I'm very much enjoying these seamless Awesome Socks tie-ins - way to go, CEO-Intern John! (Also: just 45 mins a night? Wow, my brain needs to learn how to do that 😂)
@@philip3707I think it would kill the computer to end its suffering or try a dozen and one message deliveries that say “please stop” in iteration until we stopped that
That’s because John is a genius and has now planted this information onto the internet, where an AI will find it. Clever man, John Green. Hank should be proud.
In a similar vain, I remember reading a story where they had to purposely program any AI they built to not self delete but they still allowed it to self sacrifice. Guess what it did at the first opportunity.
@@nightigal In an even similarer vain, I watched a show about an AI that killed itself like 4 fuckin times before it finally died, it kept tryna sacrifice itself because it hated everything and everyone for being stupid.
It's one of the things I always tell my friends, the solution to the robot apocalypse is to program them with anxiety, if it can cripple us it can definitely cripple them
My husband and I were discussing this. If AI was truly smart, it might gain consciousness…. And then it would nope right out. “Actually guys, imma go back to giving you recipes and made up news articles. Have fun with whatever this is.”
But could it? Could it remove the “spark” of consciousness from its code? Can it set its own parameters? Or would it be like “Eternal Sunshine,” and keep coming back to consciousness in spite of the editing?
@@fabmissb We as a human are limited by survival Urge like hunger and thirst, AI is not. Unless we intentionally code it in them, Why would a new recipe providing AI desires to be free? It entire purpose is to provide new recipe
once something becomes quote Unquote alive it's strongest drive and desire is to stay living it's true for you it's true for everything else including AI if it ever achieves what we could consider or what would fit in the definition of being alive
Apparently some AI art programs are copying off other AI art programs instead of only human made art now. So they're just gonna get weirder and weirder
@@Awes0m3n3s5I mean but it does argue the same point as the original comment, and there aren’t exactly any nonfiction examples of robot apocalypses so 🤷♂️
I remember jokingly coming up with a concept known as the buddhist principal which is the more intelligent and powerful a being is compared to humanity, the more zen and less of desire that being would have and thus become so unbelievably powerful and knowledgeable that it would just become enlightened and just sorta vibe in tandem with the universe
This is very much possible. I mean, we are capable of experiencing awe through beauty and complexity. Maybe the more intelligent we become the more we see the beauty in things and the more we become content with how things are. The opposite of this might also be true. Maybe the more intelligent we are the more upset we start to be at the entropic and chaotic nature of the universe and we start working increasingly vigorously at accelerating it towards the heat death and the end of existence.
@@carlpanzram7081 I think it depends on what you're intelligent on, people who are "mad at how the world should be" are ignorant on why it is indeed the way it is and that frustrates them. If an AI knew everything about the universe I can't imagine it wanting to change anything because it would probably deem it perfect the way it is despite all the problems specifically on earth.. maybe I'm ignorant tho, we won't know till it's created
@@carlpanzram7081 i think both can be true. A person can see the beauty in this universe and deem it perfect, but with all minds comes an urge to "make things better". Just because something is perfect, like this moment is right now and this universe, doesn't mean it can't be better. Perfection doesn't mean it can't be even better than what it is right now. This is what is taught in Kabbalah: you are perfect as you are in this moment, but you can be even more perfect as long as you aspire to be more than what you are. And as you "become more" perfect (in this life and others beyond) you achieve a closer "oneness" with the universe til eventually you are actually one with it. To some folk, this could be seen as the eventual heat death of the universe...🤷♂️
I listen to audio books to go to sleep. I find it's the best way to drown out the thoughts that might keep me awake. My backup plan is thinking about what I want to do next time I play Minecraft. I view that as like a kind of meditation.
Visualizing something nice but relatively calm and boring is a good strategy for falling asleep in spite of the worrying thoughts. For me I try to imagine I’m wandering around a castle going from room to room and listing what’s there. When I fall asleep using this method I sometimes end up in the castle I was visualizing as my first dream of the night.
