Israelis: What do you think of Bnei Anusim?
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The lovely older gentleman at 1:45 is so wise.
They are not Jewish by Halakha, but we should not forsake their Hebrew roots. Jews are one nation and much of our history and identity has been defined by persecution. With that being said, it is up to the Bnei Anuism community themselves if they want to revert to Judaism. We cannot force that on them. But I would encourage anyone with Jewish roots to get in touch with them.
YOu are a nutt. The Ashkenazi are the descendants of forced Khazarian converts, Many of the Anusim, kept their traditions in secret and have DNA back to Israel, YOur just a white racist Imposter masquerading as a Jew
Yes. There are some who have no idea and others who are more Jewish in practice than Christian. The group is larger and more diverse than you would believe. There are pockets throughout Latin America and the Caribbean.
@@jonathanadams2592 I'm ashkenazi, but somehow share the same genes with guys who lived in Israel 2000 years ago. Coincidence?
Forever Republic spoken like a true fake Talmudic Jew from Khazaria, Since, when do the fake European Jews determine who is Jewish?
@@jonathanadams2592 do you have any way to determine who's Jewish and who's not?
I am according to my dna, Jewish from both parents. All my family keeps certain laws though my ancestors converted to Christianity, I believe my grandma knew 'cause she often spoke about the Spanish inquisition and actually was paranoid about people knocking on the door bringing some sort of gospel
Ben Cruz lol
So from 1490 to 2020 you kept Jewis laws. I dont buy it.
Also if someone from 1490 was jewish, that means that each generation female has to be jewish, its not possible. sorry.
What in your dna shows you that you are Jewish?
It's not just Spain but the whole Iberian Peninsula which includes Portugal. Lots of Latinos are finding out they have Jewish roots from ancestry DNA tests. Myself included. Looks like our melting pot of ethnicities (Latin America) is richer than we thought. :)
Thx foe this awesome Comment^^
@@ruh8659 i found out im portugues sephardic on my moms side!
@@EvaLasta how?
You never lived a jewish life and you have 90% goyim blood. Now you find out someone of your forefathers, you need to go by name so yes, father, was a jew in 1492. He finds that very interesting, likes to romanticize his life and says : Yeah … i am jewish. Within no time you’ll have an extra 1 billion jews. And no, that’s not a good thing coz it’s diluting the nation and making it weaker. Jews obviously have several goy forefathers and mothers. Be it Arabic or European. Hence the differences in racial appearance. Yet i never see a jew saying: Hé, i have a Bavarian forefather and then puts on the lederhose and starts clapping his legs. Thát would be the same thing and a bit odd.
This extends into the Southeastern area of the US. We tested 13 individuals from 9 different families. These individuals were from long established rural areas and their families had been there as long as they could remember. We tested 2 black, 1 brown and the rest were white presenting. All were Jewish and Hispanic and none had British DNA and all had Native American Admixture DNA. Our history is incorrect. We are the descendants of Sephardic Jews from the Expulsion and Native Americans. We speak English but we are Hispanic and Jewish.
Most Bnei Anusim already see themselves as Jews so to demand a conversion from them is a slap in the face, an insult. It wasn't their fault that their ancestors were forced to abandon Judaism. No Jew is 100% Jewish. I think Bnei Anusim should be welcomed into the Jewish nation as all Jews are Jews.
André Nunes you're ben anusim?
Yinon Dukhan Yes I am Bnei Anusim, 3 out of 4 of my grandparents were of Jewish descent. I consider myself a Jew and no one has the right to tell me I am not. Living in Iberia doesn't change my blood, doesn't change my ancestors.
André Nunes Shalom André. Well done! They are trying to creat levels in Judaism: who is "pure" who is "dirty"..? This is a shame
André Montejunto : Ola irmão,
Ja fiz um Retorno oficial para aprender mais sobre o Judaismo meu primo ?
Da cual terra es? Queres falar commigo por messages no outro lado ? 😊
I agree Im a descendant of it as well. My complexion is dark brown
I mean God did promise the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob would be as numerous as the stars of the sky and sand of the beach... so they must be jews...
Wasn't it only to Abraham? So Ishamel and Abraham's children by Ketorah should be included.
God a real estate and land agent?
Israelis are generally very smart people from Corey's videos I've seen
I grew up in a open minded religious family and our conversations were full of thinking opinions and research
@ZadfrackGlutz Zesozose it's not that idea isn't smart, it's just that nationalism itself is irrational. There's no real solid reason to conserve any nation, be it jews or newly invented palestinians or anyone else. Of course, for nation to disappear it takes a genocide (in case of jewish nation it didn't worked out very well), it sure brings casualties most people won't tolerate. Disappearance of the unique culture with it's own tradition and set of ideas are also a problem, but you cannot evaluate the price of idea until it hits someone and helps him with his research, say, or any other development and contribution to intellectual history. So all of the traditions and ideas might be deemed equally priceless, both important and unimportant.
Those who are secular yes. Haredim not so much.
@@Rolando_Cueva According to you, you must be the latter because you're an idiot for saying that.🤣
Absolutely
What happens is most of the Anusim just lost the trace of their Judaism. There are A GREAT NUMBER of Jews in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central and South America. But somehow the genealogy got lost at some point for many reasons. I was born in Cuba and after 64 years they still have a dictatorship. There are only two Sinagogs in Havana and one of them is used for the National Symphonic Orchestra rehearsals. The other one I don't know.
This is what I think. You can have 100% Jewish DNA, have in your possession the VERY key of your ancestors' house in Sefara, and a very Jewish last name, and still have to go through conversion! That's in case you want to be religious, that's why you need a conversion. If you want to be a "Cultural Jew", you don't need any of that.
