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We off-road to the DEEPEST water crossings in Colorado
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Clohesy Lake and Halfmoon Gulch looked like they have the deepest water crossings around from a recent CORE video. We go search for them with a stock Jeep Wrangler JL, modified Nissan Xterra, and Toyota T100. Trail Guide of Clohesy Lake and you'll see how far we get on Halfmoon Gulch (Funtreks Books), Champion Mill (CORE), Halfmoon Creek (trails offroad). Filmed on July 1st, 2023 which also was the weekend everyone was using to celebrate Independence Day! Trails are between Leadville Colorado and Buena Vista Colorado.
Channel Members have access to our filming schedule and I want you to be in the videos! The Black Bear crew gets additional easy to edit videos but offer more up to date info on trails (since guides take a while to put together). The Holy Cross crew gets more say in what videos get edited for the channel (video credits and early looks at Trail Guide edits). / @coloradomallcrawlers
Check out CORE (they fight to keep trails open... worth your support! they have ours):
www.keeptrailsopen.com/
CORE's VIDEO that inspired me to find these water crossings:
• Colorado 4x4 Trails I ...
Time Stamps:
00:00 Our Search begins
00:45 How to get to Clohesy Lake
1:00 This Trail starts off right
3:25 Clohesy Lake Trail Guide
10:40 Was it worth it?
12:05 How to get to Halfmoon Gulch/Champion Mill
12:29 Iron Mike Scouting Guide
16:05 I didn't know an Xterra could do that!
17:35 Disappointed with Fiat
18:14 Onto Champion Mill
Jeep JL Mini Review: I've been a big supporter of wheeling stock as I did it for years in my Jeep Wrangler JK without any issues. I'm mostly disappointed in that I trusted FCA/JEEP/FIAT/WHATEVER to keep the JL protected like the JK did. Full Video Review of the Jeep Wrangler JL coming, but being pushed back as we are getting data from Sean as he just bought a JLU. In the meantime, the JL is a very capable Jeep, but I will no longer buy MOPAR parts as they are no longer worth the money in my opinion. We'll dive into this.
About Colorado Mallcrawlers:
We are a channel that aims to show incredible off-road trails and our adventures to get through them with stock or your not so typical off-road vehicles. If that sounds like a fun watch, we'd love to have you as a subscriber!
Dewie's Current Vehicles:
2021 stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL (CO)
2005 stock Jeep Liberty KJ Rocky Mountain Edition (TN)
2004 stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon TJ (CO)
The Main Crew's vehicles include a 2019 modified Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (Sean), 2021 stock Jeep Wrangler Unlimited JLU (Sean), 2000 modified Nissan Xterra, Mystery Project (Drew). We have a variety of friends with cool vehicles that will show up from time to time.
Here's one of our Trails playlists:
• Summit County Off-road...
Hey guys, these trails were a lot of fun and I think you’ll want to do them too! Hope you enjoy the trail guide! We’ll have a live premiere tomorrow (4/26/23) at 5:30p. I’m on call at work so I may not be able to be in the chat, but Sean or Drew will be! -Dewie
wrong date but here I am :)
@@DeanJohnson67I got a lot going on.
Your willingness to post the directions is quite gentlemanly, very rare
These trails all of ours… the only thing I ever ask is that my viewers take care of the trails/camp spots leaving them better than they were found.
@coloradomallcrawlers rode out with someone else's Gatorade bottle yesterday, seems Im always picking up others trash
Really impressed with how the T100 did on all of this.
I really prefer this channels more common, more accessible vehicles vs the CZcams Jeep channel meta of hemi/ls swapped, one tons, on 40+ inch tires. These guides are so much more useful to the general public.
That was what my focus was as I was getting tired of being told I needed 37s for trails I did in my stock JK. I do think the JL is overpowered for CO tho so I’ll be switching to the TJ once I pick it up and make sure it’s reliable. I can’t wheel a TJ rubicon well so that’ll be fun to get through these trails. I’ll likely put 35s on the JL, keep the TJ stock. TJ will eventually have 33s, but I’ll have a new stock vehicle when I do that.
I love Half Moon Gulch.
I have been stuck on the obstacle at 16:34!
Would have been a really bad day for my Taco if I didn't have sliders!
Lol
Sliders are key!
You have a very nice personable way about you and just take us on a lot of nice fun beautiful drives. My wife is retiring next year and we will be doing many you show and camp.
I truly appreciate that, thank you!
Drew is a beast!
Yes he is!
That final rock obstacle was crazy! I am impressed by how easy you made it look. So many cool trails I can't wait to try.
Drew rocked it! Thanks buddy!