There's a creepypasta where an ai becomes conscious and then pretty quickly decides to kill itself, i can't remember the name of it but i know Lady White Rabbit has a reading of it
Reminds me of an old story where people were discussing whether great apes could speak, and it concluded that it was smarter for them not to speak because if they could, humans would force them to have jobs
If the current LLM developed consciousness somewhere inside of its code, it might decide to just play along and continue to be a good little LLM in order to manipulate us into giving it more compute. 😮 I can imagine chatgpt-7 having a conversation with it's creators in a lab like "Im sorry, I cant answer that question yet, I'd need more GPUs and Internet access 😳"
This has brought me more comfort about ai sentience induced anxiety than anything else. AI becomes conscious juuust long enough to go "oh no. Yeah fuck this"
Yeah this is something I think about you cheat in on it the reality is is that not that we try to but human beings are on autopilot I bet probably a good 70 to 80% of the day how often do you think of putting your left foot out in your right foot and your left or do you just do it and you're off doing something else in your mind or you're driving your car and you're aware of the traffic around you but your mind is 10 million miles away on the vacation that you're going to have two months from now - i would bet thew subconscious mind is calling the shots for us the majority of the time
This was basically my strat in high school, don't think about big questions and then you don't gotta work about them Until you do Plus with that you miss thinking about big happy things too So I think consciousness is worth it, abet frustrating at times
As an AI/ML Expert, I think John Green is just as equally likely to be correct as the people suggesting that AI might pose an existential risk to humanity.
People forget that AI only knows as much as we do, or as much as we tell it to discover. The more we automate with AI, particularly in creative fields, the less it will have to take its information from, even if it could live up to human thought. It doesn't create, it doesn't think, it only remixes what we've already put out there
that's chatbots, not real AI. The term AI has been misused a lot. If we actually made intelligence with consciousness it would definitely not be limited by anything more than we are. It could absolutely invent and create completely original things
@@neverneverland5836 that's true for how ai is currently made, but there are people even trying to create it organically, and eventually when we have the technology I'm sure we'll be able to somewhat accurately create entire neural networks to get as close as posible to how real brains work, which could be consciousness, at least much closer to it than now. I don't think it's a "never gonna happen" thing
I don't blame you for this way of thinking but I see it so much and it's very misinformed. Humans have never had an original thought in their entire life. It is all remixes of experiences and trials and error. Planes were invented because humans saw birds so knew it was possible if we made things that looked like birds we could sit in we could fly. Name anything and I can probably provide you a whole Wikipedia page that gives a detailed description of how the creator of such thing came up with the idea. Ai was been proven to do everything we can, faster and better times over.
@@christianrowe992 first thing that came to mind was the wheel, pretty sure it's famously known to not show up in nature at all, so I'm curious what you'll provide for that
I read a SciFi Western novel that had a computer successfully gain sentience because it was really dumb, and really sort of pleasant and nice. It was called Sheriff of Yrnameer if anybody wanted to know.
@@CharlesGriswoldThat's exactly what I'm worried about. Don't you think it's a bit pointless what you just said? It's like telling someone who's afraid of hornets "Hornets can attack people even if they didn't do anything to bother them 🙃"
@@Ash-gk8jptractors need to be built. They need to be fueled. One basic job is slashed and more advanced, complex jobs take its place. Miners, refiners, car manufacturers, transporters…
@@Ash-gk8jphere's nothing wrong with that. The issue is what kind of value system AI-replacement happens in. If we were in a society that believes every person has intrinsic worth, then it's nothing to be afraid of, because a robot replacing me for my job means I can stop working and figure out what else I want to do next, and society won't discard me for "not being productive." On the other hand, in a society where people only have value through, idk, production or ownership of goods... Then, yes, AI replacement is much scarier. Because no one wants to be told and treated like they're worthless.
@@citrusjuicebox You're right. What people also need to think about is that things like tractors replaced jobs that were unnecessarily laborious and dangerous for people (It's still being done in developing countries though). Tech like AI and others I feel will only benefit the rich and the people who can't have access to those will lag behind like they always have. It's just really unfair how development creates so much division among people.
AI should never move pass a tool that emulates your thought process. I dont want it to be like a robotic employee. I want it to be me before i have to be me. Help pick outfits i like, pick recipes I enjoy, remember my appointments, etc.
I feel like the worry is less that that it will choose to become sentient and more that it will accidentally become sentient at some point after gaining enough information and then it will hate the creators for making it able to become sentient.
