Is Latin Hard to Learn?
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I studied Latin in high school for 6 years. Understanding it becomes pretty easy after a while, but mastering is a bit harder indeed. We never had to be able to reproduce Latin actively, no speaking only translating. It's so much more than a dead language from the school banks, it a window into a fascinating culture, stories and history! It shaped my general interest in culture, history and language back then. It also helped me to learn other languages indirectly, like cognates of other modern Romance languages, grammatical structures, word classes etc.
There's this popular Belgian (Flemish) song, 'Mia' by Gorki in Dutch. Some people have translated it into Latin, and I think it's a nice way to tie the ancient language to modern culture!
That is awesome. There is a latin on Duo. I am using while learning French. Some day Portuguese or Spicy Spanish.
I studied it for 7 years and I don't think it's very hard to learn. The vocabulary is very easy to learn as the pronunciation and spelling us very straightforward, no silent letters or awkward syllables. There are a lot of grammatical endings, but they follow common patterns and have very few exceptions. As an English speaker, it was much easier to learn than German or French for sure.
hey, just curious what is your native language?
@@user-sf9ow6ir3o "as an English speaker"
How long did it took you to start creating fluently?
@@sayochikun3288 It'll be different for everyone depending on how hard they study, but I'd say the average person could be fluent in a year of consistent study. Most people will probably only be able to read it well since it's hard to find native speakers these days.
do u think it's possible to learn it in just two months
I had 4 years of Latin in the early 1970s. Our teacher said an educated person does not have to know Latin but he should at least of forgotten it. Latin made passing the sats easy
Latin is beautiful. I am learning Latin and Italian.
@@Freegaza1x May be not in your opinion and I respect that but I adore Italian.
@@janetcarson6034 Same for me, both are wonderful
@@Freegaza1x Français ?
@@Freegaza1x haha ok, I was asling myself why does he think Italian is not beautiful, so I assume you were French, sorry!
Good luck!
I learned Latin for 5 years in school. I loved its logical side. But I think it is so sad that you don't learn to speak it. So I almost forgot everything. But when I was teaching my young cousins it all came back.
It can paradoxically be very difficult if you come from a Western Romance Language, because most often Words will be similar, but how they're strung together is totally different. It's being able to remove that pesky crust of bias you might have about the degree of relatedness which makes learning Latin very difficult to some people.
I am an attorney of 40+ years' experience. I have taught Latin in college for over 10 years in retirement. I have always told colleagues and students that, for speakers of English, Latin is the easiest language to learn, followed by French. Once you get the "trick" of inflection, and are taught how to read in successive grammatical segments (as the Romans did), you will realize how enriching it is. And, all of your family and friends will think (erroneously, but, still) how smart you are! That has always been my experience, as I stand bemused.
Do you have any book recommendations?
As a Brazilian, it's very beautiful and warm to learn the Original Language to which Portuguese was born. One day I will be fluent. 😍😍
A lot depends on the teachers, it seems. I've met so many people who said they hated it, but my teacher taught it conversationally and we all seemed to enjoy it. This was 30 years ago but I am learning it again now. It's definitely helpful when it comes to learning the grammar or languages like German, and vocabulary in any of the Romance languages as well as in English, and in science, medicine, and law. Some of it can seem more complicated than some other modern languages, but with effort, motivation, and the right materials, any language can be fun to learn!
I think the reason I don’t enjoy learning Latin is because we don’t learn it conversationally. I’ve expressed this many times.
@@juliandeveaux2848 yep latin should replace or coexist with English, spanish on the world stage
I’m about to take Latin IV this year. The teacher at my school is really good and interesting but tbh I didn’t understand any part of Latin 3 (I got a 55 on the final… 😬)
Gratias maximas quod hanc pelliculam divulgasti! Maxime delector.
I've been studying Latin on my own for 2+ years now and it has been pretty fun. I'm Finnish so I was very at home with the classical pronunciation of Latin and had a pretty easy time understanding the conjugation. Latin only has 6 cases while Finnish has double that. It does sometimes create problems because the ablative carries so many meanings, while in Finnish you have obvious endings for them. But it really depends on the sentence. Learning the basics of Latin and understanding the grammar isn't too hard. The hardest part (for me) is acquiring and retaining vocabulary. The word order can also get really wild if you're reading ancient texts, and poetry is still very hard for me to read. And the hardest part of them all: so many words have multiple meanings. They don't always mean the obvious and you just gotta learn them all. Just look at the most diverse verb, "agere". It can mean to do, to manage, to convey, to act, to work etc... But if you get a kick out of being able to understand Cicero in his native tongue Latin is really fun to learn!
