Is Marvel Snap Still Fun?
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- I've noticed a lot of my friends have stopped playing Snap and.. I can understand why. I've also been slowly losing interest for a variety of reasons so today I'm going to breakdown some of the feelings I've had with Snap.
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marvel snap is starting to fill like a job instead of a game.
This is how like any gacha game is 😔 and the aspect of the spotlight caches has made this a gacha game
Perfect way to describe it
I’m not there yet but I know from my experiences with Hearthstone and Genshin Impact that it’s coming. The obligatory logins for missions turn into obligatory logins for daily stuff (credits in shop/ daily gold pass). I’m not there yet but I can see the end is near.
The fun is gone that we played previously it is slowly turning into those Chinese blotware game
Yup, spotlight cache is just like do job application
Great video. I think you did a great job representing many people's feelings about the game. In my experience, videos like this are rarely "CZcams suicide" as you put it. People love to know someone is looking out for them.
I think Marvel Snap's biggest problem is that it's most fun when you don't play a ton, but the economy demands you play a ton to keep up. If you want to spend money to help keep up while playing less, too bad, they make spending feel terrible.
So that model just excludes a lot of people from the optimal experience with the game.
They need new ways to play that make it feel better to play more, or they need to make spending feel better.
Wow thanks Regis! I was super nervous about putting this one out. Means a lot to hear from you and a few other creators that have dropped by to share their feelings on the current state of snap.
Hope SD hires the Duels team from HS and we get a Snap Duels 🤣
@@Drewberry_Gamingthis is an incredible video. Echoes my feelings and obviously many, many others. Way to call it out!!
@@Drewberry_GamingNGL id hope not duels was terrible
The least fun i ever had was hitting Infinite super early this season (day 2 I think). Normally I had something to chase all season. This season was completely demotivating, and I think Conquest is a TRASH TIER mode, so what was the point in playing.
Fortunately, this is a good season for homebrew to be competitive. But when you get oppressive lockdown meta's or other overturned periods it feels pointless to paly as you are just (no offense to creators) playing people who just copy and paste creator decks with no creativity of their own, '"because they win".
The biggest problem is that they constantly change cards to make point slamming the best way to play. But that’s the most boring version. It’s like hearthstone making always going face the best way to play.
The monetization has made playing the game a lot less fun because there's no sense of progress. Any rewards I earn don't actually build to anything due to the wildly inflated prices. I still enjoy the core game, but trying to get new cards or even variants of any kind feels like a chore.
THIS. This right here. You put into words what I have been feeling for about 4-6 months now……
I feel this!
In all honesty, I'm not enjoying myself as I used to.
Which shocks me since I've been playing daily since oct 2022, reached recently CL10k+ and finally got the variants I dreamed with cool borders and all and all...
If it wasn't for you and the other youtubers that I follow, I would've stopped a while ago. You have a way of presenting this game that makes it very entertaining for me to be a part of. I thank you for it. But the direction this game is heading for and the lack of familiar super heroes releases (it was bound to run out sooner or later), I feel that I want to spend my time doing something else. :)
Was gonna say the same thing... We appreciate the heck out of ya @Drewberry
Yeah u had me until unfamiliar characters. You just want mainstream characters? That’s asking to be bored. You would be way more interested if you actually looked into the characters
I'm still enjoying it because I love card games but with how expensive even the most basic offer is it makes it really hard to keep up since they don't give you any new cards. All the new cards are super expensive and if you screw up on a spot like cash because the card didn't turn out to be good, you're screwed for at least a couple months
You’re shocked that playing the same game every day for 18 months got boring?
The unfamiliar characters will continue because they release new cards WAY TOO OFTEN now. A new character every week is 52 characters/cards a year. That’s not counting those times when we get two new cards a week too. Just wait till we get Ms. Lion from Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends as a card! Exciting? Or even better, how about Paul?
At some point, it just becomes less feasible to keep releasing cards at that rate (and all at series 5 likely the way they’re going). You have to come up with unique abilities and you have to play test those abilities against the whole deck to be sure interactions work correctly and aren’t busted. It’s going to get harder and harder to do that.
A new card every two weeks is a better rate and would make it easier to collect, and help sustainability and still allow for meta changes just not as often. The weekly changes are way too quick IMO.
I agree completely with what you said, honestly surprised you didnt mention anything about the rise in bugs and glitches which just add more fuel to the fire. In particular, the end button not working, the app itself crashing randomly from time to time, everything just comes together and makes it all the more frustrating and not want to deal with it anymore. Just kinda sad to see the game go on a downwards spiral
OMG I should’ve mentioned the bugs. The main screens on mobile are nearly unplayable. Then there’s the end then bug etc so brutal.
My CL is 15,691. I have been playing since they had a beta in only a few countries. Theres one word for me that summarizes Marvel Snap, Stingy. Even grinding out to get new cards feels like a chore because the systems they have currently are a GRIND and even when you do grind its still never enough. Id love to see some more game modes and id love to see more ways to get various currency keys, gold, credit and boosters. Like alot of people are paying them 10 dollars a month we should see some trickle down in the economy. The 100 dollar cosmetics are dumb but im sure some people buy em. I would of loved to see more free emotes too like maybe they have a freebie emote you get to pick once a month between 3 random emotes. Gets people excited and the game is great because for me I love Marvel. Anyways. I feel ya man, keep on Snapping everyone...