One thing is true, Halakha has kept the Jews as an ethnic group alive! There were so many nations named in the Tanak and most of them are GONE! The Hebrew language is alive, the Yiddish language is alive and the Ladino language is alive.
I really appreciate the honesty in these videos. You see the good, bad, ugly and beautiful of different Israeli opinions. It's real, not fluff.
Well, in Spain many people have jewish ascendance, many of them lose the jewish customs because were forced by the Inquisition, many of them were watched, others simply had the very bad luck of losing the parents (or the cryptojew one), being orphan no one could teach anything to that people, anyway the process for searching your family roots and conversion is really really expensive and slowly.
Please dont forget Portugal. More Conversos stayed in Portugal than Spain.
My ancestors were Jews who converted to Christianity during the 18th and 19th centuries in Denmark. There was a time when the Danish crown allowed for Jews to enter but made everyone undergo a Lutheran baptism. Today there are also many Danes who are really Jews.
Chaya Bat-Tzvi really? From other comments you wrote that you're a yeke
German-Danish.
Chaya Bat-Tzvi : Hi Chaya, where did your ancestors come from?
Which country?
My first thoughts were that there's no way you can trace your mother's line for 500+ years. Second thoughts are that we are talking about a set household customs, any one of which could have risen independently, but coming together indicate just one thing: a Jewish inheritance.
These are household customs, and traditionally the home has been the domain of women. Would a woman pick up unexplained domestic customs of her husbands family? It's indicative of an unbroken female line.
My understanding is that the Torah went with inheriting religion from the father, but the Talmud went for inheritance through the mother's line. Why did this change? The Talmud wasn't completed until 6th century, and it was becoming obvious that, without the temple, prayers might take place in a synagogue dominated by men, but religion observance was preserved in the home.
When survivors of the inquisition were found in remote villages in Portugal early in 20th century, studies showed it was the women who kept the traditions going.
Over the course of 500 years the anusim had not remembered their Jewish origin and it's impossible to know, so for the tiny minority that wish to rejoin the Jewish people it's probably safest to go through a conversion process. Why? Because customs performed by tradition are no more than that. The conversion process tells you why your family does these things and revives rituals that were lost. There is conversion process and it is designed to test the sincerity of converts. Merely declaring your belief in the Jewish faith has never been sufficient. Once you have gone through the conversion process, whatever your roots, you are seen as a full member of the faith.
You are right and wrong. Many of the ANusim remembered and kept their customs over 500 years, Indeed, by Genetic Analysis they have a higher percentage of ancient Hebrew DNA than the average Jew who is non -Anusim. Now, you are right, the Torah makes it clear descent is through the father.
I took a DNA test and I matched 100 Chuetas " Jews of Majorca". The problem is that I matched others ethnic groups as well. But yes 500 years ago some of my ancestors were Jews. That said no-one can convince me that these Ashkenazi people do not have Slavic and other groups in their ancestry. There are no pure Jews left from a racial point of view. Maybe a few that were isolated in the Middle East.
“Merely declaring your belief in the Jewish faith has never been sufficient.”
This is patently untrue!
Ruth declared to her mother in law Naomi that her G-d was now Ruth’s G-d, etc. and she was through this declaration and devotion accepted as Jewish. And she is the grandmother of none other than King David himself!!!
"Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your G-d my G-d. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely, if even death separates you and me."
Chances are they're ethnically Jewish, so if they keep Jewish traditions too - then they're Jewish. A secular Jew is still considered Jewish because of ethnicity.
Me too!!!
:-)
ņиʞɔноuʁ ņоʚоɓоdоɹ and gur ruh
Gur ruh recently spoke about Soviet crimes and Jewish involvement. You should discuss this topic among each other,
ņиʞɔноuʁ ņоʚоɓоdоɹ
Cant find it right now, but gur ruh knows well what he said.
Only if the secular person has a Jewish mother, then yes. Absolutely.
If it is from the father, then sorry, but you need to convert. You will be considered Zera Yisra'el, but that does not mean you are Jewish. You still need to convert.
I descend of a Jewish family by my mother side, she even gave me a name of an Israeli prime minister 😂
Hello everyone, I'm one bnei anussim living in Brazil,yet. Do you thought about it? Imagine your children were forced to stop practicing Judaism and forcibly converted to other religions? It is very sad to be despised by your brothers. It reminds me of Yossef...
Hi im from Israel, and im religious jew, im very glad to read what you've written.
First, u r brothers forever,
Second, Im not a Rabbi, But it seems to me , that according to the Judaism law, who his or her jew mom, is jew,
Who doesn't know that, if he or she wants to be religious, he or she supposed to be converting, but we have to respect more as brothers.
Anyway we ❤️ and respect u, and we are very sorry for u.
I'll be happy to help if I'll could
@@danielkeshet8675 thanks a lot for your answer! I'm religious too, my brother. My contact is +5561982948216 if you want talk more about our tradition or anything.
muitos bnei-anusim no Brasil são descedentes dos cristãos novos. existem duas correntes de migração de descendentes de judeus, a primeira de cristão novos foi no começo da colonização com os bandeirantes e a segunda com a chegada dos holandeses. muitos são descendentes por parte de pai.
But why do you feel despises. There are entire communities of anusim that ive read about welcomed and loved. If youd really love Judaism as you sound why wouldn't you be happy to understand its regulations and be happy to convert lchumra. They seem to be in those communities.
They are Jewish, if their ancestors are Jewish and if they feel belonging to Jewish nation.
As I'm not Jewish, I see it the same way.
