2017 Zero DSR Review - Test Ride. Completely ELECTRIC Motorcycle!
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- Definitely a crazy motorcycle but not $18k+ cool lol
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The one major thing about an electric bike: near zero maintenance. No tune ups, no oil changes, just brakes. I see electrics as a companion to my big gas bike. Around town, quick runs to friends and store, electric. Long rides, intercity, gas. I will just wait until the prices drop, as all things electric have. 1st flat screen was $21,000 , 1st cell phones ran $3000. I can wait...
But you'll just get run over by some stupid driver who isn't paying attention and usually only notices you by the sound of your bike.
You don't even need maintenance on the brakes. It's electric, so use the regen braking. You will rarely ever use the normal friction brakes, so you don't need much maintenance on them.
So true when these get longer range (approx 150-200 miles per charge) faster and cheaper and priced more in line with competitive gas street bikes I would for sure get one. But being electric I would of hopped if would of been faster than it is, expecially looking at Tesla's compared to gas cars, they are so much faster, and so should this bike and with all the torque I would hope they can get these to compete with at least a 750.
Hello 123456789 I believe he ment that ya still need to repalce the brake pads like any bike, just not as often probably but maybe more since it uses regenerate and that could wear the brakes out faster, just not sure since I don't know much about these and tires and other common stuff that wears out. But I understand what your saying also.
Roof Repair Techs the brakes are not used in regenerative breaking at all my friend. Win-win :)
as long as its fast, i have no complaints about what it runs on.
but do you have complaint about for how long can it run on one charge?
The new 2018 version goes up to 328km(city)/156km(highway)/212km(combined) - that combined figure is about the same as my ICE bike goes on a tank of fuel!
mine has 26l tank. and i don't wanna think about borrowing electric cables or electricity and charging it overnight wherever i go. and those numbers would be more useful if they were "from xxx km" instead of "up to". presumed highway speed of 112km/h is also on the slow side...
this is essentialy a city bike, and i don't think bikes belong in the cities anyway...unless if it's to escape one...
For a commuter bike 212km combined is just fine. How many people travel 100+ km from home to work and back every day? I'd be able to drive to work for a full week if those numbers are correct. And the cost of running it should be very different as well, because you have much less maintenance. Does it have a chain? It doesn't need engine oil, coolant, etc I presume. No exhaust, just proven technology that will last a lifetime.
But then again, I'm an electric car enthusiast too. It's just that they are quite expensive at the moment, but once prices come down, I'll definitely buy one for commuting :)
who pays for the gas/electricity if you commute that way?
and who pays if you use public transport?
if you're "green" you'll use public tr. as that would be greenest, no?
heh....
btw. do you think using a bike on same route every day can be fun?
you know, i like bikes, A LOT, been riding since i was in elementary, and i'm just wondering would i be reading a book in the bus instead of spoiling my day with that usual and boring route on the bike everyday.
and i say this both after doing the same route many times, and going to unknown parts...
heck, i would like to teleport myself somewhere else just to avoid going thru the (old) roads i know just to reach new roads and places...hehe...
>No exhaust, just proven technology that will last a lifetime.
don't get too optimistic, there are videos about problems this bike has.
Electric bike pulled up to a gas station: Gas Attendant: "Fill 'er up, sir!?" Rider: "No, tanks"
Brewed Awakening hahaha
Haha
Where do live where there is a gas station attendant? Mayberry? Or New Jersey, where someone else is required to pump your gas?
Dumb
@Puppyllary Response For snacks.
Gliding silently through the countryside with exactly the power you want for each and every twisty is a very special experience. This bike is just on the path to our future performance bikes, way better than anything we've experienced so far.
The current rate of battery tech improvement and cost reduction predicts EV price and convenience parity with ICEVs by 2025. It will be game over by then.
The Zero already has a 200 mile range.
gasdive ...yes but at perfect temp. staright no major hills, i got only 110 from ottawa to montreal at 50F temp . It is good but stop to charge is a majoe drag those charge station in Canada are not easy to find sadly still a way to go to make it to Quebec city at 400m. With gas well stations are everywhere é It is the only problem they are great to drive
CSIOPS cst39 I get 220 km from my 2014 11.4 DS. The 2017 is about 5% more efficient, the S is about 5% more efficient than the DS and with the power tank has 16.3. Yeah you have to ride carefully to get 200 miles, but it's still doable. My point is that there's no need to wait for a breakthrough. Or just add the Hollywood Electric fairing, for another 10%.
