Chips, cars and cognac: What's on the menu for Xi's Europe visit âą FRANCE 24 English
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 05. 2024
- On Sunday, Chinese President Xi Jinping will come to Europe for the first time in five years, staying in France until Tuesday. Aside from the Ukraine war, technology - computer chips and green tech in particular - could be the most important talking point on the agenda. FRANCE 24's Peter O'Brien tells us more in this week's edition of Tech 24.
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As a Chinese, I was shocked and relieved to see how stupid the so-called experts in Europe were.
Thereâs no strategic analysis. Thereâs only rhetoric.
It's silly. I want to laugh.
As an European, I have to agree with you.
That's why de Gaulle were extinct in France for quite sometimes.
They think theyâre cute. Wasting airtime and adding no value to viewers.
chips? But Xi isnt going to Netherlands... France doesnt make high end chip. where is this expert from? I mean what make this guy think Xi wants chips from France?
Yeah, I got confused too by his message. Not sure if he's over his skis on the topic or if he should have clarified his point on France / China / Chips. High-end chips come from Taiwan.
ASML has TSMC, Intel and Blackrock too as shareholders.
Maybe he is talking about some exotic French potatoes chips? đ€€đ€€
@@andrewlim7751 Ha, I get it now !!! đ
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It's decided by host sovereign, and potatoes is one. đđ
You need to be in the Netherlands for ASML, not France or Ursula von der Leylen
If you say so, then he should be go to us rather than anywhere. Since all the eu countries are dogs of us.
ASML is leaving the Netherlands
@@edgardebruin5539 It's not. They are even getting 2.5 billion to expand in the Netherlands from the government. They won't sell their machines anyway, because their shareholders are Blackrock, TSMC, Intel and Samsung for instance. No chance in hell they're gonna sell their shares to China. The only thing China could do is build their semiconductors factories in the EU and we sell it to them. That tech is definitely not going to China from ASML.
There were only talks to expand ASML to France, not leaving the Netherlands, but that is now gone too.
ASML is ruled from Washington not Netherlands.
@@ensteffo They have shareholders over the world at ASML, but it's still a Dutch company. Biden went to PM Mark Rutte for his chips act, so in a way it's true. Biden still needs the Netherlands for that though.
One thing they will NOT talk about is. Chips
Agreed. Why would China talk about chips with FranceâŠ..
Potato chips for lunch probably.
Xi visited France and said....."i'm only here for the fries!"
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Chips? Perhaps itâs Potato chips since Layâs is a French company.
Taiwan is not an issue of EU and even US. Stay away and let the Chinese of both sides manage it in peaceful way. When has China gets involved in the issues in EU or US?
The guest is guessing, quite wildly. đđđđ
This guy is an expert in googling WikipediaâŠ
And what exactly french president has to do or to say with respect to issues related to Dutch ASML or Taiwanese TSMC?
They like to put themselves in "everything" comes what may the "Hegemony " status is fading away little by little and they're holding on for dear Life.
The guest is guessing something out of the box. đđđ
these videos are becoming more and more ridiculous
This guy needs an updated memo. China no longer needs western chips anymore.
You got it wrong. Europe doesn't need more Chinese junk. To stop global warming, global shipping needs to stop first.
You wish...
what role France played in the chips sector, just wondering?
He has no idea about China...
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Western media loves to add ' but at what cost'
The European governments should be thankful to the Chinese government for making the EV so affordable for everyone and also helped the governments saved a lot of money on incentive or subsidy to the encourage the general population to use EV for better environment.
No, the EU needs to restrict Chinese imports.
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It cuts both ways.
Chips with Cognac is surely doable.
Unfortunately, the tech "expert" appears to be brainwashed by the US over the issue of Taiwan.
The OFFICIAL NAME of Taiwan is The Republic of China !
The split into two factions of China is the result of the unfinished Chinese civil war which resulted in the losing faction's escape to the Chinese island province of Taiwan.
Both factions do claim the other as "theirs".
In fact, for journalistic integrity, I invite the "expert" or his female colleague to check The Constitution in effect on the Taiwan Island. He and she will find that the Constitution claims the mainland part as part of The Republic of China, the official name for the government of Taiwan
China sees residents of Taiwan as brethren. Invasion will hurt the Chinese and benefit the Americans
THAT CHINA IS ABOUT TO INVADE TAIWAN IS PURE AMERICAN FICTION created for its own purposes.