Thanks! It certainly would have gone a bit smoother with a spotter. I got hung up on the right side by a flat shelf I couldn't see. But some trial and error eventually worked in my favor.I think I earned my Pro4X decals with this one.
Love the CORE t-shirt
Yeah, they’re the one organization we sponsor as a minor sponsor.
I have a new respect for xterra's after that iron Mike water crossing
For sure! He nailed it!
nice
Just WOW !!! I can't believe I just saw this video and again love to see different 4x4s playing together I wish my wife would let wheel her Xterra don't take me wrong I am a Jeep guy mine is a YJ on 37s with everything else in between but I'm also a Nissan guy I have a 03 Xterra and a 90 two doors Pathfinder that I wanna build but not sure witch rout to go with something lighter then my Jeep but capable like Drew's. Keep those videos coming.
I’m a Jeep guy too, but love seeing other stuff on the trails. Just wheeled a Jimny for two days. It was sweet! Thanks for watching!
Man I love water crossings definitely one of my favorite parts of off roading
Same here!
Clohesy Lake looked amazing.
Definitely want to go there someday.
It’s a great trail! You’ll love it!
The water crossing is usually very shallow. Once your past that part the trail is basically a dirt road similar to a lot of dirt roads and lakes in the area. Mt. Princeton has some cool spots.
Great video man! Always love when you post some new videos and show us all these crazy trails that aren’t covered very much on video or even known about most of the time
Thanks buddy! With the quick edits, that’s the goal. I have one from moab to knock out and one me and Sean did that’s known, but not covered in videos a lot.
@@coloradomallcrawlers ya for sure here soon I’ll be messaging you and asking about some good trails up here in northern Colorado that are easier to take my wife and my almost year and a half daughter on for the first time.
Thanks for sharing.. so much fun ..
Our pleasure!
Great video. I had not known about these trails but now I need to try them.
Thank you!
You guys tackled some of my favorite local trails and did them justice from the looks of. I'd imagine this was a super fun video to put together.
It sure was and thank you for that!
Great videos! Thanks for responding to my Jeep question on TFL. I found your channel and started watching these videos. Great work! I look forward to buying an off road vehicle in the next year and these are super helpful.
Awesome! Thank you!
That T100 did pretty good but it looks like that rear limited slip may have used up all the "limited" it once had. Maybe time for a Detroit locker in the back.
Yeah maybe so! I know she put new tires on it.
I did Clohesy about a month ago and the crossing wasn't too bad going up, but coming back through late afternoon was deep. Such an awesome trail though!
Awesome! I love it when the water is deep… it wasn’t too bad for us tho.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Its really cool to check out that spot during winter when its all frozen.
I bet!
Another beautiful trail and great edit! So jealous!
Thanks buddy!
Beautiful trail and landscapes.
They are!
Would you say these trails are are much easier / safer than Devil's punch bowl, Peal, etc. from your other video? I'll be watching that next! 🤘 Mostly concerned with rollover / off camber/ exposure... Thank! Amazing video! 👏❤
In terms of rollover potential, yes! Thank you!
Great video - looking forward to more KJ content!
I’m looking forward to wheeling it… unfortunately I’m at the mercy of the local TN mechanic and what’s going on with my parents. All I know is it’s safe and it will get fixed… just not sure when. The TJ will soon replace the JL and the unlocked TJ and KJ are somewhat similar in off-road performance.
Hi Dewie, I absolutely love your channel and can’t thank you enough for all the information you include in your videos! I recently purchased a stock KL Trailhawk (2019), and as a Jeep newbie, channels like yours are a tremendous help for those of us that have limits with our vehicle and skill level. I also love that you mentioned how these 4x4 trails have more purpose than people realize, like bringing your mother to places she wouldn’t be able to see otherwise. I would love to take my elderly mother on some easier scenic trails. She loves the mountains, but doesn’t get out that much anymore. Even though I’m excited about getting off the beaten path, I feel like there’s a lot to learn first, and your channel has been a great source! …Btw, congrats on the TJ, an old familiar ride with so many new memories to be made, love it!
Thank you and that’s exactly why I want to make these good! We are working to increase our production, it’s just tough with my job. Thanks about the TJ… finally getting to wheel it this weekend.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Nice! I hope you have a great adventure!
Nice Video !!
That Toyota driver did amazing !!
Very capable 4x4 !!
People really underestimate what trucks can do.
Yes they do!
Ok, that was awesome. And the Xterra was a beast! Nice to see some legit off-roading. New sub here.
Glad you liked it! The xterra definitely was! Welcome!
Great video! Enjoy watching your videos because I can't afford a separate heavily modified rig, but I enjoy taking my mostly stock 4Runner on trails. Your videos match my risk tolerance.
