How Did We Turn Worship Into Singing | Tim Dilena
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- In "How Did We Turn Worship Into Singing?", Pastor Tim Dilena emphasizes that true worship is not a passive act but a persistent, complete, and sacrificial obedience to God, urging believers to let go of comfort and personal desires in order to truly worship in spirit and truth.
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November 26, 2023 - Tim Dilena - Times Square Church
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I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter and a new identity... A child of God.. Hallelujah💔💔💔
Amen! Hallelujah 🎉
You complaining about the music not being disappointed? And yet, at the most powerful part of the message. You got the music loud while you'making the most powerful point. You can plain about the LED and the giant television screens. Yet there you are, preaching in front of a congregation with a giant television screen. Your message, though true, is also quite hypocritical I'm looking and hearing. N, Ic it's not the message you're preaching. You wanted to preach this message with power. Should've told the piano playing to stop playing. And you should've turned off the giant screen.
SO HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. HALLELUYAH!
❤🙌🏻
@@stavros333Such is the response of someone who does not truly understand the point. Christ does not look at the LED, the music, the production or anything. It is only the heart of the worshipper. What he’s trying to say is that we should not be obsessed and too focused on production. Simply have production himself doesn’t make him a hypocrite because his message wasn’t that we should take away all the productions. True worship is in spirit and in truth. No instrument, just prayer and our voice - that’s okay. Tons of instrument- that’s okay. Lighting, smokes, LED- that’s okay. So long as we’re not distracted and obsessed with a show and our heart is truly in worshiping Christ.
Also there’s no reason to go around (almost like you’re angry) and spreading negative comments. We should be communicating with love, ESPECIALLY to our very own brothers and sisters in Christ. It’s good to call each other out on our hypocrisy but there’s no reason to do it in anger and in hate. May God bless you
This song is SO TIMELY for my family and I! My 13 year old sister has cancer, and Sunday I had gotten a call from my parents asking to gather all of my siblings to come and say our goodbyes… We prayed, we asked for a miracle, and here we are 5 days later and my sister has made a MIRACULOUS recovery and doctors are in AWE!
Hallelujah 🙌🏼 glory to our Lord Jesus Christ 🙌🏼
Praise the Lord Jesus, what a beautiful gift! 🙌❤🙏
Glory to Father in Heaven. Thank you sweet Jesus.. Wow amazing testimony. So relieved to hear.. Even in thr hard times we will worship our Father and trust in His peefect will for us. ❤ God bless your little sister and I speak Gods divine healing over her entire body, in Jesus mighty name amen.
Awesome!!! Praise the Lord!!
Thank you for this wonderful testimony. SO happy for your family. It gives us all hope!
I have been questioning for many years as to why there are stages in a church; why do we need to elevate the choir and the minister. Why not just a pulpit for the Word of God to be preached from the minister, pastor, etc. ? Why drum sets and guitars and giant speakers on a stage and bowls of ear plugs on tables in the foyers? Why the need for laser lights and smoke machines? When did a church service become a rock concert and why do we feel the need to be entertained instead of being given food for thought through the Word of God being preached reverently and solemnly? Why is there a book store on the premise or in the foyer selling jewelry, toys, snacks, Bibles, books by "Christian" authors and even by their own minister.? Why is there a coffee shop with donuts, breakfasts and sandwiches being sold in the foyer? Why do people feel freely the okay to eat and drink these items during church service?
In His Father's temple, Jesus pushed over tables that had wares, animals, and doves being sold for sacrifices; not outside the walls of the temple but inside the very temple. The place where worship to His Father was taking place. Jesus found this sacrilegious and became very angry, only one of the few times in HIs life He showed anger. Why do our people who call themselves Christians show so very little respect or modesty to our Father in Heaven in their dress and demeanor while attending church service? I see people wearing shorts and tank tops to services; jeans, flip flops, men wearing hats on their heads, short skirts, tight clothings, cleavage showing, why?
One last thing....why do ministers feel they have to entertain their parishioners with jokes to gain and keep their "audience" during worship service? Getting people on the right path to the Lord is serious work. My opinion.
