18 holes with illegal golf ball that only flies straight (as tested by Rick Shiels)
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- The golf CZcams don Rick Shiels recently tested the Polara Ultimate Straight golf ball which, as the name suggests, only flies straight. I thought it would be fun to take it out on the course and see if it helps me hit 18 fairways, 18 greens, and break the course record...
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What golf ball do you use - and why?
Srixon zstar... Really like the performance everywhere except off the putter face... The cover is so so soft that you get very minimal feel off the putter
Bridgestone 's , played the old e6 and e7 , Tiger seems to be happy playing them,Kuchar's ball of choice for years now.
Chrome soft x triple track cuz I’m shite at putting
Snell MTB-X
Was using just anything, mostly Callaway Supersoft and Superhot then I saw the MGS golf ball test and tried these. Loved the distance and the spin from 150 and in. So I switched.
Pro V1X 'cause it's the best one
if just playing for fun, than why not use Polara? If it makes it more enjoyable for a beginner and casual player then more power to 'em.
I hope Rob comes back to making golf content soon. His videos have been the most helpful on CZcams.
This year Rob I've used Srixon AD333 tour, Srixon Ultisoft, Vice Tour and Titleist Trusofts. Also the Callaway Supersofts. All cracking good golf balls for my swing speed. The Ultisoft goes a mile but putting is not as good as the AD or Trusoft. The AD is a lovely ball to approach with. The Vice Tour is outstanding and probably up there with the Cromesoft. I use the above because that's what I've won other than the Vice which was a Christmas present. My coach only plays with PV ones, he could not believe how far he hit a supersoft when he tried one, but he hated it for approaches and putting. I really liked the Bridgestone B330 I had a few boxes of those two years ago, but there harder to ind now and bloody expensive on line.
I always line my tee shots up on a line, I think it helps with alignment!
The dimple pattern keeps the spin axis on the line but the shallow dimples on the line reduce backspin, hence the knockle balls and dropping out of the air with the low spin clubs
To be honest physics disagrees with this, as dimple patterns have nothing to do with sidespin. Dimples, regardless, will simply collect more air to spin the ball extra. If you put sidespin on a ball, it must curve, based in Gustav Magnus' laws. The only way to get a ball to fly perfectly on axis is if the ball flies with pure backspin, and dimples have so little to do with spin axis, almost 2 or 3 percent, that I find that the only way to achieve the desired flight is weighting. I'm just using my physics knowledge here, but dimples have little to do with spin axis.
@@wx811 Physics doesn't disagree, it's basic aerodynamics. It's the reason the center line has a different dimple depth and pattern than the sides. It's also why you have to line up the center line with your target. It just works the opposite to the way i thought. The shallow dimples in the center line increase spin over the center line to correct the spin axis put on the ball by the player.
I just use whatever I can find for cheap. I'm still using mostly balls that I were in the golf bag I bought used. I noticed your comment about Dechambeau and his putting antics. I just did a video on pace of play, but avoided naming any names, haha
Bonus finding balls in the bag! Ha, name and shame!
The dimple pattern has shallower dimples in the center which loses lift. Think of it like an airplane wing that has no curve on top so air pressure doesn’t hold the ball in the air properly but it’s also why the ball straightens itself in flight. The deeper dimples on the side increase air pressure on the sides and lower pressure in the center causes it to travel in the path of less resistance OE low air pressure.
But yeah they kind of take the fun out the game. And I really like the snell ball black box
I got some and hit them just as far if not farther than my titelist avx. It's amazing how straight they go. Fun to play around with.
Interesting - they were definitely a lot shorter for me!
USSR tried centered dimples on jet wing surface design. Great stability, speed, however it was too resistant to directionly changes off the line of flight. That resistance being why the design was not used on future aircraft.
It's a really cool ball in the sense that it will stay relatively straight even with swings that should clearly produce curved flight. But youre right; At the end of the round, you don't get the satisfaction of good results from YOUR skill. Good results go to the balls skill. Still, very cool product that does as it promises.
Yeah, I'm still amazed how well it works!
