Two stroke outboard run without oil in fuel
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2021
- Today we look at an old 2 stroke outboard motor that was run without oil in the fuel until it seized. Given the age of the engine and the fact that it had previously sunk the owner hoped to just check whether it survived rather than pulling apart.
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I know you’re going to change the channel to more diving and recovery stuff one day but man do I love the marine repair / explanation stuff. The way you do it is so entertaining and informative. Just love that content. There’s my two cents.
I'm sure he will break plenty of stuff while diving and using the boat in general.
@@ryanp0342 boats are forever falling apart, there will be repairs to come..
second that
The repair side of things is why I watch this channel
Should change to more of a chicken channel IMO.
Such a pleasure to watch someone that actually understands engines and what they need to keep running. Good work!
Thanks mate.
Dangar Marine old school. No idea why I enjoy watching Stuey work on an outboard, I never would, but he's got long-time chops and it's just satisfying. A pleasant and educational interlude.
Thanks mate. :)
I wish I could give this video a 'super like', Stu. I wish more boat mechanics (and other technicians) were conducting their business and advice like you do. Just solid plans and honesty that will lead to a happy customer in the long run. Thank you.
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Stu, the Adrian of outboards.
You must be everybody's best mate on the island.
You get a few calls...
@@DangarMarine Been there, done that ;)
@@DangarMarine sorry about that mate lol
"Shift ya Bastard", would never be sold in America, totally need to get some of that.
They make a "Start ya Bastard" also
Yeah even if you never needed it, it would be great just to have it on the shelf !
aerostart a valuable thing to have in the boat, the odd times Ive had to give my grumpy old evinrude a spray, or even others having issues at the ramp, its been so handy to have .
Always heard the name but assumed it was slang - never knew it was an actual product name. Going to have to get my Aussie friend to smuggle some back to the states the next time he goes home!
I never heard of it either. I busted out laughing when he said it and I saw the name on the can🤣
Good to see you finally back on small boat stuff.
Thinking of doing a few each month this year.
@@DangarMarine Excellent, I still like Renko :)
Scary Stuff working on motor in water! Stuff often gets dropped! Cheers once again from Canada!
Cheers!
No worries, You add that to the final bill & the customer pays.
I know nothing about motors/engines but I enjoyed watching the whole thing. Thanks!
Awesome, thank you!
Whoohooo got my T-shirts today, now i am a real Dangar Marine tech when working on my boat 😎😎
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Been wearing my hoodie for years and people still ask "what's danger machine"?
ITS DANGAR MARINE!
Great to see you do a video going back to your roots. I think a lot of us subscribed you back in the days when you were doing marine repair in the shop. Great video
Thanks mate, appreciate you staying all this time. :)
I had a similar problem with my Merc 3.3, not by lack of oil in fuel or a dunking but possibly from inverting the engine while stowing it away, causing a bit of salt water getting in to the crankcase and then on the crankshaft roller bearings. Managed to unseize with lots of spray down the plug hole and in the carby. It ran but very noisy so I ended up stripping it apart and ordered the full parts kit to repair it off ebay. Works like a dream now. It's never too hard to have go at fixing something yourself particularly with the help of Stu's informative videos.
"Shift Ya Bastard" cracks me up every single time.
I'm going to be sharing this video with my customers! I have a lot of customers that just do not understand why I won't work on a lot of older motors. This explains in detail about fixing one thing finding another and then it's just not worth it and then you got an upset customer. I much prefer happy customers over making money any day. Thanks from all the way here from Salt Lake City, UT Danger
Stu the Wizard....you are the absolute guru on the mechanics of a boat motor.
I really miss these short instructional outboard videos. Fantastic content more like this please
We get “PB Blaster” you get “Shift Ya Bastard”
Military imagery versus emotional truth.
I picked up an old 1990-ish Johnson 30HP last summer. I learn so much from this channel. Thanks for showing so many situations and fixes for motors that are the same or very similar to mine.
I love your outboard repair videos I’ve learned so much from you over the years. Cheers from Texas
Glad to help! :_
The outboard vids are my favorite
I don’t even have a boat anymore and I still love watching you videos for mechanic tips, awesome how you explain theories and techniques!!
Awesome! Thank you!
This was what got me caught way back when you started filmen from your home. You really have a way with repairing and teaching about outbaords. And I can see that I am not the only one that loved that you made a outboard vid again. I loved the hole Renko jurney, It was great, but I sure do miss those outboard magical repair vids. With the amount of comments here, I think people are sending you a message :-)
Thanks mate, more outboard vids to come!
Very cool, I love watching people go through the diagnostic process, simple symptoms with hundreds of potential root causes. Interesting that the lack of oil appeared to be the nail in the coffin as that outboard clearly had a hard life.
