true technology on this bow, I will consider this next week at the bow shop. I’m a mattews guy by the way.
I’ve bought several new Mathews in the last few years, great bows. However, I still have my Elite Synergy from 2015…still my favorite bow. Only complaint with the Synergy was the speed. Definitely going to give the Omnia a look.
I hear you. Still have my Pulse and Answer. Haven’t really been impressed with anything they’ve brought out since the Answer. I’m gonna shoot this new one and see if all the hoopla is real or not.
I'm still shooting my Synergy also. My favorite bow ever, so smooth and shoot able. But yes, it's definitely slow lol. This omnia has me thinking hard about upgrading, I don't see myself ever getting rid of Synergy.
I went to shoot one a couple hours after this dropped! I’ve always been a fan of Elite bows, but shoot Obsession. The draw cycle was better than I anticipated. For how fast the bow is, it stacks up nicely. There is a drop into the back wall. It holds great. Bare bow with a biscuit it has a controlled forward thump that is not intrusive. I don’t think anyone would be disappointed with this bow. Elite has some very useful functions built into their bows. We know Matthew’s, Hoyt, and Bowtech are gonna bring the heat, it’s shaping up to be a good year! Thanks PJ for the sneak peek.
I've shot mathews for years, I wish they have cam tuning, micro let off adjustment, adjustable draw length. All these bells an whistles, a source told me mathews 2023 will still be using sw mods. So that alone doesn't excite me as much for their drop. I'm on the fence with this elite I might be trying it out.
I do add moleskin to the cable stop. Takes away the "tick". You may wanna remove the draw mods... check for any vibration with the little brass colored gear inside. Had one do it. No matter how tight you have the tightening screw. I put some wax in there by it.
I would love it if it would have been 34" ATA I am getting there Verdict Target bowl if we look at how advanced the systems have become So very amazing how adjustable they are I believe Bo Tech set it off when And when they started producing how their Kim who's left to write I have the votech recognition and I believe it is the smoothest drawing bow I've ever drawn ever Until I draw back the in line 5 prime mode I got it set up a little bit different but I'm telling you that thing holds like a rock I have the draw Set till 28 and a 1/2 and then I have the limb stop set to 28 with a big heavy rubber washer on it and I'm telling you it is beautiful
@@Rikcey You got a ass kicking bad ass bow bro. Hoyt has nothing to micro adjust cam lean besides stripping out shims and axles each adjust. Elite is the cat's ass for tweaking an adjust to cam lean. PSE has mini yokes, and Bowtech their slide track lock. Hoyt is new to the binary and is lagging in completeness. Hoyt are smoothe as silk and plenty fast, but more add on's are needed before I buy one,and i'm a Hoyt shooter. I'm sticking with my 80 pound PSE EVO EVL 32 until then. I was ready to buy the Encore last year. 33 axle, 6 brace and a 340 IBO like my Carbon Hoyt Spyder Turbo Z5 cam. 75 is the max draw weight. I put the brakes on.
looks amazing, our local shop seems to love them. I didnt need but wanted a new bow kinda bummed its so short, would have bet 34"/35" ATA and up to a 31 inch draw. I am sure the tech will be spread around in more offerings, Im 6'3" so I might just get a Verdict in tan as a hunting bow
Excellent in depth review p.j looks like hoyt was on to something with their short stop stabilizer, That elite had to incorporate it into their bow. Definitely a nice rig.
I'm not sure why vibration at the shot is such a big factor for shooters. As a matter of fact, I think it is such a talking point by reviewers, who get it from manufacturers, and now archers are convinced they need a bow that is without shock or vibration. Mathews has eight limbs separated by a strip between each pair of limbs for the purpose of vibration elimination. Now we have a mini stabilizer to dampen at the shot. Does vibration matter? Perhaps. But to the extent that it draws attention, well, I'm not so sure. When I shoot my longbow it isn't a factor. I own multiple Mathews and Elite bows and like them all, however, I won't make a choice based on vibration when deciding on a new bow. I'd like a lighter bow without spending the money to get a carbon bow. Just thinking aloud.
