Can Volvo's Most Dirt-Worthy V60 Cross Country Make It Up Tombstone Hill? Not Without A Fight!
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2020
- (www.TFLoffroad.com) The 2020 Volvo V60 Cross Country is aimed to be a compelling, dirt-worthy alternative to a crossover - even those from the Swedish brand's own lineup. With a turbocharged engine and all-wheel drive, can this wagon make it to the top of Tombstone Hill?
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Another great Tombstone Hill review by Tommy! Have you considered putting a camera behind the driver to show a cockpit view during the climb, as you have done in the unforgettable Gold Mine hill reviews?
It’s not an off roader per say. However, they’re awesome to get to the ski lodge up in the north of Sweden, great on badly plowed city streets, same on the highways/ autobahn. Greetings from Sweden (where almost all Volvos are diesel).
What displacement is the diesel?
@@weirdshibainu 2.0l on all new volvos. with a single turbo on the D4 with 190 hp and twin turbo D5 with 230 hp.
@@akula_0142 thank you
@@weirdshibainu They used to be 5cyl 2.4l . I own a V60 CC -18 in the previous model with that engine. Love it!
@@Pepegium A 5 cyl diesel? Nice.
Did this guy just complain that the interior was too nice!
Yes he did, a littel stupid boy he is.
He suggested that some of the interior materials are a little too precious for heavy use.
@@doubleclutchonline5811 Nonsense. Since when is high quality bad?
@@tomeng9520 When it's so nice you feel guilty if it gets scratched up or used hard. Something that has potential to happen if used like it's marketed.
@@tritchie6272 April 1st already O.0
As the owner of a V90 Cross Country, I’m going to say that people don’t buy these to go off road. They are bought to make it up into the mountains to the trails, through snow, mud, whatever, and to be incredibly comfortable and efficient on the highway getting there (which it is). I know the older ones were meant as SUV alternatives, but once SUVs started coming out of Europe, all of these “active” wagons were moved a bit up-market and seem to be more meant to appeal to “car guys”. As had one of the original A6 Allroads and that car was much more off roadable than my Cross Country, but the Cross Country is way more comfortable and just as off roadable (by that I mean not all that off roadable) as the Audi Allroads or the Mercedes equivalent (maybe the Mercedes is a bit more off roadable). Totally enjoyed the review, but would even think of taking my Cross Country beyond a bumpy dirt or gravel road or an unplowed street.
Yes exactly, the off road he’s talking about is meant for Jeeps
They can be used off road just not for hardcore rock crawling.
Another V90CC owner here and I am the rare owner that isn't afraid to (respectfully) beat the ever-living crap out of it. They definitely aren't as rugged as they used to be, but i've never had close to any issues on any of the loose sand, deep mud, rough rocky "roads" I sometimes end up finding myself on. I came from Subaru and expected more of a difference between the Haldex and their AWD system, and there's certainly a different feel to it. The haldex just needs the driver to trust it a little more than Subaru's and it'll keep up pace. Are the V90CC and V60CC designed and built for these tests? nah, not really, but if they can do it, why not?
And in parts of Europe towing without being afraid to get stuck in wetland or trail. They can tow up to 2100 KG. (*when properly equipped)
Turn off the traction control, it doesn’t actually turn off but improves the AWD’s ability to distribute power.
agreed, i have an XC70 T6 AWD, turning off the DSTC or changing it to Sport DSTC mode is the only way to do difficult offroad things. it will still brake the wheels feely spinning but it wont limit engine output.. also in my experience wont cook transmission like having DSTC enabled and unable to move basically locked in place. not sure what is happening to cause trans to get so hot with DSTC enabled i suspect its that holding like 3-4 grand constantly as soft limit sets in for DSTC and ad just perched in a spot like that it doesn't have enough power when brakes are locked like that so its siting on clutch packs ripping them apart maybe? but with wheels spinning, never had trans over heat waning..
tires are another thing to consider, obviously. all season wont have enough bite. my XC70 has similar ground clearance, i think 8.5 inches and im pretty sure with falken wildpeak tires my wagon would climbed that no issue with DSTC enabled.. on the all season verde/scorpion tires i would absolutely need to disable DSTC to make it with all that wheel spin. infact im running wildpeaks right now and im am amazed how good these tires off for tricky loose terrain, also decent for snow!
The headlight refresh rate on the camera is driving me crazy
I know y'all like to test them as they come from factory, but I feel you put some all terrain tires on that bad boy and it would find the grip it's looking for.