But strict Jews apparently see this differently
Judaizam je naša tradicionalna religija, baš kao što je katolicizam tradicionalna religija Hrvata. A ako neki Hrvat pređe u pravoslvanu religiju, sa time neće postati Srbin. Mi smo u prvom redu narod i oduvijek smo to i bili.
Commentator, did you forget that Ruth converted to Judaism over 3000 years ago, how do you say that conversion is something new?
@Rodent's Revenge the Bible?
Why do Jews reject The patrilineal line ( in hebrew Bible It was patrilineal)
A Jew is a person born to a Jewish mother or who converted according to the Torah. Doesn't matter if your ancestors were Jewish, unless that was passed continuously though the maternal line, they are not Jewish. No question. This is what the Torah says.
As far as I know, the Torah teaches that the paternal lineages are the ones that count, you can clearly see this reflected on lineages throughout the Torah. Please share some scripture as to where it says maternal line.
@@gabrielaugust9451he meants oral law rabbinic judaism not torah
@@Fellowrser so its not what the torah says but what rabbis have agreed
Actually I am a Marrano from a Latin American country (my family came from Spain) and I'm Marrano on the mother's side and I went through a ghiur b'chumrah.
However before my official return, my rabbi (orthodox) ruled that I was a sofek (doubt) so I couldn't be shunned away while also I could not be part of a minyan.
I went through a conversion but it was arranged so that an actual convert before being a Jew said the bracha for both of us, I said "amen" and we both went in the mikveh. That way I wouldn't be saying the name in vain.
This was as per a Sephardic Rosh Yeshiva in Israel.
So are you considered as a genuine jew who was in the diaspora and needs to complete his baptism to be as ( a real jew ), or you are considered as "magir" converted jew? Sorry for the question but I could not understand your terminology since you use a lot of Hebrew words. Thank you!
So some ritual endows rights of iheritance? The children of Israel hold a promise that no mumbo-jumbo nor opinions can rightfully change this.
@@H.G689 Shalom Aleichem.
I'm considered a genuine Jew that was born in the diaspora because most Jews understand this complicated part of Jewish history.
But as of hard proof, the strongest is the paper of proper religious conversion. Which I prefer, because it saves me from being a bastard/mamzer (whose mother is a married Jew but had a child with someone else) then I would only be allowed to marry another Jewish born bastard withing 10 generations from the original bastard born.
ok so I am a convert who is middle eastern, my DNA analysis shows I am related to peoples of Syria, Palestinian Arabs, jordanian, Bedouin of Negev, Jewish groups in the middle east and the Caucasus as well as Yemenite. untill now, a blonde or a red head white Jew by birth calls me ( an imposter and not a real jews)... that is absurd.
elissashams you're arab?
it’s not about DNA. It’s a people who also have their own unique religion and people can join us and in fact can leave over time. Teresa of Avila was of Jewish extraction and no one would call her a Jew
well if a "white jew" has a mothers kesubbeh its more reliant than some random brown person saying that his ancestors 400 years ago were jews. Jew isnt determined by colour of your skin or ethnicity its determined by halacha( like this case with bnei anusim) If you convert there is no doubt you are jewish.
The Holy Bible says the Father determine your pedigree not the mother so I guess we reading two different bibles. Old and New Testament uses the Father( patriarchal lineage)
Correct
It's the Talmud that's say's the mother side determines
Nobody ever says the father. Maybe just the new testament reconstruction and invention.
not really, I think the rabbinate knows more about jewish law than you also
Some of Bnei Anusim do not know that their great grand parents were jewish. They are already melted with Spanish society.
The Bnei Anusim of the Spanish island of Majorca are called the Chuetas. Their position is unique in that the overwhelming majority of the Chuetas practice endogamy and have done so since their forced conversion to Catholicism in Spain in 1492. They are outwardly Roman Catholic but continue to practice aspects of Judaism within their tight-knit community of some 20,000 souls on the island. Crucially, the vast majority of Chuetas have always married within the 15 family names that comprise the Chueta community on the island. In that case, it is likely that most members of the community are, by halacha, Jewish through the maternal line. B"H.
I'm brazilian, my family came from Portugal as new cristians...until my granmother my mother's family side did endogamy from 1500 until 1903 and theny grand grandmother hady granmother, my mother and than me.
How to be reconized by Israel as jewish since I was born from a jewish mother?
I can help
There are many traces of jewish genes in iberia and ibero-america, but, very few people whose mother is or was jewish. A lot of people from latinamerica are trying to get (or already have gotten it) spanish or portuguese nationality, because that opens more possibilities for their future (belonging to the eurepean union, etc.), but most of those people (including my brother and a few more people I know) only have a small % of jewish genes, inherited from 400 years ago or more. I think in most cases it's more a desire to migrate to more prosperous countries, than wanting to go back to a religious origin. In my case, I'm from northeastern Mexico.
You are asking only ashkenazi ortodox reformist Jews, who are more reconstructive, conservative and very tight to traditions, in the other hand you have Sefardic Jews from Spain and Portugal that prays in saduk mizrahi and are more traditional in keeping a balance between jewish culture and religion without lossing interaction with the rest of the world, this is because we instead try to influence the rest of the people within our religion. We still be brothers with ashkenazis but quiet diferent practicing some laws.
torah teaches that fathers count …… when,inthe torah we took census … a jew was counted by the tribe , by the male.. .. the ultras and orthos can say what they want but they can't deny the torah
Theres no recognized Jewish community in the world that regards it by the father. Just that in and of itself is proof of the reality. The way it was brought down through history is the proof in the pudding.
The gentleman n 0:37 is wrong that the Torah teaches that ur a Jew through your mother’s bloodline falsely started by an Askenaxi rabbi over 1,000 years ago.. It’s actually through your father’s bloodline.