Trust me. Whales are not spending too much. I don't see many of those $100 variants around, because they are not great nor give a different experience in gameplay
@@astralwerkno whales are definitely spending.
They should just let people buy what they want that's it
@@conservativecarnage3783they are indeed! But that guy is like “I haven’t seen those expensive variants so no one is buying them.’
There’s games that I’ve played that where a lot more of a grind than this like clash of clans, clash Royale and wwe supercard.
they need series drops. they need a new game mode. they need to look at the spotlights. the game is still the best card game you can play but we need to expect more. thanks drew! hope we don’t lose you as you are one of my favorite content creators!
They have had series drops every month. They can only do them once a month due to the limitations of Twitch (but also they dont want to constantly giveaway free stuff anyway)
As someone who has played daily since day 1, I’m starting to think ima call it quits. The way they offer their bundles and cards acquisition in general is mind boggling. No way they stay afloat in the long run. I also don’t feel comfortable spending money on anything with all the wild changes they make to cards that give no compensation.
Also infinite ladder is boring af.
For me I still enjoy the core game, and bundles are optional, I do want to buy some though, but then it's ridiculously expensive on top of the fact that it feels so random what they jumble together.
There's no consistency, some have credits, some have tokens, some have gold tokens no credit, some have credit gold no tokens ...
It's like at LEAST be consistent
@@jackkawf4449 the game is so Inconsistent. Idk how a new player could ever get started with this game in its current state
@@jackkawf4449The For You bundles are what you're asking for. They're consistent and decent value comparable to regular bundles.
Infinite ladder is filled with Agatha bots or just try hard lol.
They should have just stopped trying to be unique and do whatever other card game does make sets and booster packs. It's easier to get cards that way. And if you really like a set you can put in like $100 and get the whole thing. Then there would be a crafting system and then you could make whatever cards you wanted by getting rid of the cards you don't want
We need Draft mode in marvel snap, that would be fun and different.
Honestly.... if they give us a Draft mode, that might be the only mode I play. I wouldnt mind. Thry probably wont though because a lot of people are like me and if a draft mode unlocks all the cards, even though its random, it would probably cut down on some of that FOMO profit. But I really hope they give us a draft mode. I'm so sick of ladder and conquest. I dint even play once I get all the rewards I want.
Sadly I'm 90% sure draft mode will never happen.
Players will take how long to draft cards?
How many seconds per draft will player get?
Then you still have play a game or rounds after drafting
@@edwinb4201 it could just be something you play with friends
Would love to have a draft mode as well. Banning 2 cards, 1 for each player then give 1.5min timer for both players to construct their deck
@@edwinb4201drafting a 12 card deck would take less than 3 minutes
came for the characters, stayed for the gameplay, almost left because of the monetization, came back for drewberry😁
I've been a consistent viewer of yours since I started playing Marvel Snap but this video gave me a newfound respect for you. What you said needs to be said and I'm glad someone with your platform and position is speaking on it. You sir have more than earned my subscription! Hopefully, it helps a little.
Thank you!! Honestly this means a lot. I was nervous to put this video out because a lot of loyal viewers love snap. Really appreciate the kind words and support! 👊
You’re the only guy I actually consistently watch for marvel snap because you’re real and not as sensationalized as a lot of other content creators I feel similarly as you do it’s still my favorite game but I want to spend on the game and I’m priced out and the fomo usage is just kinda insane and annoying sometimes . Also why did they have that whole thing about voting for the clan mode name if they weren’t close to rolling that out? We need it bad
Totally agree DB, on all points…I’m so tired of them sending out new cards that are series 5…unless it’s a shitty card, then make it series 4. But, in order to get new cards, you need 4 spotlights, in order to guarantee, that new card…and it’s a huge grind…or spend 6K tokens, which takes a long time to accumulate …I don’t play as much…and jumped back to HS, instead. Thanks for the video.
We havebt had series 4 in a while, even hercules was series 5. They abandoned that for sure
Series drops might only be feasible if cards always release at 5. Dunno.
i dont believe in series drop anymore @@looplooplooplooploop
@@looplooplooplooploopBut they said they're only going to do series drops like two times a year. So you get two free cards every year when they released like 50 new cards a year
@@williammclean6594 We have 1-2 more this year, to be exact. I'm not voucher for it, just theorizing why it might be that way. Though they've said that Nuverse has final say on series.
This is extremely relatable feeling towards marvel snap, im glad you made a video like this. Definitely interested in marvel rivals too, ill be toning in on that content as well. Your my favorite snap content creator for sure, this video felt real and not lend by an agenda.
My main problems:
- No new game mode for a long time. Would love a draft mode
- The updates that they announced coming to the came several months ago are still not in it, big sad.
- Everything feels pay to win
- I love how you put it, fear of missing out. Hits home for me
I feel ya...there has been a distinct shift in the game and myself as well. I used to climb ladder and now I'm just doing the bare minimum daily...
Last time I got infinite was the Guardians season. Still probably my favorite card back but now I basically just go to the mystery variant... maybe the gold reward and then stop caring.