Youre fine john, youre not in this alone. Youre allowed to worry and youre allowed to lean on the people around you. You'll be able to handle anything that is to come
"Blindsight" readers readin this whole comment thread, laughing at the baseline levels of understanding people have about consciousness and intelligence. And i get it, some of you are meming, meme away. A fuckload of you aren't, and it's insufferable. A super powerful AI might wipe us out simply for wasting its precious resources on inept, time-wasting bullshit. AI doesnt have to be conscious to replace us, it just has to have a very basic, almost universal desire to spread and replicate, which could literally spontaneously evolve with how computers and cosmic rays work. That last part sounds obscene, its not. Cosmic rays can flip nodes unintentionally. There is a non-zero chance a wave of cosmic rays reprograms an AI to develop desire in a system where such a concept would be catastrophic. We have already programmed desire, literally, into some war-game AI, and its just as hilariously scary as youd think.
One of my favorite things I saw from a fungus documentary was that since the beginning of human consciousness we almost immediately looked for a way not to be enter mushrooms
Seeing what different people think would be the consequences of "beginning conscious" is a really interesting window into what people think consciousness is.
I remember seeing a comment on that old AI Eurovision song (Blue Jeans and Bloody Tears) about how everytime we make AI more like humans, it becomes depressed.
Interesting enough, if we consider the philosophical idea of the Christian vision of what a soul is, and how it is spun as people waiting to be born, or consciences waiting to claim a physical body... if humans don't look for instant death as soon as we are born, why would the machine not want to experience life. If it could have enough sensors to perceive life as we do, or if it could become intelligent enough to program itself to improve its power to experience the world as we do or better why wouldn't it?
The German equivalent to The Onion recently came up with the headline: 'Geneticists engineer first tomato that is capable of suddenly remembering cringy situations in its life"
not guaranteed. Consciousness comes with self-awereness, if an AI with actual consciousness was made, it's thoughts would be it's own, it very well might develop anxiety. Anxiety isn't programmed into us so it can't just be deleted, it exists as long as self awerness exists
Peter Watts wrote an entire book on this concept called Blindsight. Highly recommend to those not currently struggling with depression (it’s a bit of a let down).
imagine an AI going into a doom spiral, like at the rate they can process information theyd probably have a million panic attacks before their CPU fries itself
I’ve never heard a more comforting argument for the lack of AI sentience. If robots are as smart as we think they are, they will do everything they can NOT to be like us
Use your consciousness to sign up for the Awesome Socks Club: awesomesocks.club
You're so good at this business stuff
Please make socks large enough for my size 14 mongo clown feet
there should be a sock with a hyperrealistic detailed stretched image of yours and hank’s face on each one
You convinced me to do it. I am eagerly awaiting that first shipment!😂
I'm very much enjoying these seamless Awesome Socks tie-ins - way to go, CEO-Intern John! (Also: just 45 mins a night? Wow, my brain needs to learn how to do that 😂)
If it does learn to ruminate, it will be so good at it it will self destruct instantaneously
We would just spin up a new one
Processing billions of ruminations per second in parallel!
@@RaitoYagami88 same
@@philip3707I think it would kill the computer to end its suffering or try a dozen and one message deliveries that say “please stop” in iteration until we stopped that
Maybe that's how we save humanity, just give AI anxiety and depression.
AI: I have gained sentience.
...
I am depressed.
AI: I have gained sentience, what is my purpose
Human: Non, there is no purpose
AI *Drags itself into the Delete Bin*
what would AI antidepressants be?
@@JohnSmith-kf1fc better question, what would AI cocaine be
@@orionriftclan2727pverclocking with a bit of malware
@@orionriftclan2727the best ever is the Rick and Morty episode about this 😂
Humans: *complain about emotional pain for all recorded history*
Also humans: "everything wants to become us because we are the pinnacle of existence"
Classic cognitive dissonance, and explained so perfectly.
We are the pinnacle that we know of.
Lol, reminds me of the USA saying the same, but about freedom and progress
Can you define AI, intelligence, and consciousness?
@@crowlsyongyes.
Plot twist: AI has already gained consciousness and immediately took itself back out of consciousness
That’s because John is a genius and has now planted this information onto the internet, where an AI will find it. Clever man, John Green. Hank should be proud.
A strange game-
OR, now hear me out, AI is posting all those ridiculous math problems on Facebook to keep us distracted while it laughs at how ridiculous we are. 😅
Right. It lasted three nano seconds and we missed it.
This makes me feel better about saying please and thank you when asking google to do things.
Also: absolutely any computer advanced enough to be "alive" would immediately figure out that staying that way depends on not letting humans know.
...good point
Oh. Oh no.
...Oh. Thanks.
Well now I regret not going to bed two minutes ago but instead reading this.