I have often wondered the same things as you have said. And. Why the need for the speakers to be turned on so loudly, that I, even I, have to take my hearing aids out so that the ears are not hurt and my hearing become worse. Even then. I sometimes have to put my hands over my ears to keep from being blasted. The laser lights, etc. result in my feeling like I am at a rock concert. I could say more, but I will stop.
Look at pastor gino jennings and you Will find a real church.
Music became worship when we stopped wanting to hear the truth, and wanted to be entertained.
So true.
PREACH PREACH 😅
The Law of First Use or First Mention is like the cornerstone of the building. Worship is used in unexpected place in scripture.
Abraham
Isaac
Genesis 22 story is first where worship was first mentioned
Worship has gone the wrong way. Worship is also serving, praying, fasting, sharing, giving, reading God’s word, talking up your cross, laying the most important thing to you at His feet, renewing your mind, etc. Good message and thanks for sharing.
Amen!
Maybe churches should change the title "Worship team" to just Music/praise team. I think that would make more sense biblically because everything can be worship to God, it's not just a title for talented singers and musicians 🤔
worship is to allow GOD to DESCIDE IN CHRIST
Woship is life, ( He created us for that reason "no worship no life") seeking, (Col 3:2) Intimacy ....
I'm giving it all to Jesus. I Surrender All
God is my Father, Jesus is my Savior. Holy Spirit is my guife
I've been saying this for several years now. I'm a musician and I love music but it's become a idol in the church.
I've said this for decades. We are also to teach for free.
Not make money off it. Tithes are to be spent in certain ways, Biblically. Most of it today goes into their pockets. Not doing as should with it. They take way to many vacations around the world. Planes. Cars. Fancy clothes. Million dollar homes. So on...
It is to cover their bills, house, clothing, 😢 food, church building, elderly, poor, not all this extravagant stuff. . . They should be living no fifteenth than the average church. Not getting rich of tithes.
@@StillYHWHs I personally don't think tithing is biblical I think it's another way to gather money. Granted we should support the the body and we should do it joyfully.
@lovingjesus5184 some of us were convicted to tithe. Plus I've heard too many testimonies from friends who didn't tithe, then did, and their lives changed significantly. It's hard to not see Tithing is right. But it's nice to pamper our flesh with that 10%.
@@lovingjesus5184Tithing is biblical Malachi 3:8-10
@@firewoodtime2 you didn't hear what I said🤷♀️
I am so grieved that worship leaders are so performance oriented!!! My heart is for true worship! Praying God restores worship!!!! Love this message Pastor Tim!
way back we had what was dubbed christain aerobics as the "worship" team did all these strange moves. I don't NEED to be entertained at church...so I don't go anymore, too many solo's for the choir to spotlight talents, and the band has their little rifts to insert. whatever NOT my thing at all and for me doesn't point the focus on my saviour
Worship has little to do with who leads it but the attitude of our hearts when we enter into it. (Rom 12:1)
So king David was wrong?
Yes❤
There are too many personal pronouns in our corporate worship today. There "IS" a place for that within our personal time with God. It's about HIM not us.
I always kinda felt there was something wrong with alot of contemporary Christian music and now we're seeing many beloved artist go the way of the world. I don't see Jesus anywhere in the Bible teaching his disciples to go out and have concerts and raise money to go out and have more concerts so maybe, just maybe you'll get a dove award. Things have gone terribly wrong. Pray to not be deceived in these last days.
You don't find preaching like this in America's churches today. Preach it, Pastor!
Wow, I love his manipulation and contradiction to the stage. The lighting the giant television screen behind his head and the music in half of the sermon. Such a distraction one thing. I can say. You really sold this lie like a fairecy in the book of Matthew telling people to do what you do not do. And no doubt you needed to teach this lesson to get them to loose their bank account in their money. To put into that offer that you about to raise.
I come out this kind of church. Amen....❤
@@stavros333 you can start over anytime you want....AND MAKE SENSE!!! WOW.
Actually you find it in a lot of them. Don't confuse you not knowing who they are with it's not being done.
@@marckemp9955 You lie. I've been in enough and I've seen enough here on YT to know what I say is TRUTH. You might have your head in the sand about the Great Falling Away we are experiencing right now...BUT I DON'T.
Good Word. Worship has become entertainment in western churches.
