$50,000 SAILBOATS! Part One - Ep 189 - Lady K Sailing
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Join Lady K Sailing as we search for sailboats int he $50,000 50k $50k range from Beneteau to Morgan Out Island and the lot!
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This series is great for understanding the fundamental differences at set price points. I have enjoyed every one, because I am gaining an understanding of the differences in boats. I would appreciate a continuation of this series. Thank you for taking the time and effort.
My wife just yelled from her workshop, "Tell him to get out of my head" when you were describing what people are looking for. A genuine moment of laughter, thanks, brother. Loving the series
I’m really enjoying this series. I appreciate the time and effort you put into researching what’s currently available at each price point, along with a little background on each boat builder. Thanks!
Wow! That was a picture of my Islander 36, Luna Sea, with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background, at the beginning of the video. Shocked but happy to see that!
My friend has a villa and a trimaran in the Caribbean called Luna Sea!
You said "Beneteau"!!! Gather the militia!!! Man the barricades!!! 🙂
Dude, your guidance here is amazing. At this price point choices must be made and you do an amazing job of calling that out.
That said....I'm waiting until you get to talking about multi-hulls as an option at a future price point....
You make every boat sound desirable. Good job for that.
I think most of us idealize certain features and characteristics over the reality of what we actually use and need.
Hunter is popular for this reason. Reasonably cheap, tone of space for lounging, yet still a capable cruiser.
By the end of the year I will be cruising the Caribbean for a few years. Being at anchor is how 90% of my time will be spend. And that’s were the boat needs to shine.
Passage making will rarely be more than 3 days. Pick a good weather window and it’ll be fine.
Add as many parts as needed. Pretty sure I’m not the only looking forward to the next video. Here’s hoping you go all the way to $100k. Thank you for your time and effort! Going to get out there!
J-Boats engineer question? Love your show chap. In the early 80's I was an engineer for J-Boats. We purchased the Morgan 454 design and mold. If you look at a J-Boats 46' to Morgan 454, you cannot tell the difference. Keep up the good work chap.
I absolutely love your series! Because of you I am now a 1983 Hunter 33 owner! I really love this sailboat ❤ I am really looking for my weekend trips to the Texas Coast line. Let the Hunter haters hate bro, these boats are great on the water! ❤
Loving the series. And other people are saying what I’m thinking. Keep it up bud
Great video Tim.
My 1995 HUNTER LEGEND 40.5 is a beauty! Yep! A sailing goddess! Sorry Hunter haters! LOL!
Thanks again!
After watching the last few episodes, I'm drooling for one of these lovely "someday" boats. Are you going to do a $10,000 Sailboats episode? The search continues.
Thank you man love your videos ,may your hearts desires be fulfilled and may you contain happiness every moment of your life.
I just had my bid on a boat accepted, but I also looked at that $25k Newport 41 that Tim highlighted a couple of weeks ago. The only reason I didn't buy the Newport is I just didn't want to do all the fixing up, I'm not interested in racing. A couple of younger people buying that boat are going to get a terrific boat, spend more money on sandpaper and varnish than on beer - and never regret it.
Here's a question, using Beneteaus as the test case. I've looked at listings for Beneteau 39/40s from 1989 ($50k), 2000($75k), 2017 ($142k) and new ($220k). To me these prices suggest that that the older boats must be like old clunker cars, always breaking down, always in the shop, almost ready for the junk yard.
However, Looking at actual older boats... What I see are boats that need some work - most notably cosmetic, but could be engines, rigging, etc... updating the electronics, etc.... But I'd guess that the 1988 Beneteau for $50k with $10k in upgrades would be be about the same boat as a much newer one. Maybe not as shiny and with smaller glass in the ports, but not much that couldn't be brought up to date. (I learned about boat stink - it's just water in the bilges, maybe old cushions and mattresses. Clean it all out really good, install a couple of DryBilge pumps and stinky is gone.)
(I think my idea is basically sound, but I don't know enough to be able to really make this argument to people who do know.)
I had thought looking at older boats I'd find rotting unsound hulls, rudders about to fall off, smoking, grunting diesels -- instead I just find older boats that are in pretty good shape, need a few things with no end of life in sight. I've yet to hear a diesel engine that didn't sound like every other diesel engine I've ever heard. (Of course limited experience). A video I'd like to see is What it would take and cost to bring one of these older boats from these various years up to a similar standard, and what pluses the newer and new boats would have over 'the standard.'