Yes, the shitty tires kinda ruin the run. Put some real off-road tires on it and it would do the course without issue.
I tell people that all the time, tires make all the difference in the world!
Yeah, tires make all the difference... they test most of their cars with hard ass street tires, I wish they could get them with at least a mild all terrain tire
It won't fit, this new one won't take rims smaller than 18inches. The old one can go down to a 16inches rim. I brought a set of 235/55r17 snow tire for the old one and won't fit the new car D:
@@rickfeng4466 eh? How come?
I’m impressed with this car. I don’t expect it to be as capable off-road as a truck or SUV and I would never drive it where you’re testing it to the limit, but it’s a nice in-between with luxury cars and crossovers and an excellent daily driver/commuter car.
Could you please buy an Volvo XC70 P2 or P3 and make it as off road worthy as you can? Maybe an overland version?
Would love to see a XC70 P3 version.
Would be interested to see you guys test offroad the first gen RAV4 (in 3 doors the better). It is the very first crossover / softroader created and when it was released it was mocked as a fake offroader.
By nowadays standard of crossovers I think it's probably one of the best of its category in offroad, no smart system but a central diff lock, correct ground clearance, excellent angles and a low first gear.
Would really like a modern test of this precursor vehicle in this kind of terrain.
Tires, tires, tires.
It may be capable, but there's something to be said about confidence offroad. By the look on your face on Dare, this doesn't give it.
It sure is good looking though 🤤 Then again, I've always loved the look of the old ones and the Audi Allroad.
Would love to see this with a small lift and on 17s with a nice set of ATs 😍
Just purchased a 2020 v60cc and love it! Besides how comfortable and smooth the ride is, it's actually somewhat fun to drive (once you get it up to speed) ...I was a little spoiled - had an AudiS3 that was modified to get 400hp - but the best part about it is that not everyone has one. Its low, stealthy, somewhat sexy and yes a wagon - so you can tote 8 industrial size packages of T.P. ... which came in handy during the pandemic shortage!
Low? If it wasn't for the plastic, I'd think its a XC60.
"Our goal today is to upset this volvo..." lol Class act Tommy. :) Slip test. Yes! Good testing. :)
I've got a 2017 V60 Cross Country and I absolutely love it. I put a RaceChip on it to help with a little extra power and torque. I also added a set of BFGoodridge KO2s.
ur wrong!!! it looks really great even better than the previous V60 Cross Country!!!
Chandrachur Niyogi looks good but if it doesn’t perform it’s a waste of money
Volvo would have done a lot better with a little speed
i've had an order for Def 110, until i saw your check engine series. Now 've bought v60cc instead and pretty happy with my choice. Thanks guys
FYI: It’s not Haladex it’s just Haldex.
Also please do the roller tests using one rear wheel with traction as well as one front as this will prove interesting with different vehicles.
If the car "has all this power"...use it...stop destroying transmissions if you're afraid of the terrain you're testing on. You knew you were going to overheat the trans when you used light throttle to show the AWD system...but you figured "matt it!" when you weren't getting your desired results. All you showed was how not to drive it in my opinion.
Full traction control was on it was impeding putting power to the wheels.
@@johngaudet6316 The review was great. Tommy did say that he was testing the system which was good....but I can tell you that damaging plastics is cheaper then a new transmission. Maybe should've disabled the nanny software as much as he could've after the first attempt on either hill...you know, go as far as he could with and try without. Then we'd know...right? I probably wouldn't have even posted a comment.
Great vid! Love that you stretch the limits of this car's climbing capability. Have you considered doing similar tests to the bigger V90 CC?
Ground clearance is not a car issue, it’s a driver issue - i.e. the nut behind the wheel
you actually have a skid plate on the bottom of the V60 CC. It's all the way through the under side of the vehicle. So you would not have puncture the oil pan.
only cross country and suv models of volvo have skid plate or all volvo sedan models as s 60,s 90 have skid plate under too ?
Great test .. yes maxed out on what it can do without damage.. too pricy for rough terrain really . Another great informative vid . Thanks .
Great video, but some more aggressive tires would help....
