SpaceX huge Upgrades for First catching Starship Booster...SpaceX Weekly #5
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- SpaceX huge Upgrades for First catching Starship Booster...SpaceX Weekly #5
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SpaceX's Starbase Soaring for Starship Flight 4! Falcon’s 300th landing...
00:00 - 07:08: Starbase, Starship, and FAA updates
SpaceX just revealed Starship's OLM major design changed...
07:09 - 11:25: OLM clamp arm upgrade
Elon Musk just revealed SpaceX Wild Plans to Catch Starship Booster!
11:25 - 17:03: Landing Booster
17:04 - 21:07: Important preparations
From Copycat to Partner with Elon Musk's SpaceX. What the heck is the Pentagon doing?
21:08 - 22:54: SpaceX Starship plan
22:55 - 27:04: Pentagon’s wrong decisions
27:05 - 29:54: Pentagon’s problems
SpaceX's Starbase Soaring for Starship Flight 4! Falcon’s 300th landing...
29:55 - 31:35: Falcon 9 new record
31:36 - 33:43: Rocket Lab's Electron mission
SpaceX just revealed Starship's OLM major design changed...
33:43 - 36:23: New Glenn's schedule
36:24 - 39:30: JAXA's SLIM mission update
39:31 - 39:46: Outro
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SpaceX huge Upgrades for First catching Starship Booster...SpaceX Weekly #5
Starbase, Starship, and FAA updates
The excitement is palpable as SpaceX gears up for what could be a historic milestone: Flight 4. With each passing day, the anticipation builds, and SpaceX engineers are laser-focused on ensuring the success of this pivotal mission.
SpaceX huge Upgrades for First catching Starship Booster.
Following upgrades to the flame trench system and Booster QD, SpaceX is forging ahead with preparations for the mission. Let's delve into the latest developments.
First up, let's examine the hardware for this flight. S29 has been stationed in the High Bay for nearly a month since its roll on March 29. During this period, meticulous attention has been devoted to the heat shield, underscoring the importance of ensuring every detail is meticulously addressed.
SpaceX huge Upgrades for First catching Starship Booster.
In a recently updated image, the nose cone of S29 stands proudly adorned with a fresh set of heat shield tiles-a testament to the meticulous attention to detail invested in its preparation. While this work likely concluded several days ago, the unveiling of a clear image now serves to confirm its completion.
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the best part is no part, the best design is no design.. so lets get rid of them nasty landing legs and build a hugely complex catch tower!
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There are no catch towers on the Moon or Mars. They aren't just trying to reach LEO like Boeing or Blue Origin.
So, when we will start talking about how insane its gonna be to catch Starship? No margin of error
theres a pretty good margin actualy. just like f9 it will guide the entire reentry, and because it can hover it has more margin than f9. thus if the landing engines work it will have more fail safes than f9. 3 engines to land but 1 needed to hover, meaning great engine out capability. hover means it can place it self precisely where you want it to be when catching.
I completely agree, this seems way too soon, I might be missing something but if the engines fail the kinetic energy of the booster would be insane right?
Fear not Starship fans:
. Imagine the high accuracy required to bring a falcon nine booster back from hypersonic speeds hundreds of miles away to land on a tiny barge in the ocean.
. If an engine fails the trajectory for return is such that starship would impact harmlessly in the ocean and not reach the launch tower.
@@warrenwhite9085 Closer to the tower though, a spontaneous failure or shutdown right as it tries to tilt from the steep angle of attack could get ugly
@@alonenow Like Falcon, Starship’s booster return approach will be planned & calculated to have a tiny window where failure of engine or anything else could cause landing area damage, Particularity for early flights. If anything is not going well it will dump into the drink.
They will have demonstrated a perfect procedure in virtual tower landings over the ocean before trying it for real.
Although I would build & use a separate catching tower until the catching process is perfected, not risk the only launch tower complex.
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For the booster catch faze if I were elon I'd build a designated catching tower who's sole purpose is to catch boosters far enough away from the fuel farm and other structures so if there was an accident then it wouldn't affect the fuel farm or any other structures
Excellent idea!
I agree 100% that way you don't stop launches if you have a failure
Agreed. Maybe elon is looking to see how well this will work for the 1st catch. If it goes south the next 2.0 tower will be engineered and no dought stronger. Once they get the correct upgrades then they can think about adding all the improved towers all over the place. It's tough being 1st.
I think Spacex will not try a catch until the second tower is operational
Even the space shuttle has tile issues, and lost a crewed vehicle due to those tile issues.
