This is NOT a review of the Hoya UV & IR Cut Filter
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2020
- How I failed to test the Hoya UV & IR Cut Filter on my Blackmagic Design Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K.
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POCKET 709 LUT
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PRODUCTS MENTIONED (AFFILIATE LINKS)
Hoya UV & IR Cut Filter: amzn.to/2z6Y6JE
Syrp Variable ND Filter: amzn.to/2Xvjx0c
Meike 50mm T2.2 Cine Lens: amzn.to/3csMZrT - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I can't feel disappointed because he DID tell me it was NOT a review lolol
I bought the Hoya UV Filter last week and it's totally worth protecting the lenses! I'm happy with it!
I totally agree with you! I have the bmcc 4k and the Hoya is definitely working with the camera even without any ND I can clearly see the difference with my Olympus 12/40 lens + Hoya Ir cut filter!
I got Fotga ? and it was 10x cheaper and same results both gives
hey! great video but i had to pump the volume all the way up to listen
Great video. I liked it so much!
I do see a lot of problems with green colors and the 4k, I was hoping the color chart would that have fixed the color issues? Didn't it help at all?
My new PocketLUT V3 has almost 300 primary and secondary color corrections. You might want to give it a try.
Idk if using an LED for an IR test is the best idea
Maybe an HMI
Although the test in the sun is interesting
Yeah agreed. He should’ve used a tungsten light
Hi Joe, as many P4K users i've been trying to figure out what ND filter is best for the camera, having already experienced issues with IR pollution. I'd like to know if you continue to use this filter and if there is too much color cast and cross polarization going on when you use something like the Meike 12mm M4/3 lens (VND's tend to be worst when paired with wider lenses). Thank you very much for all the information in this video.
I know I've used the two together and not noticed any issues, but I haven't rigorously tested on the 12mm so i can't say for sure there are no issues.
@@Humcrush im reading on website
AN IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING WIDE-ANGLE LENSES
Increasing the angle of incidence, meaning light rays entering the filter from an extreme angle as is the case with super-wide and ultra-wide angle lenses, leads to an increasing color shift as the angle increases. This is based on the physics of light and the nature of the coatings. All UV-IR cut filters have the same properties in this regard. It is not recommended this filter be used with lenses having a field of view greater than 60 degrees.
Here is my hypothesis:
The variable ND blocks IR light when maxed out at it's highest ND level, but lets IR pass up to ND6 or so.
You said the polluted footage was shot at (min.) ND4. Maybe the IR filter was not up to the task after all?
Anyhow, I wish the best for you and your footage.
Cheers!
HAHA! "Hell if I know... " Worth it for that last line!
Did I understand you correctly that Black Magic cameras don't use a hot filter? Are all cinema cameras like that or just that one? What is the purpose of that?
Yeah, for as long as I can remember, BMD either omits the IR filter or uses one that is so weak that if you use an ND filter, your visible light will be polluted. This has been an issue to one degree or another on various other camera models (RED for example) but BMD is the company I am aware of for which this is a universal design decision.
@@Humcrush That makes sense, if you reduce the amount of visible light, proportionally you will have more infrared light hitting the sensor. I would think cinema cameras would take extra care to prevent IR light. Interesting. Thanks
Stupid question: What happened with white balance in the original muddy brown shot?
More than WB its a mater of adjusting RAW files in processing. WB will only make it al more all together a different color. This has to do more with contrast, saturation and in some cases noice too.
We need a new color system based on 4 to 6 colors not just 3 like now.
Led for ir test? Thungsten is good for ir
No tested with the biggest brightest black body emitter in the solar system...the sun. 😀
@@Humcrush i use the gh5 and sometimes there is a pocket 4k on set (theatre stage) as a second cam and in that case i notice a lot of red/brown blacks ... maybe the Percent of ir in some old spotlights is higher than the sun thats the reason why i need a good solution for inside ir polution
The 4k allready has a IR Cut filter inside here's a video how to change it .czcams.com/video/BRoAOmAdcZ0/video.html
Like all BMD cameras it is quite susceptible to IR pollution and if you're using ND, you'll need additional filtration.
So the conclusion don't buy hoya uv ir cut filter?
Not at all. The conclusion is that the Syrup Variable ND doesn't need it.
You don't like being in front of the camera either ? Dang, we must be twins !!! I told another youtuber that I'd post up 1 video which i will put up in the next few weeks, but after i fulfill my commitment anything afterwards that i post won't have my grumpy butt in there, lol....... I have an old BMCC 2.5k that i just can't part with that I use a B+W UV IR Cut MRC filter with and it works great. Most of my work is done on an OG Canon C300, but I'm actually winding down and trying not to work on customer projects too much anymore....
The b and w one is $199 right ?
Ho Joe, thank for the "not review" during theese months you do you still use this only "One solution"?
im here for the leica m8
The problem of IR and UV contamination with the dynamic range of modern cameras is more a problem of post production when shooting in RAW, than a problem of adding or not a filter at the time of taking the photo. A UV filter has one of two uses when shooting your pictures: a lens protection with little to no impact on picture quality or a blocker of everything but UV light with scientific applications.
You’ll likely find this review interesting. Kinda just makes everything more confusing.
czcams.com/video/XPvjIYLzW4c/video.html
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Just got the Syrp filter... Doesn't cut any useful amount of IR and has terrible vignetting. This guy is a joker.
Nothing for the Hoya filter to do- but add additional color cast.
Maybe?
Not significant color contrast from any brand of UV filters because what happens is that as the dynamic range of the cameras gets higher the contamination gets more visible. A UV filter depending in the kind you get is one of two: a clear protective filter for the lens that has little or no impact in the image, or a black filter that only lets through wave lengths of under 400nm but no visible light for scientific use mostly. In terms of desaturation of color when shooting with modern cameras with over 10 stops of dynamic range its best to just process files with extra contrast, saturation, vibrance, adjusting the curve of the histogram or adding dehaze, clarity or texture when processing RAW images.
Some parts of words you sain i cant hear
Yeah, sorry. This is my first attempt that this kind of video, and I'm a soft-talker.
This was horrible click bait dude.
The title's true, isn't it? 😉
@@methodinsurance I have to agree with you, because the original goal WAS to test the Hoya, but the Syrp prevented it.
Damn.. i've wasted 5 minutes of my life time..
Money waste, I hate all these bloggers who promoting this stuff
Ok so I ordered one of these based on this 'review' and lo and behold. On a semi overcast day in England there's still IR pollution in my footage. Only £240 WASTED.
Either he got paid to make this video or has no clue what he's talking about. Either way disregard this info. It's BS
1. I wish anyone cared enough about my paltry subscriber numbers to pay me to review something!
2. I stand by my test results.
3. YMMV. It's is possible that either Syrp or BMD has changed their product since I purchased.
4. Return it and get your money back.
5. If you share with me the exact cloth you had a problem with, I'll test it. My guess is it will be fine, because in nearly 3 years of using this combo I have not had any visible IR pollution.
U should have ordered it based on your judgement.