Dont feel pressured to play daily, its fine to miss some quests, just play whenever you feel like playing :)
I was thinking recently, how the hell are new players supposed to get into this game? I'm like 14k collection and play pretty religiously and I STILL have to pick and choose what new cards I get. Also maybe im tripping but I swear they said somewhere a few months ago that there would be at least 1 series 4 card per month going forward? nice joke.
Yup. 12k CL, played since day 1 launch. I feel about the same. It took me 5 and half months to become series 3 complete and that was when I spent all my gold on credits and missions to level my CL as fast as possible. Back when we got LOADS of gold every week just from playing. Now I'm lucky if I get enough gold for a variant every 1.5 weeks. Personal choice since gold bundles are too expensive to grind for and they dont tell us in advance enough which bundles are coming out. I prefer the instant gratification of getting variants. But anyway, yeah I can't imagine how it is being a new player.. its must take longer to becomes series 3 complete now! Dure they get series 4 and 5 cards faster... but the bulk of most decks are series 3 cards. At this point they may as well just give everyone series 3 complete the moment they finish the "tutorial" section of the pool 1 and 2 cards.
And you are not tripping. I remember them saying they wanted at least 1 series 4 per month of spotlights.
not havin a series drop in plans or cool gold bundles for new players doesn't feel even worth it imo
I tried to make 2nd account and goddamn how boring grinding series 2 (imagine brand new player into snap just because they want red guardian or new cards). Didn't play 2nd account again. My first account is only 11k.
There was never a promise or guarantee that there would always been a series 4 per month.
@@TaskMaster5 so what, since december i only remember Havok and Miek being series 4
lets be honest at least 4 cards could have been series 4 since then
that's a lot of token difference
the cost don't drop just like the series
so what's the problem on pointing out whats in plain sight?
Its good to voice these opinions, I think we see them a lot from players but less so from creators so it's nice to see my own feelings around the game be represented here in what you had to say. Snap has a great game concept but it has gotten a bit stale with time, and as such my time with the game, spending habits, and content creation have all decreased pretty significantly.
Their monetization push would def be a lot more palatable if we saw other meaningful things being added to the game, but it feels like outside of some customization stuff the game hasn't grown much. I hope they find a way to bring some life back into the community, because due to the structure of this games progression once creators start leaving (and a few already have) it seems harder for people to fill that void compared to other games. Kept it up Drew, your content is great and im sure that will be true even if you venture into non snap stuff.
I don't usually watch Snap streamers, but I want to say thank you for saying what so many people are feeling.
Been looking forward to this video. Thanks for speaking your truth.
It’s the truth, no such thing as your truth or my truth.
For me, it’s not as fun when I run into a destroy deck 10 billion times in a row, I wanna see a variety
and they keep improving it
Right? It’s everywhere! I remember Glenn saying they’ve been looking at those decks a few months(?) ago? Guess they’re still looking…
Sorry bro its all i can afford and it ranks me up well T.T im tired of playing it too
Destroy really needs some changes to make it feel more unique. I think if they introduced some kind of new boss card for destroy that changed up the play style, it would be incredibly beneficial. I’m imaging a dynamic similar to discard where you have a few different boss monsters (hela and apocalypse in the case of discard) that allow you to build multiple unique decks with a very similar core
Yes for me destroy is so location based it feels stupid, like oh you got cloning valts, I guess I will leave, oh I got wakand, I guess you will leave,
I propose that they put more 4 series cards in the spotlight caches, also make so that the mysterious card you get always is one don't have
They should honestly just get rid of the mystery card altogether. I bet going from needing 4 keys to 3 keys to guarantee a card would make the process smoother.
Nice joke
I have a lot of thoughts but a big thing for me is that almost all of my friends quit the game months ago and it really diminishes my enjoyment to not have people to talk with about it. Player retention isn't just a SD problem, it's also a community issue.
I quit months back. I feel a lot better and less anxious. It was right when they decided to keep Darkhawk in series 4 when it was supposed to get dropped. I was riding the high of buying Darkhawk for 1k tokens, but as soon as that wasnt an option anymore, i quit.
On the flip side a lot of the online content is getting boring even quicker so it’s actually refreshing to hear someone being genuine and sharing something original and fresh… So thank you!! 🙏🏼
Man I really feel u Now the playing almost becoming a routine, I buy the seasonpass ignore all other stupid bundles, get to infinite in days and finish the missions one time at a day（not interested in the game just feel obligate to do so）,when the season is coming to an end I spend 2days in the conquest mode and get the variant, that's pretty much it. The passion is long gone, just don't want to drop the hard built account.
I am the same way! I started in October, skipped the first two months of the passes, but bought the rest up till now. I think the bundles are ridiculous, I only but gold bundles, those are rare now though. I get to infinite each season and grind conquest the last couple days. Quite a grind
I definitely have a love/hate relationship with this game.
My CL is almost 13k and I used to absolutely love this game. It's been very frustrating me a lot the passed couple of months.
