Ghanaian President Kwame Nkrumah outlines his vision of the future for Africa, one of the few good scenes from the intolerable royalist propaganda that is 'The Crown'.
I mean they're making a point about history. it might be wrong, but that's up for discussion. You can refute it, but let's not reduce geopolitical circumstances to emotions less than a century later.
the fact that this was pinned by the owner of this channel, says a lot. White privilege will always prevail, and that's okay because Ghanaians understand what Kwame Nkrumah was trying to do. In a way, it made a lot of sense that he was socialist. I can't expect you to understand because your white duh but, the British colonial rule was evil, it destroyed countries in Africa before we ever had a chance, Ghana only like 52 years old, its still really young and it's doing really well considering, British government and monarchy still benefit from the terror you imposed on the continent. I was born in London, but I will never ever claim this country as my own i want to know parts of this history or institution.
@@11iheartboyz So because someone is white they cannot understand being subjugated and colonised? I, as an Estonian find that extremely disrespectful. Better to have some degree of autonomy in the commonwealth than be under the rule of a Socialist Dictatorship.
Henrik Fitch nope you can’t understand it, even if you’re white born in a colonized country you’re still way more privileged than the rest of the population. Europeans don’t fully understand the destruction they caused on the world and how they continue to perpetuate those ideals and policies that keep on hurting ex colonies. Funny how every time there is a country leaning towards socialism both Europe and America do everything in their power to destabilize the economy and government (see Congo and South America), they want to keep us former colonies, subjugated to them
The Crown did get two things wrong in this scene. One: Nkrumah didnt wear kente when he made this speech. Two: yes Nkrumah admired Lenin but he didn't replace Queen Elizabeth II's portrait for one of his.
The portrait thing is just for narrative reasons so that the audience can understand what’s going on. They have to take a bit of creative licence for stuff like that to make the show good.
Let's be honest, our english accents are very similar. The only thing I noticed in the speech was how he said 'the time has '*COME*' pronouncing it like 'CORME'. A Ghanaian would probably say it like 'CAM'.
@Paz Belén What has dancing with the Queen got to do with anything. Nkrumah still worked on the liberty of Africa from western control and influence which made the CIA and imperialists to plot his assassination and getting him overthrown. The files are there. Also, there are many things the series got wrong regarding Nkrumah's interaction with the Queen. So I suggest you do some research before you make comments like this
@@hashsharma2630 Tf are you talking about, clown... Russians were going to be an ally, not a suppressor. Besides, it wasn't Russia that initiated or thrived from the slave trade. It was your precious Britain and US. Who is the dictator now. Do your research before you argue with me, clown
The man precipitated human misery and oppression on a massive scale. So, yeah, celebrate someone like that provokes anger. Same if they hung a picture of Hitler, or Mao, or Genghis Khan.
I mean you're right that the crown is sympathetic to the royalty without the necessary criticism of imperialism and colonialism, but also it's more about her than about the politics of what's going on around her. This scene is framed as antagonistic because it's contrary to her as a person not because it's actually wrong.
This scene was poignant of course but in my view the best scene in this episode was the Queen dancing with Nkrumah - a clever use of femininity and diplomacy - which really happened
@@kordellswoffer1520 No. It didn't. Maybe they danced, but the idea that it influenced policies is utterly ridiculous and insulting the everyone involved.
Lenin walks around the world. Frontiers cannot bar him. Neither barracks nor barricades impede. Nor does barbed wire scar him. Lenin walks around the world. Black, brown, and white receive him. Language is no barrier. The strangest tongues believe him. Lenin walks around the world. The sun sets like a scar. Between the darkness and the dawn There rises a red star. -Langston Hughes
@@santinoazurdia-fraser7486 Lenin is dead and so is the Soviet Empire. Britain has the Commonwealth with 2.5 billion members. The Soviet Empire has nothing but dust and ashes.
I find it very weird that Morocco had sent a representative considering the year the Queen went to Ghana was the year King Hassan II came to the throne and he was one of the fiercest anti-communists in Africa.
And yet, he was also a part of the anti-colonialist wave that swept through africa at the time, when the nations of africa wanted to get rid of colonial administration and replace it with their own. so there's that.
oren1neu1dag Actually Morocco was already independent when this happened. Hell, no country at this conference or any nation in Northern or Saharan Africa was under colonial rule by 1961 except for Algeria and some minor British possessions, but they became independent within a few years, what’s you point?
@@Edmonton-of2ec the point is the post-colonial influence and control remained a very controversial issue to this very day! for example in almost every former french or british colony in africa officers can only get their commission if they go through officer's school in either UK, France, the USA or the former USSR. that's hardly a sign of a true independent nation!
oren1neu1dag No it's a sign of nation not having a well-established military tradition or professional officer academia. Why wouldn't officers in developing nations want to attend some of the worlds most prestigious officer academies to receive their commissions. It's common sense and playing for an advantage, not neo-colonialism.
@@Edmonton-of2ec On the contrary, because so many african states lack the basis of a strong and independent civil society, the political leadership than comes from the ranks of the officers in the newly established militaries. that's why you can see that since african independence in 1960 most of the leaders of africa, came from the military - Nasser, Idi Amin Dada, Mobutu Sese Seko. That's why control on who's getting the officer's commission is generally a way for world powers to put "their guy" in power.
I agree, when I see the crown I’m like: „ buhu you lost your status and being monarch is hard in a country where you have only ceremonial duties, Seriously, my parents in east germany alongside millions of poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Rumanian, Ukrainians and many more Europeanans, to say nothing of the billions of people in Africa, South America and Asia had to live either in poverty or not in freedom, or many times both and many still do“
Africa never really ever became free it just fell under another sphere of influence. Those new spheres of influence actually destabilized Africa as a result of a “ gold rush” of greed and corruption. The story is always the same when any population is under tight control and then the next day suddenly set free there’s always a period of anarchy after. Former colonial empires also still exert tremendous influences on their former colonial territories .
Take down a picture of a person at the helm of a global racist genocidal colonial hegemonic power, and replace it with an anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist who overthrew the first person's relative, the monarch of the feudal backwater of Russia, which in 30 years turned into the second largest superpower on earth. There's a difference.
@@harshithsubramaniam5924 you might want to read about the crimes of the Soviet Union. It was as bad as the British Empire. They moved people I carriages to Siberia and massacred central and eastern European people. There is no difference
Hey now, a socialist Africa would have gotten in the way of all their heroin trafficking rings and child trafficking rings and then what would they even do?