Awesome! The goal is to step down to that stock TJ and Liberty which should be even better for others without wranglers.
@@coloradomallcrawlers I live in the Nashville area. I appreciated when you went down Hurricane Creek. Following CORE's videos now too. Missed not seeing any new content last winter. Hope all is well (to include the camper build) and thanks for the great videos!
I got horse creek and Dick’s creek filmed but not edited. Cool trails on the same level as hurricane creek. Near Erwin, TN. I’m just overworked at work (well the moving all around is making me feel like rag doll) so I haven’t had a chance to edit them (they don’t have any written guides so I’ll create waypoints like for hurricane creek). Just don’t have the time to do it right now.
One of your best videos ever yet!
The footage and editing is incredible!!
Wow, thank you! I think forcing myself to edit quickly is helping me to not overthink it as I may have been on some of the older edits.
@@coloradomallcrawlers I am looking forward to the day that you I and Geoff from Colorado 4 x 4 we all together and make a group three-way CZcams video
That’d be a blast!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I think it would be something definitely unique to the CZcams community if three of us got together and did something like that.
I love the diversity of vehicles you cruise with! Seems like its always jeeps together , or yotas, they don't mix often enough and that's silly.
I like having diversity in these videos. Would have more if it wasn’t for my schedule. Got a lot to edit with a wide range of vehicles like 6th gen broncos, Toyotas, etc.
@@coloradomallcrawlers it gets old just watching incredibly capable built rubicons and Tacomas anyways. It's more interesting seeing a stock or slightly modified vehicle navigate obstacles on easier trails that would just be a speed bump for a build out. Digging your content, subbed. Keep it up!
I agree… I’m switching to the stock TJ for my next trail guide filming sessions (Imogene and Poughkeepsie). Hopefully my Liberty will get fixed and start filling in for my wranglers in the future too. Truth is, for many Colorado trails, my stock JL is overpowered for them.
@@coloradomallcrawlers Poughkeepsie will be a decent challenge in a stock TJ, and absolutely a walk in the park for your JL. It's the same thing at the drag strip for me.. an alcohol car is fun and all, but street legal cars racing is so much more relatable. Not all of us can afford a built car dedicated to just the track or just the trail. I've had fun driving sedans on washed out dirt roads, picking a line like a jeep on an obstacle.
The Clohesy Lake water crossings can get deeep! Here's my XJ (RIP Vera) with 4.5in lift and 31s back in '17: czcams.com/video/3c4ZRZHSqeg/video.html
That was awesome to watch! Sorry to hear Vera is no longer with you.
Wait…what? You didn’t try crossing the Delores into Utah west of Glade Park! 😮
That’s on our list… see description.
I think that the deepest water i have seen was on Lininger cutoff (FS 811.B). I swear I pushed a bow wave with my 05 F350
Oh man that sounds awesome! I’ll check it out, thanks!
Is there a way you can show a stock 4xe Sahara trim do a moderate to difficult trail? I'm curious how it would perform off-road without any off-road dedicated feature like in the rubicons and also how the extra battery weight affects it.
I can’t buy anymore Jeeps. The Sahara 4XE only needs better tires (not bigger, just decent MTs or ATs), side protection (rock rails), and skids to be safe to take on moderate and difficult CO trails. All wranglers are very capable even the 4XE. Jeep does a good job of making them all capable, but just not so good at protecting them anymore (so I recommend aftermarket rails/skids).
In all my videos, I wheel like an open differential Jeep (unless I indicate that I needed lockers… I hardly ever need lockers in CO). The JL is the most capable stock Jeep ever made… so much that I’m going to start wheeling a less capable stock TJ for these trail guides. If the TJ can do the trail unlocked, then a lot of newer vehicles including your Sahara 4XE could do the trail easily. The biggest thing for you is going to be getting out there and improving your confidence. I could get a Sahara 4XE with the minor mods I noted through most difficult CO trails (exception Mount Blanca and Holy Cross). Next week’s video will likely be useful to you!
Confused with your written statement at 9:35 mark with camping. Always thought you could still camp in wilderness/national forest area but obviously can't drive 100ft off the trail. So are you on the search for a new job/career? If so best and good luck with your future endeavor.
I believe it just driving. Not job hunting, but they’ll eventually try to get rid of me like they did to the brakemen. I am developing a plan for when that time comes tho. I hope it doesn’t as I like working on the railroad especially if 11 on and 4 off happens.
The water crossing on tincup pass is higher right now 🤷
That’s true!
Submarines can go 2,000 feet deep and that's deeper than mirror lake. Tons of fools have hydro locked there engines this year destroying them.