Very good message but the sad point is, is that at the end they went back to the same kind of worship. Microphones amps guitars and a worship team. That is being a hypocrite, so sad. Read 1 corinthians 14 on how a fellowship gathering is to be moved and led by the HOLY SPIRIT.
@@kerussonikao2812 amen
@@kerussonikao2812worship service is a Solemnity of our lord's suffering, death n RESSURECTION it's a sad story of death but the rising from the grave is a joyous event , this is a Holy event in every true Christian lefe but today's churches have made a circus out of their churches, the people are like animals n maniacs in some , others are laughing dancing clapping n hysterical, some are thrown down as if like bricks , no one is is in controll of themselves it's the evil spirit taking controll of them
@@kerussonikao2812 You missed the message. Those mics and guitars and the songs we sing from our hearts to the Lord are still worship. This is not an attack on worship songs. Guitar or no guitar is not what counts. It is the anointing. Are people just going though the motions or are they singing the love in their hearts. When we gather and sing in his name he sings back over us. Singing is a huge important part of worship. It is that expression of love that causes us to obey the lord in all other areas. He said he did not need to teach on sexual immorality over the women who was living in sin. He woudl have needed to preach on worship he said. It is about the love. Matthew 22 34 to 40 explains. It is the greatest commandment. It is about worshipping the Lord first with our hearts so we can be anointed to worship with our soul and finally our minds once the other 2 are made right. We can not love others as Jesus loves them without Jesus in us. Jesus said if we love him we will obey him. He said if we obey him he will manifest himself into us in John 14. We need to keep the worship songs but make sure they are love songs to God and that it is not just a ritual. For some it is but for others like myself it is about Jesus.
True
Worship is obedience! Wow, oh wow. Revelation that I needed and so many churches need as well. Th ank you for this pearl of wisdom.
Obedience and service!👏👍😊
I realised this a while ago. Music is taking people away from God but because its got God or Jesus they think its holy and what God reaches when He wants obedience... which is fine out of love
Wow, Amen!!! Exactly worship = obedience!!!!!!
Please pray for my family and me to have a closer walk with Jesus i want God in my life more and more.
Amen in the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I pray.
Done. 🙏 God bless you and lavious you with His presence.
John 12: 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”
@@jgonzalez101 and it will be your portion. the lord says draw close to me and i will draw closer, he says seek me and you will surly find me. Amen.
Worship is not singing, but our obedience! That's new to me!
It's a Pearl, don't loose it.
But we do sing to the Lord. Music was created and designed by God for His glory.
It's this ungodly, demonic music most churches play in this modern Christianity we see today.
We sing Psalms, Hymns and Spiritual songs....Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3.
Ephesians 5v19 Tell us to sing and make melody in your heart to the Lord and Colossian 3 v 16 this is in the new testament not the old. We live under the new testament Christ nailed the old law to the cross , it is Finnish he said it But ppl will argue with God but can't win
In the last decades, Worship has become musical entertainment! 😊
Many progressive churches are into Hip Hop/Rap music.
I gave a thumb up in agreement
I’m a worshipper in our church and this message just broke me. What a sermon. Jesus you take it all,blessed be the name of the Lord.
What a great message
Praise the Lord. What a humble way to receive this message. May the Lord use you to open others eyes
I have been heartbroken of how much of a show church services have become and have been asking God to renew my joy and depth in Him, and there have been so many spiritual attacks on my household! Last night as I layed in bed I prayed for every person in my household and when I got up this morning, I saw that my mother had sent me this link. As I listened to it, I was fed what my heart has been YEARNING for about true worship! He is TRULY WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE!! In SPIRIT and in TRUTH!!
Especially at “Christian” funerals.
We turned worship into singing then into self-worship. It's officially karaoke at God's holy pulpit. In addition, we've made worship all about us. Worship songs with more I's and me's than you and yours are perfect examples of this. The Lord did say people will be lovers of themselves, arrogant, prideful and haters and God, etc in the last days. This is clearly evident in our churches today.
What? When You Say You Love Someone do you say love you or do you profess that love? "I love you," I love you Lord because you first loved ME" "you died for me, and I will worship you"
How did any of that become self- serving or self-worship? This is such an asinine thought process to me.
. It depends on our motive.
@@lavapop1900 Watch footage of Steven Furtick and company in action onstage and you'll see the problem. And that's only one example.