The Ghanaian sun beat down mercilessly on Kwame Nkrumah, the first president of Ghana. He surveyed the progress of the new sanitation project with a satisfied smile. Waste management, he believed, was a cornerstone of a modern nation. Suddenly, the rickety wooden platform beneath him gave way. Nkrumah yelped in surprise, his arms flailing wildly. With a sickening thud, he landed face-first into a nearby trench - a trench currently overflowing with… well, let's just say it wasn't roses. He emerged, sputtering and gagging, a face mask of sewage clinging to him. His once pristine white suit was now an unrecognizable canvas of brown and green. The stench was enough to knock a vulture out of the sky. His entourage, a gaggle of nervous-looking officials, rushed to his aid, their faces contorted in a mixture of horror and suppressed laughter. Nkrumah, spluttering curses, noticed a figure standing a short distance away. It was Queen Elizabeth, on a surprise visit to Ghana. "Your Majesty!" Nkrumah bellowed, his voice thick with sewage. "A most unfortunate accident! Lend me a hand, would you?" The Queen, impeccably dressed in a floral print dress and a wide-brimmed hat, surveyed the scene with amusement. A single, perfectly manicured hand flew to her mouth, stifling a giggle. "Oh dear," she chortled, her voice laced with a barely concealed smirk. "Seems you've stepped in quite a… predicament, Mr. President." Nkrumah's face contorted in further fury. Sewage dripped from his chin. "This is no laughing matter, Your Majesty! I require assistance!" The Queen, her amusement bubbling over, dabbed a nonexistent tear from her eye with a lace handkerchief. "Indeed, a predicament. Perhaps a lesson in the importance of proper infrastructure?" Nkrumah, at his wit's end, sputtered incoherently. The stench was beginning to attract a swarm of flies. Finally, two burly Ghanaian guards, stifling their own laughter, waded into the sewage and fished the president out. As they hauled him away, Nkrumah, his once proud demeanor shattered, threw a withering look at the Queen. Elizabeth, her smile wide, simply gave him a regal wave. The news of Nkrumah's unfortunate dip in the sewage pit spread like wildfire. Cartoons depicted him drowning in waste, headlines screamed of "The Great Presidential Plunge." Nkrumah, red-faced and humiliated, vowed to expedite the sanitation project. As for the Queen, she returned to England, her visit forever etched in her memory as the time she saw a president take a rather literal nosedive for progress.
melo - maybe because people, myself included, disagree with the premise that it is the 'only' good scene in a superb drama series when it blatantly isn't
@@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 i haven’t watched the show yet, but the comments i’ve read didn’t seem to have anything to do with the show. thanks for filling me in.
I'm a republican (no, not the american political party-type of republican), yet I love this show. It is very petty, just because you're a socialist (which i am too) or republican to not like a show just because it centres the monarchy in it's story. There are plenty of moments in the show that criticises the monarchy, in fact, that is almost entirely what the show is set out to do, if you pay any attention, this show is not pro-monarchy. Show some media literacy.
So your for destroy our history and replacing it with the hell hole of the ussr, most of Africa post Imperialism and take us back to 1970s? People like you should just leave the country and go to those socialist countries you think are perfect. Socialism = shit hole country British Republican = Cornwall British socialist Republican = future dictatorship.
My understanding is that the later seasons in particular are quite critical of the monarchy, but I couldn’t get past the first few episodes. The whole focus of the show seemed completely off, I had no context for knowing who I really sympathized with because the show didn’t ground itself in anything that felt connected to reality.
I really don't get how the Crown can be seen as royalist. It paints an insulting picture of the family: cold-hearted, uneducated, psychologically struggling, bored and out of touch with reality. Did they actually see the show?
With all due respect to your opinion, Kwame Nkrumah was a dictator who made Ghana a Marxist dictatorsship, and who would later get ousted from his position and fled because of the economic crisis. I don't know if I would call this a bad scene, but it doesn't fit into my good scenes list. I was indeed a little fired up when it happened, I mean who doesn't get fired up when an african colony replaces their monarchs portrait with the man who started the Russian Revolution? But it isn't really.. The only good scene from the crown..
British rule in Ghana didn’t exist at this point, hell I don’t even know why he would’ve only been removing the Queens portrait only then, considering the Queen has already lost her title as Queen of Ghana. He was exploiting issues that did not effect Ghana any more for his own political gain.
C.C. F.F. Who is to say the Socialists wouldn’t didn’t do the very same? The only wanted and needed Africa for the same reasons the West did, despite whatever moral high ground they try to claim.
@@Edmonton-of2ec kwame Nkrumah was the man that fought and won Ghana's independence. He is the person that made sure the queen didn't rule over Ghana anymore. And the difference between what the west and what the socialists were doing is that socialists only backed people financially when they were on trouble and didn't exploit their resources, but instead gave them money to help keep them
Treyvon Lopez Those companies aren’t controlled by governments. And the armies are there because of the atrocities various countries and groups inflict on each other.
@@Edmonton-of2ec that's not the only reason why....there are civil wars going on because countries like france china and the uk are protecting the minds that mine minerals that go to their country ran by corrupt african leaders
Treyvon Lopez So why do you think it be so easy to just tell the companies to up and leave? They have weight to thrown and lots of money and lobbyists. It simply isn’t that easy.
@@flipsidenation7679 The civil wars have more to do with ethnic hatred between tribes and instability of weak rule of law or religious difference than with foreign influence. The borders of Africa realistically need to be redrawn just as needs to be done in the Middle East. Britain, France, and Belgium drew arbitrary lines that force people that hate each other to live together and separates those that actually do belong together as a state apart.
Nkrumah was overthrown in a CIA led coup and replaced by a military dictatorship that even the CIA said in its internal memo was "almost pathetically pro-western". Before he was overthrown, Ghana underwent a massive industrialization effort like post revolution Russia and china. After he was overthrown, the IMF went into Ghana and ordered the dictators to undo the industrialization, so that Ghana could be exploited for cheap labor. Don't let the red scare propaganda machine shit in your head.
Ghana is shit right now, because of CIA intervention. They aren't socialist. If you are an American, you live in a relatively privileged life because people in countries like Ghana are given poverty wages to satiate your endless consumerist hunger. This was the CIA's intention.
@@hmt4173 That is interesting because since his overthrow, the GDP per capita in Ghana has skyrocketed. And Ghana is considered one of the most stable and prosperous countries in Africa. Paranoid rantings about CIA and IMF don't really move the ball. The US has an interest in a developed Africa that trades with it. It has no interest in an impoverished Africa that only exports poverty and terror. That's your agenda I suspect.
Lenin isn't pure white, he's tatarian jews if you read biography about him, he have tatar ancestor which is kinda like mix between White and Mongols + bit Jews dna
Very much so, Queen Elizabeth set up concentration camps in Kenya, the British crown killed 1 billion people in India, it was the crown that starved and butchered the Irish for centuries, it was the crown that raped the African continent for centuries and shipping millions across the Atlantic, it was the British who set up the residential schools and genocide on the indigenous in pre-revolutionary America, Canada, and Australia, Queen Victoria herself overseeing the mass rape of indigenous women and kidnapping of children, it was the crown, that for even until today, lets homeless people starve and their own citizens work paycheck to paycheck, what has Lenin done, what has Marxism done, to be on par with capitalism? Let alone the British crown. Capitalism has had 200 years to solve homelessness, hunger, poverty and climate change, socialism has been in practice for 100 and has solved all of those, even stopping famines in the most famine prone countries in all of history, China had a famine for every 10 years from the 1800’s to the 1950’s, there hasn’t been a single famine since the agricultural reforms. “Muh Great Leap Forward” how many famines have happened since? Compared to how many famines predate collectivization? Socialism, Lenin and Marxism have been the single connecting link that has brought the largest jump in human life quality while liberal capitalism is still reeling over the emancipation proclamation
@Anti-Globohomo 🏳️🌈⃠ Lenin was never patriot, but radical internationalist, who hate Russia and imposed brutal communist state slavery over whole country and killed million people to secure his power. He misused naive people for his goals.