Typically I hit bridgestones. Now I will tell you that I buy them used because they are much cheaper. However, I am a very average golfer and I just love seeing the ball land in the middle of the fairway. I ordered a sleeve these balls to try them out, if they work I will sacrifice a little bit of distance to hit balls straight!! I actually looked up to find out why these golf balls were illegal. As it turns out, this golf ball was invented and patented in 1977 and because of its performance, the major golf ball manufactures went to the USGA to have them banned. The owner of the patent at the time, sued the USGA and multiple years later it was finally settled and they actually won the suit. If they work for me as shown in the video, I’m all in!!
callaway chrome soft. feel like i get premier ball performance and theyre a bit less expensive
Reason 1: If your spouse who never plays joins you just for fun. Let them use the balls for just the sake of joining you.
Reason 2: teaching little ones or beginners.
Reason 3: your very old grandpa who is only good for a few hole needs to get out for some quality time.
Currently using the Kirkland Signature 3-piece because of price and quality.
They should give you a job!
the hobbyist vice is cheaper and better
Pro V1x because I prefer the feel, tried many others and always come back to the pro v.
Can't go wrong with them 😀
I'm using the nike rzn platinum! Like you suggested in one of your earlier video's, I bought, I think 40 dozen of them two years ago and still have like 150 left, and they play great. Thanks so much for the advise back then! Keep up posting these great video's. I really like them.
Ha, brilliant! They sold out soon after I made that video - now I know why! 😂
I play for fun and have used the Polara Ultimate Straight balls often. I like them a lot. I usually play the same course and since I have used the Polara balls I have reduced my handicap by 5. They work as advertised! I was having a problem with slicing . . . but now hit within the fairway boundaries over 90% of the time.
How are they when you don't line it up. I don't want to be touching my ball all the time around friends.
Bridgestone B RXS, lower compression, great spin and affordable...
Alright mate I'm sure loads will have already suggested these but the callaway chrome soft are a true premium ball with great flight and feel but well under the pro v and Taylormade TP price point , give em a go might be a good idea for a vid ? Search for my new ball lol 👍🏻
All the best mate
Chris
I did play them briefly a couple of years ago and got on fine. MyGolfSpy weren't impressed in their recent balls test!
how do you know the ball doesn't have thoughts since its thoughts and you can hear someone/things thoughts?
What if I *can* hear thoughts...?
Hi Rob. I think you are right about the spin. I think the balls work by having different depth dimples (less on top and more on side) This I think means for the same amount of spin there is less lift . This will be noticed more on the lower lofted / lower spinning clubs.
It's basically weighting inside the ball, that would explain the dead straight flight but also the nosedive. That's why aligning the arrows is so crucial, because if the weighting is off center it will curve. But it will indeed nosedive because it's just too off in terms of the weighting being screwed up.
I think it's the dimples and the low spin is what makes it fall out of the sky on lower spinning clubs. They claim it'll behave like a normal ball if you don't line it up but I'm not convinced!
You have to remember that the reason a ball flies either upward, downward, or sideways is 100 percent spin. Dimples simply increase airflow, which propels it slightly farther. To say dimples affect flight patterns is completely false. It's all spin, and the only way to get the ball to spin perfectly vertically is through weighting, or a perfect swing.
I also find that since the shorter clubs worked better for distance than the longer clubs was the extra backspin, which negated some of the weight bearing down. I will have to find some way to explain this better and simpler.
But don't buy into what the market tells you. It's like Callaway dimples vs Titleist. Completely different, fly the same.
Bridgestone BRX love the feel and compression plus online but cheaper than Titleist or Taylor Made
Using Pro V1's...ive been using Srixon AD333 which are £20 a dozen and for a chopper like me they were fine. I liked the Penta and TP5 just the feel. Thinking to try the Seed they offer a Pro V alternatively at half the price. I agree its better to try stick to the same type of ball so you know the ball flight and well how it should react off the club...golf can be expensive when you lose lots of balls...Intersting video Rob. You look to be swinging it well...