Beautiful subject
Man at 1.58 is the wisest
Hehe! "...free trips to bora bora...".
That's a good one!
What if you are bnei anusim (converso) and your mom and her mom etc. Were brought up within the catholic faith but still kept the history that they are be anusim? Does it still count?
All religions were invented in the middle east by Jews. Christianity created by Jews, Islam created by Jews and Jusaism created by Jews. Only 3 religions in the world created by Jews who were rebellious.
@@gustavobarajas6155 Mohammad was Arab...? How is Islam created by Jews? They take the Torah and Ingeel as holy book but that’s doesn’t make them Jew. Ishmael, the father of the Arabs was not Jewish. The nation comes from Isac, through Jacob -later called Israel.
I asked this question a long time ago and you finally got around to asking it. Gee..thanks Corey. Although you're kinda a jerk for not replying at all.
I agree with Yaakov. It is sad that one's fore fathers decided not to marry a jewish woman or man. Or that one had to decide between judaism or life. But if one trully believes in the creator then knows tha HE is in control. And if one wants to return then has to do all the convertion process. and most important start getting used to following the laws. It better than do one of those quick convertions where you just have to pay money.
Cory : Bnei Anusim are not forcely converted to Islam ... but to Chrisitianity !!!
The case of Iranian Jews converted to Islam, i met a couple like that at the synagogue, they grandparents were forced to convert to Islam ... (lots of pressure..)
Bnei Anusim is only applied for Spanish, Portuguese, Latin American (Mexican, Brazilian, ...) becausd back then it was the OFFICIAL LAW in Iberian Peninsula and South American colonies (Latina America nowadays)
Jason Voorheese : oh yes thanks! I didn' t know :)
Don't forget Italy
Anusim refers to any Jew who was forced to convert to any other religion
Hello, My ancestors on my mothers side were Sephardic jews from Spain and Portugal my ancestors were the Levites/ Tribe of Levi, and it goes way back , at one point they converted to Catholicism, I am interested in reconnecting back to Judaism. :)
Why did you refuse to put on tefillin?
Bec he just loves to always say hes an atheist 😢.
The funny side is that Ashkenazis are descendants of jewish men but don't want to talk about that.
Its not really an opinion question. Its just a question of the facts. If they have a clear yichus they are Jewish. If they dont and they want to be Jewish they can convert.
PATRILINEAL VERSUS MATRIILINEAL PRACTICES IN JUDAISM :
In the Torah, tribal affiliation comes via the father, while the Israelites who were habituated to marrying foreign wives were later forbidden to marry females of other religions because the female upon marriage would corrupt the strict monotheism of Judaism centered on the sacred Tetragammaton with foreign influences of her ancestral religion.
The mixing of paganism with Judaism was seen as a serious threat to the fledgling monotheistic faith of Judaism and so a fiat went forth against the common practice of Hebrew men wedding polytheists, animists and other pagan women.
Another lesser known reason is that in the absence of DNA testing, it would be easy to identify whether a child was born to a mother following Judaism or to a mother of a foreign religion given the explicit signs of a woman's pregnancy that would be known to the whole village where her parents and siblings and extended family members lived and these facts would obviously be known to the villagers or even to the villagers living in villages in the vicinity.
The last guy I don’t understand how his Caucasian mother could make him a Jew lol
And asking people if they have to converted ... they don t even know whats that ...
I want to ask there is a theory one tribe of Israelites came and settled in Afghanistan . Today's pashtun people claimed they are the descendants of Bani Israel. What Jews think about them?
Are you Pashtun?
@@donventi3567 yes
@@rameezkhan2317 i can help you what's your whatsapp
As a Jew I didn't understand the name of the video at first... "Anusim" in Hebrew is raped.
Lol....i think we are the only 2. Of course i know what Anusim are but for some reason when i first saw the ques it first hit me that hes asking about rape but i was like why would he be asking that and i did a double take.
In the Torah it is NEVER claimed through the mother...... the promised seed was ALWAYS through the father. And by the Torah, I'm referring to the REAL TORAH which is in written form, not the cult version aka "Talmud".
Not really
Ezra 10
10 "While Ezra was praying and confessing, weeping and throwing himself down before the house of God, a large crowd of Israelites-men, women and children-gathered around him. They too wept bitterly. 2 Then Shekaniah son of Jehiel, one of the descendants of Elam, said to Ezra, “We have been unfaithful to our God by *marrying foreign women from the peoples around us*. But in spite of this, there is still hope for Israel. 3 *Now let us make a covenant before our God to send away all these women and their children, in accordance with the counsel of my lord and of those who fear the commands of our God. Let it be done according to the Law"*
Although, I could agree that in 21th century, a Jew is person who defined his/herself as part of Jewish nation.
Hey, Serbian - Ester 8-17 And many of the people of the land became Jews, for fear of the Jews fell upon them" . Jesus Mary and Josephus, Serbian, is that MASS CONVERSION. and that the bloodline of the promised seed was diluted from the very start.
Liz MAGA You clearly have zero understanding of Talmud and are only parroting what you have heard others say concerning it.
+ EVW
Quite right. She ain't got a clue where it comes from, or why it was written. Nor the origins of Rabbinic Judaism.
Liz MAGA
In the Torah, when the 12 tribes of Israel got started, it was because of the father Jacob who had son's with women, so Jews would get the heritage from their father AND their mother because the concubines that Jacob laid with, those children still made up part of the 12 original tribes of Israel. Go back to the beginning and look at what tribes came from what women, and there is a combined total of 12 son's, hence the 12 tribes of Israel.