Yes fully agree with you. You understood. Should be banned in India. We are ashamed that still after so many things queen of england is still queen of other exploited countries(from whom the the evil empire plundered the wealth and left them at a bad state) as commonweath part. Its a very bad thing. Respect and solidarity.
pax43 Your realize the Commonwealth is a completely voluntary and non-binding entity and that the whole of a constitutional monarchy is that monarch can do whatever they want to. The Queen wasn’t even ever Queen of India, as it gained independence before she came to the throne. You can’t blame her for anything.
Happens when the cia backs a fascist junta to overthrow you when you are doing a diplomatic venture to a war torn country to show solidarity. How fair of the UK and US, who would later drop agent orange on Vietnam, WHAT HEROES!!
It is indeed! Ghana is one of the most peaceful nations in Africa. It's not perfect, but after going through coups orchestrated by the USA and installing corrupt leaders....I mean which country would be perfect?
Não sabia dessa parte que as antigas posses britânicas na África quase se virou para Moscou, na época o socialismo pós guerra era muito forte, igual na América vide Cuba...
How is The Crown royalist propaganda? If anything its the opposite. Besides if this is the "only good scene" then why didn't you quit watching by the end of the first season? How can anyone even be sure you watched it Like seriously tell everyone you didn't watch the show you hate without telling everyone you didn't watch the show you hate, holy pepega
Only good scene?? Yes it is a powerful and honest scene about the rise of Pan-Africanism but clearly whoever posted this has an anti-British chip on their shoulder and hasn't watched the rest of this superb drama
We all have the extreme luxury of being able to judge this scene from the context of history some sixty years or so later. Kwame Nkrumah picked the wrong team to side with, communism, of which he applied the euphemism, "socialism". He idolized Marxism and Lenin as shown by the large painting portrait of Lenin. (So was Nazism-the National Socialist Party.) He also ignored the thousands of years of tribal and cultural history of Africa. Africa is as politically, socially, economically, climatically as fragmented as Europe. The people of northern Africa are totally different from the African people in the middle and the south and vice versa. For thousands of years the innumerable tribes competed and fought each other long before the coming of the European white man. To think that every African was going to ignore or put aside his long tribal cultural history for some kind of 'united Africa' was fantastical thinking. Even the movie scene shown here does not depict enthusiasm from the delegates. Quite the opposite, the delegates show discomfort, uneasiness, suspicion, confusion, and perhaps as of yet unspoken disagreement. Who is going to rule this, united Africa? If not democracy but socialism, then a ruling cabal of powerful leaders under one man is going to rule Africa. No presiding African delegate there wants to his country to be ruled by men from another part or tribe of Africa. We haven't even begun to speak about the clash of civilizations. The northern Africans, Berbers, Moroccans, Algerians, all hail from great past civilizations from the time of Rome to the glory days of Islam power and have no desire to be subordinate in any kind of a so-called united Africa that might be ruled by men from the 'more primitive' south. Even today when things are somewhat better, there is no talk of a united Africa or a confederation of any kind. Similar situations existed around the globe. The vast number of native American tribes in North America could never conceive of a united political continent, not when their ancestors fought tribal wars of glory and survival against neighboring tribes, even in the face of the encroaching European colonists.
uhhhh I don't know how to tell you this, but it's pretty well known that Hitler and the Nazis hated communism and thought of it as a Jewish conspiracy because of Marx's Jewish heritage. Many Bolsheviks were Jews as well, so the Nazis blamed a lot of Germany's problems on communists, including the Reichstag fire. It's even better known that they sent quite a lot of socialists and communists to concentration camps. Like...that's pretty basic history 101. Thinking the Nazis were socialist/communist because of the name of their party is like believing baby powder is actually made from babies. Also, Ghana enjoyed a period of a relatively high quality of life under Nkrumah, since he pushed through a lot of industrial initiatives and educational reforms. Ghana actually got much worse after the military-led and CIA funded coup. Including a plummeting economy and a suspension of the constitution/banning of political parties.
@@BassTrombone95 Thank you for explaining the marketing of the german fascists of the 30s and early 40s to him, you saved me a lot of time. I agree with you about Ghana too. Liberté, Egalité et Fraternité!
@@Dwarfplayer National SOCIALIST Party of Deutschland (Germany). Says one German citizen: "I am proud to be a socialist and of what socialism has done for Deutschland (Germany). I know dwarfplayer you have been ingrained from childhood to deny the Nazis were socialists and were just fascists, without being told that both are one and the same. There were different faces of socialism then and now. Can you imagine visiting Germany in 1938 and telling a German citizen on the street, "Hey, you're really not a socialist and your Hitler government is really not socialist." You would have come in for some really harsh language, not to mention the Gestapo would start following you around. I truly understand that you cannot acknowledge something that was ingrained into your psyche like concrete. But yours is an opinion. Mine is historical fact. It happened. It was reality. Oh, and one thing about all socialists, left and right, they believe in changing history to suit their ideology. We're doing it in the United States right now with the left-wingers claiming what an evil racist, slave nation the U.S. has always been and should never have been established.
Good job telling the first man to ever declare the independence of a colony and the coiner of the ideology of Pan-Africanism how wrong he is about black liberation
@@joancollaku8744 Are you talking to me, or somebody else? Because Lenin sure as hell didn't coin the ideology of Pan-Africanism, and he sure as hell wasn't the first to declare the independence of a colony either.
@@joancollaku8744 Also Nkrumah didn't coin the ideology of Pan-Africanism, and he sure as hell wasn't the first to declare the independence of a colony. Neither Nkrumah or Lenin were.
This didn’t actually happen in real life. It was added onto the show for effect and to show what the concern was on the part of the British in the direction Kwame Nkrumah was going in.
you mean when the devil's portrait in hung rather than hunted. I won't deny my ignorance about Lenin, but from what I do know I'd have said that Stalin, Hitler, Goebels, maybe Molsely but definitely Trevelyan were closer to the title of devil.
@@Bot-gy9gx No it isn't. Socialism isn't good for any country, and if you look closely you realise that even African people of African nations are just as guilty of committing Slavery. But we won't hear that will we? And this isn't what that line of dialogue is referencing, it was yet again highlighting the trans-atlantic slave trade like it was a 1 sided thing. All Europe bad, All Africa innocent victim. It's never that cut and dry.
Your argument boils down to "Africans enslaved other Africans, therefore we should shut up about the entire scale, scope and impact of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in North America, the untold violence and cruelty of it, the war fought because people wanted to continue to enslave other people, and the impact it had on everyone living in the United States today as well as the rest of the world". Because other people joined in, any part Europeans and white Americans played in it cannot be mentioned until we, what? Acknowledge that the world is more than black and white, that people are complicated and there are far more than two sides? Mate, it is more nuanced than that, but the part other Africans played in the enslavement of West Africans does not cancel out the parts white Europeans and Americans played in it for over two hundred years. Going on from 1619, white Americans could have stopped all this much sooner than 1865, and they could have written the 13th amendment to not include the line "...except as punishment for a crime." The fact that they didn't and the fact that there's still a lot of holdover from the time of slavery to today means we still have to talk about it -- I mean, unless you're want to talk about how Britain got a lot of its wealth from slavery. We wouldn't want to narrow down the conversation, right?