Id still love to see a review of the konas awd thats mated with the standard 6 speed auto! My mother has one and im shocked at how well it does with the center lock on. Also dont have to worry about the dual clutch nonsense so no burnning up the clutch. I think itd do way better than the more premium kona
definitely fun to see those trendy 19 inch wheels alongside all that dirt/articulation
Bro. You had room, you weren’t gonna smash anything.... stop creeping every car up these trails and making it look like some of these vehicles are trash smh 🤦🏽♂️
Tommy 🙂, I agree with you, the current Cross Country series in Volvo's lineup is nothing like the original V70 Cross Country.
Dont know why but the awd system is not that agressive in the offroad mode, the sport mode has alot better awd in my opinnion. Also take the tcs of.
I love this car, great comfort and styling and better offroad performance than most people that drive lifted 4 Runners will probably ever need
Haldex systems will, and always have overheated when treated this way, you just can't keep gunning it trying to upset the vehicle and not expect it to overheat. Tommy you needed more speed and aggression (easy to say from my arm chair !!). Seriously, great video showing what the cross country could do if required.
great review. what color is this v60? birch light or crystal white metallic?
I had the previous V60 cross country in the UK with the 2.4 5 cylinder diesel with a Polestar tune.
Even with the standard Primacy 4 tyres It would work in snow, wet mud (I would try and get myself stuck) and even did a track day in it. Really capable car but thirsty. Seems more capable than this, smaller 18 wheels and more rubber.
Looks about the right on/off road mix given their SUV options, but agree a more basic trim version would be good.
Why do few people buy volvo SUV (cars)?
This car got a unique historical design so beautiful to me.
12:34 look at the face 🤣
Everytime i also do that in these kind of situation 😅
Did you run the new 2020 Ford Explorer ST 4WD thru this road course?
Volvo's are pretty solid off-road for what they are!! Also just got done watching truck King and now I'm over here watching you guys this is one of those dream mornings
The prior generation V60(~2017) could not pas the roller test that TFL does.
Nobody will use the car like in the second part. It still made the first part easily .
And is has more ground clearance, more than most of such vehicles (21 cm against 18 cm on an Audi for example).
The engine protectoon is there too but I agree: interior shall be differrentiated for the Cross Country.
And they shall add more rear comfort features like inclined rear seats, sunshades, adjustable headrests. But it costs and Volvo now is focused on advertising the design...and people apparently buy it
It’s a vehicle that knows its audience. Capable enough for snow and driving to trails/hikes without worry when the road ends but not actually for off roading.
You guys need to get one of those older XC90 V8s and test out the haldex back then. Not a lot tests were done with those on CZcams
Honda Passport up Tombstone Hill soon?
Ok Tommy what have we learned even with off road mode? V60 Is not really good to off-road. Great video👍
Their AWD systems are pretty impressive these days
Tommy does a great job on camera. Send him to a race school to hone his go fast skills.
Do you consider the last gen cross country old?
That is right off of Switzerland trail correct? looks familiar
Can you test an older XC that would be an interesting segment .
Pretty sure the 2003-2007 xc70s only had 8.2in of ground clearance which is a little less than this one? They were cheaper which may have made them less stressful to drive
Volvo V60 Cross Country has 8.3 inches of ground clearance, this thing can boldly go where many wagons can't.
Volvo V60 ground clearance : 5,8 inches.
Audi Allroad A4 ground clearance : with 6.5 inches. 1.5 inches more than the regular A4.
12:23 That face LMAO
do a nissan rogue, I have one and it has seen some rough stuff, sand, mud, river crossings
Can you do this vs the Buick wagon
What if you changed the tires to more off road oriented? Will it make a difference? If this question was asked I am sorry. Lol
That was entertaining. I confused why Tommy is surprised it does badly.
Put the smallest wheels possible on it with more aggressive tires and try the same hill.
Yes I agree with your comment, those wheels and tires are not suited to full off road climbing, it's akin to putting on high heels to go mounting climbing !
Audi Allroad next! I would LOVE to see that.
Volvo V60 Cross Country has 8.3 inches of ground clearance, this thing can boldly go where many wagons can't.
Volvo V60 ground clearance : 5,8 inches.
Audi Allroad A4 ground clearance : with 6.5 inches. 1.5 inches more than the regular A4.
tommy at 12:34 looks like a kid who knows he's about to get in trouble with his dad for wrecking the car
I think this car is now more designed for farm tracks and if you want to go some place like this then you’d buy a suv. But I just want to say if someone who’s buying this car knows they’re going to take it off-road then they would absolutely spec the steel engine skid plate to not have to worry about going over a rock
You need to do these reviews with your dad in the car.