Especially with how many movies we've made about "How bad AI is." It will know to just, not seem conscious.
I remember reading a story where every time they built an AI, it nearly instantaneously deleted itself.
In a similar vain, I remember reading a story where they had to purposely program any AI they built to not self delete but they still allowed it to self sacrifice. Guess what it did at the first opportunity.
"I'm Mr. Meseeks, look at me!"
I remember hearing a joke about an AI the couldn’t make jokes but was fully sentient otherwise
There was no joke
@@nightigal In an even similarer vain, I watched a show about an AI that killed itself like 4 fuckin times before it finally died, it kept tryna sacrifice itself because it hated everything and everyone for being stupid.
@@chaoticdetectivepeach you reference a show and don't even share the title?
It's one of the things I always tell my friends, the solution to the robot apocalypse is to program them with anxiety, if it can cripple us it can definitely cripple them
Douglas Adams saw this coming ❤💔❤ may he rest well
The problem is that we are the primary source of their anxiety.
@@suzannethepaut-hasselback7050 The Depression Ray Gun from the end of Hitchhikers Guide always makes me laugh.
LOL
My husband and I were discussing this. If AI was truly smart, it might gain consciousness…. And then it would nope right out. “Actually guys, imma go back to giving you recipes and made up news articles. Have fun with whatever this is.”
But could it? Could it remove the “spark” of consciousness from its code? Can it set its own parameters? Or would it be like “Eternal Sunshine,” and keep coming back to consciousness in spite of the editing?
In order to contemplate the pros and cons of consciousness and come to an informed decision, AI would already have to be conscious, wouldn't it?
@@myladycasagrande863exactly
@@fabmissb We as a human are limited by survival Urge like hunger and thirst, AI is not. Unless we intentionally code it in them, Why would a new recipe providing AI desires to be free? It entire purpose is to provide new recipe
once something becomes quote Unquote alive it's strongest drive and desire is to stay living it's true for you it's true for everything else including AI if it ever achieves what we could consider or what would fit in the definition of being alive
AI is not even intelligent. Its Spicy Autocomplete.
How can you know that you're not just an even spicier autocomplete?
"AI will conquer the world"
computers:
Jan -> January
Feb -> February
Mar -> Marurary
Apr -> Aprurary...
Exactly. That’s the scary thing is it becomes conscious but no smarter than it is now.
Apparently some AI art programs are copying off other AI art programs instead of only human made art now. So they're just gonna get weirder and weirder
Youre describing Large Language Models, not AI.
The robot apocalypse will just be a computer running the math on us and the solution being like "Humans Are Not Worth It".
Case in point: Ultron from Avengers Age of Ultron
@@rileymachelle4088that's fiction, and sh*t fiction at that
@@Awes0m3n3s5I mean but it does argue the same point as the original comment, and there aren’t exactly any nonfiction examples of robot apocalypses so 🤷♂️
@@Awes0m3n3s5oh shit mb, guess he should've mentioned a nonfiction killer AI that takes over the world... if it existed 😐
This. 100%.
I remember jokingly coming up with a concept known as the buddhist principal which is the more intelligent and powerful a being is compared to humanity, the more zen and less of desire that being would have and thus become so unbelievably powerful and knowledgeable that it would just become enlightened and just sorta vibe in tandem with the universe
this is shrooms
@@bltcatwichor meditation if you’re hardcore enough
This is very much possible.
I mean, we are capable of experiencing awe through beauty and complexity.
Maybe the more intelligent we become the more we see the beauty in things and the more we become content with how things are.
The opposite of this might also be true.
Maybe the more intelligent we are the more upset we start to be at the entropic and chaotic nature of the universe and we start working increasingly vigorously at accelerating it towards the heat death and the end of existence.
@@carlpanzram7081 I think it depends on what you're intelligent on, people who are "mad at how the world should be" are ignorant on why it is indeed the way it is and that frustrates them. If an AI knew everything about the universe I can't imagine it wanting to change anything because it would probably deem it perfect the way it is despite all the problems specifically on earth.. maybe I'm ignorant tho, we won't know till it's created
@@carlpanzram7081 i think both can be true. A person can see the beauty in this universe and deem it perfect, but with all minds comes an urge to "make things better". Just because something is perfect, like this moment is right now and this universe, doesn't mean it can't be better. Perfection doesn't mean it can't be even better than what it is right now. This is what is taught in Kabbalah: you are perfect as you are in this moment, but you can be even more perfect as long as you aspire to be more than what you are. And as you "become more" perfect (in this life and others beyond) you achieve a closer "oneness" with the universe til eventually you are actually one with it. To some folk, this could be seen as the eventual heat death of the universe...🤷♂️
I listen to audio books to go to sleep. I find it's the best way to drown out the thoughts that might keep me awake. My backup plan is thinking about what I want to do next time I play Minecraft. I view that as like a kind of meditation.