Tuning has been a pain in this omnia for a alot of people even me because cables are rubbing had to shim it 2 thin shims on the left and 2 thick on the right now it's shooting perfect with no cable rubbing
302 with a 475g arrow is certainly faster than I've seen out of Elite's in the past. Still be surprised if it gets within ten fps of the 347 rating at 350/30/70, but it's definitely no slouch. I'd be interested to see what speeds the other mods produce and how the draw cycle compares.
That was a tease……we show you the actual chrono later when we talk about speed. There’s text at that shot saying we will show you the actual speed later…..
Other reviews I've seen at much as 8 and as close as 3 fps over at 350 on one review. So it's close for sure. If it's within 10 than it's not any worse than every other company.
After seeing the verdict I was ready to make a switch Unfortunately this is not the bow I will be switching to hopefully they will make a verdict in 33 34 I want the longer riser shorter limbs And I won't buy a bowl with 6" bracelet
The cams are more balanced with the tri track design, so lean isn’t "inherent” anymore. The SET tuning system adds lean to tune the bow. You can always shim the cams still.
The location of the new dampeners definitely seems like they looked over at Mathews and went “Hmmm…” I was excited to get an Elite last year-couldn’t get my hands on one. They didn’t sell great at my local shops. (Edit: the lack of sales meant the shops wouldn’t stock em) Was dead set on one til I got to shoot a V3. Ordered a V3X a couple weeks ago. I looked at the money I’d spend for an Elite, which I couldn’t get hands on until I bought it, and a V3X, which the shop had multiples of in stock…and it kinda made the choice for me. Elite needs to send shops a “demo” bow if they want folks to get hooked on anything other than the looks/advertising.
IMO they copied Hoyt more than Mathews, they even added a lower secondary stabilizer Mount with a stubby dampener just like Hoyt, the limb dampeners also
I definitely listen to the things you say and you honestly cost me a lot of money. That being said, at no point have I listened to you talk about PSE and got sold on them. You swayed my decision to pick up a Mathews and I have not regretted that ever. Now I have an Era coming soley based on your review. I should really block your videos at this point 😂
Elite just can't get away from that square 2x4 look at the end of the riser where the limbs attach! 👎🏼 They used to make some of the more handsome compounds on the market but that's been quite sometime now. 🤷🏼♂ Mathews's new bows are far better looking and would be my choice over Elite on looks alone! If I buy a new bow, I, at least, have to like the way it looks and Elite doesn't cut it!
I think elite misses the mark here. It should have been like the new target bow but in a 33 to 34 inch ata. With a more of a horizontal limbs like the new target bow. I had high hopes for this bow just to be let down by elite yet again. Elite verdict is a winner for target. Now let's get a 33 to 34 ata verdict with the speed of the omni whatever. Elite won't be getting a sale from me this year.
Dude... is it possible that they could be making other bows as well? This could just be a speed bow offereing... lots of companies offer more than one bow per year. I mean... maybe... who knows
Loved the introduction and lost interest after seeing only 70 pounds ? Why is Elite shying away from 80 pounds ? Let's go Elite,we need 80 pounds for certain hunting conditions and game animals. Great bow however. I'd sign up for 1 if it were a 80 pound option.
So just for informational purposes, the KE that I got from this 70 pound bow with the 475 grain arrow is 16 ft/lbs above what is recommended for Cape buffalo and moose. And the arrow flew 302 fps
Yeah you are 30 draw, I’m 27.5 My Hoyt Carbon is 340 ibo and 551 grain arrow is 268fps. Barely enough to blow thru a boar hog @ 70 ibs. 80 is where it’s at for short draw hunters
The video does have the chrono results. While the chrono is blurred it says "later in video" and at 13:06 in the video we show our test setup and speed result.