Don't be fooled!
Who is on the menu? By chips, he means French FriesïŒ
France has no control of those topics in chips or Taiwan
China wants ASML to provide them with the same chip-making machines that they sell to Taiwan. And Macron is favourable to that idea and uses it as a bargaining chip for other questions.
Exactly. France doesn't even make any high end chips. Why on earth would Xi wants to talk abt chips with French Macaroni? đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Even chips for refrigerators?
Interesting move by France
What do France have anything to do with chips, chips, chips and chips? Unless he meant the one made of potatos.đ€Ł
The opening makes me went out bought some chips. đ
What chips,I guarantee that Macron will not mention Taiwan and chips or Uighurs
I'm still waiting for evidence about the Uighur claims. I mean, I downloaded about 500gb video of evidence about Isr-el, but I couldn't find a Uighur one.
@@lianghao7128 ??? Nice try. So you just ignored the gigabytes of data from the leaked Chinese police database a few months ago showing all these citizens flagged as Uighurs and in so called reeducation camps ? Either you're disingenious here (ie trolling) or your blinders are out of this universe.
@@iamsometimes6712 These are easy to be forged by the media, but videos of genocide can not be forged by AI at present. Unlike you, I am not a person who believes everything easily. I ask for real evidence.
â@@lianghao7128he doesn't have đź
@@lianghao7128 Same here
Economic cooperation. Itsvgood ! Isnt it ?
What chips China buys from France? Wonder how France feels Ursula will be there as a hall monitor?
Chips in the Eiffel tower in the afternoon and maybe some more delicious chips before the flight home.
Thanks
he should have said fried onions, chip is a Belgium food. đ i will see myself out
from fossil energy from rusia to green energy from china?
never know that France could make chips
Chips and Cars and Metals and Electronics.
Amazing leader. Real
Update narrative pl.. " More recent news that Huawei and SMIC are scheming to mass-produce so-called 5-nanometre processor chips has stoked fears about leaps in their next-generation prowess. These chips remain a generation behind the current cutting-edge ones, but they show that Chinaâs move to create more advanced chips is well on track, despite US export controls."
And note that 50% of US chip talents are Chinese. đ
And 100% of China's talents are Chinese & Taiwanese.
â@@LibochLes fondateurs de la NASA ont des talents de la Chine continentale, il est difficile de dire que les Chinois et les TaĂŻwanais peuvent reprĂ©senter tous les talents chinois.
cognac? Seriously?
Yes I agree. Chips are the most important issue that should be discussed. And fish too, of course. You can't talk about chips without mentioning the fish.
The "expert" is one of those who fall into - often wrong but never in doubtđ
Trade is always a win win.
Everyone gets what they want .
Wine, cognac , LV, EV etc .
Since the tech expert did such a poor job of his jobâŠ
No Xi is not coming to France to talk about the Chips, he would be going to Netherlands instead.
He would be talking about EV, yes Cognac together, because EU launched investigation into Chinese EV subsidy, backed by the French. (Germans are against it due to worry about their brands in China)
I doubt Xi and Macron will talk about green tech much or even Huawei, because itâs a necessity if EU wants to succeed in its green policies and telecommunications advancement.
Also, tech wise, this âexpertâ also failed to mention Sino-French collab in space (China just launched ChangE-6 to the backside of the moon for samples), as well as China can buy more Airbuses.
Macron says that the EU should not get involved in a war between China and Taiwan. But the EU wants the United States to help Ukraine. The EU should be able to provide Ukraine with everything it needs to win this war, and that includes weapons and European troops.
Europe has nothing to gain in NATO expansion. Itâs a foolâs errand trying to prop up Pax Americana with EU blood and money.