CSIOPS cst39 I just looked at PlugShare. I can't even see the roads for all the charging places along that road. If you think having a charge opportunity every couple of km counts as "hard to find" God knows what you'd think of riding electric here. When I got my first Zero there were three chargers in the whole of Australia. There are three roads out of my town.The closest actual car charge points to me until this year were 250 km south, 350 km north and 1500 km west.
I like this bike, it would make a great daily rider to work and back
yes it would
As a proud owner of the 2018 model yes it is awesome
abbaby555 gears?
Chris Mercado how much does it go for?
Congrats Chris I love mine too
Would love to ride one of these but not for $18k...can't wait for the electric stuff to come down in price. Really like the brand though.
i like that electric humming when you speed up.
it's so... i just love it
I'd say drop the price to $9000 and perhaps more people would buy. A $18,000 price tag is out of the question for me!
Ah shit my head hurts after reading this.
That reminds me of a joke my investment advisor told me: We're losing money, but don't worry, we'll make it up in volume.
TBH.... about half that price is probably for the battery system. Haha.
Alot more experience to make then a typical bike i think
Watch Tesla meet you at that cost lol. Also, with a better bike and battery life. Not to mention peak/top speed.
Funky beat at the beginning of the video, pretty sweet.
Glad you liked it! thank you
My opinion:
If you still want the loud exhaust sound, install the exhaust to a leaf blower and put it to the motorcycle. Perhaps it'll bring back the memory of loud-exhaust engine motorcycle.
I have one its 84 volt 1000 watt bought it two years ago and fell in love. Instant power no noise no fumes love riding around town.It gets so much attention and super fun to drive.I have two power brakes and they are super smooth.I want a second one next year.
Thanks for the informative ride and comments.
Never thought about it but it's a good opportunity to throw on an extra hand brake on the bars :) I know must motorcyclist wouldnt go for it but Im a mountain biker.
then im sure thats right up your alley! haha
and honda should have put the left brake lever on the ctx700d, also. there are just some situations where it would be nice
I wouldn't mind if they added a left hand brake to control the regenerative braking. That way you can coast when you want, and regenerative brake when you want.
renynzea Im not sure about that. I think regen braking works as an on or off type deal. Id imagine itd be hard on the stators to modulate that type of braking with any consistency.
renynzea That being said most ebikes that use regen braking have an on/off type button for that :D
Electric vehicle tech is really exciting to watch, but there are still too many limitations. There needs to be a quantum leap in battery technology where you'll be able to get 200+ miles on a charge on a bike like this and it will only take something like 10 minutes max to fully recharge. I believe that once they get there, EVs will take over a significant portion of the market.
Cro Minion great point! Price on these things is also wayyy too high
I think once the tech makes them more competitive, the prices will come down. It's gonna be a while, but I think they'll get there.
Tesla has got cars with 600+m Miles
@Vince Lac
Price is not to high compared with other electric bikes.
But let 'us': the early adapters pay the price so later it will get cheaper. Someone has too pay for the development costs.
The more 'we' buy them, the cheaper they will get.
《Zero DS 2013 23000km》
Sone brands will relase this year 300kwh chargers, which means that if applied to bikes (battery technology will have to improive in order to hander that much input power) will charge those 200 miles in no time, just a coffee stop. But I agree, for those who like to travel right now is not the best option, for day to day usage I cannot find anything better.
I have An em-1 SE 84 volt looks like that one It has lots of torque and super fun to drive.I use this daily and every other excuse I can to drive it.People are nuts about it.I never thought I would go electric but the balanced ride and fast pickup make this bike a gem and super fun to drive.It goes just as nice on dirt roads too.Mine is plumb purple
and with Bluetooth and a power inverter built in Its a perfect friend when camping or just out for a spin in style with no gas or fumes or heat.Dependable fun quick bike.
I ride so I always shoulder check and am aware of my surroundings when behind the wheel in a car. Now you can't be seen or heard by many. Very cool and good luck.