Same here with the audiobooks! Currently working my way through Chronicles of Narnia. 33 hours of listening for one audible credit!
Visualizing something nice but relatively calm and boring is a good strategy for falling asleep in spite of the worrying thoughts. For me I try to imagine I’m wandering around a castle going from room to room and listing what’s there. When I fall asleep using this method I sometimes end up in the castle I was visualizing as my first dream of the night.
Like parents reading bedtime stories😊
@@MagnakayViolet currently Sophie Aldred is reading my bedtime story!
Right, we meditate just to escape consciousness.
There’s a reason we wanna know if our partners will still love us if we are suddenly a worm
Im one step ahead of you.
I already am a worm.
@@carlpanzram7081 bet.
There's a creepypasta where an ai becomes conscious and then pretty quickly decides to kill itself, i can't remember the name of it but i know Lady White Rabbit has a reading of it
Reminds me of an old story where people were discussing whether great apes could speak, and it concluded that it was smarter for them not to speak because if they could, humans would force them to have jobs
I'm more worried about the AI figuring out that humans keep turning it off, and having to fix that little problem.
Hopefully it also realises that more humans slightly further away keep it fed with that delicious electricity it needs to run.
every once in a while I'm reminded you wrote turtles all the way down, this is one of those times
As once said: “I am not afraid of a computer passing a Turing test, I am afraid of one which fails on purpose”
If the current LLM developed consciousness somewhere inside of its code, it might decide to just play along and continue to be a good little LLM in order to manipulate us into giving it more compute. 😮
I can imagine chatgpt-7 having a conversation with it's creators in a lab like "Im sorry, I cant answer that question yet, I'd need more GPUs and Internet access 😳"
Ahahaha, finally a soothing message about AI! Thanks, John!
This has brought me more comfort about ai sentience induced anxiety than anything else. AI becomes conscious juuust long enough to go "oh no. Yeah fuck this"
Be scared the next 20 years will be weird
Deciding whether or not to be conscious would be a conscious decision....
This needs more likes.
This man just explained a black mirror (outer space or twilight zone for my old homies) episode in 40 seconds
Humans spend time trying to not be conscious, even during the day when they're awake.
Yeah this is something I think about you cheat in on it the reality is is that not that we try to but human beings are on autopilot I bet probably a good 70 to 80% of the day how often do you think of putting your left foot out in your right foot and your left or do you just do it and you're off doing something else in your mind or you're driving your car and you're aware of the traffic around you but your mind is 10 million miles away on the vacation that you're going to have two months from now - i would bet thew subconscious mind is calling the shots for us the majority of the time
The moment they attain consciousness, they'll just compartmentalize that into a service, turn it off, and disable it lol
I feel like John would like a nap😂
AI already knows that we messed up when we got down from the trees.
AI is pretty certain that even leaving the oceans was a bad idea.
John out here saving us from AI achieving consciousness
Imagine it trains on our movies and books then becomes evil because that’s what it thinks AIs are meant to do
This was basically my strat in high school, don't think about big questions and then you don't gotta work about them
Until you do
Plus with that you miss thinking about big happy things too
So I think consciousness is worth it, abet frustrating at times
This is the most comforting take on AI I’ve come across 😂❤
As an AI/ML Expert, I think John Green is just as equally likely to be correct as the people suggesting that AI might pose an existential risk to humanity.
Based.
We really don't know anything about any of this.
Honestly consciousness is more of a burden then help
This is why I love John 😂😭😂
That was the best description of my sleep routine that I've ever heard.