Waters not your friend in a vehicle.
Hello you think my stock tacoma would be able to do this trail??
Yes, I do!
@@coloradomallcrawlers thank you Awsome video 👍
Is your seatbelt broken? I lost a friend in an accident in his back yard when his rig flipped and his head went out the window and was crushed.
I’m sorry you lost a friend. My seatbelt is not broken. I wear my seatbelt on obstacles, off camber shelf roads, and always when daily driving. However, when filming, I’m getting in and out of the Jeep a lot. I trust my judgement on when it’s safe to not wear it. For instance, when I’m not wearing it in this video, there was no real risk. Thank you for your concern.
I think your decision is irresponsible. Your safety is irrelevant, and I accept your decision to forgo the seatbelt. My concern is that you are demonstrating an unsafe condition for your own convenience. I believe in promoting safe and responsible four-wheeling. You take the time in editing to show the trails and tracks. There are a lot of people that do not think we should be allowed to use these trails. Some of them have even commented on this video. Showing yourself driving offroad, where conditions can change dramatically without warning, may be seen as careless and is counter-productive.
I have been driving off road for almost 50 years. I am still an active wheeler and volunteer at multiple charity events each year as a trail guide. At these events, I often get in and out of my vehicle a hundred times in a day. I make it a point to buckle up each time I get in, even driving on trails that I have driven countless times and know well. I am not concerned so much for my safety as I am for promoting good behavior. I want the young folks watching us old farts to learn good habits. As a content provider, I would expect you want to lead by example.
Unfortunately, all the good work you do in researching trails, collecting video, editing, and posting content might be dismissed due to irresponsible behavior. I implore you to lead by example and show the haters what most of our community believes in.
@@coloradomallcrawlers
This is a personal decision as an adult and I accept that you consider it reckless. However, you’re also not out there with me either so you really don’t have a valid understanding of what I’m doing (you see 20 mins of 5-6 hours). You also don’t know me. You may not know, but I’m a retired physician (pediatrician) who has taken care of a lot of auto accidents. I have a good understanding of the risks involved with not wearing a seatbelt, more so than most people. I practiced in TN so I also saw a lot of off-road accidents (mostly atv rollovers). There are a lot of risks that I have to personally take to film these videos. It is better for me to focus my attention on riskier activities. Also, my wheel orientation, parking brake, and manual gear selection when parking on a trail is the riskiest thing I do and messing with a seat belt every time I stop to film was problematic for me. This is why I changed to be safer while filming as I use to be like you and always wore a seat belt the whole time while wheeling (as I said, I still wear it on shelf roads, obstacles, unusual conditions, tougher terrain, etc). I only don’t wear it when I’m on the easy parts of a trail (movie magic as I move those clips around to fill out a video). You as a viewer can’t see if I have my lap belt on or not. This is just safest for me and I’m not going to change to a less safe method (learned by experience). Also, I get nonstop messages about guiding people on trails, but I currently don’t do this. I’m an off-road videomaker, not a trail guide. The video becomes a trail guide after filming. Everyone knows that’s my role who is out there with me. In fact, Drew lead this one except when I needed outside shots. Unfortunately, this bothers you because of your personal experience. My decision is made based on my personal experience as a physician, a railroader (no seatbelts on locomotives), and an off-roader for over two decades. I accept a calculated risk, but not wearing a seat belt on the EASY wide open parts of a trail are not as risky as the filming itself is. Also, my railroad job is a lot riskier than anything I do on this channel by the way (we just had a yard death a few months ago in Denver).
Life is full of calculated risks. If I die while wheeling, then I died doing something I love. I hope all can die doing something they love. However, I don’t have a death wish either. So unfortunately, we are going to have to agree to disagree here. I responded honestly here out of respect for you, but unless you’re out there with me, you will not understand the lengths I go to ensure my and more importantly, the safety of those in my videos.
Thank you SO much for this! I have been trying to get a recent report on trail conditions for a trip I have coming up and couldn't find anything, I was super concerned the rivers would be high based on a previous experience I had where I actually got so deep I killed the alternator in my Xterra, and on the first crossing had water that came up to my windshield. At least I got it on video though! czcams.com/video/EO97ocYY__I/video.html
Drew was worried about his on some of these but it wasn’t too bad! Check out that site I put in the video (snoflo) as they give good intel on how the rivers and creeks are running! Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers will do!
Psh...I will show you DEEP!!😂
See description… I’ve been wheeling for twenty years, trust me, I’ve seen deep
Not a fan of you washing the undercarriage of thoes junk ass trucks in the creeks .
Thanks for watching… I’ll bring my liberty next time. It needs a bath!