Be fast If you want help because here is Weekend
Sorry this guy donât understand the chips business. Taiwan makes bulk of high end chips that is 5nm, which are used in high end AI, mobile phones. The rest of electronics application donât need that thickness. A car can do with 14nm or 28nm of which China is the world leader in manufacturing. China can make 7nm which is used on latest Huawei mobiles. In the next two years it can make 5nm for its market which is the biggest semi conductor buyer/market in the world. Now with US IRA state subsidies policy it is building huge capacity by drawing out companies from its allied countries, this will build massive over supplies with fewer buyers. Ultimately price will collapse and the investment of chips will be dud.
I'm sure the visit has nothing to do with Macron's statements about the war in Ukraine.
fish and chips?đ
So funny, I believe the topics of Xi and EM without any chips, this time will focus on peace of Ukraine at least during the Olympics
Let the French decide of keeping being a puppet of their big cousin or not...
fish and chips
Chips đ
Lies, lies and lies.
What is not at the table will be on the menu: USA. đ
The guest talks like the wars in Ukraine and Gaza are over. đ
China should make sleek sports dream car like Lambo and sell for $30, 000 or $50 thousands dollars
Are they on a date on live TV?
Definitely something is going on with the two of them...
Why is this guy even here? You grab in a random person looking for toilet from street?
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Europeans, especially French, are good at having a smart appearance while having no idea.
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XI wants to open a door in EU. And he finds Macron is the one prone to outside influences and thus easy to crack.. Macron needs desperately the recognition as the narcissiste feed from the outside world. Xi is going to give the sense of importance Macron needs so to have him under the radar.
I didn't know french potato chips it's so famous...lol
All he saying is chippppppppp
lol this guest provided nothing but BS
Making his trip to pretend to be a world leader He's a victim of his own greed lust and ego, as are his people, All the smiles in the world can't cover up your evil
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Get someone who knows something đ
This guy knows nothing. 4min wasted
Gosh! How STUPID đđđ
Too young and too naive as a so called expert
Peter
Do you mean potato chips?
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Xi will come as a wine tester⊠& eventually buy only s. American wine. His focus is â hungryâ and Serbia đ·đž
Xi will be there to tell them what needs to be done đđ is as easy as ABC.
Macron must demand compensation for the cost occurred during the pandemic due to lack of transparency and accountability from the Chinese government.
Ha ha ⊠using which muscles?
Here is the 698 Trillion compensation you ask for. Come get it with whatever army you could gather.
ridiculous opinions
I was shocked and relieved to see how stupid the so-called experts in Europe were.
A propaganda mouthpiece. The guest is a liar. Outright liar. No expertise.
Taiwan is not China
Yeah yeah yeah you are the boss.
Even "Taiwanese" say they're Chinese and they call "Taiwan" as Republic of China. Go back to sleep uncle
Taiwan is best Country
Also Hawaii is not USAđ
@@xman1533 lol fr
Talk a lot and say nothing, this chap is pathetic
Taiwan is not under risk of being invaded by China.
Taiwan's official name is Republic of China.
The majority of the Chinese people want the reunification of the Republic of China and the People's Republic of China.
This is the second time China had to reunify Taiwan with the Mainland.
The first time was from 1642 to 1682 after a war that cost the lives of 500 000 people, and lasted for 40 years.
That war consisted of 11 Amphibious invasion attempts.
For 40 years the surging Qing Dynasty forces launched invasion after invasion attempts to retake Taiwan from the remanants forces of the declining Ming Dynasty.
No matter how many times they were defeated they kept coming again and again and again and again 11 x for over 40 years until they eventually succeeded.
So if any Western clown wants to get involved in a Chinese war over Taiwan they seriously need to ask themselves are you willing to fight a full scale all out war with China thst will last 40 years and will cost tens of millions lives of their own own people?
You are dealing with a country that fought 22 year wars, 40 year wars, 300 year wars.
any region which they see as an integral part of their country will fight ceaselessly and relentlessly for thst land.
They will never stop fighting until they succeed.
If you couldn't fight the Taliban for 20 years. How are you going to fight China for 40 years.
This is a USA founded channl.
Hello everybody IS any money man here today in chat
Is France the new member of the Brics family?
How about the French grow a set and stop being america's beechđ€šđ€šđ€š
Is Xi Jinping visiting France, Hungary, and Serbia for chips? I was shocked by the ignorance and stupidity of the guests.đ€
what has french to do with chips??
dude wants to have some potato chips.