And was more successfully landing than Space X Ship.
@@dorneanudoruSpaceX hasn't attempted to land a Starship yep so your argument has no validity.
The loss of the Columbia had nothing to do with its tiles.
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I quote, "Catching the booster with the chopsticks! Going to be like catching a high-speed baseball with a glove!" 🧐⚾️
Tiles on the starship are not finished like the bathroom tiles don't they have grate around them or heat resistant grate.
Can they overlay the actual tower with the virtual tower, and have the actual tower respond to the virtual landing?
So, I get they use tile rather than a solid shield because hey have to expand & distort in the extreme heat. It would be good if they could create much larger tiles / panels from material that expanded in thickness rather than width. 🤔
Great suggestion
I reckon the more Rigid the “Hold-Down “ clamps;the more tiles will SHAKE OFF” during Pre-Launch. Somehow it strikes me that it should so occur. One hopes not for Starship s sake.
Is there a reason they can’t have a separate tower to catch the booster?
I think they are planning to build new tower
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6:29 Road clsure April 25/26 ???
25 or 26, not all
U are missing something in "particalar and meticlous".
22:28 Why do we always have to be happy and enthusiastic that the military will benefit from these advantages? Does anyone believe that "the others" will sit on their hands? And so it will spiral! And all this for a pivotal role? And always mention humanism or military effort. If I were Elon, I'd let Blue Origin do the dirty work. If the Pentagon gets involved in the conquest of Mars we can all go to bed! I don't even want to hear about the Pentagon after the developments in Ukraine!
I wonder if the engineers at SpaceX have done some modeling and sims on how well the tower and chop sticks arms holds up if a not so gentle landing by the booster? If the booster shuts down too early, just a few inches higher than the touch points could result in a massive amount of down force as those chop sticks are hammered by the weight of the booster with some momentum.
Of course they have. Do you think SpaceX would be dumb enough not to do that modeling?
@@ryanab01 I work in aerospace. Electrical Engineer designing electronics for 28 years. Guidance and Nav is my expertise. Do you work in aerospace? You would be surprised at what slips through the cracks.
@eeman1335 after seeing all of the issues that Boeing has because they let things fall through the cracks, I have to agree. I'm an IT engineer, but I went to school for a couple of years for computer engineering. I also work for the Air Force.
If they'd just have put an a.i.r.b.r.a.k.e. on the side of the slim lander, They could have righted it remotely... Every KSP nerd knows that.
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Just a quest cant they vasten shield inside ship
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq. Thx i know i ask why cant they fasten it inside of ship then they wont lose tiles?
@@francoistheron1913 The tiles are coming off, not the attachments which are attached to the hull.
HUGH, SHOCKING OMISSION BY GSX! Kevin hasn't said a word about how SpaceX is upgrading B11 and S29 to provide consistent and stable control of each stage's attitude. Come on Kevin this is a FUNDAMENTAL issue to test Chopstick recovery or heat tile effectiveness.
If B11 snake dances through the sky precision will not be available to test the catch. And S29 will not show heat tile adhesion if it decides to sit on its Raptors instead of belly flopping.
why didnt they drop the vertical tanks below the ground..
Water table.
What do you mean?
I think there's always a problem with digging down as they are at sea level, but you'd think they could easily create suitable tanks sitting just below ground.
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq yeah thats what i meant i mean they have dug the flame trench at the other site which goes below the water table.
the land is a sand bar
Should have used SpaceX Optimus prime robots to catch the earth 🌎 returning booster heavy.
Never underestimate the government's limitless capacity to waste money...
Yeah, Boeing has counted on this for decades.
I wonder if there is a putty that SpaceX can use between the tiles to help distribute the effects of vibration, to help distribute the connections of tiles to the ship, and to help increase the level of insulation from reentry heat.
Would add literally tons of weight. It's a big ass ship
Hey man your audio is going in and out on this clip
These days, cheerleading is the path to SpaceX guaranteed success! SpaceX flights now have cheerleaders (instead of the straight announcers of the falcon nine days) who cheer at everything that happens, even obvious failures, and ignore things that might be difficult to talk about. Success is guaranteed if you have the right cheerleaders!
Every flight introduces new features or refined processes. Most flights have successfully implemented these updates, and that deserves recognition.