@@JJ79_ Because we don't want to give away the speed in the first couple seconds of the video. We want you to watch all the way to the point where we don't have it blurred.
Honestly Elite bows are so underated. I switched from Mathews a few years ago and never looked back. Still love Mathews bows and have nothing bad to say about them. Elite bows tune and shoot so easily it's hard to not fall in love with them.
Agreed. Always wanted yo try one but they only have 30"draw. I need 32"
Mathews...zero adjustability....wanna change draw length..buy a mod....wanna change let off...buy a mod....wanna fix/tune cams...buy a tophat....you kidding me!! Ancient tech......they have been past up years ago. This bows adjustability is impressive
I like elite bows but I love the draw on my old pse carbon air stealth
I’ve been a Matthews guy for a very long time every year I got a new one. I finally fell off the hipe I started asking my self questions like, how can these bows with such technology not be number one seller‘s. I finally understood, Matthews is perhaps better at advertising than making bows. No disrespect to Matthews I did hat great enjoyment shooting them. But adjustability and tune ability they are a thing of the past, When it comes on doing it yourself and not relying on a bow shop.
Excellent adjustments! I like everything I’ve seen! Definitely, getting this bow! I definitely like Josh’s lead in engineering; he’s making elite a leader in hunting bows!
I don’t expect any less from elite I being shooting them for 6-7 years and just love it I try the other guys and always go back to where I feel good thank you elite for giving us a great product and thank you Lancaster archery for great review
Love my Elite Remedy!!!!
Just saying I shot it the other night for the first time with my arrow setup now right a 500 grains and it shot 290, that's 37 feet fast than my Mathews and I fell in love with the wait the grip and it has no vibration what so ever I'm absolutely buying the new elite after Christmas
P.J.'s reviews are always thorough and excellent. I've been shooting Bowtech for years but this Omnia has my attention. I definitely need to make a road trip to Pennsylvania and check out all the new stuff they're getting in at Lancaster Archery.
I shoot BOWTECH to but this bow is sweet
I had an older elite 35. Hands down the best bow I've ever shot. I could shoot perfect bulls more consistently than any other bow I've ever had. no other bow has come close.
Bow of the year! I think Elite hit a home run on this one.
Being a Elite dealer I’m excited to see something new and fresh from Etite. They make quality equipment but I felt like speed was lacking and they’ve addressed that here. Great job Elite… Time to get a few Omnia’s in the shop!!
What real world speeds are you seeing out of it?
@@davemartin660 71lbs 27” draw 455 grain arrow 288fps
@@douglyons8841 Have you by any chance chronoed that same arrow at 27" or 27.5" draw but at 60 lbs.?
@@jameshaynes602 I have not.. I can say it’s surprisingly fast and extremely dead in hand after the shot. Elite did they’re homework on this bow.
@@douglyons8841 Thanks for the input!
Nice review PJ like how you added about the comments from the PSE review. I will agree that all the name brand bows are shooters for sure. Like I said in the last comment it all comes down to how the person shooting it feels. Everyone is different and likes different things. And all bows fit everyone different but that don’t mean that the ones that don’t fit me are junk cause they are not
Over all the bows you feature so far. Seems like there is true technology on this bow, I will consider this next week at the bow shop.
I’m a mattews guy by the way.
Thanks PJ. Always a pleasure.
I’ve bought several new Mathews in the last few years, great bows. However, I still have my Elite Synergy from 2015…still my favorite bow. Only complaint with the Synergy was the speed. Definitely going to give the Omnia a look.
I hear you. Still have my Pulse and Answer. Haven’t really been impressed with anything they’ve brought out since the Answer. I’m gonna shoot this new one and see if all the hoopla is real or not.
I'm still shooting my Synergy also. My favorite bow ever, so smooth and shoot able. But yes, it's definitely slow lol. This omnia has me thinking hard about upgrading, I don't see myself ever getting rid of Synergy.