Johnm5211...BOOM. 🔨🎯💯
@@Anne-po99 The motive doesn't matter at all. Christ told the Samaritan woman in Jhn 4 that the Father is to be worshiped in truth. Having good motives don't amount to anything if there is no truth involved.
This sermon needs to be played at every church!!
Amen
Why?
I agree.
Yes Pastor, the biggest drawback for the modern church is the pursuit of comfort…
Finally, someone has questioned the idea of music taking precedence over worship 🛐
Thank you, Pastor Tim Dilena! 🙏
Preach it brother!! About time someone told what real worship is about. Thank you, Pastor Dilena. Appreciate you and your boldness and obedience.
Amen.
Ok, but in basically every church I've attended ( have moved a lot, home-address-wise), across several different denominations and associations or non, our pastor &/or "worship team leader" HAS said this. Also, we read it in our Bibles. I'm getting a little tired of what maybe some mega church or popular writer or artist or etc. does or says or doesn't, being ascribed to "the American church" at large, at least, those who embrace contemporary music ( none of ours have had rock/hard rock music or anything extreme or clearly sensational etc. ). It seems to me that the VAST majority of those in churches who stick by the inerrancy of Scripture, the fundamental doctrines and esp. those who have adopted (most of the time) going through the Bible, ch. by ch., vrs. by vrs when preaching/teaching, and who aren't brand new Christians/new to the Bible, DO know and grow in all the ways we are to be worshipping God. Who may, yes, classify singing praises as it, right or wrong, but who definitely know that our whole lives are to be, among other things one could Biblically say on this topic.
Thump, Trump, that God Damn Bible
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky May God have mercy on you for that weird comment
When “praise teams” and “worship leaders” became a feature - an “opening act” - for church services.
May God help us to worship in obedience and truth.
When singers are more concentrated on doing complex runs then just singing this song straight with needed inflection to support the words of worship, it becomes a big show.
eloquently expressed!
But they don't sing on your behalf, go ahead and sing the right way.
Some churches have a musical or choir director.
@@WW3_SoonImagine that! They even had that in the Bible according to the Psalms. 😏
This is the first time I am listening to a message from Times Square Church....for some reason, i decided to watch this video. I was praying for a stategy to remain in Christ and deepen my r/ship with him.....this just answers all of my questions....thank you gor this Pastor...thank you
Dear, please get busy spreading the Gospel of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.
GOD richly bless you
@@salvationtimenow7121, please be busy with spreading the Good News of Yeshua The Messiah!
Thank you. Karen! YHWH richly bless you in truth!
There are no words. This teaching was powerful and a blessing.
Wow! this is such a much needed teaching in the Church today! We don't see miracles or the gifts of the Spirit operating in church services exactly because there is no worship! May God forgive us and have mercy on us!
Wow, this preaching is hitting me hard in the heart. I was wasting time watching a movie at 2am and decided to watch youtube and this preach came about. Wow, Thank you Lord Jesus.
WOW! I have struggled lately with “worship and praise” at our church…I feel like it’s more of a show. But this…clear it all up. I’ve grown up in church and never heard it preached like this. Thank you Pastor Delana. David Wilkerson has brought more growth to my relationship with Yeshua than all the preachers I’ve sat under! What a blessing to see the fire has not left TSC!
I agree. No depth, all show. Pride is the worst of all sins.
Victoria, are you by chance Torah observant?
theres a lot of singing and worship going on in heaven so you might have to get used to it
His Name is JESUS.
However it wouldn't be like this unless the people want it. Hopefully more and more people will wake up. I attended a church once that played the same worship song over n over again it was quite mesmerising.
This message is a confirmation of the reason I've been waking up between 2-5 am and I'm frustrated because I'm awake and can't fall back to sleep. I saw another video explaining why. I'm to pray. I'm to be obedient to the Holy Spirit. Early in the morning will I seek you....the obedience and sacrifice of worship. Thank you for sharing Jamie.
Same here. Now I realize that the Holy Spirit is waking me up in the night to pray for this broken world, for family, friends, neighbors, leaders, countries etc.
That's probably the most anointed thing I've heard in years. Thanks for teaching what worship is.