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Good points. During the falcon nine days of development, you could count on SpaceX announcers actually knowing what they were talking about and reacting honestly to failures or issues. These days, SpaceX seems to have replace those announcers with cheerleaders who know little about what’s actually being done on the flight , what needs to work and how it needs to work, what new processes or approaches are being tested, etc. This is very sad because it means that the management at SpaceX apparently has much different goals than developing a good launch vehicle. I think with the first three or four flights of starship, the goal of SpaceX management is to do investors into plowing more money in SpaceX so that they can develop starship. To that end, the promises and prognostications and predictions that Elon makes are growing further and further away from reality.
@@wbwarren57 I don't believe anyone who is tracking the development of all of the various rockets and engines would believe anything other than SpaceX will continue to dominate the industry for the next 50 years.
Booster is probably gonna cannibalize it’s engine again. It doesn’t have enough fuel and have not solved the fuel positioning problem. Sure it survived getting tapped on the head, but it still had forward momentum. As it comes down, engine first, the fuel (whatever is left) will drift to the top of the booster. The fuel intakes are at the bottom…
Have you never watched the falcon 9 land before??? Same exact conditions.
@@kylehayes6432 falcon 9 is quite a lot smaller so fuel slosh and fuel hammer affect superheavy more. But knowing SpaceX they'll find a way.
Same stuff over and over again
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Baffles will not work to prevent the fuel slushing problem, because the tanks of the starship system are too large. That is the only reason why the starship engines have been exploding every time.
The solution:
The tanks of Starship and Superheavy need 2 disk valves, expanding the diameter of each tank. One of the disks, the one on top, rotates above the contiguous disk to close the overlaping holes on the surface of the disks; to reduce the Size of the tank by dividing it, before any rotation or acceleration of the rocket. This will prevent slushings and protect the plumbing, if located 10% above the bottom section of each tank. Large telescopic pistons can be attached below the bottom of disk valves to control the fuel pressure as the piston expands into the fuel tank.
I have built a model that works perfectly. The second disk valve can be located 10% below the front of the tank, to also protect the front of the tanks from the slushing forces.
The gridfins are too flat and too small to be effective enough and will not be able to control the booster.
Why is Elon not using four pins instead of three to secure each heat shield tyle? Four anchor points provide far more stability to secure a tyle, not three. Also, each type should be constructed with the bottom half of the brick consisting of an interwoven latice of steal mixed into the silicon, to provide a foundation of strength and durability to each tyle. What is more important than securing the heat shield by providing the maximum stability and strength to each tyle? The interwoven steal mesh lattice mixed into the bottom half of the bricks, and the four anchor points would eliminate the problems of tyles falling off the ship every time there is an engine ignition event. Please get this message to Elon. Thank you.
Also, Spacex needs 3 actuators to move the payload bay doors correctly, not two. They have only two now, one at each end of the payload bay. They need one at the center position. Three will guarantee that there will always be enough support to open and close the doors, even if one of the three fails.
I know the spacex engineers can see these problems. It is like ignoring the elephant in the room. The solutions should be a no-brainer. Musk needs to hire people who can be trusted and who will not continue accepting bribes from Jeff Bozo to sabotage and cause unnecessary delays to the Spacex Statship program.
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@israelitenet I always laugh at the hubris of backseat drivers and armchair quarterbacks who believe their knowledge and understanding is superior to the folks on the spot. If you are such a sierra hotel engineer why are you not working for SpaceX right now?
This shit is just amazing to watch happen. Never thought i would see the next stage of space travel after the shuttle failure
Excellent stuff bro, go Elon
I am eagerly awaiting information on why SpaceX had problems reigniting engines on both the booster and the spacecraft. All the pundits are blaming the engineers. Either Elon shared information with them that they never shared with us or they are ignoring the possibility of fuel issues caused by the erratic, uncontrolled descent of the booster. Also no one has confirmed if the spaceship door closed or not. I can see that an open cargo door allowing hot plasma to enter inside the ship and causing excessive drag and destroying the craft from the inside. Quit assuming that you know the cause when you may not be sharing all you know with the public.
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The landing tower is 1/4 the height it needs to be. Add mechanical squid tentacles to chopsticks.
Oh, did you send your technical plans to SpaceX to incorporate them into the design? Remember, the solutions have to use the K.I.S.S. principle and be efficient.
@@ryanab01 I've built patented more complex prototypes w/o any plans. If they are half competent, should be no problem.