A big part of this I think maybe when boats moved away from balsa cores. Any crack that allows water to reach wood leads to rot, swelling and delamination. No balsa core and it might last forever.
This is a great series for us. Will you continue to 100K? It would be great if you do. If it's a bit to much maybe a 25K increase would fit better. Whatever you do thank you very much for this series ✌️
i agree with you! I am new to sailing and I want boats that won't scare the wife, will allow me to invite guests and get my brother addicted, which means it needs to be able to be single-handed so two older dudes can learn. I think that means I need to spend a little more money.
Thanks Tim. I'll be sure to see part two.
Love the $50k series. How about a Tartan 37 centerboard, say in the mid 1970's, in good shape?
Great series. I'm an older guy with NO Sailing experience, so I'm going to be looking for an old Trawler to move onto Full-time when the time comes. I wish someone would do a similar series on affordable Trawlers. Keep up the Great Content and Stay Safe ‼️🙂
Can’t wait to get my first bout. These videos are so important!!!
I see the theme here with $10k increments. Can't wait for $80-90k 3 cabins and 2 heads video.
Really enjoy your videos. Great job!
Most informative, thanks so much!
Great video. Thank you very much!
.. Cheers to you. ..
Your content is great. Thank you.
I'd like a Catalina 36 or 42 MK2 without the Catalina $$$ and a slightly shallower draft. The interior layout and swim platform are strong selling points for me. The 6 foot draft, I can live with. This is a great series btw... 👍👍😎
Jen Sun Oddesy seems to fit the bill for a little less $$$
GREAT SERIES
Love my '93 - Hunter Legend 37.5 - Fast and lots of space
I friggin love this..."Fifty Thousand Dollars"🙃
Thanks for making these, if you want an idea for another info video. What do we do with a cruising boat for cheap storage? I.e. dry dock repairs/storage, cheap in water storage locations - what does is all cost, where are the main spots
awesome!
Hello Tim! I wondering why you never talked about Pearson Yachts before? I believe they are very solid Blue water sailboats that people should know more about. Thank you!
We’ve watched a lot of your videos… and I just KNEW you’d mention Gulfstar in this one. I agree that there were some earlier boats from GS that were of shotty quality. We have an 81 44cc and it’s an amazing vessel. And there have been plenty under 50k (ours for instance) but maybe we just make that our little secret 😉
Finally my price point and I am currently looking so thanks for the help
I hope the first has the automatic keel release in heavy weather.
So far I like the Hunter ,then the bentiou
You will start to get some nice boats when you get to the $150K boats and then some really nice boats for $250K. My dream boat is in the $250K range - Hinckley SW48 although I could live with a Bermuda 40.
I think you should continue on with this series clear up to a million.
yeah!
Good Job Lady K. FYI all the 40K boats are now 50K boats since this video was released. I think 2 hours ago. I was looking at Catalina 320 for 40K in the beginning of the season now these are 55k to above 60K. this may be just this particular model. I'm limited by draft, not boat length. my "hard" budget is 50k
Do a 4k one!
My Pearson 23 would be top of the list. ♥⛵
Nice video! We just uploaded for the first time in a while due to being tangled up in boat projects - you know how it goes. Fair winds!
In the 1970s Hunter 25s had a reputation of the keels falling off, much to the detriment of windward performance.
Seems I remember an Irwin 37 center cockpit back in the day.
The Morgan OI 41s were built for the Caribbean charter trade and there were a lot of them. The looks were created by the comon practice of taking an older hull design, with lowish headroom and making a new deck that raised the headroom but gave it the odd look of the rubrail on the hull where the deck/hull joint that was a look you had to get used to, or not.
It is apparently very hard to make a roomy boat under fourty feet that does not look like a "clorox bottle".
Just picked up a Prout Snowgoose 37 Cat for $31,000 but I love the Morgan 41
Do you know the Wildings Sailing channel ⛵🇬🇧 they have a vintage Comanche ketch rigged cat. they found in a French boat yard...last year.
Sounds like a great deal.
I like this price point for boats. Thanks for the series from 20K - 50K. Question, do these smaller boats have AC?
I am going to give you some flak. I don't know for what because I really enjoy all of your videos. Your videos are great for setting expectations. Watching the OReillys look for their boat is sort of discouraging. There's a bunch of bad sellers out there.