Awesome to see you back into outboard mechanical .
Stu I appreciate the incite as to why the old outboard is just a money whole. More shop owners need to be honest like you.
Thanks Don. :)
Shift, ya bastard!" - only in Australia!
I think hammers in Australia should have "F@%k ya c@#t" engraved on them for when you hit your thumb.
....and the cans of Ether for starting diesel engines is called............Start ya bastard. True story!
Ha! Best product names ever.
Comedy Company - TV show from 1980's
Highlight of the video for me! 🤣
Your conclusion and story is reminder for all of us! Thanks for your candor and honesty.
Your outboard videos are THE best! Love it. Thank you 🙂
I love watching your video's, you take the time that 99% of people won't take to spend and talk about what your thinking or on anything your doing. It's great 👍👍
Love your work Stu. Technically informative and easy to understand. Will be watching more of your videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Really love your work Stu. As always, very informative and entertaining.
hey Stu loved saying hi in pittwater last weekend. great to see u out there enjoying the conditions.
Hello to both of you from Washington State USA. Have my self a little bayliner for cruising around the Puget Sound. Love the content! Have a great weekend everyone.
It was a great weekend to be out on the water. :)
@@DangarMarine yeah i agree. my sonar said that the water was 27 degrees like wtf
Man I just love your videos! I love how you talk thru things and share your personal wisdom from years of experience. Thank you so much
Glad you like them!
Love the outboard repair content. Please do more of these.
Will be doing a few more from now on.
Getting back to what brought me to your channel a couple years back. Hope you continue to produce informative DIY advice videos. All the best from Florida.
More to come!
Great vid Stu, love the refresher on the 2 strokes, always learn a little something from your outboard vids!
Glad you enjoyed it
RE: outboard. The expression beating a dead horse comes to mind
Glad you came back to the little outboards and diagnose, can't wait to see that yami in pieces 😁 definitely a good thing to do videos of a little bit of all... Never get tired of the mechanical videos, have a nice trip with Renko Stu, cheers from Argentina
Thanks Martin!
I love how you have a floating mobile workshop now!! i remember when these types of videos were everyday you have come a long way my friend......
Thanks mate. I am really enjoying being able to work on the boats from Renko. Much easier than lugging everything up the hill.
you guys have a can called shift ya bastard! love it
Not only that, but also "start ya, bastard".
@@grunthostheflatulent9649 Stu forgot to spray the motor with "Be fixed, ya bastard!"
What a great episode. Always a joy to watch.
Glad you liked it. :)
Yes the marine repairs are just awesome you explain them so well keep them up
Glad you like them!
really liked the video with the borescope and how he takes the time to explain his process and thoughts.
I love these videos so interesting an exsplains everything.Dont stop doing these plz.I try to watch all!!😮
Great to see an outboard repair episode again, that how I found you some time ago, I like the floating workshop! Those 2 stroke Yams take some abuse and are the motor of choice for most fishermen that live away from easy access to a service workshop, it will be nice to see it live again.
Thanks mate. Actually filmed three different outboard repair videos last month, just need time to edit up all the footage!
2 strokes are built way tougher than any 4 joke stroke. Now run a 4 joke with no oil and see how long its lasts. 1 stroke to power it 3 strokes to wear it out.
Love it when you work on outboards Stu
"Didn't sound awesome." How many times have I heard that!
You are right about 2 strokes will run again if run without oil in most cases, Stu. Usually the piston skirt which is alloy will expand and just nip up in the bore, you can get some metal transfer but usually this just alloy transfered onto the bore and it doesn't stick permanently.
Yes, I think in this case it was more death by a thousand cuts. I definitely wouldn't open a 2 stroke up until I was confirmed to be dead. Could end up being a big waste of time and money when it can just be run.
Stu, you consistently put out some of the best stuff available on the internet! I get much satisfaction supporting your efforts on Pateron and I'll continue watch regardless of whatever direction you take YOUR channel. It was your wonderful teaching style, clear and thorough outboard diagnostic & repair videos you produced that first caught my attention. Thank you for making this video, it was fun watching you temporarily resurrect this Yamaha 40.
Thanks mate. I'm glad you enjoyed the vid and really appreciate your support! :)
Stu loved the new video.I’ve missed your outboard videos and looking forward to the next one.I just put new rings and honed the cylinders in my Yamaha 55H .runs perfectly now.
Nice one!
Good ol dangar....... givin people the old 2 stroke pulla
Looking forward to the other videos. I have the same engine on my speedboat in the Netherlands.
Enjoy your rebuild on the 2 stroke. Great stuff.
Thank you!
Nice to see another outboard video mate. Love the 2 strokes
Glad you enjoyed!