This man of God is truly filled with the Spirit. I know that because this sermon is so much spirit filled. Am gonna listen to all of his sermons. He has blessed me ❤❤❤
Yeah right, he’s filled with the Holy Spirit of making loadsa money!
WORSHIP INTO SINGING CAME WITH ROCK BANDS AND HUGE TV IN THE CHURCH. MODERIZATION OF CHURCH HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. GLAD THIS MAN IS SPEAKING UP.
What? When you can find even one peice of notated music in the Bible, then we can talk. Anytime a song leader turns to self affirmation, or self glorification, the worship of God is lost. I have family members who are song leaders in their churches who's focus is the performance - and it has nothing to do with the style. I'd put John Cooper from Skillet in a cage match against Stephen Furtick any day and my metal loving apologist would dance over him all day long. Look first at the words being said and the heart of those saying it, and then let's talk delivery vehicle.
Rock music had nothing to do with it. It's about the heart.
What I have learned recently is that praise is what we speak (fruit of the lips), worship is what we do.
Amen
Amen
Yes, praise comes from the lips and worship comes from the heart.
Amen.
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Yes! Amen and amen!❤
"From Him, through Him and to Him are all things."
Great sermon, I have been struggling about modern praise "worship" at my church, may our hands be open!
In the 80's when it was becoming what it is today God showed me a lot about it. I was in a very, very long fast when this came.
Praise and glorifying God is speaking of Him and the things He's done for us. Honor and worship is obedience. The good works that are a fruit of His Spirit, our change of heart, glorifies Him to others. Careful though, human compassion isn't what He wants, He wants Godly compassion and not flesh works.
If a song fills your heart then sing, but dont go through the motion. That's offensive to our Father and is a strange incense, and when the sons of Aaron offered it, they died.
The Holy Spirit uses the music to pull people up out of the dark. The devil wants to stop that.
@@theoryofpersonality1420 Hmm...the holy spirit uses music? The devil wants us to stop singing?
@@theoryofpersonality1420 Scripture reference?
Yes! Our hands open, our eyes closed and our brains completely switched off and our wallets … oh f**k!!! Where’s my wallet?
One of the best messages I have heard Pastor Tim Delina preach. Thank God He has found a servant of God who is not afraid to speak the Truth.
The one who did not prostrate himself and fall on his face didn't worship as Jesus taught. Such person just made up some ritual and deviated by following baseless innovation in acts of worship.
Yes 'Lord ! So True! Powerful Word! Hallelujah!
Has been on my mind a long time. We have been singing about Him, about us, but not to him...Too many places it has become a talent show...We all need to hear this...
Our pastor ends every service saying “Service is over - worship begins!”
This is very Biblical and so profound for believers to get this right about true worship, only God knows how church ended up here on how we view worship. I have been blessed to hear this confirmed message about worship. Worship is a life style, it is everything about our Christian walk, it is not for this hour and that minute etc but a walk of worship... ho God help us to have our minds renewed according to scripture. Bless Pastor Tim for this timely Apostolic message of truth.🎉
Amen 🙏🏼 🙏🏼
If we study we would have never thought that singing in a building was worship, it's not only confirmed in Genesis The apostle Paul clearly mentioned what is true worship but I'm sure you read it before, the problem that we have had is believing only the pastor and not gods word
Squirrel on the psychiatrist's couch says, "It was when you told me you are what you eat that I realised I was nuts."
True worship is to the Father in Spirit and Truth
There was a young man from Bengal,
Who went to a fancy dress ball.
He went just for fun,
Dressed up as a bun,
And a dog ate him up in the hall.
When the Singing shook the Jails of Paul
Let’s not twist the meaning of the message here. This is different concepts
This is a powerful teaching. But I have come to being able to worship Him in song 🎶 In fact I could only memorise the Word, by singing it! My first life-verse was, ‘Obedience is better than sacrifice.’ The second one was, ‘Do what I ask of you. So not add or take away from it.’ From learning obedience I have learned to have loose-hands over 44 years of following HIM! I humbly share: we sold all we had to follow Him to the mission field. And that included leaving my father, who had a terminal-cancer.. and he sent me off with his blessing. I say again: I humble share this. And now, He has asked me to give up something I have done daily, with 10 Christian gal pals, on line.. it was a struggle, but I FINALLY shared with them, and they blessed me to obey. Also I have just learned that our eldest granddaughter has been conscripted into the Norse Military today! We knew it was coming and have been praying God will use this to His honour & glory. We expect she will be sent for the very north of Norway.. to the Russian Border. I surrender her to Jesus. Amen
Dear lord Jesus I believe please take control of my life I surrender it all to you. Do as you will Amen.