I've got a few Seeds so am going to try them soon - certainly cheaper than ProV1s!
Bridgestone BX won the personal ball test. Definitely was influenced by the MyGolfSpy ball test. Trying to figure out if water logged balls is an issue or if that's manufacturer hype
Lake balls, you mean? I think it must have some effect, even if it's subtle.
Bright yellow Callaway chromesofts.
Might look at changing to a harder ball once these run out tho.
I played them for a little while a couple of years ago and quite liked them. MyGolfSpy slated them!
@@RobMcGarr haha yeah i saw that, was livid!
I've got a mate who found a ridiculous deal on gumtree for Z Stars and then won 6doz TP5, so I've got a box of each I still haven't gotten to. Usually a Srixon. Q or Z. Why? COST EFFECTIVENESS.
Hi Rob, yeah those straight balls seem pretty crap if they just drop out of the air. I generally use Callaway supersoft which are about 1/3 the price of ProVs. they don´t seem to fly quite as long as ProV1s but still go long enough and feel great around the green with plenty of check spin, as the name suggests. Also, Wilson Deep Red are a great budget priced alternative, and are surprisingly decent all round. They´re about £10 for a box of 15 balls, even over here in super expensive Norway :)
I LOVE Norway but it is bloody expensive!
@@RobMcGarr it does have that reputation yeah :D beers and food, yes, more expensive than pretty much everywhere, other stuff like golf balls, about the same price as UK (although you´d have a hard time eating a golf ball ;) )
interesting. yeah...I wouldn't walk 18 carrying all that equipment with me.
i use Srixon Z-star. Like the feel of it. At times I'll use a yellow ball depending on the hold just to be able to see it easier.
thanks for the review :-)
Why would they even be illegal. This is super crazy tech. Way better than any other ball. These should be the most expensive balls and used by the elite players.
Hi Rob, I recently tried the Seed SD-02. I really like the feel of them and their flight is also pretty nice. ProVs would probably be my ball of choice (although the ProVx seems to fly too high for me) and these seeds are not disimilar in feel. I also like the feel of the TP5's but I've not played much with them. However, I have the sensation that the Seed balls are slightly shorter that the ProV's….nothing too dramatic but perhaps 5 yards or so on a 260-280 drive. I reckon that in my hands (pockets, bag or wherever they may be) Bridgestone are the longest balls and I also like the feel of them. As you can see, I'm in the same pickle as you….If money were no object I think I would play exclusively ProV's but if money is a concern, give the Seed balls a try.....They also spin nicely and hold greens pretty well, a department in which I find many other cheaper balls fail!
I've got a few Seeds so will give them a try soon! 👍 They claim to go the max distance allowed by the USGA/R&A.
Imagine going into a local charity tournament with this ball and just setting records. Telling everyone afterwards your just a casual golfer lol
Just bought some vice pro plus loving them. Playability is as good as pro v but durability not quite as good. Overall an excellent value premium ball. Defo recommend
I did look at getting some of them but in the end they didn't seem much cheaper? Maybe if I'd bought in bulk...
@@RobMcGarr they do 60 pro plus delivered to you door for £112.
Just go to their website vice.com
Took 4 days to arrive
I use Vice pro plus. You have to buy in bulk (60 minimum) but I think it works out about £1.80 a ball and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between them and pro v1s
I did look at them but they didn't seem much cheaper - I guess like you say I'd need to buy a load at once.
Rob McGarr yeah and if you are going to stick with them that’s fine but you probably don’t want to spend a hundred quid and have a load of balls you don’t want. Maybe contact them and see if they’ll offer you some to try out as you have a reasonable following they might be open to it?
Wilson staff dx2 matt yellow and callaway chrome soft matt green. And the odd srixon ad333 thrown in too.
Callaway... why? It's a heavier ball and when u hit it u know u "have" hit it.....with other balls I've found they tend too swerve too much in flight.. dont know if it's too light or not but find the Callaways go where I want them too go... the best ones are the red hot balls...feel rubbery to the touch... see how u get on with those.. not just a gimmick ball at all
How is it in the fairway when the arrows are pointed in different directions & don't adjust?