Wow fantastic info and job all done basically on the water. Very knowledgeable and informative. Some great tips. Locals must be lucky to have you around. Well done.
Glad it was helpful!
It was almost poetic to see you doing your general marine repairs aboard Renko. I always, immensely, enjoy your videos. Thanks mate.
Thanks mate. It sure beats lugging outboards up to the house.
I have a mercury 50 hp 2 stroke 1991 , I do learn a lot of things from you videos , thnx
Just love these trouble shooting and repair videos on outboards...👍
Thank you for the video - you helped me save a 20HP Mercury that seized after being run on straight gas in NW Ontario, Canada. Works great in the driveway now (with the water muffs on) - assume it will work when we get it back in the water - although not sure for how long. I'll have to watch a few more of your videos to learn some maintenance tips.
Ty ty. You spoke about things in a great way for me to understand and trust. I have a 1995 evinrude 200 that I forgot 2 stroke oil and ran it for a couple hours then it died. I was able to start it a couple more times confused on why it was dying after just 15 seconds of running. Going to give this a try and pray it is still ok
Good luck!
Back when I was a teenager (13y.o.) I got a 40HP Mariner two stroke for free. It had sunk in salt water the day before, and I put the motor in fresh water for 2 days before I started to "revive" it. Needed new coils and plugs + some o-rings. Total cost for repair was around $120. Needless to say I had lots of fun with that motor, upgrading from a 10hp Chrysler outboard. Great video. Looking forward to seeing the bearing repair.
All your videos are interesting and informative
Great little video with some insightful tips for the budget conscious boater. 👍
Hi Stu, great video. I really like this comprehensive, informative format. Cheers!
Great to hear!
You clearly know your stuff. Thanks for the very informative videos.
Thanks for watching!
You’re a good bloke. Keep up the good work legend.
Much appreciated
Stoked to see an outboard video! We are just heading back into lockdown, so likely going to be getting my Dangar fix.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great vid mate, lots learnt, look foward to the next
one, Cheers
You gave a 100% try is all you could do. Thanks for the content.
I appreciate that!
Enjoyed the video as always---wish I had the same confidence to take small motors apart seems a bit of art there as well as experience
Man you have awesome insight. Keep up the good videos, they're inspiring.
Glad you like them!
Stu
Awesome video on a 2 stroke you need one now pulling a 4 stroke apart
Watching from Norway 🇧🇻 Good videos.
Another great one. Thanks. The story of this motor was really told at the very beginning when you saw 3 inches of marine growth on the leg. Kind of jealous, you're running around in shorts and a t-shirt and I'm up here in -3 celsius waiting for it to warm up enough to work on my new 1992 Merc powered fishing boat. Cheers!
Small problems need to be fixed ASAP. Because the tilt doesn't work, the leg can't be stowed out of the water so the marine growth covers everything. Since the marine growth covers over the release screw on the leg, the emergency method of tilting the leg is also impossible, which makes working on the motor harder..e.g. the squirt of WD40 to help release the pistons can only soak the bottom edge of the piston..not the top edge.
Love your videos. Wish i had just half of your boat knowledge...
Good one Stu. It’s good that you explain to your customers when to stop throwing good money after bad and start looking for a replacement. With the auto chook feeder, i wedged the lid open until they work out that’s where the food is. A few days later I added a stone under the lever so at best the food was exposed but they had to overcome their fear of the lid opening to get full access. When they are used to that, then I removed the stone and it’s all good. New chickens quickly learn about the opening lid from watching the older chooks and it will save you a small fortune not feeding every pigeon, myna and rat within 5 kms!
Yep, I've been doing something a bit similar. First step is definitely to leave it open so they learn that food is in there.
Great video brother thank you for sharing and your knowledge and expertise
I have an old 1970's Evinrude 9.5 what they called a Sportwin. It was used when I bought it so had an uncertain history. Someone else borrowed it and while carrying it from a tinnie to a car, turned it up side-down and spilled saltwater back into the bores. I always used to stand the motor upright, tilt the motor rearwards and to left and start it for a few seconds on the remaining fuel in the bowl to blow out the exhaust box before loading it into a car boot left side down.
The head had to come off and it took quite a bit of dieseline, oil, a wooden drift and a lot of patient light rapping around the circle of the pistons upon the drift with a small malllet to gradually work the pistons free enough to uncover enough of the bores to clean. They were only very lightly bloomed but pistons wedged stiff by the jammed rings I guess. After closing it back up again it worked fine but became just a little slappy, I am guessing after the rings worked free. It still runs.