A trick I was told a long time ago by a legend Captain. " if your looking for a good used boat? Make sure she keeps the motor clean"
Despite being a motor boater I thoroughly enjoy your channel, I have been following for several years and find it interesting, informative, entertaining and well presented. At some time would you consider explaining sail names and uses, main and jib may be obvious but what is a screecher and why is it called that, code zero? Thanks for all your hard work .Bob.
Have you ever heard of a Venus 46 ketch and any information on it's history?
Those 2 Hunters are nice.
Worst sailing boat I ever had was a Hunter. A bathtub with a mast. Never again.
Geography likely plays a role in what you can buy and for how much. Prices in southern CA for the boats you are finding (if they even could be found here) would likely be significantly higher. Perhaps you want to reveal the location of the boats you’re finding to put the prices in perspective.
Hunter boats are at minimum standards as far as build quality and parts. Hopefully the legends are better built.
Už zase kupuju loď?! Von tam zase má kartářku :D
NOT O.C.D.! Its CDO when you put the letters in order!
Good stuff Timber! I could watch your boat videos for hours. I'm currently in the market (isn't all sailors always looking) for my next one and it is in that 50k market.
What website do you suggest I spend time on?
If I am going older, I am going Elan or Grand Soleil. You know the builds are well done and even 40 years on, the workmanship still shows through over Hunter or other boats in these periods. These would be wonderful boats but would run a bit deep. If you want something less deep, a Southerly 115 would be perfect but you will probably have to sail it back from the EU yourself.
All great boats but rarer than hens teeth in North America!! Personally I love the Solutherly's with their lifting keels!
@@pierremitham2964 That is very true, 10 to 1 you are getting on a plane to bring it back which is a scary contention. A grand soleil 50 of any year, a 90's Elan 431 are still boats I would be happy to retire on in the Caribbean. The Southerlys again just didn't have bad years of production quality so pick what you can afford. But we were talking about 50k and those boats can be had in europe still in great shape for 50k. I'd almost certainly spend a month sailing around england in an extended test of her rigging, sails and systems before making the crossing.
How high do you have to go before you get to Island Packets? That's what I'm interested in.
I remember sailing past a Morgan OI 41 - - - in my sunfish - - - lol. Honestly it would be nice if you could add a little performance to the criteria
Many boats are build for a certian environment. It can get windy in some parts of the Caribbean so less sail area was not a problem. Yep Sunfish are fast but hard to cook and sleep on, and you partner/crew need to be on the small n' light side.
Hi really like your content have ever considered a trimaran?
Just wondering. I new but love trimarans. Or are you monos only?
I’ve heard the earlier Gulfstar hulls were made with chopper gun construction rather than hand-laid glass cloth, but that later ones were hand-laid. Anybody know when Gulfstar stopped using the chopper gun?
Do you have any thoughts as to going through a broker vs freelancing?
I have a question, I have seen many people "Sailing the world" on youtube, however, Nobody discusses the license requirements to travel. I can get a "Harbor" or a "Coastal" license wnere I live, But... What kind of license is required to travel across an ocean and where do you get it ???? I have read about a "European" and an "American" license, so which one works around the world ??? Thanks to anyone who has this info. 😉
So I ah e sales the Morgan with shoal draft and we used to own a Whitby 42 which a lengthened mast sailed much better
I sailed
What do you recommend for Canadian $250,000?
60k next?
Just spend a hundred grand and get it over with 🤣
Personally, I love the Hunter designs and Legend performance. However, performance and Morgan are not something that frequently goes together.
I guess 100k next?
I think the reason people hate Hunters (and similar concepts) is because there are so many of them, it loses a special quality (uniqueness).
I'm looking to buy a boat from $50,000 to 80 I wish you can help me this is the most crazy thing I ever done🤣😁😄lol
$50,000 not that much when compared to a medium price car. I prefer to drive a cheap old car and have a larger sailboat!
5 years ago had chance to purchase a mid 90's Privilege 39 for Mid $50Ks in SW Fl. Didn't go ahead with it however. Catamarans are getting more popular all the time but do seem to be mostly above your price points. If you do start getting into higher price ranges, please see if you can include cats.
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If you had 50k you'd buy a Hunter but with only 30k you'd buy a C&C? Hmmm...