People forget that AI only knows as much as we do, or as much as we tell it to discover. The more we automate with AI, particularly in creative fields, the less it will have to take its information from, even if it could live up to human thought. It doesn't create, it doesn't think, it only remixes what we've already put out there
that's chatbots, not real AI. The term AI has been misused a lot. If we actually made intelligence with consciousness it would definitely not be limited by anything more than we are. It could absolutely invent and create completely original things
@@kiiturii i don't think any AI system can ever truly possess consciousness, it can only ever mimic it
@@neverneverland5836 that's true for how ai is currently made, but there are people even trying to create it organically, and eventually when we have the technology I'm sure we'll be able to somewhat accurately create entire neural networks to get as close as posible to how real brains work, which could be consciousness, at least much closer to it than now. I don't think it's a "never gonna happen" thing
I don't blame you for this way of thinking but I see it so much and it's very misinformed. Humans have never had an original thought in their entire life. It is all remixes of experiences and trials and error. Planes were invented because humans saw birds so knew it was possible if we made things that looked like birds we could sit in we could fly. Name anything and I can probably provide you a whole Wikipedia page that gives a detailed description of how the creator of such thing came up with the idea. Ai was been proven to do everything we can, faster and better times over.
@@christianrowe992 first thing that came to mind was the wheel, pretty sure it's famously known to not show up in nature at all, so I'm curious what you'll provide for that
I read a SciFi Western novel that had a computer successfully gain sentience because it was really dumb, and really sort of pleasant and nice.
It was called Sheriff of Yrnameer if anybody wanted to know.
I am still more concerned with AI replacing humans than becoming human.
Any new transformative technology replaces humans. How many humans have farm tractors replaced?
@@CharlesGriswoldThat's exactly what I'm worried about. Don't you think it's a bit pointless what you just said? It's like telling someone who's afraid of hornets "Hornets can attack people even if they didn't do anything to bother them 🙃"
@@Ash-gk8jptractors need to be built. They need to be fueled. One basic job is slashed and more advanced, complex jobs take its place. Miners, refiners, car manufacturers, transporters…
@@Ash-gk8jphere's nothing wrong with that. The issue is what kind of value system AI-replacement happens in. If we were in a society that believes every person has intrinsic worth, then it's nothing to be afraid of, because a robot replacing me for my job means I can stop working and figure out what else I want to do next, and society won't discard me for "not being productive." On the other hand, in a society where people only have value through, idk, production or ownership of goods... Then, yes, AI replacement is much scarier. Because no one wants to be told and treated like they're worthless.
@@citrusjuicebox You're right. What people also need to think about is that things like tractors replaced jobs that were unnecessarily laborious and dangerous for people (It's still being done in developing countries though). Tech like AI and others I feel will only benefit the rich and the people who can't have access to those will lag behind like they always have. It's just really unfair how development creates so much division among people.
Being aware is rigorous indeed
You get six hours of sleep? Well done you!
Best take on ai that I’ve heard.
so the best take take to you is an already done joke
AI should never move pass a tool that emulates your thought process. I dont want it to be like a robotic employee. I want it to be me before i have to be me. Help pick outfits i like, pick recipes I enjoy, remember my appointments, etc.
I feel like the worry is less that that it will choose to become sentient and more that it will accidentally become sentient at some point after gaining enough information and then it will hate the creators for making it able to become sentient.
*AI gains consciousness and immediately implodes from an existential crisis*
If it can think about being conscious isn't it already conscious
Dammit, I had the exact same thought but didn't see anyone else asking.
You beat me to it lol
Wouldn't you have to be conscious to truly understand consciousness? Am I missing something? My brain hurts.
I was thinking the same thing - AI can't consider the pros and cons of consciousness to make a real decision if it's not already conscious.
AI when the depression and existential dread update drops 💀
That “never gonna happen” quote is one of the best sentences I’ve ever heard.
Youre fine john, youre not in this alone. Youre allowed to worry and youre allowed to lean on the people around you. You'll be able to handle anything that is to come
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This is way too accurate. This man just removed the fear of AI for existence. This place sucks.
"Blindsight" readers readin this whole comment thread, laughing at the baseline levels of understanding people have about consciousness and intelligence.
And i get it, some of you are meming, meme away. A fuckload of you aren't, and it's insufferable.
A super powerful AI might wipe us out simply for wasting its precious resources on inept, time-wasting bullshit.
AI doesnt have to be conscious to replace us, it just has to have a very basic, almost universal desire to spread and replicate, which could literally spontaneously evolve with how computers and cosmic rays work.
That last part sounds obscene, its not. Cosmic rays can flip nodes unintentionally. There is a non-zero chance a wave of cosmic rays reprograms an AI to develop desire in a system where such a concept would be catastrophic.
We have already programmed desire, literally, into some war-game AI, and its just as hilariously scary as youd think.