To give it a bit of help, I ran it with a more generous dose of oil in the fuel and took my chances with the plugs fouling and the mixture being wrong. It did got get any worse. I was fascinated by the use of teflon non-stick coatings in the water jacket and chambers of the head. For what they are I was amazed at how much of a thrashing they take just in normal use. I was told it should not be babied or it would deteriorate.
Eventually the resin in the ignition coils broke down and that was the end of the spark. The design work for the ignition system was not good. The old coils and the new coils were an interference against the reliefs in the casting intended to clear them and come under destructive pressure when the bolts are tightened as I found out the hard way. It is probably now almost a heritage object.
Avery time you knock down anything on motors it’s like another holiday for me. Love to watch all your videos, your very talented person, good luck to you, and would like to sponsor your channel. Thanks for all you do
That was great Stu, The Chicks will soon learn where the food is available. Liking the all aspects of marine repairs and boats. Good going Stu, Jeff in LA USA
Yes, they have the motivation to learn so I'm sure they will!
Chooks and Two Strokes Perfect rainy Sunday arvo entertainment
Thanks mate!
Still pretty amazing how stout and reliable these outboards are. The fact these will still even pop off and run after the abuse is amazing. You run a 2stroke motorbike out of oil and run it untill it stops you can pretty much guarantee your going to do a total top end rebuild at minimum.
They sure are tough!
Nah, my buddy ran his 2-Stroke bike with an empty oil tank until we could hear the piston SCREAMING as it scraped up and down the bore, while being completely dry. It died while it was idling, and was REAL tight while kick starting it. Ran some premix in it for a tank, along with a full oil tank, then went back to regular fuel, and it ran for years after that.
Thanks man, I enjoyed your video a lot.
Wow, I swear I heard scraping and grinding as you initially spun it by hand. Didn't think it would run, great job!
Yes, it definitely got smoother with a few turns but unfortunately once bearings any pitted they wear out very fast.
I found a yami 15 smoker sunk down in the USVI. Didn't even pickle it, and it ran hard for a year before the bearings went. So impressed I bought a new one before I got back to the states, where they were just banned. Still got my 8hp yami two stroke.....20 years later. Can't stand 4 strokes for portables.
2-stroke no oil = piston and jug set to me. Worked for a rental company. One of the part time employees [I named him Paperweight] sent out a chainsaw with straight gas, when the customer brought it back Paperweight thought it needed a carb adjustment so he gave the customer the other chainsaw, the customer still had the same gas can. On the up side the older Makita were easy to swap piston/jugs.
I suspect that Daffy is actually quite smart. Daffy waits for Daisy to do the work, and watches, while Daisy goes in circles not really having a plan. When Daisy has almost by accident made a find, Daffy jumps in. Great video about the outboard btw. I am always keen to learn about small engines. I think you enjoy sharing your knowledge, Stu.
Hmmm. Daffy is black, Daisy is white, no? Like the WB and Disney characters, respectively? Seems to me you have them reversed. Or maybe I'm reading too much into random chicken behavior...seems to me Daffy is the aggressively active one while Daisy hangs back.
Yes, Daffy definitely rules the roost.
@@MargaretLeber Yes, I got the names mixed up.
I find your videos,riveting mate,so wholesome.
Thanks mate. :)
Great content. Always a pleasure.
Much appreciated!
Excellent content
I'm impressed that you got the Butterfly screws out so easy...... Sound advice here about how to go about getting your boat back up and running after a motor pops. The no oil in the fuel was definitely the signature on the death warrant.... Good video....
Thanks John. I pull the rest of the outboard apart this morning to get it into liftable sized chunks I could carry. I was amazing nothing else was seized either. I was really expecting the driveshaft to seized into the crankshaft but slid right out.
tenacious d!!! love the shirt, love the band! love your videos!
Love the channel. From Texas, the "ya bastard" products are amazing... wish they were in my area, I'd use them exclusively!
Thanks my friend...The last Bass Boat l had was a 21 foot Norris Craft with an Johnson Outboard tricked out V8 chopper prop, hydraulic jack plat...That was back in the early 1980's telling my age here a little lol...Take care my friend down under....! TEACHING MISS DAISY....
Sounds like a beast!
@@DangarMarine It was many years ago now....l am 81 years now..Thanks
Once again, well done,
Excellent Work !!!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great watch Stu
Thanks Adrian.
Great advertisement for Yamaha outboards. They are hard to kill like a Toyota Hilux. Wish I had your knowledge great work.
Gooood mornin from southwest Florida.
Looked like some green on the wires also
I stumbled upon Marvel Mystery Oil (oil or fuel additive) when trying to unseize an 800cc motorcycle engine that had been sitting in a shed for 16 years. Amazing result! I think this is my first comment after watching and lurking all these years. Adelaide SA
I have heard it's great stuff, must find some one day. Thanks for commenting! :)