With you 100%. I'm mostly F2P, buy the occasional season pass, but no other cash on the game. Definitely tired of the direction of monetization. SD just seems to get greedier with each change. I understand they need to make $ and agree with your thought process of whales supporting the game with these crazy priced bundles, but it's just insanity. Also agree with being bored after reaching infinite. First few days of the season are the best, then it just tails off once I hit infinite, waiting for the next season to start and do it all over. Conquest doesn't excite me. I play enough to earn the variant and get the better resources in there, but that's about it. Don't care about the infinite avatar borders. I have two, but I only use the default faceless avatar, so no need to bother with it. Playtime has definitely tailed off the last few seasons, as it's becoming less fun. Sad to see where it's headed.
Love your stuff Drew.
Personally had been feeling very frustrated with the game for a few months and haven't played in ages. (Can't say I miss it, which is a shame but the game is super expensive now)
Still pop in to watch your stuff and if you were to switch things up I'd totally be there for it!
Thank you Skrunch! Hearing that you’ll stick around even if I try something new means so much. Honestly just so thankful to have folks like you around.
Like I said, not done yet, but for me personally there’s a lot of pressure on the next patch! We’ll keep trucking along and I’ll keep everyone updated 😄
@@Drewberry_Gaming I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I follow you because of *you*, not because of the game you're playing. You've got a great personality and always seem so down to earth, which I appreciate :)
Do whatever suits you best, so long as you're enjoying yourself as that should be #1!
I’m still enjoying the game, but I think I’m on a very similar page as you. The time I’m spending in the game is way lower than it has been since I started.
I don’t have the energy or enthusiasm for lots of Conquest anymore. Post-Infinite Ranked is pretty boring. That leaves me playing once or twice a day to knock out missions - which is when the game starts to feel like a chore. I used to play so much (because the game was fun!) that I’d finish most missions incidentally.
Hard to put my finger on “what’s wrong”, but I think you nailed a lot of it. We get balance changes 3 out of every 4 weeks, but they make such little impact that they’re mostly not exciting. Cards are so expensive that it feels like being punished when you buy a card that turns out to be weak or boring.
Lauren! Thank you for dropping by and sharing!! I’m with you, the enthusiasm is lost and the ‘chore’ feeling is all too real lately.
I’m sure the team is cooking up some fun stuff and don’t want to drop it too early but I really hope we see something new soon!
@@Drewberry_Gaming Totally with you. I have faith in the team… but it’s been a long drought.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. The sentiments expressed are real and shared by many. Not inappropriately negative at all. Well done!
0:31 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣 we love tf outta you Drew haha keep it real brudda 👑💯
Aww bdawg. You sweetheart. ❤
I play quite a bit of marvel snap. I've never seen your channel before. CZcams suggested this video and the fact that you removed monetization end just spoke your mind was refreshing. I appreciate your thoughts and insights I like the fact that you're very well balanced and admit that it's not always them and sometimes you. I have subscribed and I look forward to following no matter what game you play! Thank you
Honestly ive been feeling the exact same way, its becoming stale even the metas are repetitive. The last new archetype we got were maybe loki or high evo? Which is crazy considering they literally come out with new cards every week, sometimes two a week.
Yeah. That is my main problem with the game. It feels like same decks all the time with some minor changes. I miss that feeling from other card games when an expansion drops with lot of cards thet reshuffle meta or add archetypes to a much bigger degree than in snap
Thanks Drew, that's what we love about you, is your honesty. I've come to the same spot, I feel like I'm running on a treadmill and getting nowhere. I've got 35,000+ Gold and 25,000+ Tokens and nothing of value to spend them on. The new Ms. Minutes Emot says it all...complete boredom... BTW I took a recent survey from them and one of the questions made it sound like that they may be considering in raising the cost of the Season Pass. If that does happen then I'm gone. Plus there's some new games recently released, which I plan to check out, and if they pull me in then Marvel Snap probably will get shelved. Keep up the great work and content. Cheers!
THANK YOU! I’m elateddd that you & other creators are starting to speak out against the monetization in this game bc it’s getting absurd. The prices are absolutely LUDICROUS- you can buy whole games for half the price of some of these bundles. BUT, the most messed up part imo is how the cards you buy with tokens can lose all of their value overnight, out of the blue.
first time viewer, never played Marvel Snap or Hearthstone. I just thought about this game randomly and was wondering where this game was at. This was the first video that came up, great vid!
Thank you Shakeel 😄 appreciate you droppin by!
I stopped giving them any money after realizing how many good cards I was missing even with the season pass.
And btw, this game is very p2w with how exclusive 6000 tokens are. Collector Reserves trickle so few tokens, it´s like trying to carry water with a fork.
Spotlight keys are also rare enough that I will not spend them unless there´s at least 2 cards that I want, and when I pull one of them, I will not risk pulling for the other.
Nah, Loki was my last season pass, and i´m f2p struggling since then. And ofc, I am missing soo many meta cards, I don´t even care about most new cards, unless they look OP.
You can perform at high ranks with a fairly basic collection, so yeah no
@looplooplooplooploop Its not about performance. Its about fun vs the grind. Second Dinner does not seserve your defense of them. The game is pay to win, pay to have fun, pay for convenience or whatever other phrase you'd prefer. If you dont throw money at the game, at least on the season pass, this game will make you want to play Russian Roulette by yourself.
It's intriguing. The more I listened to you in your video, the more I identified. 100% agree with you on everything. Sometimes I feel compelled to play to avoid losing the new cards instead of having fun. as if it were a job. The game needs new game modes, otherwise people will end up getting bored. You are a very genuine guy. I would like you to continue with your content.