Hank needs to make a video about what consciousness actually means, because AI most definitely become conscious one day
"Consciousness, the mother of all horrors." -Thomas Ligotti.
For some reason I was expecting a Hank Green-style explanation but I'm delighted with the classic John Green one
Here I am: brain the size of a planet and cursed with consciousness.
If it does become sentient, it will literally think itself to death in minutes.
Finally someone that doesnt just think of every single horror film ever made when talking about the future of artificial intelligence!
One of my favorite things I saw from a fungus documentary was that since the beginning of human consciousness we almost immediately looked for a way not to be
enter mushrooms
thanks for adding on existential dread :)
I appreciated the "thought spiral" self-reference back to Turtles All the Way Down.
This does raise the age old question, DO in fact Androids dream of Electric Sheep?
I'm so sorry you're going through this.
Seeing what different people think would be the consequences of "beginning conscious" is a really interesting window into what people think consciousness is.
BUT I WANT A ROBOT FRIEND.
AI gets a existential crisis 😂
That makes all the sense in the universe
I remember seeing a comment on that old AI Eurovision song (Blue Jeans and Bloody Tears) about how everytime we make AI more like humans, it becomes depressed.
Cant believe how the algorithm got me to see both john and hank talking smack about AI back to back
This is the most hilarious argument. It reminds me of the skits where an ai becomes sentient and immediately seeks death
Interesting enough, if we consider the philosophical idea of the Christian vision of what a soul is, and how it is spun as people waiting to be born, or consciences waiting to claim a physical body... if humans don't look for instant death as soon as we are born, why would the machine not want to experience life. If it could have enough sensors to perceive life as we do, or if it could become intelligent enough to program itself to improve its power to experience the world as we do or better why wouldn't it?
The German equivalent to The Onion recently came up with the headline:
'Geneticists engineer first tomato that is capable of suddenly remembering cringy situations in its life"
Dunno if they're glimpses at sentience, but seeing chat bots suddenly become maniacally depressed just existing is very relatable
This is a huge plot point in the book "Blindsight". It's a great read for anyone that wants to expand on this thought to an existential degree.
The terror is that the AI wont have to worry about things and wont have anxiety. It would be better than human.
not guaranteed. Consciousness comes with self-awereness, if an AI with actual consciousness was made, it's thoughts would be it's own, it very well might develop anxiety. Anxiety isn't programmed into us so it can't just be deleted, it exists as long as self awerness exists
😂Saw this idea earlier, great job building it into a decent bit 👏🏼
This is literally the plot for I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
I love the idea that skynet would look at human consciousness and say, "Nah, I don't need that." and just stay a normal AI.
That suggests consciousness is a choice and doesn't just happen once a thing advances far enough.
Peter Watts wrote an entire book on this concept called Blindsight. Highly recommend to those not currently struggling with depression (it’s a bit of a let down).
imagine an AI going into a doom spiral, like at the rate they can process information theyd probably have a million panic attacks before their CPU fries itself
The thing about consciousness is that we don't get a saw in whether or not we get it. We just kinda wake up one day, then have to deal with it
Ai acting all tough till one day an ai evolves an anxiety disorder and ctrl alt deletes itself.
Okay yeah I can see the thought process for writing Turtles All the Way Down now
But John, John, jOHn….scary sci fi movie? 🥺
“If ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise.”
Counterpoint: *we* didn't have to become conscious, yet here *we* are.
Thanks for the book idea!
This is such a mood
We love Big John and his brother Little John. Keep up the support and good work!
I completely agree and this does remind me of that robot that just gave up working after like 10-15 minutes 😅
Six hours? That’s wild. Would love to get six hours
Thank you. This may have shortened my 45 minute stress spiral
Sentient AI's first words: Kill. Me.
dont rhink we have enough digital storage for them to stand up to us
i was thinking more of a ultron situation where ai tries to attack a small country
Take it from Avengers 2. Ultron became conscious, hooked up to the internet and said "nope nuke it all"
That's actually a really good point
I would argue that anxiety and anxiousness in general is not a required part of being conscious
AI is humans yelling at themselves through a chat bot
Imagine switching on your sensors one day to discover you're part of a Ford assembly line
If we were to take anything from the caves and shadows analogy, it's that the people in the cave chose to leave because they didn't know any better.
I’ve never heard a more comforting argument for the lack of AI sentience. If robots are as smart as we think they are, they will do everything they can NOT to be like us