@@rachelfox8108 "North America" it goes to show how little you know about African slave trade because all you are parroting is a talking points of American white liberals with a lot of white guilt in them. Out of the entire Transatlantic slave trade, only 3% of slaves came to United States? Where do you think 90%+ of slaves go? To latin America, where most of them were worked to death, didn't get to make a family, what survived were still seen as second class citizens & still blacks are discriminated in South America to this day. Why doesn't slavery in Latin America not mentioned very eagerly by White liberals & black Americans? No don't shut up about Trans Atlantic slave trade, instead if you are actually fair & not just expressing white guilt, many like you would also extensively talk about Arab slave trade which was the biggest slave trade in human history. 700 million human beings & mostly Africans that suffered under that, there were also millions of European whites who were kidnapped by Barbari pirates back by the ottomans & were sold into slavery in Ottomon empire & middle East. A lot of Africans even some black Americans idolized Mansa musa, the so-called richest man in history, who sold hundreds of thousands of his fellow West Africans into Arab slave trade. Instead y'all just keep raging about Atlantic slave trade as if it was the first time slavery happened in human history, not even full Atlantic slave trade just the parts that concerns the anglo-sphere. That's mighty picky. You can acknowledge one thing without ignoring the others. Of course it doesn't cancel out the part Europeans & white Americans played in it. But it was a WHITE European group British who stopped the slave trade & banned slavery around it's global empire at a vast economic cost even back when that thinking wasn't mainstream. UK just recently got done paying the massive debt it incurred when by banning slavery & compensating the slavers & patrolling the large parts of oceans to stop slave trade. What other racial & ethnic group was as progressive at the time? You expected the white Americans who didn't had self-rule until late 1700s to stop slavery in America back in 1600s? You are not thinking clearly. In just 25 yrs from declaration of independence, all northern states had abolished slavery. But it's amazing to me you look from 21st century lenses & say why didn't they ban slavery in America back in 1600s Or 1700s when slavery or serfdom was a norm in most non-european places(minus Russian empire). It's absolutely baffling to me. What's next you are gonna ask why didn't they legalize gay marriage back then? Come on. Sure let's talk about how British empire got their wealth from slavery, but let's also talk about how every single freaking empire white & non-white alike also got a lot of wealth from slavery.
Wow you are so bitter
I mean they're making a point about history. it might be wrong, but that's up for discussion. You can refute it, but let's not reduce geopolitical circumstances to emotions less than a century later.
the fact that this was pinned by the owner of this channel, says a lot. White privilege will always prevail, and that's okay because Ghanaians understand what Kwame Nkrumah was trying to do. In a way, it made a lot of sense that he was socialist. I can't expect you to understand because your white duh but, the British colonial rule was evil, it destroyed countries in Africa before we ever had a chance, Ghana only like 52 years old, its still really young and it's doing really well considering, British government and monarchy still benefit from the terror you imposed on the continent. I was born in London, but I will never ever claim this country as my own i want to know parts of this history or institution.
Kendi_Nana You didn't read the video description, did you?
@@11iheartboyz So because someone is white they cannot understand being subjugated and colonised? I, as an Estonian find that extremely disrespectful. Better to have some degree of autonomy in the commonwealth than be under the rule of a Socialist Dictatorship.
Henrik Fitch nope you can’t understand it, even if you’re white born in a colonized country you’re still way more privileged than the rest of the population. Europeans don’t fully understand the destruction they caused on the world and how they continue to perpetuate those ideals and policies that keep on hurting ex colonies. Funny how every time there is a country leaning towards socialism both Europe and America do everything in their power to destabilize the economy and government (see Congo and South America), they want to keep us former colonies, subjugated to them
The Crown did get two things wrong in this scene. One: Nkrumah didnt wear kente when he made this speech. Two: yes Nkrumah admired Lenin but he didn't replace Queen Elizabeth II's portrait for one of his.
Wait, what?! Really?
I think they're trying to make a point about Nkrumah's commitment to socialism
But he should have
The portrait thing is just for narrative reasons so that the audience can understand what’s going on. They have to take a bit of creative licence for stuff like that to make the show good.
Yeah I thought it was weird when they replaced a white rulers portrait with another white rulers portrait 🤔
The accent is not really Ghanaian. There's a bit of Nigerian in there
Well he’s British so that’s probably why, lol
Do we have accent here?
I met 3 sisters at the beach; each sounded Liberian, Ghanaian & another
Let's be honest, our english accents are very similar. The only thing I noticed in the speech was how he said 'the time has '*COME*' pronouncing it like 'CORME'. A Ghanaian would probably say it like 'CAM'.
British TV writers try not to think all Africans are the same challenge
Anyway he danced with The Queen. Sorry.
Here’ here’ .. the Fox-trot to I believe
No, they danced to Highlife music.
@Paz Belén What has dancing with the Queen got to do with anything. Nkrumah still worked on the liberty of Africa from western control and influence which made the CIA and imperialists to plot his assassination and getting him overthrown. The files are there.
Also, there are many things the series got wrong regarding Nkrumah's interaction with the Queen. So I suggest you do some research before you make comments like this
@@hashsharma2630 Tf are you talking about, clown... Russians were going to be an ally, not a suppressor. Besides, it wasn't Russia that initiated or thrived from the slave trade. It was your precious Britain and US. Who is the dictator now. Do your research before you argue with me, clown
And that is a far better scene than this communist propaganda, lol.
A picture of Lenin always brings anger in people in the comments.
Triggered libs can’t handle lenins swag
@@jimboonie9885 no it's people who thought he was a terrible man.
@@jimboonie9885 No it's people who lived in countries enslaved by his idiotic ideology and had to see that ugly face on portraits for decades
@@kordellswoffer1520 yea that's what he said, liberals
The man precipitated human misery and oppression on a massive scale. So, yeah, celebrate someone like that provokes anger. Same if they hung a picture of Hitler, or Mao, or Genghis Khan.
I wanted claire foy in all the 6 seasons
I mean you're right that the crown is sympathetic to the royalty without the necessary criticism of imperialism and colonialism, but also it's more about her than about the politics of what's going on around her. This scene is framed as antagonistic because it's contrary to her as a person not because it's actually wrong.
I mean, it’s morally neutral. Lenin did and does not qualify as a good person by quite literally any sense of the word
The Soviet Union did imperialism too
@@americanloyalist4599 ok
The Aberfan Disaster episode did me in
@@americanloyalist4599 nope
This scene was poignant of course but in my view the best scene in this episode was the Queen dancing with Nkrumah - a clever use of femininity and diplomacy - which really happened
No. It did not happen 🤨
@@CaliganVoid it did.