I understand Crypto Jews, Anusim as categories defined by the degree of separation from mainstream Judaism. Crypto Jews define themselves in their family narratives as secret Jews. Crypto Jews consciously maintain some Jewish practices, as best they can, given their isolation from Judaism. Anusim are descendants of forced converts to Christianity, who practice Christianity. Crypto Jews would likely need a refresher course in Jewish religious practice. Anusim would likely need to start from scratch. If the word "conversion" is offensive, inflammatory, ditch it.
This is not a great subject. Hardly anyone asked knows much or anything about the subject.
There are several passages in the Torah where it is understood that the Child of a Jewish woman and a none Jewish father is a Jew., and a Child of a none Jewish mother and a Jewish father is not Jewish.. Devarim 7.1-5 ..Vayikra 24.10.. People it is not complicated .. but you need to learn Torah NOT just read the Bible .. You can't understand the Torah without the Oral Law
The Ashkenazi looking guy is Wrong We are not supposed to reject anyone who wants to convert... It is not halacha.. Invento de un groupo Ashkenazi..
Agree!
Concordo
I am real jew and my behaviour is more like arabs - abrahamatic, than anything else (europeans etc.). so you know...
The term Bnei Anusiem is only used for Jews who were forced to convert to Christianity. Where did you get Islam from?
That's what I was about to comment.
Great youtube channel! I didn't knew that jewish sefarads force to become catholics where called Bnei anusim! Tell you a secret: my mothers family name is "Herrera" (meaning blacksmith), recently that last name appear in a list of possible jewish converted people that scaped to South America, 'cause many sefarads change their lastname to the job (f. ex. being a blackshmith) they had. I dond't know if my mothers family is a 'Bnei Anusim', but they are from a little town in Peru, and descendt from the spanish that founded that town. My family kept some traditions thar very similar to jewish traditions, like food and the celebration of the eastern eating a lamb.
what other traditions do you thing are jewish, that your family has...i am from mexico and decended fro anusim, i want to compare
How wonderful. Any Jewish community would welcome you with open arms if youd be interested in converting and how could people be insulted by that if they themselves THINK they may be Jewish but admit they can't be sure.
If the Bnei Anusim want to be Jewish they are welcome but they have to go to a formal conversion .
YOu are a nutt. The Ashkenazi are the descendants of forced Khazarian converts, Many of the Anusim, kept their traditions in secret and have DNA back to Israel, YOur just a white racist Imposter masquerading as a Jew, Furthermore, DNA analysis shows that most Ashkenazi Jews dont have any Semitic DNA while the Anusim have a up to 75% ancient Hebrew DNA. Ashkenazie on average just 4 %.
@Bronco Zion "Welcome" to what? You are not even Jewish.
@@jonathanadams2592 you're crazy anti-semitic. Be a nice person.
Actually I am a Marrano from the mother's side and I went through a conversion. However my rabbi (orthodox) ruled that I was a sofek (doubt) so I couldn't be shunned away while also I could not be part of a minyan. I went through a conversion but it was arranged so that an actual convert would say the bracha for both of us, I said "amen" and we both went in the mikveh. This was as per a Sephardic Rosh Yeshiva in Israel.
@@jonathanadams2592 Ashkenazim are Khararian converts? Where did you come up with that BS? Even if there were Khazars who converted to Judaism, to suggest that all European Jews are descended from Khazars is ludicrous. Apparently, your elevator does not go all the way up to the top floor.
The practice of matrillineal descent didn't always exist. Before that theory you were jewish when your father was jewish. Nowadays reform-judaism also have other ideas about matrilineality. So.... Who is jewish? In my opinion someone can be completely jewish without having certificates. The same thing for christians or muslims.
reform judaism isnt judaism
Judaism is a religion and race combined! That being said, I think it's a religion that can actually be described as "racist", even though it's a religion!
Judaism is a religion, Jews are not a race, but a nation and have been counted as such for a very long time. Just as Britain is a nation composed of diverse people from all parts of the world, so is the Jewish nation.
As it so happens, the heartland of the Jewish nation is Eretz Yisrael.
It's Not a race :) it's ethnicity and religion both.
Mizrahi and Ashkeanzi Jews, representing 99% of world Jews share common genetic origin and are same people. Although Ethiopian and Chinese Jews are not genetically Jewish, and their ancestors left Judaism centuries ago(while in the case of Ethiopian Jews, even before converting to Christianity, they were not aware of Talmud) this two groups of Jews who are 1% of Jewish people, are spiritually Jewish.
On your request
1/5
Efforts to identify the origins of Ashkenazi Jews through DNA analysis began in the 1990s. Like most DNA studies of human migration patterns, these studies have focused on two segments of the human genome, the Y chromosome (inherited only by males), and the mitochondrial genome (mtDNA, DNA which passes from mother to child). Both segments are unaffected by recombination. Thus, they provide an indicator of paternal and maternal origins, respectively.
2A study of haplotypes of the Y chromosome, published in 2000, addressed the paternal origins of Ashkenazi Jews. Hammer et al. found that the Y chromosome of some Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. This suggested that the male ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to the Middle East. The proportion of male genetic admixture in Ashkenazi Jews amounts to less than 0.5% per generation over an estimated 80 generations, with " minor contribution of European Y chromosomes to the Ashkenazim,"
Points in which Jewish groups differ is largely in the source and proportion of genetic contribution from host populations. The proportion of male indigenous European genetic admixture in Ashkenazi Jews amounts to around 0.5% per generation over an estimated 80 generations, and a total admixture estimate "very similar to Motulsky's average estimate of 12.5%. More recent study estimates an even lower European male contribution, and that only 5%-8% of the Ashkenazi gene pool is of European origin.