Thanks for your time man. I value your thoughts and opinions, and really enjoy your content. Keep doing what you are passionate about, you are appreciated.
I feel myself in a similar boat. I started only last September and completely stopped around the end of January. I still love the game and continued watching videos on it. But the monetization just made it nearly unplayable. The natural way of getting cards means there will almost always be two cards released for every one new card you get without spending money on extra credits. Impossible to catch up and you’re never guaranteed a good card. I just started playing again bc of a friend getting into it but I’m already feeling the fatigue.
Great video and appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us
I’m glad someone is doing a let’s talk about this cause I’ve been feeling the same way. My passion is slowly fading after hitting a year back in March. Bundles ramped up for more cash than gold, all new cards starting at Series 5, the updated store patch for both better and worse changes. Definitely couldn’t blame you for seeking something else down the road with how the state of the game is currently.
I totally agree, i stopped playing December/January. I was a day one player, i always hitted Infinity and grinded Conquest and one day outta Nowhere it felt like i hit a wall i couldnt hit Infinity no more. It frustated me that there i could not compete against all meta cards because it's hard to get them for myself, that's why i stopped. Now i am back playing and already regretting it because i have missed every important card out there... It's very frustating so yeah fomo is real.😢
i appreciate the honesty. i've always enjoyed your content and disposition and i wish you the best no matter what you do. If you're still producing content on YT i'll be watching! be well
I'm gonna be fair... i thinking of quitting... is too time and money consuming, the game is fire but it feels like a drug... always more pricey and jet more taxing
How is it time consuming? Dailies take 10 minutes and you can't grind.
It really feels like a drug.
Thank you for voicing your thoughts! I believe lots of us feel the same. Not everyone is willing to be open about it. Thank you!
Man. Thank you for this Drewberry! The monetization has been outta hand, the shop overall needs work, the spotlights need a rework, the collections (which I actually love) need to be more player friendly. All in all I am still have fun with the game. However some days, I will only open up the app to collect my resources and look at my variants and close the app.
This video really summed up a lot of my feelings about the game the past couple of months. it's just felt like a slog. Particularly since I don't enjoy conquest at all, so there's no real variety in how to play. I think vids like this are important. If people don't voice their concerns this game won't last very long, and you did a great job explaining some of the issues i'm sure a lot of people are facing right now
Agree with pretty much every point you've made - I'm a season pass gamer - CL 13.5K and I'm not sure I want to stay on the hamster wheel anymore.
Every patch is riddled with bugs, the spotlights are a potential punishing dice roll every week, resources are too hard to come by, and series drops are almost non existent ( 1 or 2 per year is nowhere near enough).
The removal of the future spotlights and bundles from the data mines is another thing that doesn't sit right with me either. Having no agency or the ability to make plans for the future releases (along with everything else you've touched on) has diminished my interest in this game to the lowest it's ever been.
Balancing games like this is very difficult another game similar was Dragon Quest Rivals in Japan. They had to go to a playset of 2 instead of 1 to help that game live another 4 years.
So we've seen things like that happen before, if second dinner isn't willing to up playsets only true way to balance this game is to add choice restrictions. For players who don't know what this is, if you put card A into a deck you can't have card B and viscera. Example can be if you have sunspot in a deck you can't have nebula, this feels like it'd be an easy answer to the dry meta. Also releasing cards in series 5 constantly is hurting this game alot their 52 series 5 cards from now to July as series 4 is at 24.
marvel rivals cant come soon enough lol. because I took a big ass break after November. you've been really fair on the game drew.
Amazing video!!! Really love the content that drewberry puts out, really informative content and genuine opinions. As a semi-whale myself, I have to say the content of snap is way way too expensive, and I mostly buy bundles because I really enjoy the game and love the cosmetic art. The money to in game currency ratio is just way too high and beyond what I would guess most peoples value threshold is. Also as someone who plays a wide variety of decks, I have also found myself increasingly bored with ebb and flow of the meta as well!
Great video! I think there are more people out there that feel like you than you realize, and that's something SD should take note of, or they will see a lot of their player base leave in the foreseeable future if they continue down this path.
Love the video and I totally agree with you drew, although the only thing is that the communication isn’t amazing at all. Unless you’re saying it’s amazing when people ask questions on discord, that’s the only time it’s good. Apart from that, they do such a bad job at publishing stuff on twitter, instagram, etc.., they really need to improve all of this
It’s a tough one to answer but I feel fortunate to be in the content creator program cause they do a pretty good job at communicating there as well as answering questions from the discord. The guys I mentionned here imo do a great job but I agree, their marketing team does a TERRIBLE job and their customer support is awful. Sadly I don’t think all these teams communicate with each other and it shows
The most fun I ever had with a mobile ccg was Gwent and that's because you could unlock all of the cards just by playing the game. If marvel snap made card acquisition better by making it possible to feasibly unlock the cards and gave the whales their special variants that they can buy it would make the game feel significantly better
Appreciate you, Drew! Not just the video, but your reluctance to be negative especially. After two years, losing interest is to be expected, I think, regardless of monetization issues. I’ve experienced it as well, and I just started spending way less (now I only buy the Season Pass).