I went to shoot one a couple hours after this dropped! I’ve always been a fan of Elite bows, but shoot Obsession. The draw cycle was better than I anticipated. For how fast the bow is, it stacks up nicely. There is a drop into the back wall. It holds great. Bare bow with a biscuit it has a controlled forward thump that is not intrusive. I don’t think anyone would be disappointed with this bow. Elite has some very useful functions built into their bows. We know Matthew’s, Hoyt, and Bowtech are gonna bring the heat, it’s shaping up to be a good year! Thanks PJ for the sneak peek.
I've shot mathews for years, I wish they have cam tuning, micro let off adjustment, adjustable draw length. All these bells an whistles, a source told me mathews 2023 will still be using sw mods. So that alone doesn't excite me as much for their drop. I'm on the fence with this elite I might be trying it out.
I do add moleskin to the cable stop. Takes away the "tick".
You may wanna remove the draw mods... check for any vibration with the little brass colored gear inside.
Had one do it. No matter how tight you have the tightening screw. I put some wax in there by it.
I do put the stock limb saver inside the limb pocket. Than BowJax in replacement.
Ordered and waiting.
I would love it if it would have been 34" ATA I am getting there Verdict Target bowl if we look at how advanced the systems have become So very amazing how adjustable they are I believe Bo Tech set it off when And when they started producing how their Kim who's left to write I have the votech recognition and I believe it is the smoothest drawing bow I've ever drawn ever Until I draw back the in line 5 prime mode I got it set up a little bit different but I'm telling you that thing holds like a rock I have the draw Set till 28 and a 1/2 and then I have the limb stop set to 28 with a big heavy rubber washer on it and I'm telling you it is beautiful
To many moving parts to many things to go wrong Imo
@@jasonnester9514 agreed
Truly hope they will come out with a new 34"
I'm still waiting for a new bow to be a tangible upgrade from my Hoyt Nitrum 34.
With the Z5 cam ? You might be waiting forever.
@@michaelrosa5410 is it still in such high regard?
@@Rikcey You got a ass kicking bad ass bow bro. Hoyt has nothing to micro adjust cam lean besides stripping out shims and axles each adjust. Elite is the cat's ass for tweaking an adjust to cam lean. PSE has mini yokes, and Bowtech their slide track lock. Hoyt is new to the binary and is lagging in completeness. Hoyt are smoothe as silk and plenty fast, but more add on's are needed before I buy one,and i'm a Hoyt shooter. I'm sticking with my 80 pound PSE EVO EVL 32 until then. I was ready to buy the Encore last year. 33 axle, 6 brace and a 340 IBO like my Carbon Hoyt Spyder Turbo Z5 cam. 75 is the max draw weight. I put the brakes on.
That's a great bow
A Very Good Quality Product
Very nice
Shot one today , probably going to get one
looks amazing, our local shop seems to love them. I didnt need but wanted a new bow kinda bummed its so short, would have bet 34"/35" ATA and up to a 31 inch draw. I am sure the tech will be spread around in more offerings, Im 6'3" so I might just get a Verdict in tan as a hunting bow
Great vide thanks for sharing
Finally 1/4” adjustments
Been on every elite flagship bow since 2020
@@mikeguy9668 well hell I been asleep at the wheel then lol
@@jasonnester9514 happens to the best of us
Something with that much adjustment what happens when those lock down come loose then all your adjustment go wonky
I like the specs. Would like to shoot it beside my Enkore through the chrono. On the list to shoot!
Excellent in depth review p.j looks like hoyt was on to something with their short stop stabilizer, That elite had to incorporate it into their bow. Definitely a nice rig.
Looks great! I hate they did away with the 75 & 80lb options.