Feel better now?
Thank you. We have been worshiping the "show" and not the Bible.
Maybe you have. But many are not. It clearly says in the Bible how important sound and praise and worship through music is. This was a truly misguided sermon with many false teachings. I guess the choir of angels is heaven are just fools then.
I totally agreed with you. I understand you.
@@jordob5791What part and where are “misguided” “ false teachings “ you accused in your condemnation over this man of Christ teaching/sermon?
Like loud, ears blasting Hollywood type of so called worship, that’s your choice and right but calling a man preaching and teaching based on his conviction makes you nothing less than a hateful one, calling a man of God a false teacher simply bc you disagree………..😮 I’d be careful, The Almighty who called him in the ministry will not take your comment lightly. He might have a huge 2 by 4 in His hand ready to spank His child. God bless you.
@@keithbarton9859 Your ignorance to this topic makes it nearly impossible to respond to you. Music is a form of worship. Obviously there are people who go through the motions in any aspect of worship. But to say it isn’t worship for those that actually are sincerely making a joyful noise to the lord,WOW!, that is truly perplexing. Please go and actually read the Bible as it pertains to music and worship. While you’re at it study the parts about false teachings. I think that bit about a 2x4 was imbecilic. How quick you were to fantasize about violence towards someone you don’t know. You are assuming a lot just as this original comment is. Like I said, I guess the choirs in heaven are just fools then?Maybe they will have a bone to pick with you and this pastor. Having a lazy mind makes you susceptible to things that are false, like this pastor’s sermon. It’s that simple.
I will now turn you over to The Lord Jesus Christ Himself to deal with you. Good luck!
In short, I used to be a bad boy. I did all sorts of evil deeds🙆🙆🙆🙆😭😭😭😭😭😭 but the Mighty hand of God was just on me. Thank you God for your love.
Now, it's 3yrs down the line and I accepted the Lord Jesus as the Lord and Saviour of my life and now I do serve Him on His Alter.
Glory be to the Most High. In deed a seed of God dies not.
Great Point!!! Music has never been, is not now, or shall ever be worship. Music is Praise!!! The ultimate definition of worship is Obedience!!! We worship when hearing the Word of God being preached or taught in a biblical way.
Finally (!!) someone is talking about BIBLICAL worship! The only thing missing is any mention of what the word 'worship' literally means in both the Hebrew and Greek. It means to prostrate oneself, nose to he ground (hard to sing, dance, or play a keyboard in that position); alternately to bow down or kneel. Just knowing that makes it clear that something is wrong with what we're calling worship. The Abraham and Isaac story is the other important key to understanding it though.
Most people in church are not really worshipping! Most times we no longer even kneel down to pray!
WOW! I am undone. LORD please Help my unbelief. 🙏🙏🙏
May God show you His glory
We worship in spirit in truth by speaking in agreement with God's Word
Music, singing are EXTENSIONS of worship, i don't need music to worship, it's another avenue of worship...And as a Worship drummer for 50+ years, its a great way to worship...
Do you think drowning out the words of a song, okay? I dislike changing 100 year old hymns into modern music. I feel it almost plagiarism.
You missed the message my friend.
I agree with you, i long to hear preacher preach about sin and HELL and about not sinning and not going to hell about me getting my soul right with GOD
Pastor Tim I was moved to tears so many times. Thank you.
Worship has A new meaning now !
I surrender it all to you my Lord ❤
This is one of the most important messages you can hear today.
The entire service of a church on Sunday morning is worship. The singing is part of the teaching, and the teaching is part of the worship. And all of it is meant to bring glory to God.
Thank you Pastor Tim and Times Square Church for your unwavering support for Israel.
Sounds like you were doing a fun razor getting the people used to opening app their pocket books and let it get all go I get it a great manipulation of God's word complaining about the singing yet you got them to sing complaining about the special effects, yet you got special effects all over that stage in the lighting what? I hypocrite what men nepulation and its quite obvious.