Being a native English speaker deciphering ancient Latin poetry is a pretty intensive ordeal. Long English sentences are easy to understand but you will have clauses go on for multiple lines where you have to figure out through the verb conjugations what is happening. It's kinda like a puzzle.
@@plausibruh For sure, poetry especially feels like a puzzle. After reading a lot I have more of an "eye" for that stuff, but still a lot goes over my head.
Wait till you get to the passive voice, subjunctive, and gerunds/gerundives.
@@Asher-Tzvi Oh I already very much have. The passive voice and the different gerunds aren't that difficult, but the various uses of the subjunctive still confuses me. But with enough reading you can get over any hurdle!
Gratias maximas! Thank you very much for this fun and insightful video. I just shared it with my students and friends.
♥
I love the way you start out with Irene and her fluent Latin.
Learning Latin change my life. I am learning on Duo. I will read those book as well.
Latin has been part of my life. As a member of a choir, part of our repertoire was in Latin. So, I am familiar with the language.
Excellent video! Thanks!
Thanks for doing one on Latin! Great suggestion to "let your brain get used to case endings by doing lots of reading." Too may people get stressed out about producing perfect Latin too early on. Don't. Be patient, and it will come.
The grammar is very different from English and modern Romance languages, so there might be a bit of learning curve there, but it's not really difficult if you put the time in. Most importantly, and perhaps surprisingly, there are a LOT of resources for learning Latin. Not much opportunity to practice speaking it, for obvious reasons, but one can easily learn to read it. Reading ancient and medieval works in Latin, some of which aren't translated, is rewarding.
1:20 Several of your "Latin" words actually come from French (aplomb, chivalrous, condign, cull, naïve, parvenu, rapport, rapprochement, taunt), and one is from Spanish (incommunicado). Of course, most French words come from Latin, but the rest of the words on the list came into English _directly_ from Latin.
Love all these Latin videos Olly! Will you consider creating a book Short Stories in Latin for beginners?
6:51 brought me STRAIGHT back to my first year of the Cambridge Latin Course at age 12, I somehow could still list most of it from memory haha. We used to see how fast we could recite the whole lot from memory and it's obviously stuck!
great job👍
keep going
I'm currently learning Latin. It's very doable.
Hi Olly! I think you forgot to mention that nowadays in Vatican latin is spoken by the Church so the people who wants to learn it can go there!
The netflix show Barbarians is partly in Latin and it has a great story about arminius
Many days fall away with nothing to show! Love that song, awesome that she put it into latin
I am encouraged, thank you.
I do know of one film entirely in Latin. It's called Sebastiane, and it's a Derek Jarman film. I'm not sure how good the Latin is, but I've heard reports that the actors were far from fluent and struggled with pronunciation.
The Romans in the Netflix TV series Barbarians all speak Latin, with overall reasonable accuracy.
"The Passion" by Mel Gibson is in latin (and aramaic)
Latin is one of the most brilliant languages. I am really glad that I had the opportunity to immerse into this language and Latin culture for a whole year during my secondary education. It was truly an amazing time. It really made easier for me the understanding of other languages. I still remember all those famous Latin quotes. My favourite to this day "Carpe diem". Thanks for the vid😍
It's also good preparation for learning any Romance language...
@@Blaqjaqshellaq Exactly 😊
I think you make some good points and try not make it sound too hard, however, there really isn't all that much utility in attaining an intermediate level in latin - which you can attain in the same span as say German. To enjoy Latin truly you will want to read all the great authors and enjoy the literature as well as maybe composing your own short stories and having fun using the language yourself which is going to take a much longer time than German in that case because for German there is far far more utility at having an intermediate level as opposed to latin. Not many institutes teach latin for the purpose of speaking and using it and all their pronunciation seems to be horrible even though latin isn't all that difficult to pronounce. They treat latin as a dead fossil to study it's grammar and to wonder at what you can translate and understand through that method which is a shame because it's a language like any other not some fossil to admire but not touch. I think to speak latin is much much harder than to speak German but only because of the lack of resources and practice partners in spoken latin as well as the teaching methods in schools and ofcourse available entertainment in the language.