Love watching your content, though, so I hope you don’t get bored of it before I do!
Im in the club that isnt bothered by monetization because i only buy the pass and dont even look at the other offers. You make good content you are likable and great at presenting information. If you move to another game I'd check it out. I would enjoy this game a lot more if it didn't constantly crash. I play another game that I do spend some money on but with this game being barely functional I'm feeling like the 15$ I spend on the pass is starting to not be worth it.
Drew, massive respect for posting this you have captured my thoughts and feelings on the game currently. The monetisation of the game is massive problem and it's now detracting from the game itself. This is very sad to see. There is a need to freshen up cards releases as well as it's easy too hard to get new cars and this is a big reason why I play and enjoy the game.
Could not agree more. The monetization, the constant bugs, the way it feels like it's the same thing over and over and over. I think my time with the game is starting to come to an end as well.
Appreciate the honesty! This season in particular has been tough - other than Red Hulk the new cards haven't been too exciting, and the monetization is honestly a joke. Now that I'm S3 complete, getting any new cards is going to be a ridiculous grind. But the next batch of cards is looking more exciting, so I'm holding out for that.
I really enjoy your informative content and just your whatever video in general. Imo, the game has really been more boring and I notice myself not spending as much time to play anymore. Who knows if I might end up quitting soon as well lol. Anyway, keep doing what you like, it doesn't matter to me if you happen to switch a kind of content to something else, I'll continue supporting you man!
This video is so on point 👌 good work
I kinda feel it. I always see that add with a Brode saying “what if you couldn’t just come into the game, drop hundreds of dollars and get all the cards” and all I can think is “bro people can’t even get all the cards even if they’re spending hundreds of dollars anyway”
Thank you for this video, it really resonated with me as I’m sure it did with many of your viewers. Marvel Snap just isn’t as fun as it used to be and the monetization with the extra card per month and every new card coming out as series 5 is really frustrating and just comes off as greedy. And for all the money they seem to be getting, it doesn’t seem like the players are seeing much being done for the game.
I started a month ago, cl600, and so far I’m loving it. I totally get people talking about grinding cards, I currently only have only 2 decks I actually play constantly, but the zones keep the game extremely fresh. I’d love some achievement system for long term progression but even after finishing all daily stuff I still find myself playing bc it’s so fun.
I couldn’t agree more. If you’re not spending money, you’re not getting all the cards, and if you’re not getting all the cards, you feel bad. 😞 It’s rough.
500th 👍 just bragging on myself. Keep up the great work DB!
All the innovation in the last year have been put towards the economy. I really wish they would put some of their resources towards gameplay and customer service.
We love how transparent and real you are Drew. All the points you made are incredibly valid. I stopped playing cause I was getting incredibly bored. There hadn't been new content for months. It's year two and they STILL only have two game modes with no new ones teased in the roadmap. They said clans is coming but I have this feeling it'll just end up feeling as boring and repetitive as ranked ladder or infinite ranked latter. I also felt the game felt like it was becoming too expensive (yes I could ignore the bundles as a lot of people mentioned but I actually wanted to buy some of the stuff that they released but really couldn't stomach paying their prices). I get that they have to make profits, I really don't need to hear anyone's explanation that it's a company and they need to make money- just because they do, doesn't mean that continuously increasing the prices is a good thing for a huge portion of the player base.
As you mentioned it seems the game is now completely targeted at Whales or Streamers who can write-off their purchases. To me that's a bad sign for any game. I've seen numerous streamers actually quit the game because they felt it was getting too expensive and I appreciate you pointing this out when a lot of other streamers seem to turn a blind eye.
Lastly I think the overall game experience for me is just awful. They started to release cards like Zemo, which sparked an increase in the playrate of truly annoying cards (Gladiator, Yondu, Cable). Whose purpose is to stop you from being able to draw your cards. What I want to know is - who thought this would create a fun gaming experience?! It feels like they're designing cards like Loki and Zemo just to piss people off and stop wanting to play the game. I'm sure its fun for some but I would bet it annoyed the crap out of others. To the point they just thought "screw this I'm done".
Anyway, appreciate your honest take on the state of the game. Even if I don't play the game I still really enjoy the content you make, and a lot of others do so we hope you stick around even if the game is literally in the toilet right now!
To me, my growing discontent comes from that the two "new features" added to the game have been albums + emotes, and then custom borders. Albums and emotes were a flop for me, mostly because of how they were tied together, making them basically unobtainable as a f2p (+season pass) player, so it is a nothing feature to me. I have been actively collecting Jim Lee variants since I started playing during the Wakanda season, Jim Lee Colossus was my FIRST VARIANT, and I still only have 11/12 in the Jim Lee album. Imagine if you could get emotes 1/50 collection caches, maybe replacing a bubble. They could have actually been a part of the game and the community culture. Now they are just badges that say, I spent around 14 thousands gold on variants. You're supposed to see the other player's grind reward and it make you feel like you want to chase after it to. I always just go, well, good for them I guess, not something I'll ever have.
