The LUDWIG-SONOR Connection - THE drum that inspired Ludwig
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- The earliest history of Ludwig Drums can be traced to the drum at the center of this video. As pivotal as this story is to the Ludwig history, it’s not an often told one. I have done my best to verify the facts contained in this video, but like many historical pieces much of the information comes from sources that are repeating what they’ve been told or read from other sources. The major points in the story were described in a post from the National Music Museum, so that’s some solid ground.
I’d like to thank Jon Rose, a fellow vintage drum enthusiast, for introducing me to this story. He brought it up after I posted me “Ludwig Black Beauty - The Evolution” video - see link below. ‘
I also want to give credit to the following for information and resources used in the video:
• Bearded Drums - Mystery snare footage - see video link below
• Jim Messina for the interview with Choppy - see video link below
• Keli Rae Tubbs - Max Meyer snare footage - see video link below
• Vintagedrumguide.com - the 1911 Ludwig catalog
• Modern Drummer Magazine - September 1987 - Interview with William Ludwig II
• National Music Museum is located at:
414 E. Clark St.
Vermillion, SD 57069
Phone: (605) 658-3450
I hope you find it both entertaining and informative
Very Old Mystery Snare Drum - Bearded Drums:
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2015 CHICAGO SHOW TOM MILLS DRUM CHOPPY - gumph1234
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"Revival: 1892 Max Meyer Snare" - Keli Rae Tubbs
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Ludwig Black Beauty - The Evolution
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Great piece ! The research and knowledge you pass along is amazing . Thanks for the history .
Oh man. Thank you! I find this history fascinating and I’m all to happy to share these types of videos.
When I got my first Sonor metal snare (14x5 3/4) I thought it looked a lot like a Ludwig Supraphonic. Little did I know it was Ludwig copying Sonor, not the other way around.
It’s an Interesting history for sure. I posted a video of one of these mills drums being played side by side w an early Ludwig. You might like it. Check it out. VERY RARE Vintage Drum Sold as Furniture?? Demo Included!
czcams.com/video/Vt686S1_VF4/video.html
Why is there no thumbs up like button. I liked it. How could 139 people dislike this vid ?
Hi William. Thanks for watching the video. I checked and I’m showing 139 likes not dislikes. Are you sure there isn’t a like button on your end? I see it on mine. Thanks again
Very nice work, sir.
Loved the silhouette of Krupa at Carnegie. They put floodlights under his set and turned them on during his solo, making him 30 feet tall! Very cool.
🥁👍
It’s so cool that you caught that. I knew it was Krupa but didn’t know the exact venue and show. Thanks for adding those details. 😎✌️
Thanks and Blessings for this wonderful history!
After I posted this video I received a comment from Manabu Yamamoto whose CZcams channel is ARTCYMBAL, and he posted a video of him playing a Tom Mills drum. This is the only video of its kind that I’m aware of. Please enjoy! Thank you Manabu!
czcams.com/video/mQZiXGufUnA/video.html
Thanks and Blessings Eddie and Manabu, this is some fabulous history!
@@tmaddrummer Thank you!
Always fascinating and informative, Thank You !
Thank you!
Great history, thank you so much!
Thank you Charles!
Thanks , that was great to watch .
Thanks Kevin. I appreciate you checking in and letting me know that you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much, I’m wondering if you could talk a little bit about the shell, what I’m interested in is the malleability of the metal and whether the deflection of the metal affects the sound, possibly making it more appealing and warmer?
I couldn’t find anything other than it was brass, which is a soft alloy. The tom mills one isn’t nickel plated but some of the other ones are. I don’t expect that has much effect on the sound but it could. I pinned in the comments someone who sent me a video of him playing his Trommel
Farbrik made snare. Check it out. It’s the only video I’ve seen of the drum being played. Turns out he has two of these drums.
Great video!
Thanks again! You’re podcast is a huge inspiration!
I learned so much from your video please make more of it these!!!! Can you branch out to other topics as well? You are very talented and handsome 😊
More vintage drum stuff coming soon Wendy. Glad you tuned in!
Absolutely incredibly put together.
I’m blown away.
Superbly executed
@@Rogersdrumvideos thank you brother!!
I'm gonna start talking like this ya see?...
if I never had that swing... I got it now!
Hey GM! Talking how? Not sure I understand.
@@eddieavakian oh like the old-style of vocabulary... where people say "ya see" alot.
I apologize. I was truly inspired by your vid. it has an old timey feel to it.
but trust me I really like it!
@@generationalmolehill7674 not a problem. I just wasnt sure what you meant. I was trying to bring the mood of the video back to the early 1900s w the music and visuals. It’s difficult as not allot of quality images exist from back then. Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking in!
@@eddieavakian yessir you definitely achieved it!!!!!(whew)
Thank you for making a great video! I have 2 Tom Mills drums, and 1 is playable. I compared it with the 1912 Ludwig snare on this video:
czcams.com/video/mQZiXGufUnA/video.html
And here is the Tom Mills drum alone.
czcams.com/video/11Beg63T5jg/video.html
My other one is a non-plated raw brass one. It is playable when I replace some parts from the plated one.
I haven't made a soundfile yet, but it sounds great. 👍
This is fantastic! I don’t know how I didn’t see these videos in my research. That drum looks and sounds incredible. Congratulations on owning and maintaining such an important piece of history. 👏👏👏
Would you mind if I added a link to your videos in my description? I’d love for people to find it.
@@eddieavakian Yes, of course! Thank you. 😊 I will put "Tom Mills" in my video title so it would be easier to find.👍 I'm so happy that I can finally talk about this drum! More people will know about them from your wonderful video.🙌 Once again, thank you for the great work!🙇♂☺
@@manabuchannel thank you so much! You have the only video of that drum actually being played. That’s amazing!
@@eddieavakian Ah ,maybe you're right! I will make a video of my raw brass one, with goat skin. (This plated one had calf skin) I'll let you know in a few days! ☺👍👍
Its SonOr not sonar , please stop the disservice.
Where did a spell it as “Sonar”? The title is spelled correctly.