Needs a longer battery life and I'd be sold. I will stick with my 93 octane explosive dinosaur juice for now :D
Lmao scumbag didn't even like ur comment. Wat a douche
No problem Motoblade. Take a spin on one of these just for fun
Trees, actually. Oil largely derives from long decomposed vegetation
@@HewroPreez
Dinosaur plants
@@ramsongewargis8736 lmao @ you. He was being funny. You're the real douche/scumbag. Get a life bud.
Electric all the way, for me.
After my current Triumph Daytona 675 expires, I'm getting an electric sports bike next. Electric is the coolest tech ever! Whenever I can use my electric unicycle to get somewhere, I'll gladly skip my supersports bike. No warm-up needed. No noise. All the torque you need to accelerate. Basically, switch it on and GO!
Somonene will have to explain why these things are worth the money.
Jacob Nunya Whats to explain? Torque is awesome, no noise and to me that is futuristic as hell. No smell either and no maintinance at all compared to a fossil fueled viecle. Always got full tank every time you leave home, always! No hazzle.
but the range is crap and the initial price is very high. Not only that, but you can't drive often or do long trips because of the recharge times.
Jacob Nunya AND NO FUCKING SOUND AAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!
If they get the price point down, I really might think about getting one! I agree with your description exactly lol.
I love everything about the idea of electric bikes, instant torque, super low maintenance, power exactly when and where and how you want it, but the one thing that got me is the sound. But after hearing this thing... I think I’m gonna leave my H2 in the garage for a little bit 😅 (just wish it was louder)
I could never switch to an electric bike. I like shifting and I like the exhaust note on my R6
K
To each their own I guess, I despise manuals
I noticed you didn't make any mention of the regen braking when you roll off the throttle. I'm guessing the dealer didn't show you how to use the phone app make adjustments in the custom mode.
Also, regarding the battery meter, it's not really linear like a normal fuel gauge and it's not particularly accurate. They're expensive but will only get better and cheaper and that's saying a lot for a bike that's already so good.
After 25 years off riding 750 and 600 i tryed the Zero DSR and i could not stopp smiling , giggeling and getting a real kick out off IT ! Ended up buying the thing. Can't stopp smiling when i twist the "gas".
What a great video, the many facettes you mentioned were especially cool to me, it just seemed like an around great review :)
Im really glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching
This is such a badass bike! It's a shame you didn't have enough room to really put the hammer down.
joel joseph i know! It was killing me haha
RR Rob919 Hello friend what price of this electric vehicle
and... for him to decide where he rides. I, myself, love driving around with my dogs and then later drive down city streets to the dirt roads nearby going across fields a street bike should never try... Bye! (I love my new bike!)
What's to hate about electric cars? The Leaf is a stupid car that just happens to be electric. Have you driven a Tesla? You should probably do that if you haven't.
Just not a fan. personal preference
Nope, who has 130k. Do you?
enzorover b why is the LEAF a stupid car? Sure it may not tick the boxes for everyone but for those it does it is far from a stupid car...
I certainly meant no offense. I guess I was speaking to it's value proposition. The fact that for the same $35,000 you can buy 2 Nissan Versa's and have almost $10,000 for gas money. I can live with an econo-box design. I can live with 80mi range. I can live with meager performance. I can even live with $35,000. I just have a hard time living with all of those. Having said that, at around $6000 an off-lease Leaf is very, very tempting
There's got to be something about electric cars that you do not like about.
Bman those electric motor sound is so satisfying to listen.
Awesome review my friend 👍
For $18,000 you should be getting a Zero VTOL aircraft for chrissakes.
I’ll take one f35a stol please
0:57 okay I am guessing it's on.😂😂😂
Couldn't take my eyes off the triple clamp slightly turned to the right, so was pleased that you noticed it too. Such imperfections are chronically annoying.
It was so annoying ill tell you haha
I thought it was Mt. Hollly, N J. I have not lived in Jersey for a long time but I always remember motorcycle shops.Thanks for the video.
It is! Thats where the dealership is, the town is just not considered mt holly for some reason. Thanks for watching!
I love my 2012 ZF9, kinda outdated at this point but its fun as hell to ride.