I hit the Calloway Supersoft as good or better as Pro V1 and Pro V1x and it spins as well it does feel a bit different off putter....
Hi Rob. Very interesting. I use Callaway soft feel. They are very reasonable priced (about a third of a ProV1) go well off the tee and not bad around the green. For Christmas and birthdays I always ask for ProV1s though!
David
You must have some loving friends and family!
Decathlon own brand balls. I use the basic range on tight holes and the mid range balls on hole where I am less likely to lose them.
Srixon soft feel
I've used them and they worked as advertised. I didn't experience any difference in distance, maybe swing speed reveals that and I don't have it. I used them a couple times but honestly aligning them was a pain and I play very fast and didn't like doing it.
It's harder than you'd think to line it up properly!
I have been using Polara because of my constant slice that made it no fun to even play. I can usually hit the Polara strait, but even it can not overcome my bad swing at times. I can still slice the crap out of one if I put too much power into the swing.
Received one of these in my 50 pack of refurbished golf balls. Cant wait to test it out! Also. Do I line the arrow vertically or horizontally? Or facing forwards?
I found one of these 30 years ago and I didn't realise you had to line it up!, it wobbled in the air like it was drunk and then nose dived into a lake! an of the usual make of ball is good for me . I have a question though, why do you not use a trolley? carrying a load of clubs can't do you any good'
They claim it behaves like a normal ball if you don't line it up but I'm not convinced! I just find it quicker and easier carrying 😀
@@RobMcGarr I so envy your youth and fitness! I have to use a trolley, I struggle getting the ball out of the hole more than I do getting it in it! ha! . my Bro is a big perve and lives in Thailand and has girls and women caddying for him . do you think this could be the way ahead? it has a certain appeal
ProV1 for feel around the greens.
I might give Seed Golfballs a try. Same performance at 50% discount.
They sent me a few so I should probably give them a try!
Rob McGarr one of the guys I play with is off 3. I figure if it’s good enough for him I should give them a go.
Would be interested to hear your thoughts.
I ordered Ceed’s PROV1 equivalent ball yesterday after watching you video. 😂
I get to play about once every 2 weeks. I wouldn't waste a single shot on that ball.
Can't argue with that!
I lose so many that if I bought fancy balls it would cost me a fortune.
Welcome to my world at the moment :(
i once found one of these, sadly i didn't know you were meant to line it up so they just wobbled like crazy in flight . i can also say they don;t float! oops! Question, ! why do they make grren golf balls and why do people buy them? its nearly camoflage isn;t it?
Good question, I wouldn't fancy using a green one!
I would use for company work events - in like a best ball scenario. Maybe as a joke with my dad, if only for a few holes.
If you tilt it to left or right will it then draw or fade depending which way you tilt the line???
It says it'll behave like a normal ball but when I tried that at the end it flew really weird!
Bridgestone tour
They’re a bit more expensive but they’re consistent and seem to carry a bit more
Ball I use is a Bridgestone e6
one thing i have read about these balls is they require minimum 10.5* of loft. what are your woods, long irons? you mentioned your first wedge shot flew much closer to expected.
My driver is 9-degree. I think my 3-wood is 14.5 and 2-iron about 19.
I use Pro V1x practice balls. ProV1x are the best for my game and the practice models because they perform the same as the regulars at half the price. Supposedly they are practice balls because of some minor cosmetic defect. I, however have never seen one. Maybe over runs or something.🤷♂️
Makes sense. Do they have 'practice' printed on them?
Rob McGarr yes it does, on the opposite side of where it’s stamped Pro V1x. The font for the Practice side is much bigger so that’s the side I use to line up my putts. I actually think it helps.
I promise you can still slice them. They do work but if your swing is crazy off then it will still slice really bad
I hit my irons great but I struggle with my driver I after the tee shot I swap balls
Not really I hit my 4 iron around 200 and my 3 around 215 but using the ultimate straight I still hit the ball around 240 to 250 with my driver
Prov1 mostly but chrome softs are just as good and only about £32 a box. Decent ball
Did play them for a while a couple of years ago and got on fine. MyGolfSpy slated them!