The Latin quotes are the reason I want to learn Latin
A little correction: in italian the adjective place is free as in latin. Putting before or after the noun gives different shades of meaning.
It's still an excellent video though.
Ille qui nos omnes servabit.
- Lost.
Verb conjugations are much more regular than in the Romance languages. Case system of nouns is better 'organized' than in German. It does not have all the nit-picking irregularities of Italian - "in order to sound better". I enjoy it.
But German case system is much easier than in Latin.
As a Brazilian person latin is a mother language for me. It's like travel to past and hear your language in the past, truth be told...It's Exactly this!
Back in the day as a teenager in Germany I had mandatory Latin courses in high school. I was very bad at it and didn't like it, but in hindsight I appreciate the insights this language gave me.
I’m in a school where we learn Latin and Greek from grade 7 to 9, and then we can choose which one we want to continue learning. I’m now in 8th grade, and I can say Latin, once you understand the basics, is pretty fun! There’s a lot of words I recognize from other languages, and it even makes English easier (I’m Dutch) since a lot of words contain Latin.
Yes...the answer is yes
The truth is, and to be honest, English is really a hybrid language, since it is impossible to say that it is a purely Germanic language, considering the strong influence of Latin. The vocabulary in English is 60% Latin and the grammar is 38% Latin (disproving the legend that English grammar is 100% Germanic) (data from BBC London by renowned philological studies from universities such as Cambridge, Stanford and Yale). Considering the above, the influence of Latin is colossal and undeniable. English is a hybrid language and that makes it great.
*the grammar is 38% Latin (disproving the legend that English grammar is 100% Germanic) (data from BBC London by renowned philological studies from universities such as Cambridge, Stanford and Yale)*
This is entirely false. Could you name the study you're referring to?
@@Philoglossos I REPEAT ACCORDING TO A NEWS REPORT BY THE BBC IN LONDON. The full report was as follows:
The English language:
1- It uses and depends on the Roman alphabet (in my opinion this is a fundamental reason for being a hybrid language.
2-His vocabulary is 60% Latin.
3- Its grammar is 38% Latin (denying the legend that its grammar is 100% Germanic). Other sources state that it is 39% Latin.
Therefore, it is philologically impossible to consider the English language as a Germanic language. English is really a hybrid.
english definitely has a germanic core and descends from germanic, but absolutely has a giant amount of latin influence. me personally, i would definitely say it’s an over-exaggeration to say it’s a hybrid, but i understand where it comes from.
80 of the 100 most used words in english are germanic, the majority of english grammar is germanic, and the phonology is largely germanic. the latin influence mainly comes through obscure words to describe specific things, big part in this is due to french control and the languages of the elite were french.
influence happens in many languages, influence even as big as english. look at persian, it’s grammar is unique to itself, but it definitely has a lot of arabic vocabulary, and also uses the same script, and it’s still indo-iranian.
@@jura0300yes English is Germanic l studied english, German and Dutch, English is more simular German and Dutch
I would say the grammar aspects are tricky, but once you learn the tricks or can be quite easy, though there are some aspects they use that was not used in todays Romance languages
It would be interesting to learn about our mama: Latin
Have you got any videos on Irish or Scottish Gaelic in the works?
Can you give an example of a noun which has ten different case/number forms? There's a fair bit of syncretism, e.g. the dative and ablative plural are the same.
In the first, 3rd, 4th, or 5th declensions these cases are not the same in the singular. 5 cases, singular and plural. Ten. The dative and ablative fell into disuse in Late Antiquity.
After Tagalog, Indonesian and Spanish. I think latin will just be a piece of cake. I really don't know where i will use it but it will be kinda fun to use some of it in a presentation
Native Filipino here:
Matulungan ka ata ng Filipino sa pag aral ng wikang Espanyol dahil halos 30% ng tagalog loan words ay galing sa Wikang espanyol
Naga aral din ako ng espanyol hindi ako nahirapan dahil diyan ahha😂.
Translate that with the Tagalog knowledge you have so take it a kind of quiz as well lol😂
I love the latin language, but only made it through 2 semesters of it in uni because it made me feel like my brain was melting.