Im sure its a blast! a 2012 bike isnt outdated at all
It is in a market that progresses as fast as that.
Daymeon Wails that one isn't outdated, my 2002 750 Katana is outdated xD
Lync hehe my 2000 yamaha vstar 1100 is outdated but i love it all tje same
Wow, comparing gas engines with electric, how smart :D
The Zero FX or FXS supermoto are the bikes to get. They cost about $10,500. Think of it this way. The nearest competitor is the Yamaha WR-450F at $9K. That's a great bike! If you get the WR, then you might spend $500 on an exhaust, and $300 on a tuner. That's $9700 right there. You're guaranteed to spend $100 on valve shims or else your bike will get harder to start over time. At the end of the year, Zero knocks $1K off the price. A Zero has about 8" of suspension travel instead of a whole foot like on the Yamaha. You're guaranteed to get the cops called with a loud bike. On an electric, "Oh, it's just a scooter. See, it's electric." So, in the big picture, electric supermotos are really kick-ass bikes. "Alta motors" makes a bike called the "Redshift" in an MX, EX, and Supermoto for $15K. That bike has chain drive, 12" of travel, and weighs about as much as a WR250, but with 2009 WR450 power. Really, electric bikes seem expensive, but you can get away with a lot more shit. If you fuck up a battery, it doesn't need machine work to fix it. Just order another one. No break-in period. Just hook it up and go. 8 more years of life.
Yeah good on you man, you articulate in a entertaining way.
Smooth delivery of the stats lol
I need this.....
$18,000 cheaper than I was expecting,
I've been looking into an electric bike and I really like the silence. Being loud isn't what I like.
Probably the leaning to the right is because of how the road is somewhat slanted to the side.
Pretty cool! I hope they sell lots of them and that they get better and better and the prices go down.
to be honest, for 18k it should look alot better... but still eletric is the future! :P
I love the look.
Bury the gas pedal in a high end Tesla and your opinion will change about electric cars. Fastest 0-60 production car on the planet... And it happens to be a luxury 7 seater sedan with a frunk 😉
False. The demon is the fastest PRODUCTION 0-60 car. but i agree the appreciation for electric vehicles really cant be realized until you experience it
RR Rob919 Actually some people have hit 2.2 0-60 in the model S P100D. That's faster than the demon. Plus the demon isnt even street legal.
Thats with modifications to the tesla. From the factory, the Demon is the fastest 0-60 production car.
RR Rob919 I believe that there were no mods but I may be wrong. I have no interest in arguing tho. Great video. I enjoyed it.
haha yeah not trying to argue just tellin ya what i know. Either way those teslas are fast as all hell and I really do think people dont appreciate electric power until they experience it first hand. Thanks for watching the video and for the support!
i like the ktm idea of bycycle style brakes with the rear brake on the left side
This is the first electric motorcycle that i ever watched, back in years ago. Hope the guy behind the channel doing just fine
Where do I find the intro music ?
Its in the description
Im still waiting for unlimited solar energy vehicle's
I had one ..a 2012 ..absolute blast to ride..
It's actually nice idea that people can be more creative about weight distribution and many other things those always been generic since motobike firstly created.
Not a fan of electric bikes, but if they introduce electric growl to it I may like it.
There used to be a audio system to simulate that. I haven't seen it in the market for a long time though. Maybe you can google it.
This frikin comment. I swear sound is so important to people across the world.
if you could accelerate to 100mph in couple of seconds it wouldn't matter if it makes noise pollution
Stfu
dubstep engines lol
100 mph top? Hmm they should at least put a second gear 😂
All electric bike sounds awesome!
Gawd wish I could afford one. This is the future
its a 2017... no brake line visible by the instrument cluster
Fixed! Haha i initially thought it was a 2017 as well but somebody left a comment saying it was a 2016 so i wasnt sure. Not familiar enough with the bike
RR Rob919 np... I have a 2016 is why I know😁
Price makes these electrical gadgets irrelevant for the average joe.
Over time you are only paying a few extra thousand in costs. Compare the gas price to the electricity price and the maintenance prices between the two. No oil, no clutch, no engine, etc.