Additionally, the albums were not at all what I expected them to be, which were showcases of complete themes. Not 12 random selection of sub themes. Why do some of Dan Hipps count and some don't, why should I ever care about my collection of Ink Pulp variants when most of them come from gold bundles and spotlight caches and therefore are ineligible for albums. It just feels arbitrary and random, making the effort (or money!) not worth it.
Custom Borders simply is an unfinished feature with no purpose in its current state, and then it will be barely a feature when it finally gets a slight improvement next month. With the UI that they already have, it simply is not difficult to make it easy to move unlocked "components" between variants and mix and match. And they only didn't do it because they thought they didn't/wouldn't have to, and the fact they are dragging their feat to give us HALF of that feature is absurd to me. I assume the only reason they are taking so long is because they haven't figured out a way to monetize the new split effects yet, and like emotes they hate the idea of even giving anything out to people for playing the game without paying the game.
Not to mention the disaster week of bugs with USAgent's release, and the pathetic mea culpa that punished people not for exploiting the bug. I've said this is other places, but SD's only actually limited product is the goodwill in the community. There are infinite spotlight keys and credits, but if they lose the player's sympathy and interest, then they will really start to lose money.
... and they still haven't mentioned card mastery since the trailer like 4 or 5 months ago. Nothing they actually have released make me optimistic it won't just be another feature for whales.
Love you content DB. Fresh and different from the countless "this is the best deck" stuff out there. I think they should find a way to make progression matter. I will never forget the thrill of not having all the cards and opening a collectors cache and "BOOM!" there is Deadpool. I miss that the most.
I think the frequent, wild swings in the meta make the game less fun.
There can be a deck you like, that is competitive, then suddenly it will be tweaked and become basically unusable overnight, for seemingly no reason. Everyone just ends up playing a small collection of archetypes, or mostly losing
There is always a reason. What change that you got “no reason” on?
Unless its DESTROY! Then it never gets tweaked unless its a positive change... I personally hate playing the archetype, but I understand why so many people do play it. Its very versatile and I dont think it has ever experienced nerfs. Everyone else gets shafted.
@@An.Unsought.Thought it’s been touched multiple times
@calibrexdaoc By no reason he means no good reason. Cards like Forge, Beast, Black Widow, Viper, Psylocke, Angela(recently reverted), probably more that I can't think of right now. But theh focus on cards nobody was complaining about while ignore cards people did complain about for a long time. Seems like a waste of resources to me.
They need card restrictions that rotate constantly. Like imagine hela, alioth and Ironman are banned for like 3 days, the meta would feel so fresh without any patches or OTA or anything major and it would encourage different “unusual” decks thrive for some times and you’d have to change your tactic regularly
Even if you "only" pay for the Season Pass ever month, it still alot of money to spend on only one game in a year! And what do you get if you pay all this money in a year? Well you get under half of all the new cards released! SD is seriously thinking that we should pay 3-400 dollars a year to keep up?
Thanks for the video, the information, and your opinions.
Completely agree. I went from playing every single day, to not even wanting to jump in and complete dailies. It's more a chore instead of a fun time. I want a wild and fun game mode where we get to play cards that aren't usually played. Draft, random generation modes I don't care just something new and different that gets us excited to play again.
Something they could easily do to freshen up the game would be to completely change the locations. Throw out all the old ones and create new ones from scratch.
Everyone in the whole ecosystem would get a whole new game experience without any changes to cards or feeling unable to keep ahead.
I kind of think folks like Glen are trapped by not having enough time too, but anyway, I do agree with you. The game is stale and they aren’t really doing much to change things up.
Glad you took the opportunity to share your thoughts. As a player AND a creator, I’d imagine dealing with a game you’re losing some enjoyment for would be tough.
Been playing F2P since launch. I don’t mind the monetization. I don’t buy the pass for cards, so I can ignore the cosmetic bundles. Even bundles that sell keys and tokens aren’t likely to make too much of an impact for their buyers in terms of card acquisition.
I do agree that the game can get a bit boring. I like to hit infinite in the first 2-3 days to get it out of the way. I’d been trying to motivate myself to keep a high rank, but there’s no real point. Once I beat an infinity conquest months ago, I lost interest in trying to do that again as well. A refresher on the rewards for completing that would be nice (inked avatars? Card borders? Intro voice lines?). Now I just grind PG for the shop items.
I do like to collect strong cards and variants and and upgrade their borders and that still keeps me coming back. But I know that since we’re likely only to get Series 5 cards the rest of the year, it’s going to become increasingly difficult to get as many cards as I’d like.
Maybe the teased leagues or clan modes will breathe some fresh air into the game, but I get the strange feeling those modes will breed toxicity.
I mean it's just insane even at the beginning of the year when they started giving us 15$ bundles go look at the gold and credits you got dor the first few months and now go and look at the doctor octopus 15$ bundle and the fact that literally every bundle is at least 15$ and up now and not 10$ minimum anymore which they used to have a ton of. Fuck second dinner.
Thanks for this video Drew.
I feel the same and will take a break after completing the season pass.
Agree with you on the monetization aspect; their quest to build out tons of S5 cards for the eventual series drops keeps cars acquisition slow for a majority of the base; they must have data to tell them that’s how they maximize the LTV for a user.
The cards they release that are mid-level effects should not cost 6K tokens out of the gate.