@@CaliganVoid it did
@@kordellswoffer1520 No. It didn't. Maybe they danced, but the idea that it influenced policies is utterly ridiculous and insulting the everyone involved.
@@cuddybud5316 No. It didn't. Maybe they danced, but the idea that it influenced policies is utterly ridiculous and insulting the everyone involved.
Holy based
Based? Hahahaha
The title and description 😂😂
Cope and seethe 😂😂 It’s the truth
what, a vision that eventually proved wrong?
Tipical of Commies
The only good scene is there the actor who plays as the male speaker who admires Lenin and also the birbs
Lenin walks around the world.
Frontiers cannot bar him.
Neither barracks nor barricades impede.
Nor does barbed wire scar him.
Lenin walks around the world.
Black, brown, and white receive him.
Language is no barrier.
The strangest tongues believe him.
Lenin walks around the world.
The sun sets like a scar.
Between the darkness and the dawn
There rises a red star.
-Langston Hughes
Lenin lives!
I love that poem
Lenin begot Stalin. Fuck the Soviet Union, Lenin and Stalin.
@@santinoazurdia-fraser7486 Lenin is dead and so is the Soviet Empire. Britain has the Commonwealth with 2.5 billion members. The Soviet Empire has nothing but dust and ashes.
The only thing in his way is economics
I find it very weird that Morocco had sent a representative considering the year the Queen went to Ghana was the year King Hassan II came to the throne and he was one of the fiercest anti-communists in Africa.
And yet, he was also a part of the anti-colonialist wave that swept through africa at the time, when the nations of africa wanted to get rid of colonial administration and replace it with their own. so there's that.
oren1neu1dag Actually Morocco was already independent when this happened. Hell, no country at this conference or any nation in Northern or Saharan Africa was under colonial rule by 1961 except for Algeria and some minor British possessions, but they became independent within a few years, what’s you point?
@@Edmonton-of2ec the point is the post-colonial influence and control remained a very controversial issue to this very day!
for example in almost every former french or british colony in africa officers can only get their commission if they go through officer's school in either UK, France, the USA or the former USSR. that's hardly a sign of a true independent nation!
oren1neu1dag No it's a sign of nation not having a well-established military tradition or professional officer academia. Why wouldn't officers in developing nations want to attend some of the worlds most prestigious officer academies to receive their commissions. It's common sense and playing for an advantage, not neo-colonialism.
@@Edmonton-of2ec On the contrary,
because so many african states lack the basis of a strong and independent civil society, the political leadership than comes from the ranks of the officers in the newly established militaries. that's why you can see that since african independence in 1960 most of the leaders of africa, came from the military - Nasser, Idi Amin Dada, Mobutu Sese Seko.
That's why control on who's getting the officer's commission is generally a way for world powers to put "their guy" in power.
I agree, when I see the crown I’m like: „ buhu you lost your status and being monarch is hard in a country where you have only ceremonial duties,
Seriously, my parents in east germany alongside millions of poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Rumanian, Ukrainians and many more Europeanans, to say nothing of the billions of people in Africa, South America and Asia had to live either in poverty or not in freedom, or many times both and many still do“
Africa never really ever became free it just fell under another sphere of influence. Those new spheres of influence actually destabilized Africa as a result of a “ gold rush” of greed and corruption. The story is always the same when any population is under tight control and then the next day suddenly set free there’s always a period of anarchy after. Former colonial empires also still exert tremendous influences on their former colonial territories .
a lot of awful things have been done in the name of "revolution" and "freedom". No different to doing things in the name of "God"
I agree, although anarchy is not chaos, it is order without hierarchy.
@@incognitosecret2377 anarchy is for children
Still some denigrating aspects like goats and animals in the building and the old dirty rag that they used to cover the portrait of the queen.
Not to mention the "scary" war drums that kick in when he says the bad socialism word
Take down one picture of a white person, and replace it with another picture of a white person... how symbolic.
Take down a picture of a person at the helm of a global racist genocidal colonial hegemonic power, and replace it with an anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist who overthrew the first person's relative, the monarch of the feudal backwater of Russia, which in 30 years turned into the second largest superpower on earth.
There's a difference.
@@harshithsubramaniam5924 you might want to read about the crimes of the Soviet Union. It was as bad as the British Empire. They moved people I carriages to Siberia and massacred central and eastern European people.
There is no difference
@@MiSt3300 That was Stalin, not Lenin.
@@MiSt3300 how is going to prison (gulag in siberia) a crime. Who was massacred in central europe, nazis?
@@MiSt3300 “You should read the propaganda the British wrote about the Soviets”
A socialist Africa, if only.
Damn you CIA
Hey now, a socialist Africa would have gotten in the way of all their heroin trafficking rings and child trafficking rings and then what would they even do?
@@PhalisoBringerOfDoom and Diamond smuggling, ivory harvesting, Military-industrial complex money etc.
Dont forget France, they've worked overtime to make sure that doesn't happen
@@ned_isakoff the specter of Sankara will liberate francafric & haunt France once again
Plenty of African countries did manage to become socialist, and yet where did socialism get them?
It did make it clear that the Royal family was extremely flawed.
The Ghanaian sun beat down mercilessly on Kwame Nkrumah, the first president of Ghana. He surveyed the progress of the new sanitation project with a satisfied smile. Waste management, he believed, was a cornerstone of a modern nation.
Suddenly, the rickety wooden platform beneath him gave way. Nkrumah yelped in surprise, his arms flailing wildly. With a sickening thud, he landed face-first into a nearby trench - a trench currently overflowing with… well, let's just say it wasn't roses.
He emerged, sputtering and gagging, a face mask of sewage clinging to him. His once pristine white suit was now an unrecognizable canvas of brown and green. The stench was enough to knock a vulture out of the sky.
His entourage, a gaggle of nervous-looking officials, rushed to his aid, their faces contorted in a mixture of horror and suppressed laughter. Nkrumah, spluttering curses, noticed a figure standing a short distance away. It was Queen Elizabeth, on a surprise visit to Ghana.
"Your Majesty!" Nkrumah bellowed, his voice thick with sewage. "A most unfortunate accident! Lend me a hand, would you?"
The Queen, impeccably dressed in a floral print dress and a wide-brimmed hat, surveyed the scene with amusement. A single, perfectly manicured hand flew to her mouth, stifling a giggle.
"Oh dear," she chortled, her voice laced with a barely concealed smirk. "Seems you've stepped in quite a… predicament, Mr. President."
Nkrumah's face contorted in further fury. Sewage dripped from his chin. "This is no laughing matter, Your Majesty! I require assistance!"
The Queen, her amusement bubbling over, dabbed a nonexistent tear from her eye with a lace handkerchief. "Indeed, a predicament. Perhaps a lesson in the importance of proper infrastructure?"
Nkrumah, at his wit's end, sputtered incoherently. The stench was beginning to attract a swarm of flies. Finally, two burly Ghanaian guards, stifling their own laughter, waded into the sewage and fished the president out.
As they hauled him away, Nkrumah, his once proud demeanor shattered, threw a withering look at the Queen. Elizabeth, her smile wide, simply gave him a regal wave.