My home location from where the 'good roads' are would have me in constant 'range-anxiety' at present. The day 200 miles between a 30-minute recharging is realized I will eagerly give up 40 years of ICE maintenance.
I like also the silence! Think about it. If you not in the city and you drive through nature, you can enjoy the feeling countryside much better
Duracell, lasts 10x longer
Shits dangerous tho because nobody will hear you coming
Awesome
They will only get better, I'm sure a CVT or 2 speed could be possible. I wonder if gearsacks and panniers will be available?
It's only early days for electric vehicles.
PRO Video !!! Love that. Nice POV Vid again ! ;)
Once the range quadruples and can charge in an hour or two, maybe
they already charge fully in 1 hour. Check out the website
Well the newest bikes get like 230 miles of range and charge in like an hour or so on level two chargers apparently.
@@JakeAoTK which bike?
What's up with the annoying ass whining noise coming from behind the bars?
roguesquatcher the guy talking? Lol
I hope to have motorcycle like that, it's amazing
Brings back the ancient meaning of 'motor'cycle
I am thinking in traffic it could be more dangerous because other drivers don't hear you coming.
adrianTNT I had one, it's not anymore or less dangerous. Drive defensively, always.
If you are relying on others to hear you so they don’t run you over then it means you are driving with your head up your ass......take your head out your ass....
Why'd you get rid of it?
shadowbird42333 It was an earlier model, 2010 Zero S, it had some issue with the battery, it was fixed and then had the same issue, After the warranty ran out, my patience and money did too.
adrianTNT yup loud pipes save lives slogan is hard to refute, alert defensive riding makes that moot.
just think incredibly fast electric SCOOTER
KC Nham I think this motor in a lambretta would work well lots more room for battery's etc
Your battery is going to drain pretty fast hitting the throttle that way. Its a great cruiser and if you keep it in Ecco mode the battery life is over 120km for sure.
I went electric (car) over a year ago and never want to go back. I love the fact i can fill up at home for dollar!
I really want an electric bike but waiting for prices to drop. My car saves me $150-200 a month in gas but the bike would be a toy
they should have given a fake clutch though, just for the sake of not getting freaked out.
Aditya Kumar That would be so stupid.
Aditya Kumar no one hears you coming anyway. Even on a Harley with straight pipes they still will hang a left right in front of you.
Muted
Jimil Maanaaden Me, too. This guy never shuts up.
Oh that nice of them to put a hole midway so bubba and his brother can slide a pole thru it and easily load it into the pickup.
Electricity bike owner here. The good things about these bikes are fast acceleration, 0 emissions, easy to ride, and super quiet.
The downsides:
1. Battery degradation that will happen overtime and you will have to get it replaced once every two years.
2. The battery performance drops significantly in winter. You get 50% less distant than riding in the other seasons.
3. recharging the battery can take from 20-60 minutes depending on what kind of the battery you are using so it's not suitable for a long distant ride.
4. (This is just my experience) Riding in a crowded suburban areas can sometimes be a little bit dangerous as it runs so quietly and people walking in front of you WILL NOT hear that you are coming.
Too much chitchat!
Well the bike doesn't have an exhaust note or anything, so I guess the chit chat is better than awkward silence!
so no exhaust note for anyone to hear you besides a MOSQUITO just passed them.... no thanks ill cont inue polluting the earth lmao
Exactly haha pretty un safe if you ask me
This is just an anecdote so feel free to ignore it. Somebody stole both my slip-ons off of my sv1000 but I said screw it I cant afford new ones. I also just assumed it would be safer because more people can hear me. What I learned is that there is no way to verify this is safer and to me it sounds like bull shit because the amount of noise my bike makes does not alter my safe riding style and you must keep in mind that when the windows are rolled up in a car the noise gets distorted as you roll by. So saying noise makes you more identifiable I would argue noise makes you more difficult to pinpoint especially in cities where noise bounces of buildings before reaching the ear. Also, to the gentleman who would rather polute the world, keep in mind that technologically speaking ICE's are pretty terrible and regardless of how you feel about them they are coming and will be everywhere (especially in motorsports). The only time you will see ICE's in the future is when people are feeling nostalgic and they offer a historical class in racing competitions. Finally, I find ICE's to be a bit too much sometimes and I would love to have a vehicle that I don't have to worry about maintenance or feel bad about pushing it non stop because electric motors are more efficient by a huge margin, more durable, and the fact that they have more power potential for scaling upwards is just another plus. Let me know what you think.