I love playing Silky Smooth with it back in the Meta but I definitely have noticed I’m playing less between more irl plans popping up and the weekly cards not being excited at all. Will probably have an uptick in play with White Widow release.
My biggest complaint is the Spotlight Cache system. I have purchased the battle pass for about 8 seasons. I have used so many keys getting variants that I don't want, instead of featured cards that I really need. Why not let players trade in 1 key for 1 card, simple as that? I get that Snap wants to make money, but some of the hoops they make you jump through is wild. Example: Instead of that Red Hulk you wanted, you get 100 tokens... Great just another 2900 tokens to go. They need to give more power to the players.
great video thanks drew
I‘m happy that I don‘t have to spend money on bundles as I don‘t miss out on anything that‘s really necessary. I‘m fine with passing on extra gold, tokens, credits variants…and as a player who‘s almost collection complete I either have enough keys to get new cards or have the tokens if I don‘t have enough keys so that the card acquisition system doesn‘t feel too bad to me. I can see why people are mad over the card acquisition system or the monetization but just as you said I also ignore all of this and have a great time playing snap.
Drew, that's because you live in a place where from my perspective the prices are a little cheaper. I've already commented on other channels, but here in Brazil, all these bundles cost 5x more. Which from our economic perspective is very, very expensive. Any bundle that costs, for example, $100 here is R$500. And with that I think, should I really spend it on this when I can buy a triple A game for PS5 and still have R$200 left over? The values practiced in Marvel Snap need to be reviewed and good economic, fun and rewarding practices inserted into the game. As a colleague said here in the chat. Marvel Snap is almost becoming a job rather than a game to entertain us.
Dude it's nuts for new players my son wanted to play and I was stoked for that (I started day one) and holy crap it's way harder for him then it ever was for me to grind and climb that he just gave up 😞
Really appreciate you making this video, Drewberry. Expressed all of the F2P players frustrations.
I use pixie
THIS
shhh, don't let people know they'll get her nerfed
Gotta be honest though, I feel like Ravonna decks are better than Pixie decks lol.
@@An.Unsought.Thought yeah but is ravona as random and fun post infinite as a pixie deck ?
I feel you on this. I've skipped most of the recent cards and honestly haven't missed them. I'm also pretty fatigued by the constant stream of overpriced bundles in the shop and those emotes really didn't help matters at all.
As for the meta as a whole - I really think Snap faces a medium to long term issue with the 12-card deck. I see some creators putting out deck lists and taking credit for them, but honestly, with so few cards in a deck and the game as a whole, there's only so many concepts that you can build out.
I went from an avid daily player who would occasionally buy the season pass or a good value bundle to playing maybe once or twice a week within the span of the past couple months. Basically every deck or strategy that I enjoy playing is currently in a spot where its easily countered or key cards are nerfed to states that make the whole deck unplayable. Sure, I can probably put together some kind of meta list, but I often find myself missing important pieces of those decks. I even have spotlight caches stocked up so I can get the cards I want, but I still have to wait weeks or even months before that card ends up in rotation. Countering your opponent is still stronger than just playing your own thing.
I also stopped making Marvel Snap content, and this resonates with me. I'm hoping Rivals is something to look forward to.
I appreciate you sharing your perspective. I have struggled off and on with burn out with the game. The new player experience is terrible imo, I have been playing f2p since last august. I have CL 4673 and still not S3 complete. I think I am close, should hit it next month or two. I have not hit infinite yet, I probably could have but its hard to stay motivated enough for that grind. I tend to just use conquest to complete my dailies and get the rewards from that. maybe the guild system will add enough to keep things interesting, but i have my doubts.
Some changes I would suggest for dev team:
1. New game mode that rewards in-game currency to buy stuff from a shop. Allow for a f2p or whale section I.e the mode can play for free or you use gold to play for better rewards or additional tries
2. Clear cadence on card release. What I mean by this is the community should have a better idea of when they will become available in spotlight caches
3. Add social aspect in game that allows for interaction in game. This isn’t as important than more things to do in game but having some social aspect allows for more immediate deck designing amongst clans/alliances
Played since launch. Game started feeling like a job and started feeling predatory. I decided to quit the week war machine came out. I have 24 keys , 18k gold and 14k tokens sitting there when I uninstalled. I miss watching your content and cozy etc.
I'm enjoying the game, but I can understand this perspective. The last two big changes to the competition of the game were Conquest mode and the introduction of infinite ladder last summer. Power Couples and AvX were interesting experiments, and I hope they try more events like them. The leagues mode they announced for some European markets has me excited.
Yeah I kinda feel the same way tbh. I know infinite isn't everything, far from it - but I've gotten close (94 once, and usually end up around mid 80s) and so decided to try and grind to see if I could hit it and MAN it just killed my enjoyment of the game. Now I feel like I'm done with the game but ALSO I want to try and reach 100 just so I can say 'there I reached it', I don't know why I'm doing it to myself haha
Good video. Do what feels right to you. Time is too short to be doing something you do not enjoy. But I will say that we need the those whale bundles so they can support us free to play users.
Yeah im frustrated with the lack of new content as well. The monetization doesnt bother me as much but the game needs more F2P engagement stuff. Character Mastery should have been here 2 months ago. Still love the game though, hoping the new game mode coming is fun.