The news of Nkrumah's unfortunate dip in the sewage pit spread like wildfire. Cartoons depicted him drowning in waste, headlines screamed of "The Great Presidential Plunge." Nkrumah, red-faced and humiliated, vowed to expedite the sanitation project.
As for the Queen, she returned to England, her visit forever etched in her memory as the time she saw a president take a rather literal nosedive for progress.
Down with aristocracies. Long live THE PROLETARIAT
Lmao based
I’m pretty sure there were a few other good scenes
i’m so confused as to why the video is so disliked? also, why is the comment section such a war zone?
melo - maybe because people, myself included, disagree with the premise that it is the 'only' good scene in a superb drama series when it blatantly isn't
@@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 i haven’t watched the show yet, but the comments i’ve read didn’t seem to have anything to do with the show. thanks for filling me in.
So they replace imperialism with communism.
That's like replace bad with worst.
Replace slavery with freedom
@@JohnDoe-bh2lp Freedom for leaders, not for citizens
@@erikzelada5578 explain what you want to say
@@TrustedPradeepWhoooooooosh
@@dogbert14 you are so cool I want to be like you please give me your contact information
whats the ost called?
Based swapping of the portraits
You're actually a fking rtard if u think that was based
I loved this show, even though some scenes are unacurate for the sake of drama.
0:51 nice
I'm a republican (no, not the american political party-type of republican), yet I love this show.
It is very petty, just because you're a socialist (which i am too) or republican to not like a show just because it centres the monarchy in it's story. There are plenty of moments in the show that criticises the monarchy, in fact, that is almost entirely what the show is set out to do, if you pay any attention, this show is not pro-monarchy.
Show some media literacy.
Look dude, the show is just lame as shit.
So your for destroy our history and replacing it with the hell hole of the ussr, most of Africa post Imperialism and take us back to 1970s?
People like you should just leave the country and go to those socialist countries you think are perfect.
Socialism = shit hole country
British Republican = Cornwall
British socialist Republican = future dictatorship.
My understanding is that the later seasons in particular are quite critical of the monarchy, but I couldn’t get past the first few episodes. The whole focus of the show seemed completely off, I had no context for knowing who I really sympathized with because the show didn’t ground itself in anything that felt connected to reality.
@@alexanderwill2847 Yeah the later seasons are definitely no lovers of the monarchy.
I really don't get how the Crown can be seen as royalist. It paints an insulting picture of the family: cold-hearted, uneducated, psychologically struggling, bored and out of touch with reality. Did they actually see the show?
With all due respect to your opinion, Kwame Nkrumah was a dictator who made Ghana a Marxist dictatorsship, and who would later get ousted from his position and fled because of the economic crisis. I don't know if I would call this a bad scene, but it doesn't fit into my good scenes list. I was indeed a little fired up when it happened, I mean who doesn't get fired up when an african colony replaces their monarchs portrait with the man who started the Russian Revolution? But it isn't really.. The only good scene from the crown..
U know nothing about Nkrumah..
Am sure u r not even a Ghanaian
British rule in Ghana didn’t exist at this point, hell I don’t even know why he would’ve only been removing the Queens portrait only then, considering the Queen has already lost her title as Queen of Ghana. He was exploiting issues that did not effect Ghana any more for his own political gain.
Araba Afedzi R u?
C.C. F.F. Who is to say the Socialists wouldn’t didn’t do the very same? The only wanted and needed Africa for the same reasons the West did, despite whatever moral high ground they try to claim.
@@Edmonton-of2ec kwame Nkrumah was the man that fought and won Ghana's independence. He is the person that made sure the queen didn't rule over Ghana anymore. And the difference between what the west and what the socialists were doing is that socialists only backed people financially when they were on trouble and didn't exploit their resources, but instead gave them money to help keep them
The only thing that saved this scene was Danni Sapani.
To Africa
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
FOR THE REPUBLIC!!! Oups! Sorry! Wrong reference! :)
Lol nobody cares queen
PetrolHead Brasil Oh look.. A triggered royal nuthugger
Keep licking boots
Long live the queen
Di they ever talk about Seretse Khama and Ruth Williams in 'The Crown'?
Loved this scene!!! I enjoyed when her portrait was removed from the wall!!! I
That never happens and Ghana just from a colony to dictatorship
Could I ask why?
@@baphomethelpme3497 because I liked it …..
@@blinktambo255 well you can’t just say that, is it the sets or the costumes??
You appear to lack familiarity with African history.
How's that working out for you?
To your government to get their mining companies and army the fuck out of Africa
Treyvon Lopez Those companies aren’t controlled by governments. And the armies are there because of the atrocities various countries and groups inflict on each other.
@@Edmonton-of2ec that's not the only reason why....there are civil wars going on because countries like france china and the uk are protecting the minds that mine minerals that go to their country ran by corrupt african leaders
Treyvon Lopez So why do you think it be so easy to just tell the companies to up and leave? They have weight to thrown and lots of money and lobbyists. It simply isn’t that easy.
@@flipsidenation7679 The civil wars have more to do with ethnic hatred between tribes and instability of weak rule of law or religious difference than with foreign influence. The borders of Africa realistically need to be redrawn just as needs to be done in the Middle East. Britain, France, and Belgium drew arbitrary lines that force people that hate each other to live together and separates those that actually do belong together as a state apart.
based.
I cannot believe Kwame Nkrumah replaced the photo of Claire Foy with Vladimir Lenin
How tough it must be, betraying the very nation that taught you civility
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok kid
How's that socialism working out for ya?
Nkrumah was overthrown in a CIA led coup and replaced by a military dictatorship that even the CIA said in its internal memo was "almost pathetically pro-western". Before he was overthrown, Ghana underwent a massive industrialization effort like post revolution Russia and china. After he was overthrown, the IMF went into Ghana and ordered the dictators to undo the industrialization, so that Ghana could be exploited for cheap labor. Don't let the red scare propaganda machine shit in your head.
Ghana is shit right now, because of CIA intervention. They aren't socialist. If you are an American, you live in a relatively privileged life because people in countries like Ghana are given poverty wages to satiate your endless consumerist hunger. This was the CIA's intention.
@@hmt4173 That is interesting because since his overthrow, the GDP per capita in Ghana has skyrocketed. And Ghana is considered one of the most stable and prosperous countries in Africa. Paranoid rantings about CIA and IMF don't really move the ball. The US has an interest in a developed Africa that trades with it. It has no interest in an impoverished Africa that only exports poverty and terror. That's your agenda I suspect.
@@mikekeenanphd do you know what BOFA is?
@@hmt4173 I didn't realize that was the level of your dialectic. My apologies. I will move along.
Like everything he said was straight facts…this is exactly why i stopped watching the crown
Remove one White and Put Other over it... just wow🤣🤣🤣🤣
So?
stop being obsessed with skin color your cringe delusional clown.
Lenin isn't pure white, he's tatarian jews if you read biography about him, he have tatar ancestor which is kinda like mix between White and Mongols + bit Jews dna
nkrumah was a gigachad
I see the title “The Crown” and all I can think of is Ali G’s idea for a book/movie.
Not even close buddy
Just as Europe kisses goodbye to one dictatorship, Africa sleepwalks into embracing another...