3. A 2005 study by Nebel et al., based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their host populations in Europe. Nebel concluded that jewish genetics is wey much uniform and that the level of non israelite contribution to Jews is extremely low in cooperation to other nation and their non indigenous genetic makeup
Almut Nebel, Dvora Filon, Bernd Brinkmann, Partha P. Majumder, Marina Faerman, Ariella Oppenheim. "The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East
Wade, Nicholas (January 14 2006)
Recent studies point to a significant female founder ancestry deriving from the Middle East. A 2006 study by Behar et based on high-resolution analysis of haplogroup K(mtDNA), suggested that the current Ashkenazi population is descended matrilineally from just four women, or "founder lineages", that were " from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" originating in the Near East in the first and second centuries CE. Although Haplogroup K is common throughout western Eurasia, "the observed global pattern of distribution renders very unlikely the possibility that the four aforementioned founder lineages entered the Ashkenazi mtDNA pool via gene flow from a European host population."
4 In addition, Behar et al. have suggested that the rest of Ashkenazi mtDNA is originated from ~150 women, most of those were of Middle Eastern Israelite origin.
Behar, M.; Ene Metspalu, Toomas Kivisild, Alessandro Achilli, Yarin Hadid, Shay Tzur, Luisa Pereira, Antonio Amorim, Lluı's Quintana-Murci, Kari Majamaa, Corinna Herrnstadt, Neil Howell, Oleg Balanovsky, Ildus Kutuev, Andrey Pshenichnov, , Batsheva Bonne-Tamir, Antonio Torroni, Richard Villems, and Karl Skorecki (March 2006). "The Matrilineal Ancestry of Ashkenazi Jewry: Portrait of a Recent Founder Event" (PDF). The American Journal of Human Genetics 78 (3): 48797. doi:10.1086/500307. PMID 16404693. www.ftdna.com/pdf/43026_Doron.pdf. Retrieved on 2008-12-30.
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using complete sequences of the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), we show that close to one-half of Ashkenazi Jews, estimated at 8,000,000 people, can be traced back to only four women carrying distinct mtDNAs that are virtually absent in other populations, with the important exception of non Ashkenazi jews We conclude that four founding mtDNAs, Near Eastern ancestry, and can be described as a sovely Israelite mtDNA.This mt DNA was not found in any non jewish or semitic people searched (Palestinians,Turks,Kurds,Slavs and others)
Wade, Nicholas (January 14 2006)
Behar, M.; Ene Metspalu, Toomas Kivisild, Alessandro Achilli, Yarin Hadid, Shay Tzur, Luisa Pereira, Antonio Amorim, Lluı's Quintana-Murci, Kari Majamaa, Corinna Herrnstadt
"Jewish populations which have both cultural and physical uniformity, genetic studies have demonstrated most of these to be genetically related to one another, having ultimately originated from a common ancient Israelite population that underwent geographic branching and subsequent independent evolutions.
A study published by the National Academy of Sciences found that "the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population", and suggested that Jewish communities have remained isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora Researchers expressed surprise at the remarkable genetic uniformity they found among modern Jews, no matter where the diaspora has become dispersed around the world.[
Hammer, M. F.; A. J. Redd, E. T. Wood, M. R. Bonner, H. Jarjanazi, T. Karafet, S. Santachiara-Benerecetti, A. Oppenheim, M. A. Jobling, T. Jenkins, H. Ostrer, and B. Bonné-Tamir (May 9 2000). "Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 97: 6769. doi:10.1073/pnas.100115997. PMID 10801975.
Moreover, DNA tests have demonstrated substantially less inter-marriage in most of the various Jewish ethnic divisions over the last 3,000 years than in other populations.
"Even the archetype of Israelite-origin is also beginning to be reviewed for some Jewish populations amid newer studies. Previously, the Israelite origin identified in the world's Jewish populations was attributed only to the males who had migrated from the Middle East and then forged the current known communities with "the women from each local population whom they took as wives and converted to Judaism".Research in Ashkenazi Jews has suggested that, in addition to the male founders, significant female founder ancestry also derive from the Middle East, with the current Ashkenazi population descended matrilineally from just four women, or "founder lineages", that were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" originating in the Near East in the first and second centuries CE"
Wade, Nicholas (January 14 2006). "New Light on Origins of Ashkenazi in Europe". The New York Times. www.nytimes.com/2006/01/14/science/14gene.html?_r=1&oref=slogin. Retrieved on 2006-05-24.
DNA analysis further determined that modern Jews of the priesthood tribe - "Kohanim" - share a common ancestor dating back about 3,000 years. This result is consistent for all Jewish populations around the world. The researchers estimated that the most recent common ancestor of modern Kohanim lived between 1000 BCE (roughly the time of the Biblical Exodus) and 586 BCE, when the Babylonians destroyed the First Temple. They found similar results analyzing DNA from Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews. The scientists estimated the date of the original priest based on genetic mutations, which indicated that the priest lived roughly 106 generations ago, between 2,650 and 3,180 years ago depending whether one counts a generation as 25 or 30 years,, This mutations in DNA is used nowdays as exclusive Israelite base for comperation with other ethnic groups.
• Karl Skorecki, Sara Selig, Shraga Blazer, Bruce Rappaport, Robert Bradman, Neil Bradman, P.J. Waburton, Monic Ismajlowicz (January 2 1997). "Y Chromosomes of Jewish Priests" ([dead link] Scholar search). NATURE, Volume 385. www.familytreedna.com/nature97385.html.
• ^ a b c "Priestly Gene Shared By Widely Dispersed Jews". American Society for Technion, Israel Institute of Technology. July
www.aish.com/societywork/sciencenature/Jewish_Genes.asp
The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrahim (Middle Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim (Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J and E.