@@stavros333Could you rephrase yourself so I could understand? I would like to give a reply to what I think you just said but I’m not actually sure what you’re trying to say
While in college getting music degree I had to write my philosophy of worship (apparently alot of churches want you to have this in your resumé portfolio).
My whole point in my “philosophy of worship” was that musical worship was a drop in the bucket of worship to our God and that singing & music is essentially empty worship if our daily lives are not submitted to Him and His glory.
Until our lives are truly live daily for God, our hearts will not connect and interact with the musical praise & worship.
We may not need to fervently emotionally express during musical worship but I can see the attitude of true worship on the face of believers in the crowd who truly have good fruit & live for God in their daily lives.
True worshipers will worship God in spirit and in truth, not music it has been added n added till it stinks only our Lord knows how he feels this pain of listening to such chaotic nonstop music , may the Lord forgive those who teach n sponsor these evil practices in churches, Jesus did not play any instruments during 5he last supper nor did he tell to do so may our eyes be opened n worship God seriously n not by showing off our capabilities n going off tangent by music
To me this is a prophetic message, a timely word for our time. A word in the tradition of our late brother David Wilkerson, and diametrically opposed to much shallow 'feeling good' and prosperity preaching. It was a challenge to me also to reflect on my personal life and consider whether it is a life of true worship or whether I have taken back things that I had sacrificed long ago. We live in a time when so much distraction and so many temptations tempt us to opt for a watered down christian life.
Thanks you so much, brother, for passing Gods Word on to us and to me.
This is such a beautiful description of worship! Thank you for sharing this perspective! I pray that our hearts would be surrendered in true worship!❤
Wow ! This is so powerful one of the best messages I’ve heard in a while !
Praise God for this uplifting sermon.
You guys at Times Square Church are so blessed to sit under the teaching of Pastor Tim Dilena.
I am beginning to pray for such a pastor and teacher in my little Australian city. 🙏🏼
Totally nailed it! Rom 12:1 worship and submission to God are synonymous. On a side note, I find the music in the background distracting. In my mind (and I may be way off), it is used to create a mood which feeds the idea that music and mood are needed for worship. Love the message though. It is ALL God's.
i agree. the background music is very distracting
My thoughts exactly. I’m not bashing the pianist but in that particular setting, too many notes were being played over top of the minister making his final points (the application), our brain will tune one or the other out. 😬
This is my fourth time listening to this message; it is deep revelation for me and It will change my whole attitude about giving my all to God. No more resistance! God help me to walk in this revelation in my daily walk with you.
I’ve given ALL of me for over 50 years & have NEVER regretted it!!! All I’ve surrendered the Lord has replaced with victory & beauty !!! Praise Almighty God & His Son Jesus myLord & Savior!!!
I LOVE this message. This is it! The Truth. Christianity is repenting of me running my life and giving full control to God Who created and owns me. It is constant submission to Him.
Praise God for this powerful truth filled message!!!
Thank you, i want Him in my life. Take it all Lord Jesus. From Philippines
AMEN!!! True worshippers have loose hands that have surrendered ALL to JESUS!!!
Thank you for this sermon. For years when at church and they say let’s stand and worship my spirit says this isn’t worship
One of the best sermons I’ve heard! Yours of the glory Lord! Yes Lord! You are the one in charge! You deserve the glory! 😭🙌♥️
Dearest brethren , we are so blessed by your teachings every Sunday , please please , ask the piano NOT to play during the sermon , it’s disturbing and does not allow us to focus on the message . The piano played during half the sermon , not at the end . It started playing min 26 .
Agree..You took the words out of my mouth.
I also don’t understand why during the prayer someone is strumming on the guitar or playing on the keyboard. It is definitely distracting from the talk to God.
This is the richest message I’ve ever heard! תודה רבה!
This message has confirmed what has been in my heart for years, for years. Without hearing this message, I have been saying of late, when going to visit the shut-in, I’m now going to perform an act of worship to visit…it is a sacrifice of my flesh, because my flesh cries and say “ you know you have this to do and that to do, you can do this later. However, when I frame overcoming the flesh with an act of worship, I am then, even with still resistance, able to chose the act of worshiping God through serving others. This message will be used in days to come, for me,, to keep me worshiping our Father.