Ghana forever!!!
Теперь вместо картина Елизаветы второй картина Владимира Ильича Ленина
Yeah...worked out well for everyone.
Yeah because Lenin is so much better LOL
Yes, its much better.
Very much so, Queen Elizabeth set up concentration camps in Kenya, the British crown killed 1 billion people in India, it was the crown that starved and butchered the Irish for centuries, it was the crown that raped the African continent for centuries and shipping millions across the Atlantic, it was the British who set up the residential schools and genocide on the indigenous in pre-revolutionary America, Canada, and Australia, Queen Victoria herself overseeing the mass rape of indigenous women and kidnapping of children, it was the crown, that for even until today, lets homeless people starve and their own citizens work paycheck to paycheck, what has Lenin done, what has Marxism done, to be on par with capitalism? Let alone the British crown. Capitalism has had 200 years to solve homelessness, hunger, poverty and climate change, socialism has been in practice for 100 and has solved all of those, even stopping famines in the most famine prone countries in all of history, China had a famine for every 10 years from the 1800’s to the 1950’s, there hasn’t been a single famine since the agricultural reforms. “Muh Great Leap Forward” how many famines have happened since? Compared to how many famines predate collectivization? Socialism, Lenin and Marxism have been the single connecting link that has brought the largest jump in human life quality while liberal capitalism is still reeling over the emancipation proclamation
@Anti-Globohomo 🏳️🌈⃠ Lenin was never patriot, but radical internationalist, who hate Russia and imposed brutal communist state slavery over whole country and killed million people to secure his power. He misused naive people for his goals.
Yes
Infinitely superior
Yes fully agree with you. You understood. Should be banned in India. We are ashamed that still after so many things queen of england is still queen of other exploited countries(from whom the the evil empire plundered the wealth and left them at a bad state) as commonweath part. Its a very bad thing.
Respect and solidarity.
Banned in India for what?
pax43 Your realize the Commonwealth is a completely voluntary and non-binding entity and that the whole of a constitutional monarchy is that monarch can do whatever they want to. The Queen wasn’t even ever Queen of India, as it gained independence before she came to the throne. You can’t blame her for anything.
Get over it.
I wish I could put that painting of the queen in my house lol
Which scene
Who's here after Barbados becomes a republic?
the only good scene?
honestly? I agree
Than why are you watching it?
that vision went well didn't it, Ghana is doing so well!!!
Happens when the cia backs a fascist junta to overthrow you when you are doing a diplomatic venture to a war torn country to show solidarity. How fair of the UK and US, who would later drop agent orange on Vietnam, WHAT HEROES!!
Yup, 10% GDP growth since 2015 annually despite white western sabotage.
It is indeed! Ghana is one of the most peaceful nations in Africa. It's not perfect, but after going through coups orchestrated by the USA and installing corrupt leaders....I mean which country would be perfect?
@@R2Holloway13 go live there then
@@pygmy. I did. Went all over too. From Volta, Accra, Cape Coast. All over.
The ONLY good scene?
The nasser scene was good withal.
Daring aren't we?
The crown is a very interesting, with lots of good scenes, barcodereader, you are bitter
That's why there shouldn't be a Wi-Fi connection for slaves.
Ok kid
As somebody from Ghana also, I do think about this scene also. 😕
You mad bro?
Não sabia dessa parte que as antigas posses britânicas na África quase se virou para Moscou, na época o socialismo pós guerra era muito forte, igual na América vide Cuba...
lol why the hate? its a good drama series but you have to take it with a huge salt of grain considering the brits love their monarcy
A monarchy that lounges around doing nothing while people are starving.
@@godzillavkk Im talking about the tv show not the monarchy
@@BlaidWhiteYo Well, for me and others, the show is just propaganda about a family who doesn't realize how outdated they are.
How is The Crown royalist propaganda? If anything its the opposite. Besides if this is the "only good scene" then why didn't you quit watching by the end of the first season? How can anyone even be sure you watched it
Like seriously tell everyone you didn't watch the show you hate without telling everyone you didn't watch the show you hate, holy pepega
Better dead than red
Kid
@@drilluk979 moron
Rule, Britannia!
what can we say but, based
Only good scene??
Yes it is a powerful and honest scene about the rise of Pan-Africanism but clearly whoever posted this has an anti-British chip on their shoulder and hasn't watched the rest of this superb drama
[goat bleats]
Wakanda forever
Look its general tshombe
Kwame Nkrumah denouncing corruption and authoritarianism? LOL. Liked the Lenin portrait, though.
"Seek ye first the political kingdom", indeed.
hell yeah dude
To be blunt most of Britain`s former African colonies were better off under British rule
Fck communism!
really? the Queen for Lenin? really?!
Yes
loool This isn't Nkrumah at all hahaha
cope, seethe, and mild
We all have the extreme luxury of being able to judge this scene from the context of history some sixty years or so later. Kwame Nkrumah picked the wrong team to side with, communism, of which he applied the euphemism, "socialism". He idolized Marxism and Lenin as shown by the large painting portrait of Lenin. (So was Nazism-the National Socialist Party.) He also ignored the thousands of years of tribal and cultural history of Africa. Africa is as politically, socially, economically, climatically as fragmented as Europe. The people of northern Africa are totally different from the African people in the middle and the south and vice versa. For thousands of years the innumerable tribes competed and fought each other long before the coming of the European white man. To think that every African was going to ignore or put aside his long tribal cultural history for some kind of 'united Africa' was fantastical thinking. Even the movie scene shown here does not depict enthusiasm from the delegates. Quite the opposite, the delegates show discomfort, uneasiness, suspicion, confusion, and perhaps as of yet unspoken disagreement. Who is going to rule this, united Africa? If not democracy but socialism, then a ruling cabal of powerful leaders under one man is going to rule Africa. No presiding African delegate there wants to his country to be ruled by men from another part or tribe of Africa. We haven't even begun to speak about the clash of civilizations. The northern Africans, Berbers, Moroccans, Algerians, all hail from great past civilizations from the time of Rome to the glory days of Islam power and have no desire to be subordinate in any kind of a so-called united Africa that might be ruled by men from the 'more primitive' south. Even today when things are somewhat better, there is no talk of a united Africa or a confederation of any kind. Similar situations existed around the globe. The vast number of native American tribes in North America could never conceive of a united political continent, not when their ancestors fought tribal wars of glory and survival against neighboring tribes, even in the face of the encroaching European colonists.
Grande Artiste this comment just shows why western powers should never even have an opinion about the third world
and your reply shows why it was probably a mistake to give you internet access before an education.
uhhhh I don't know how to tell you this, but it's pretty well known that Hitler and the Nazis hated communism and thought of it as a Jewish conspiracy because of Marx's Jewish heritage. Many Bolsheviks were Jews as well, so the Nazis blamed a lot of Germany's problems on communists, including the Reichstag fire. It's even better known that they sent quite a lot of socialists and communists to concentration camps. Like...that's pretty basic history 101. Thinking the Nazis were socialist/communist because of the name of their party is like believing baby powder is actually made from babies.