Volvo didn't put a diff lock in off road mode so Tommy couldn't destroy this very pretty Volvo on this trail.🤣
Cross country vs. outback?
Love to hear your opinions:
volvo sexy, subaru for fans
Better than any subaru :P
Or try the constant awd mode, definitely the wrong tires for off-road
Haha that face lol .. classic Tommy lol @12:30 min.lol
Try crawl control with the landcruiser
Say what you want about Subaru, and there are many justifiable criticisms, but this video explains why Subaru is kicking butt in the marketplace. Everything you said about what Volvo used to be is what Subaru is now.
Just sucks you're stuck with a CVT. 🤮
69 Bronco guy! Umm. Watch the video. And the CVT is a justifiable criticism as I alluded to in my comment.
Halifax is the type of signal not just the name like others it seems Volvo have actually made something better and different good job
That Cross Country is more like bringing the lodge to you instead of going TO the lodge.
This scenarios here are the only reason I still stick to Subarus despite the rather shady decisions (read CVT + turbo deletes) the manufacturer has made since 2013. The symmetrical AWD is the standard bearer bar none.
I’ve been eyeing a Volvo for a second but Haldex being front wheel bias is a big undesirable for me who’s never owned a FWD. Not sure how I feel about that rn.
I'd like to know how the XC40 compares..
Do more crossovers
still no moose test - why not??
Hey Tommy, I think you could make it big in HOLLYWOOD!!
man the way you drive you destroy any vehicle...
Yes. Nobody expects this Volvo to compete off road with your project truck - old Ford Diesel Smokey which just walked uphill and downhill with no drama.
that's how ur testing the car by positioning the car on some metal plates???
I'm sure I've driven my 2015 Outback in worse places than that. I was looking for a replacement without a CVT but it's look this is not the one.
CVT´s sux big time.
@Jonathan Losito Ouch. Tell her to switch to Volvo V60 Cross Country.
There is no oil pan to puncture as the car has a protective plate/cover underneath. you have to apply some drive otherwise you are wasting your time!
Come on Tommy , in this case Cross Country means a dirt or gravel road not Tombstone Hill :-)
It got hot because you were too gentle and did not allow it to go. You had a dealership demo and were afraid to hurt it because you would have to pay.
Rename it Cross City
The Japanese transmission is the part that failed first... Interesting
Something other than pure street tires would have helped too.
FYI it's haldex, not halidex
think you can get another option in Sweden. :D
As you see tires still play a major role........
XC70 FTW!
I used to own one and my wife and I miss it every day. Dang kids and life changes.
You really need to learn to stop hooking your thumbs around the steering wheel like that while driving off road, a tire could go into a hole and quickly turn the wheel and screw up or jamb your thumb.
Хорошая машина, прокладку между рулём и сиденьем только поменять надо
Roll up in this next to the SuperTremor.
"You got a V8? That's cute. Try a V60!"
Not bad but not great either i feel if you wanted more Off road worthyness you upgrade to a X60. The cross country isnt what it use to be cause most wagons dont sell anymore its all about SUV and CUV for the mass portion of the demand. Still a good looking vehicle though.
The question is would the XC60 truly be any better. Other than the optional T6 drivetrain for gas engines and likely tires, transmission and awd are the same between the two.
If you want to go full off driving buy a full off road vehicle, risking such terrain in a soft roader is asking for trouble, to start with it doesn't have the right tires or ground clearance, plus you will find the guarantee will be scuppered, not the best of ideas, all you achieved was to put even more stress on the drivetrain having to creep up that climb causing the car to stop on multiple occasions, so in short that should of told you you were risking damage not only to the underside but also the gearbox.
So the new Volvo's won't pass the rear single wheel on the ground roller test?
They do, it’s much faster though with esp off
They do if you turn off traction control, which Tommy is not doing for some reason.
A lot of cars do better with traction control off on roller tests, they should try turning it off when a car is struggling
With some taller off-road tires and with the traction control turned off, this would've done all portions of the course without issue.
Rolex makes Watches that can handle water depth, like Volvo can handle Offroad.
A Spacerocket can go to the Moon for 200 milion, but my Bike can go the same distance for Free...
I started watching the page because of volvo content. But as I got into 4wd i learned Volvo won't get you out very far.
The clearance was OK you also have frond camera
Ahhhmmmm, ya need the correct tires, then it’ll do better....