The National Academy of Science
www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewish-genetics/
The proportion of male indigenous European genetic admixture in Ashkenazi Jews amounts to around 0.5% per generation over an estimated 80 generations, and a total admixture estimate "very similar to Motulsky's average estimate of 12.5%."
Hammer, M. F.; A. J. Redd, E. T. Wood, M. R. Bonner, H. Jarjanazi, T. Karafet, S. Santachiara-Benerecetti, A. Oppenheim, M. A. Jobling, T. Jenkins, H. Ostrer, and B. Bonné-Tamir (May 9 2000). "Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 97: 6769. doi:10.1073/pnas.100115997.
CONCLUSIONS
The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrahim (Middle Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim (Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J E and K.
Ashkenazim also descend, in a WERY small way, from European peoples
"The main ethnic element of Ashkenazim (German and Eastern European Jews), Sephardim (Spanish and Portuguese Jews), Mizrakhim (Middle Eastern Jews), Juhurim (Mountain Jews of the Caucasus), Italqim (Italian Jews), and most other modern Jewish populations of the world is Israelite. The Israelite haplotypes fall into Y-DNA haplogroups J and E."
van Oransky. "Tracing Mideast Roots Back to Isaac and Ishmael: Study of Y Chromosome Suggests a Common Ancestry for Jews and Arabs." The Forward (May 19, 2000)
A jew is a jew ,in my opinion, related to his blood, no body could change his blood, no matter what, wether it's from his mother's side or father's side!
Even the Bible justifies this fact, a jew born from either from a jewish father or mother or both, he is a jew for all his life time.
he couldn't change his blood.
When Jacob sawJoseph's sons he didn't say that they are not part of the family, rather he gave them as his own sons and counted them as one of the the twelve tribes indeed. I don't know why it is taken only from the mother's side!
If that so,
all the 12 tribes were married to the non jew locals of that era, example Judah and his sons. The Bible teachs us that the grand children of Jacob including Mnashe and Efraim from Egypt all are Bnei Israel- Jews.
But today the laws and definitions of 'Jewishness' are so secular and controversial. It is dominated by small sects.
Dessi'el Girma What kind of logic is that???? DNA or Blood Cells do not contain any information about Religion. Religion is one's choice. Blood has nothing to do with religion. And Religion has nothing to do with blood.
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What about the Hebrew roots movement or Messanic jews wouldn't they be considered B'nei Anuism?
Mexico was under Spanish control the Portuguese were the only ones that accepted Jews to immigrate to their colonies. Brazil has the oldest synagogue of the Americas dating back to the 16th century maybe a few Jews existed in Mexico but the center of Sephardim diaspora was Brazil so much so that if someone during the colonial days was said to be a Brazilian they were automatically related as Jews. Many books talk about this fact. I don’t reject the idea of a few Sephardim existed in Cuba Mexico etc but their mas immigration was to Brazil so much so that it’s estimated today over 40 million Brazilians are what RamBam denominated Zera Yisrael. Even the last emperor of Brazil was fluent in Hebrew and translated many books to Brazilian Portuguese language a very interesting side note. Also many Sephardic family names are exclusive to the Portuguese colony like De Oliveira that are said to be the true levites (Cohen are Ashkenazi khazars and they are converts impossible for them to be the ancient priesthood).
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some of them followed Jewish traditions and laws many where crypto Jews others just know that someone was Jewish in their family tree . I think if they where raised with Jewish traditions and keep up with enough of that stuff they
are Jewish
So they can THINK theyre Jewish (which is very accurate that you use that word) but what about everyone else that has to KNOW theyd be Jewish to be able to marry in. Its not only a question about what someone wants to feel about themselves. Its a question of assuring the objective truth.
all those WHITE guys saying are jewish is kind of weird ..jewish people, specially ashkenazim are so mixed!
you can have the pale, redhead, blue-eyed person with perfectly Jesus genes, it's not a problem. Most of the phenotype is not observable anyway, and what you can see with naked eye can have a really wide spectrum of variations within any population.
@@israelgroysman5040 In reality most Ashkenzis have majority converts. Most Ashkenzais are semitic while the majority are not semitic. What most people do not understand is, how can a group of ashkenazi declare anti-semitisim even though they are not semitic?
@@gustavobarajas6155 dunno about most. At least i am 100% semitic, according to DNA test. And my family wasn't exceptional, it's just a regular ashkenazi family, there were millions like me in Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Austria and such.
@@israelgroysman5040 yes true" but not everone in the middle east es Arab tgey can be semitic but that does not mean that they are Arab or Jewish. The middle east us a multietunic place. Lets take Syria people who's language is Aramaic yet have nothing to do with the Arab world. It turns out that most Syrians are actually Jewish but tbe majority of people do not even know that. And that includes Regular Jews as well as Saudis. Judaism does have to embrace it multiculturalism because it has alot of diversity. But to refuce Judaism to just Ashkenzai is actually short sided and confusing. It really does turn out that most middle easterners are actually Jewish.
@@gustavobarajas6155 see, your point previously was that if someone hates some particular group of Jews (say, Ashkenazi jews), then he's not necessarily antisemitic, because Jews are not purely ethnic but rather ethnoreligious group. If i understood correctly what you have to say.
I know someone here in Kuwait, She's Egyptian by origin, Mizrahi Jew from the paternal and maternal side but converted to Christianity in the era of King Farouq then Islam in the era of Jamal Abdulnasser, May Allah rest his soul, and then travelled in the early 50's to Kuwait, worked and lived in Kuwait, they don't regret they're heritage nor repudiate what they are, and one of they're respected family member is married to a Kuwaiti Muslim man and she's a nurse, and living a good life. The good thing is that she's a strong Muslim believer (although liberal) but knows some hebrew language, and when I converse with her I would say to her "mashlimkha, Besedir ?!" "bokratov" or "lelatov" something like that, she laughs and answers back. Jews are respectful but I don't like the government of Israel because I see Israel as an illegitimate country and that Muslims should rule NOT zionists ! As long as the Jews are in Palestine, they would stay, continue their tradition, but NOT exclude Palestine, and the land is for Palestinians ONLY, No one can take it from them, and inshallah one day it'll be back.