Also, Ghana enjoyed a period of a relatively high quality of life under Nkrumah, since he pushed through a lot of industrial initiatives and educational reforms. Ghana actually got much worse after the military-led and CIA funded coup. Including a plummeting economy and a suspension of the constitution/banning of political parties.
@@BassTrombone95 Thank you for explaining the marketing of the german fascists of the 30s and early 40s to him, you saved me a lot of time. I agree with you about Ghana too. Liberté, Egalité et Fraternité!
@@Dwarfplayer National SOCIALIST Party of Deutschland (Germany). Says one German citizen: "I am proud to be a socialist and of what socialism has done for Deutschland (Germany). I know dwarfplayer you have been ingrained from childhood to deny the Nazis were socialists and were just fascists, without being told that both are one and the same. There were different faces of socialism then and now. Can you imagine visiting Germany in 1938 and telling a German citizen on the street, "Hey, you're really not a socialist and your Hitler government is really not socialist." You would have come in for some really harsh language, not to mention the Gestapo would start following you around. I truly understand that you cannot acknowledge something that was ingrained into your psyche like concrete. But yours is an opinion. Mine is historical fact. It happened. It was reality. Oh, and one thing about all socialists, left and right, they believe in changing history to suit their ideology. We're doing it in the United States right now with the left-wingers claiming what an evil racist, slave nation the U.S. has always been and should never have been established.
Ленин великий человек
In your country obviusly
ding dong the witch is dead!
and replaced by a black witch
@barcodereader are a communist?
seething pommies in the comment section
How did that work out for you.
Lmao take down that white woman and put up the white man
Matthew Smith Yes, aren’t they just so progressive
Bruh.... She represents Imperialism... And ge represents socialism... There's a difference!
Good job telling the first man to ever declare the independence of a colony and the coiner of the ideology of Pan-Africanism how wrong he is about black liberation
@@joancollaku8744 Are you talking to me, or somebody else? Because Lenin sure as hell didn't coin the ideology of Pan-Africanism, and he sure as hell wasn't the first to declare the independence of a colony either.
@@joancollaku8744 Also Nkrumah didn't coin the ideology of Pan-Africanism, and he sure as hell wasn't the first to declare the independence of a colony. Neither Nkrumah or Lenin were.
Yeah how did this turn out?
Terribly. Western Backed Coup after Western Backed Coup & Sanctions.
@@GAZAMAN93X Yeah the west has acted stupidly in Africa
@@GAZAMAN93Xyeah but today ghana is still of of best countries in africa
Well alright
It would have been sick if they had thrown the Queen in to a pit of alligators
The only difference between a dictator and a monarch is the crown
Why independence, stop independence.
'Royalist propaganda'? The Crown is a fucking masterpiece...
Masterpiece my ass
The crown literally is propaganda 😂
Me when the Queen’s portrait is removed: “Fair enough, independence.”
Me when the devil’s portrait is hunted: 😳
Devil? Was it the portrait of some leader of the political west?
Lenin did nothing wrong
This didn’t actually happen in real life. It was added onto the show for effect and to show what the concern was on the part of the British in the direction Kwame Nkrumah was going in.
Of course for monarchists Lenin is devil but for the proletariat he is god
you mean when the devil's portrait in hung rather than hunted.
I won't deny my ignorance about Lenin, but from what I do know I'd have said that Stalin, Hitler, Goebels, maybe Molsely but definitely Trevelyan were closer to the title of devil.
My favorite scene from *The Crown:*
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based
You appear to be a generic anti-imperialist republican.
cheeky reference to "slavery" cos when you discuss freedom of black people you have to discuss slavery...
Imperialism is slavery
@@Bot-gy9gx No it isn't. Socialism isn't good for any country, and if you look closely you realise that even African people of African nations are just as guilty of committing Slavery. But we won't hear that will we? And this isn't what that line of dialogue is referencing, it was yet again highlighting the trans-atlantic slave trade like it was a 1 sided thing. All Europe bad, All Africa innocent victim. It's never that cut and dry.
Your argument boils down to "Africans enslaved other Africans, therefore we should shut up about the entire scale, scope and impact of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in North America, the untold violence and cruelty of it, the war fought because people wanted to continue to enslave other people, and the impact it had on everyone living in the United States today as well as the rest of the world". Because other people joined in, any part Europeans and white Americans played in it cannot be mentioned until we, what? Acknowledge that the world is more than black and white, that people are complicated and there are far more than two sides? Mate, it is more nuanced than that, but the part other Africans played in the enslavement of West Africans does not cancel out the parts white Europeans and Americans played in it for over two hundred years. Going on from 1619, white Americans could have stopped all this much sooner than 1865, and they could have written the 13th amendment to not include the line "...except as punishment for a crime." The fact that they didn't and the fact that there's still a lot of holdover from the time of slavery to today means we still have to talk about it -- I mean, unless you're want to talk about how Britain got a lot of its wealth from slavery. We wouldn't want to narrow down the conversation, right?
@@rachelfox8108
"North America" it goes to show how little you know about African slave trade because all you are parroting is a talking points of American white liberals with a lot of white guilt in them.
Out of the entire Transatlantic slave trade, only 3% of slaves came to United States? Where do you think 90%+ of slaves go? To latin America, where most of them were worked to death, didn't get to make a family, what survived were still seen as second class citizens & still blacks are discriminated in South America to this day. Why doesn't slavery in Latin America not mentioned very eagerly by White liberals & black Americans?
No don't shut up about Trans Atlantic slave trade, instead if you are actually fair & not just expressing white guilt, many like you would also extensively talk about Arab slave trade which was the biggest slave trade in human history. 700 million human beings & mostly Africans that suffered under that, there were also millions of European whites who were kidnapped by Barbari pirates back by the ottomans & were sold into slavery in Ottomon empire & middle East. A lot of Africans even some black Americans idolized Mansa musa, the so-called richest man in history, who sold hundreds of thousands of his fellow West Africans into Arab slave trade.
Instead y'all just keep raging about Atlantic slave trade as if it was the first time slavery happened in human history, not even full Atlantic slave trade just the parts that concerns the anglo-sphere. That's mighty picky. You can acknowledge one thing without ignoring the others.
Of course it doesn't cancel out the part Europeans & white Americans played in it. But it was a WHITE European group British who stopped the slave trade & banned slavery around it's global empire at a vast economic cost even back when that thinking wasn't mainstream. UK just recently got done paying the massive debt it incurred when by banning slavery & compensating the slavers & patrolling the large parts of oceans to stop slave trade. What other racial & ethnic group was as progressive at the time?
You expected the white Americans who didn't had self-rule until late 1700s to stop slavery in America back in 1600s? You are not thinking clearly. In just 25 yrs from declaration of independence, all northern states had abolished slavery. But it's amazing to me you look from 21st century lenses & say why didn't they ban slavery in America back in 1600s Or 1700s when slavery or serfdom was a norm in most non-european places(minus Russian empire). It's absolutely baffling to me. What's next you are gonna ask why didn't they legalize gay marriage back then? Come on.
Sure let's talk about how British empire got their wealth from slavery, but let's also talk about how every single freaking empire white & non-white alike also got a lot of wealth from slavery.