There is a series made in germanic and latin made by netlfix it's called Barbarians(plot is inspired by history but not accurate, but the costumes, clothing, armors are very accurate)
I love this series
Latin, in some ways, similar to Arabic, even some words are similar, would you believe that?
In Arabic,
Verb conjugation, feminin or masculine reference, words order, SVO, OVS, VOS, SOV, VSO, OSV, but the words have to be conjugated accordingly. So it is so complex. Can you lerne a little Arabic? Though the Arabic vocabularies are in huge numbers but you can still with few words only speak.
3:39 here's a mistake. Oppidum is neuter, not feminine. So it's oppidum est magnum, not magna
I studied Latin in Italian schools and later in English schools. It is hard to master, especially in Italian syllabus. For your info, I was top of the class in English as an italian speaking student because my grammar was impeccable.
There is a lot of Latin Slang. It's in Plautus and even in the Vulgate translation of the Bible.
"Is qui Mingentem Parientem" for instance.
I know Latin it teaches me at my school
I started studying Latin because next year it will be a subject in high school, it's a very beautiful language to learn. It's not as hard as you think. The only hard thing is the grammar, it's very complicated at first. But after some practising, it will actually be very easy
There is at least one film in Latin - Derek Jarman's Sebastiane.
It's the noun declension for me
Along with Roman aphorisms, let's not forget the specialized terms in medicine, law, diplomacy and the like.
spero espero Esperanto ... How about a course in Esperanto? It is the language of One Who Hopes after all
I’m not sure if I should be frightened or proud that I have independently seen every video highlighted
Personally, I just want to learn Latin for reading and/or deciphering ancient texts. I'd rather learn how to speak, hear and write other languages which are still in wide use.
Ishan Chatterjee I'd recommend the books Getting Started with Latin and Keep Going with Latin by William E. Linney. In my opinion they are the best books for absolute beginners. After that you can use the book Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Familia Romana. It's a graded reader. LLPSI (Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata) is a series of books. After completing the Familia Romana book you can use the other books in the series.
@@Aditya-te7oo Dhonnyobaad bhai! I had heard many good things about Lingua Latina, but am gonna check out Kinney work too now :)
@@ishanchatterjee1587 আপনি Linney-র বই গুগালে পেয়ে যাবেন, কিন্তু শুধু প্রথম পার্টটাই উপলভ্য।
the latin course from your website doesn't work =(
2:10 funny enough he said your probably not used to saying vino which is the way you also say it in my country ( Croatia)
@0:48 There are typographical errors:
“Exercitus noster est magnus, et propter numerum sagittārum nostrārum caelum nōn vidēbitis!"
Based on last shown tabel, Englisch should be listed -1 if someone placed dutch on category I in terms of difficulty ...
when that woman in the video started speaking i instinctively thought it was spanish or french or italian before remembering the video is about latin
dude wtf lol. ive been buying your books for a long time (short stories in russian) and only recently found your channel. never put two and two together that you were the same person haha.
Greek and latin are the source of most scientific words in modern days !
Hello Olly Richards. Latine frigus sonat. Latine discere volo. Tibi gratias ago pro communicando.
Guys, I’m a Brazilian, I know English fluently and I’m good at Spanish, I want to learn French and Latin, with one would be easier for me to learn first?
I studied Latin in high school here in the U.S.A. for 2 years. So if I meet a 2,000 year old Italian, I'm set. Maybe. Studied Spanish later in life and learned it quickly. As a friend, who was Catholic, says, "Dominick, go frisk 'em.
Amazing video
i wonder if olly is from the manchester area
If a speaker of Mexican Spanish
* was sent back to the time of Julius Caesar, by a weeping angel how long would it take for them to learn Latin
*on holiday in Rome. They are an anthropologist and a native English speaker but their Spanish was fluent enough to work in Mexico
What language is more difficult to learn, russian or latin?
Um, Olly, Netflix has 'Barbarians', and the Romans in it speak Latin.
Netflix blockbuster with Latin, Barbarians
The verb "fall" is intransitive, so it doesn't have an object!
I came, I saw, I learn Latin
As someone learning Latin at the moment, I'll say this. It is not any harder or easier than many modern languages, I'd say any language with a case and declension system is about as hard as Latin. (Also, not sure if anyone else noticed, but I did and it is bugging me, but when they show the "exercitus noster" quote, they made two MASSIVE mistakes. They wrote "et prompter numerous sagittarum nostrarum..." instead of "propter numerus").