Always forgetting about the long draw guy. Very nice bow though
I'm not sure why vibration at the shot is such a big factor for shooters. As a matter of fact, I think it is such a talking point by reviewers, who get it from manufacturers, and now archers are convinced they need a bow that is without shock or vibration. Mathews has eight limbs separated by a strip between each pair of limbs for the purpose of vibration elimination. Now we have a mini stabilizer to dampen at the shot. Does vibration matter? Perhaps. But to the extent that it draws attention, well, I'm not so sure. When I shoot my longbow it isn't a factor. I own multiple Mathews and Elite bows and like them all, however, I won't make a choice based on vibration when deciding on a new bow. I'd like a lighter bow without spending the money to get a carbon bow. Just thinking aloud.
Omg that one arrow sounded like a bullet wizzing by. Reminds me of my time in Iraq, fun times 😂
The first Elite that I liked .
Is Mathews living up to their slogan? "Catch us if you can" 😂 Doesn't seem like it. Come on Mathews. Where are these features?
Great looking bow….think Elite will incorporate the picatinny sight mount on their riser?
Do any of y’all know a discount code for Lancaster archery
Wish it was 34 Ata and 7 inch brace height
Thats some solid speed with a 475gr arrow. To bad there are no Elite dealers around me, id love to shoot one.
Wouldn’t you yoke/SET tune prior to touching the rest??
Seems that Elite and Bowtech are the winners this year.
Tuning has been a pain in this omnia for a alot of people even me because cables are rubbing had to shim it 2 thin shims on the left and 2 thick on the right now it's shooting perfect with no cable rubbing
Nice review PJ , but why only to a 30” DL not to 31’5 inch DL , nice looking bow from Elite
What color is the riser on that bow?
How about cable touching the cam at the end of draw? Heard a lot about that. Would really like that bow, but wouldnt like to deal with that.
there is a video on "U" tube put out by an Australian Elite dealer that shows EXACTLY & CLEARLY how to do the simple fix for that problem
Lovin the specs
302 with a 475g arrow is certainly faster than I've seen out of Elite's in the past. Still be surprised if it gets within ten fps of the 347 rating at 350/30/70, but it's definitely no slouch. I'd be interested to see what speeds the other mods produce and how the draw cycle compares.
That was a tease……we show you the actual chrono later when we talk about speed. There’s text at that shot saying we will show you the actual speed later…..
It says “Later in the video” right at that blur
@@pjreilly3997 fair enough, I missed the text. Edited out my jaded-ness.
Chrono’d one tonight at 374 gr we got 330, really impressed
Other reviews I've seen at much as 8 and as close as 3 fps over at 350 on one review. So it's close for sure. If it's within 10 than it's not any worse than every other company.
I wish I could afford to trade in my Enkore for an Omnia
Waiting for there carbon bow that comes out December 6th.
I bought one and it's got horrible cam lean had to take it back to the shop to get fixed last bow I'll buy from elite
Of course, another bow for short draw length shooters.
Looked like the draw length was a bit too long for you at 30"
Any idea when these will be available for purchase?
We have some in our Pro Shop right now.....
After seeing the verdict I was ready to make a switch Unfortunately this is not the bow I will be switching to hopefully they will make a verdict in 33 34 I want the longer riser shorter limbs And I won't buy a bowl with 6" bracelet
Elite needs this bow in a carbon model.
I’ll stick with my Remedy until then.
This bow looks like the most stable on your hands.
Wish it came in a 31” draw length.
I need a 31 inch draw ..
Does these elites still have lean issues
The cams are more balanced with the tri track design, so lean isn’t "inherent” anymore. The SET tuning system adds lean to tune the bow. You can always shim the cams still.
@@IamJonsCranium copy
The location of the new dampeners definitely seems like they looked over at Mathews and went “Hmmm…”
I was excited to get an Elite last year-couldn’t get my hands on one. They didn’t sell great at my local shops. (Edit: the lack of sales meant the shops wouldn’t stock em) Was dead set on one til I got to shoot a V3. Ordered a V3X a couple weeks ago. I looked at the money I’d spend for an Elite, which I couldn’t get hands on until I bought it, and a V3X, which the shop had multiples of in stock…and it kinda made the choice for me. Elite needs to send shops a “demo” bow if they want folks to get hooked on anything other than the looks/advertising.