@@RobMcGarr yeah they're decent. At the end of the day they can be bad as they're used a lot on tour!
Rob, if you're struggling at the moment I'd recommend buying lake balls on line. I usually use Titleist NXT tour. Pearl grade lake balls from Premier Lake balls work out at about a quid each plus postage if you buy 40. They also do Prov1's at about 2 quid. I'm a 10 HC so these are fine for me. They actually look as though they've never been hit.
I know that makes total sense but I'm a bit precious, don't like the idea of using a ball that's been sat at the bottom of a lake!
The ball will nose dive with driver unless your driver is set at 10.5 or higher, set your driver at 11 degrees and you will see a better flight.
they do make 2 more different types of balls as well you should try them too.
It was a fun experiment but I need to get back to learning how to hit normal balls straight now!
did you hit any without lining up.cos cant do that on fairway ovs.
Lined one up wonky at the end. They say it'll behave like a normal ball but I'm not convinced!
Bridgestone tigers/tour B. Just feels like a really good ball.
Heard a lot of good stuff about Bridgestone balls lately!
SPIN! There is none. Drivers need it to stay up, irons need it to prevent knuckleballs.
Friend took up the game and used one with him - just were not fun to play with. Give me the spin, even when it hurts.
Think you're exactly right!
So for me ur saying 12 handicap to scratch in 1 round ?
Nice to see a course vlog around our place, Rob. Good stuff. 👍
Cheers Steve, was nice to hit a few shots from the fairway for a change!
Currently playing Bridgestone Tour B X after trying the TP5's for a while but found the cover don't last long on the TP5.
Interesting. Heard great things about TP5 so thought about trying them but they're no cheaper than ProVs!
@@RobMcGarr really cheaper I found ad333tours to be quite nice, but obviously spin around the greens arent as good as premium balls.
LaGato … they are the closest golf ball to a Titleist Pro V. but for only $30 US instead of $50
I bought a dozen of them because I hit huge slices with a driver and I also shoot 150 or more on 18 so I just want to bring my score down
Hope they help!
@@RobMcGarr they didn't help I still hit huge slices I signed up for lessons
what tracking app are u using Rob
www.shottracerapp.com/
The only time I could see me using one of those is sneakily in my Sunday fourball. As we're all similarly woeful, it'd be worth it just for the piss-taking opportunities. "Ah, come on John. Hit the bloody thing straight. It aint that hard. Watch and learn"
I use Srixon soft feel. I found one once and had one of those rare good days with it, so I stuck with those. While my ball striking is nowhere near consistent enough for balls to make a huge difference, my lag putting is pretty good and I'd be loathe to change ball for that reason alone
I have shot under par 5 times... every time I was playing a tp5...my course is par 72...I have shot 69,69,70,70 and 71
Nice! Heard great things about TP5 but they're not cheap!
They are 40 bucks...not to bad
Callaway Chromesoft works pretty good for me
Ur clearly a good golfer... i want to see someone who slices and cant stop use these balls ..lol
I've only played 20 rounds and was shooting 120 for 18 holes striking all over but long now with polara I'm shooting 90 to 95 almost every shot goes in the fairway
Ball flight looks terrible, but it will save you on quite a few holes. Get 3 and test.
@@Scolopente use a 12 degree driver it helps alot
My tee shot is horrible. So a straight tee shot would be great and I wouldn't loose 3 balls per holes.
Oh golf ball.. I’ve changed to a taylormade soft. Mid range ball for my swing speed
It seems like hitting this off the fairway without aligning it should be worse than “any other ball.” Whatever makes it straighten it out onto the line of the logo should also direct it toward the line of the logo pointed the wrong way!
That's what I thought!
I usually go to the course after big outings with 5-6 five gallon buckets and go straight to the back nine (which is in the woods essentially) and I get to use alllllllll sorts of balls :D
No spin balls them get em on launch monitor bet it's 1000 or below ...imagine hitting one of them with a sldr😱😱😱😱
I reckon you're probably right - and these were the "extra spin" version!