Maybe they can put a loud speaker at the rear that plays a taped recording of a loud exhaust for those that still believe people in cars actually pay any attention at all to the sound of an exhaust. If you need someone to notice you then use your fucking horn.
Doesn't it have a horn?
If you are relying on a cager hearing you and then not doing something stupid, you are already behind the game. i would almost rather they don't try to guess what to do until I am past them. Chances are just as good that they hear a bike, and then think they need to do something and move over right where you were going. I'd rather they just mindlessly drone on the way they were going, and not try to do anything, because chances are that they will fuck up and do it wrong.
I can agree its cool but not $18k cool, but like you stated, in the 0-60 its got a hell of a chance. you should check out 650iBs video on that subject, it destroys the H2 on launch. but Rob once again i leave your video at the end, with a great big grin because i enjoyed it that much
Glad to hear! thank you
One day I will definitely come there and ride that bike.
This is cool for beginners who have no experience about motor bikes
sweet loving this bike!
I would like some DSP sound effects of exhaust to be added as an option to switch-on-off, just for safety.You cannot hear a bike like that coming...
The thing that seems weird with automatics (I've never ridden a fully automatic) is that it feels like you'd have to shift your grip when doing mixed riding which feels like it'd ruin the flow. With a manual you just "reset" the gas with every shift while on an automatic you'd just gradually pull your wrist down as speed goes up.
Hey! That's my Buddy Ken! - Come down and take a Test ride on 9-16-17 from 11am to 3pm - It sounds like you were having fun on the DSR, Well Driving an Electric Car is the same kind of Rush vs a Gas car. You really should test ride a Tesla next and romp on the accelerator pedal. I bet you your mind will change about Electric Cars!
Gotta test ride one of these.
this bike's sport mode is so amazing it turns you into a goat
A clutch that just disengaged and let the the motor spin would be cool.
Maybe ever a higher gear?
I wonder what it costs to replace or upgrade the battery? How many years does the battery last? Are they just plug and play or do you need to buy a charger? For what they cost you should just be able to plug them into your home wall socket.
I rode one of these and for the weight to power ratio holy shit! With wings she'll fly, yet no one will hear you!! Id give both nuts for one of these:)
I love it sincerely!
The future is just ELECTRIC!! 🙌
Need 250 MPH sports electric bike that looks like tron bikes. That's the future.
and BTW, I could see the steering bars were kinda twisted to the right like you said
Great idea however for me the noise of combustion makes feels safer when riding. Drivers can hear the bike.
There's one of these at one of my stops on my route. I'll have to find out who the owner is and ask him a million questions!! LOL!! Pretty cool but kind of pricy, imagine what it costs to replace the battery!! I fly RC planes and helicopters that are all electric. When I started in the hobby 15 years ago the battery costs were crazy, now their not too bad, battery prices have really dropped.
Battery lasts 300000 miles plus
Andrews 21 torque cams and a clutch on my tuned Harley and I HAVE that instant torque, just a hair later than the battery powered bike of course.
Bad thing about the cams though is the power and kicks in at 1400, so it's virtually impossible for me to keep my fist out of it, especially with modded suspension and tires (double darksider). Soooo, I get only about 36 mpg, unlesss I clench my teeth and slow down to pack speeds, and I'll get 42.
Still, I'd have an electric for a runabout....uhhh....when I get rich....!!!
Odd question but what is the music during the intro? It's cool.
The biggest thing I've noticed electric riders raving about... is how after the wow factor wears off, they enjoy the ride so much differently without being preoccupied with gear changes, rev matching, clutching, etc.
Thank you.
Finally a Motorbike that our neighbours would Approved! 🌷🌿🌍❤
Drinking game. Take a shot every time he says "nuts" 😂
Awesome! So did you buy it in the end?
Jax Targaryen i did not. A spin with fin bought it
what's up Rob! I've been looking literally every day seeing if you are at 10000 subs I really want to see the music video lol if you don't hit it but you are really close will you still do it