Jews are mostly Palestinian by descent. Many simply just returned to Palestine after centuries of exile. Other zionists have lived in palestine for centuries. Genetic studies prove that most zionists are palestinian, not eastern europeans.
Lots of early zionists came from Baghdad, Iraq, Kurdistan, Dagestan, and Iran. Later, North African zionists came. All zionists from these countries are nearly identical genetically to many zionists from europe.
There is nothing wrong being zionist. Cyrus the great was zionist, and he was a gentile.
Many palestinian arabs are immigrants as well, coming from other arab countries and ultimately are arabians, mixed with european, african, and some jewish dna.
@@isaacder3i121 There has never been and never will be "Palestinians". Why are we using a term that was a pejorative given by the Romans to the Jews after the Jewish wars? Palestine comes from the Latin Palestina. This term was applied by the Roman Emperor Hadrian. Hardrian hated the Jews, so he used the Latin form of "Philistines", the arch enemy of Israel, to besmirch the Jews of the day. He also renamed Jerusalem, "Aelia Capitolina" and yet, nobody today calls Jerusalem by that name. So why do people still use that fake name "Palestine" today?
לטעמי, בשביל השעשוע זה טוב, אבל לשאול אנשים שאלות שונות, כשרגע לפני כן אין להם מושג במה המדובר, וכל אחד יענה לפי הלך רוחו הכללית כשאין לו יד ורגל בבעיות שהסוגיה מציגה, זה קצת ביזבוז זמן אם לא מעבר, בני אנוסים הינו נושא טעון וכאוב מאוד מחד, ומורכב הלכתית מאידך, צריך לגלות אמפתיה ורגישות לכל אדם ובמיוחד למי שאינו אשם בכוונה תחילה בהתבוללותו, ומאידך לשמור בתבונה על ההלכה שבלעדיה אין היהדות מה שהיא בכלל, לעזור להם להחליט על עתידם, לבחון ברגישות את האמת הפנימית שלהם, אבל מבלי להרוס חלילה את חומות השמירה של דת ישראל מבפנים, נושאים כאלו אינם משחק ילדים לדעות רחוב, זה לא כדורי רחוב... ולא ניתן להביע דעה סתם כך
This matriarchal dogma that your mother must be Jewish and homologated by the larger Jewish community is ridiculous. This is not a mitzvah, if it was true and then the children of Moses we’re not Jewish his wife was Ethiopian.
I am a bnei anusim my fathers are portuguese jews, i will not convert. I also dont accept that being a jew is passed through the mother. Torah is clear that it it through the father what makes you a israelite by nationality. And being an israelite i am supposed to have the right to go the land of my nationality..
YHWH 2508 : Ola irmão, mas não queres fazer um Retorno para aprender mais?
Podemos falar em mesagem escondido?
YHWH 2508
Yes, I agree.
Are you saying there is a difference between Isrealites and Jews?
Estoy de acuerdo cieno porciento
@YHWH 2508 So what if you don't accept it? The mitzbot were not chosen democratically and the Torah was not written after a market analysis or a survey. And just for the record, there were no nationalities back then, and the State of Israel won't grant you citizenship just because you happen to interpret the Halacha in a capricious manner.
Na medida que nos medimos Los outros mediremos a nosotros.
I still don't why "anusim" one to convert back to judaism.. like who would want to be a part of the most hated group in the world?
+Yinon Dukhan Because they feel the need to keep their heritage alive against all odds. And nobody hates the Jews except for radical Muslims, neonazis and conspiracy bozos.
PILMAN last I checked judaism is not a missionary religion and rabbis in latin america and the iberian ignore them like they don't exist. Can you please give me a source?
*And who cares that the Islamozis hate us? Hatred corrodes the soul, that's why you are soulless!, fiendish*
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Cuz they have the Jewish pride in themselves
The Torah teaches you are Jewish through your father.
I agree thats a talmud teaching
Bnei Anusim the real Israelites and Judeans having to go through conversion done by Ashkenazi khazars converts to become “jews” is like the British needing the blessing of the Chinese to become Europeans.
All religions should be carried forward through the mother's line. You know it makes sense.
you are right... that world would be become more peacful...
Answer me this: Muslims say that a Muslim man can marry a non-Muslim woman and their children are Muslims, yet, a Muslim woman cannot marry a non-Muslim man. So, are you basically saying that one's bloodline is carried forth only by matriarchal and not patriarchal lines? Muslims will tell you that the father's line is more important than the mother's line.
They are probably messianic and it's terrible. They have to convert.
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All latinamerica is israel don’t ignore as
Ese tipo del sombrero negro son de lis descendientes de los Zajaros rusos, no tiene ni gota de judios. Son conversos.
half israel looks not really jewish
Weird question & weird answers. How can you expect someone's mother to be Jewish - this person's ancestors had converted 500 years ago to Christianity & lived their Christian lives for hundreds of years? These people are not Jews in any meaningful sense of the word, and no amount of MyHeritage or 23andme would change that. I'm puzzled by behavior of these people. Probably some kind of personal crisis & psychological issues. Other than that, most Spanish people with some Jewish (and Roman, and Germanic, and Celtic,...) ancestry wouldn't care about it at all. Provided they're mentally stable ...
some people want the status as jews without needing to do any work