IMO they copied Hoyt more than Mathews, they even added a lower secondary stabilizer Mount with a stubby dampener just like Hoyt, the limb dampeners also
I definitely listen to the things you say and you honestly cost me a lot of money. That being said, at no point have I listened to you talk about PSE and got sold on them. You swayed my decision to pick up a Mathews and I have not regretted that ever. Now I have an Era coming soley based on your review. I should really block your videos at this point 😂
Elite just can't get away from that square 2x4 look at the end of the riser where the limbs attach! 👎🏼
They used to make some of the more handsome compounds on the market but that's been quite sometime now. 🤷🏼♂
Mathews's new bows are far better looking and would be my choice over Elite on looks alone!
If I buy a new bow, I, at least, have to like the way it looks and Elite doesn't cut it!
msrp?
1,199
Love elite design but experiences with customer service and the elite rep for my archery shop has been less than impressive.
couldn't be any worse then the service at my local Mathews dealer......went to a different shop and was pleasantly surprised at the difference..
Looks like a prime riser
I think elite misses the mark here. It should have been like the new target bow but in a 33 to 34 inch ata. With a more of a horizontal limbs like the new target bow. I had high hopes for this bow just to be let down by elite yet again. Elite verdict is a winner for target. Now let's get a 33 to 34 ata verdict with the speed of the omni whatever. Elite won't be getting a sale from me this year.
Dude... is it possible that they could be making other bows as well? This could just be a speed bow offereing... lots of companies offer more than one bow per year. I mean... maybe... who knows
No you're missing the mark 30-32 ata is what the masses want
Waiting for elite to make a yoke bow
It's name is Terrain :)
But why?
@@JJ79_ shoots better tunes better and easier
A great bow
@@jasonnester9514 for sure not. I have Bowtech deadlock system and this elite system is very close to that, cant imagine any easier way to tune a bow.
No joy for me and my 31 inch draw.
Loved the introduction and lost interest after seeing only 70 pounds ? Why is Elite shying away from 80 pounds ? Let's go Elite,we need 80 pounds for certain hunting conditions and game animals. Great bow however. I'd sign up for 1 if it were a 80 pound option.
So just for informational purposes, the KE that I got from this 70 pound bow with the 475 grain arrow is 16 ft/lbs above what is recommended for Cape buffalo and moose. And the arrow flew 302 fps
Yeah you are 30 draw, I’m 27.5
My Hoyt Carbon is 340 ibo and 551 grain arrow is 268fps. Barely enough to blow thru a boar hog @ 70 ibs. 80 is where it’s at for short draw hunters
why 80 [pounds? the Great Howard Hill said he could kill any animal in North America with a 50# bow and a sharp broad head!!
@@doughosig6798 Yep it will kill with 40 pounds too. I like DEVASTATION is why I like 80 mostly on big boar hogs. deer it don't matter. I prefer 80.
As usual, useless for us tall guys 😭
I would buy 1 if it didn't need a bow press to service it.
the cams could be a better design, more beautiful
I person with OCD will have a hay day with this bow.....omg to many adjustments...IMHO!
Blurred speed on beginning, thats not the way to appereciate your viewers. Just leave it out if you dont want show it fight away.
The video does have the chrono results. While the chrono is blurred it says "later in video" and at 13:06 in the video we show our test setup and speed result.
@@LancasterArcherySupply Sure but why to blurr it?
@@JJ79_ Because we don't want to give away the speed in the first couple seconds of the video. We want you to watch all the way to the point where we don't have it blurred.
@@LancasterArcherySupply Thats why its stuupid, but i can see youu dont get it.
Grow up!!!
If this bow was 33” and closer to a 7” brace, I might be a buyer.
Thought the same, wish it was 34". Got it anyway, couldn't be happier. String angle is the same as my old Nitrum 34.