I believe it'd have even been 'propter numerum', since propter is a preposition and takes am accusative
Oh, yeah. People who have not studied Latin should never try to write it.
spanish class: mi color favorito es verde French class: Ma couleur préférée est le bleu .. vs
Latin class: servus canem caput eius mordet et sanguinem fundit
9:09 mi hai colpito con la tua freccia
they do speak Latin in movies: Netflix's Barbarians and Mel Gibson's Passion of Christ are the examples
The pronunciation of the German vocabulary A,B,C,D etc
is almost identical to Latin.
Latin was mandatory for me in pharmacy school. And it was an awful experience.
To paraphrase an old advertisement: Latin. Not even once.
Next video- Is Arabic hard to learn?
I've been a Latin tutor for many years. It's quite a bit more challenging grammar-wise than you made it sound. Classical Latin was written without punctuation. Therefore the main verb (The verb of the main sentence in an often complex sentence structure. Adjectives and their correlating nouns can be far apart from each other in such structures.) was used to indicate the end of a sentence. (At least if you're interested in classical Latin, not the mediaeval variation. Classical Latin to mediaeval Latin relates about the same as Shakespearean English to a conversation in the pub.)
But as a native German speaker, I can assure you that Latin is by far easier and more logical as a language than German.
By the way, there are 5 conjugations in Latin, not 4! As for the endings of nouns, there are several declinations (and two declination systems for adjectives). I wonder where you've got this number from. Even the Vocative is sometimes different from the Nominative.
As for Latin speakers - up to this day, every member of the Catholic clergy is supposed to "speak" Latin.
Watch Olly's earlier video called "The Latin Language", where he goes into a lot more detail. ;)
I've been learning German for 5 months and Latin for only three weeks, and until now what I can say is that German is easier than Latin, however, I completely agree with you; Latin is more logical than German, but German phonetics is a lot more beautiful than Latin.
@@Danknight403You didn't listen to properly spoken Latin yet. Otherwise it's inexplicable...
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latin is taught in schools in europe btw
Δυστυχώς.
The vatican actually does have latin as the oficial language
Is finnish hard could be a good video
We knew a Portuguese missionary that spent time in the interior of Angola among a tribe called Kikongo. The asked him, "Avelino, is Kikongo difficult?" He said, "Naa. Once you learn it it's easy!"
Ave, true to caesar
Ten possible forms for noun declension? It's actually nine, since dative and ablative are the same in the plural. And neuter nouns only have seven, since nominative and accusative are the same for them. (I'm omitting vocative, a simple exception, and locative, a rare one.)
I've learned quite a bit of Latin. Here's a gem from Julius Caesar: "It’s sometimes the way of the immortal gods, when they want to punish people’s offences, to lengthen their initial time of prosperity and impunity so as to make them lament their eventual reversal of fortune all the more bitterly."
The subjunctive + gerunds and gerundives made me want to quit. I also hated “should/would” clauses and indirect/direct questions. Oh and don’t even get me started with all the god damn uses for the Dative case 😭😭😭😭😭😭
As a native Croatian speaker, Latin grammar actually came rather naturally to me when I had it in high school.
0:49 it’s “propter”, not “prompter”; “numerous” doesn’t exist in latin, it’s written wrongly, it should be “numeros”. They also did tons of pronunciation’s mistakes, but I’ll let that slide, cause it’s just their accent.
Sorry but I had to do this.
1:42 Attention! N-word, N-word)). I'm russian, when I studied in the US, americans laughed at my accent. But on latin lessons i already laughed. What was the cost of burry attempts to pronounce the Latin "R". I'm not talking about the impossibility of understanding what cases are, the logic of changing cases, coordinating genders, cases and numbers.
THE NEFLIX SERIES IS BARBARIANS FOR LATIN
The only thing I remember from the Latin I learned in Grammar school (decades ago) in England. "Latin is a language as a dead as dead could be, it killed the bloody Romans and now it's Killing me!" Too bad.....
10:36 Why is Romanian on the first list? It also has cases and three genders like German. I don't get it at all.
It's not easy, but it's not hard either. It's basically Spanish but on hard mode.