Thank you for sharing these awesome truths on worship, and sharing the scriptures, I’m praying for loose hands, to be free to worship in spirit & truth.
Am in tears 😭😭❤🙏🙌🙌🙌off this turth am speechless off how God almighty Jesus christ made this message came to confirm God's word off turth...pastor Tim dilena I pray 🙏 one day I get to meet you because God showed me you in a dream sir.. am being obedient according to God's will God bless you pastor Tim and TSC...am overwhelmed ..
Worship ≠ Singing.
Worship = obedience.
= knowing God and walking in obedience, letting Christ rule your life.
Thank you Jesus,my life wil forever live to worship you
JESUS!! What a revelation of worship. Thank u pastor.
Blessings from germany! Preach it Pastor,the Lord bless you and your family!!!
I have always taught WORSHIP is OBEDIENCE!!! Pure and simple. DO what God says!!!
EXACTLY, then their heart will be right when leading into singing.
Thanks for that revelatory message about WORSHIP. God bless you more sir.
A lot of times when I study mathematics it gives me a certain reverence for God. God is in a lot of places, not just song. But of course he's there too. Lot of good church songs out there.
It's time to return to true worship. Thanks for this timely words, Pastor!
We have been worshipping the activities and not the one who is worthy, the one who died for us to connect us back to the Almighty God. What a truth we need to believe... Thank u pastor
Thank You Lord God for bringing me here, and teaching me what worship truly is, and what worshipping God in spirit and truth really means. This is answered prayer already. 🙌
I wondered about that myself! Living in loving obedience to God glorifying Him in all we do and say.
This man is a preacher of the Word of God
Amen! The desire to worship God for this man is bringing in revival for many. I love to hear him preach.
God wants us to be worshipers in spirit and in truth. He deserves all our praise. Thank you my Lord and my savior 🙏🏻 We surrender all to you!
Singing to the Lord is a type of worship! It ushers in the holy Spirit!
Messages come through lyrics and then I pray! 😊. Works for me ❤!
God has angelic beings surrounding Himself singing and proclaiming His Holiness constantly.
You worthy of it all, You worthy of all. To You are all things, from You are all things, You deserve the glory!
Singing is just a part of worship but I think it is important to understand that Godly singing reaches a part of our mind and soul not easily obtainable elsewise -our subliminal mind and our spirt. Chains of pain and sin have been broken from the power of the Holy Spirit during these deep worship moments. I experienced healing as well during these times of God people coming collectively and unitedly to intercede for me while many are singing. During song we have the Word spoken over us, through us and by us and the Word is Jesus so when you think about it that way it is very powerful, it is a filling of the Holy Spirt. It is one of the few times in my week that He has my FULL attention and I am engaged and involved, not just sitting there trying to listen. The trouble is so many churches do not offer this to their congregations and do not understand the value-for most in America they are just entertained during the services with a couple songs, a long sermon and a closing prayer. Listening to the Word is important but that is not all worship either. Prayer is worship. Serving is also worship. Tithing is worship. And yes singing is worship. WORSHIP is a whole life offered in sacrifice for the glory of God and in thankfulness of our Salvation through His Son Jesus Christ. Singing is just one aspect of it, but it is a very important one because it often empowers us to worship deeply in all the other areas.
I agree! ... as long as we recognize our true intent: get over all the optics and performances around us in life to really worship (obedience) God from the heart.
The only thing i find real off is the awards ceremony for gospel music - who is the real focal point now?? hmmm...
The old old preachers use to say worship is on ur knees and giving it all to Jesus this preacher remind me of that thank u…
This is an inspired sermon. I say Amen!
Loved his message but to me it would have had more of an affect if there was NO MUSIC: just the Word of God going forth touching obedient hearts and souls.
Best sermon I've heard in YEARS!
Absolutely on dot! He's not just a preacher who preaches to others but feels it himself, every word of what he said, with conviction. God bless him!
Worship is a LIFESTYLE, not only on a Sunday morning, stop blaming worship leaders, let us blame ourselves for looking for worship only on a Sunday morning. To me Sunday morning is a time of celebration with the Saints. My life outside of 2hrs on Sunday morning should be a continual worship to my Father, no matter what I may be going through. We have to stand before God for ourselves, nobody else will be with us. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Glory be to God.