Prov1x dt tru soft erc Callaway balls all good 👍👍👍👍
What do you use to trace your shots?
www.shottracerapp.com/
I've used these for 1 round didn't have any problems with distance at all just a goofy flight.
Hi Rob, Seeing that you are not going to use those balls again please send it to me. Cant find them in South Africa
Have given them away already, sorry!
Pro v1x. Because I like wasting money, had one ball which lasted me 4 rounds, so I deemed them lucky. And tbf it feels nicer to putt with, but that’s it for me 😂
Can't go wrong there - it's just hurting me losing them when they're not cheap!
Yeh I feel ya! I buy one pack a month (if needed) don’t think about price that way, because I just look at it as my monthly treat. I played a fair few rounds in a month, and still won’t go through a 12 pack. So I just build up the remainders, and once that makes a pack up, I have a month off.... never worries me then
The problem is, you have to square it every shot so it's only worthwhile off the tee- can't touch your ball with your hand until you get to the green
What did you shoot
Was playing a money match against a guy about 10 years ago and picked up his ball to give it to him and it was these...I was 8 up after 9.... The same people that use these are also the people that buy the hammer driver
Funny how people fall into those traps, thinking it will help them. I think the square strike wedge is the same, as if you hit behind everything anyhow, it'll do you in regardless.
As far as training aids go, as another trap people get into, I find the orange whip, tour striker, and 300 yard impact as prime examples, are just gimmicks to get you to buy something from these poor instructors who can't teach. It's a lazy tactic by said instructors, as they seem to think I'm stupid enough to believe they know the golf swing enough to teach it, and yet tell me to use some weird tool to "get a feel for the concept". It's all BS, and some people are stupid enough to fall for it.
Wow, scary to think that people actually try to use these to cheat! Glad it didn't work for him 😀
@@RobMcGarr he was definitely trying to cheat but let's be honest people that buy these types of balls have no business challenging scratch golfers to a money match....I laughed and let him play them.. It only went 1 more hole and I beat him 9&8...I was -4 on strokes and he was like +11
I use Pro V1 but not exclusively because they are expensive
I tried out the Seed ball and found very little difference (See Average Golfer testing 😉)
I don’t see the point of this ball so would never use it
I've got a few Seeds so should give them a go soon!
Well most of you say it's ugly takes the fun out of golf but what is ugly is when you're always two fairways to the right and you never play with your group now that's no fun
I play seed sd-01 just as good as a pro v1 and over half price plus not many play them so no need to mark your ball
They did send me a few of those - will give them a try!
Snell MTBX well priced and performs
Heard good things - not keen on the name but guess I could get over that!
Snell mtbx and Kirkland performance +
doesnt spin much, does it ? i play lakeballs. for a hack like meself, dont make a difference....
No, I had the 'extra spin' version and I still think the spin was mega low. I'm a bit precious, don't like the idea of playing a ball that's been sat at the bottom of a lake!
I play taylormade tp5...the best ball out there in my opinion and I have played all the golf balls...those self correcting balls are horrible I tried them for a couple holes then threw not hit them lake lol I didn't like them
Did you line them up before you threw them?
Lol no I didn't...that's funny
Did you try hitting a few without lining them up? Great content.
At the end!
I'm not sure I understand the argument of "not worth it", and even being not legal....people spend thousands on thousands on new clubs with newer technology for a few yards gain or MORE FORGIVING drivers etc....and don't feel bad about that. Someone comes out with a ball that basically trades distance for straightness and that's all the sudden a problem? I don't get it.
What's the course?
Belton Park 😀
Ha ha ha ha ha funny watch as you look annoyed it's going staright proper funny rob
Ha, if I hit a hook I want a hook! 😀
19:00 whoever cut that hole was drunk.
Vice pro soft. Try them.
Was going to try Vice but they didn't seem much cheaper? Maybe if I'd bought in bulk...
Sounds like a rock coming off the putter