Rockets??? Why not surface warships? No spectacular crashes. Zumwalt destroyers/cruisers would have had a much tighter connection between builders and users. US has almost 10,000 high accuracy Excalibur 155mm shells in stock
Another big success .. just like the Cyberjunk ..😅 .. Musk is one slick snake oil salesman
I unsubscribed from this garbage weeks ago but youtube keeps sending me links.
Keep crying baby
Whining is a sure-fire way to see more of these vids.
@@stratolestele7611 lol
Pace X didn't solve the heat shield problem, which is the same problem with NASA space shuttles, which so far have landed more successfully than Space X. Maybe using a space shuttle with a Starship booster is more effective. It's just that the heat shield problem will remain the same.
Do you know why the Space Shuttle is no longer used? Once you do your research then you will have answered your own question.
@@ryanab01the heat shield issues remain the same. Imagine the Columbia disaster on a larger scale with Space Ship X. Let's talk about costs 40 years from now. Now it's just estimates and dreams. So far not even the booster has landed safely yet. The space shuttle had high costs due to replacing the heat shield and non-reusable boosters. It's what I said. Of course, the space shuttle wasn't the best cost-effective solution, but technologically it was a marvel, plus it was a thing of beauty.
@dorneanudoru SpaceX is working on a permanent solution. It is difficult or else it would have solved already. Regardless, the heat shield on the Starship costs far less than the one on the Space Shuttle due to the fact that the tiles on the Space Shuttle were all unique shaped.
@@ryanab01 the materials have evolved. And that's not because of Space X. I'm sure if the space shuttle was still in use, NASA could change the materials the plates are made of with new ones that are cheaper and less heavy. I'm curious to see what a shuttle would look like if it was made by SpaceX.
@dorneanudoru what you fail to realize is every tile on the space shuttle was custom due to the shape of the shuttle.
I want to say starship only uses like 4 different tiles.
Now imagine you are in orbit and you notice a tile is broken. If you were even capable of fixing it, NASA would have to launch a rocket just for 1 tile.
So who was the genius who who thought it would be a good idea to vertical fuel tanks next to a rocket launch tower ... and... launch a rocket with twice the power of a Saturn V with a concrete Pad ( no fire trench, no water deluge) ... and send the second & third stages Lunar Launch system to the moon requiring at at least 15 refueling of their tanks with cryo fuel & oxider to get a Lander to the moons surface and back to moon orbit to then dispose of the vehicles because of no fuel that required 15 plus refuels in LEO.
Stop shilling and gaslighting
The Starship Lander is a stupid idea ... especially when the Apollo CSM & Lander require and disposable Saturn V rocket and Service & Lander modules. And catching the booster & Starship wil eventually work .... but NASA paid for a large Lunar Lander ... not a reusable Starship, a Starlink dispenser, and Elon's "Gateway to Mars."
A fully reusable Starship ... is only good for putting large cargo into LEO ... cheaply & quickly ... because the Starships, fuel & oxidizer is made on Earth. The Starship includes the disposable 2nd & 3 rd stages of Saturn V rocket that are jettisoned during flight to reduce mass for the rockets to propel to the the moon where the Service module and get into low moon orbit and take the command module back to earth and out of fuel.
See. Starshp moon & Mars landers .. are just plain stupid. However a Starship could get a large Command & Service module into LEO ... with possibly enough fuel to do a translunar injection, get in low moon orbit and return to a LEO to be refueled by a Starship. And if this Service Module put into LEO by a Starship ... can take at least large Command or Lander module to the moon & back to LEO ... then this Transport Module along with Command & Lander Modules ... that Space X should be providing for NASA ... not a Starship Lander.
Space X can already use the Falcon Heavy to send a Lander for 7 days for two ... to the Moon. It could also send a CSM to the moon. But it will mean the 3rd booster will be lost
Enough with the BS shilling for Elon's idiotic Starship Lander.
Keep following and wait for their next feats
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SpaceX is thinking bigger than your feeble mind allows. If you think you know better, then why not talk to Musk and get hired on to help them design better. Instead, all I hear from you are derogatory statements.
I see you spouted the same nonsense under more than one CZcams account. CZcams needs to ban your accounts.
This design is not even good for Mars. Why to land such a massive ship when it will be more of a heavy, empty shell when it reaches Mars orbit? Furthermore, why to land humans on Mars instead of controlled robots from Mars orbit? Some Boston Dynamics or Tesla robots can save precious lives by working controlled from orbit by some humans, and be used to prepare everything necessary for a later subsequent human landing. Even for the moon this massive design is stupid. Why to land and raise such a massive ship? To fly in orbit is ok, but not for moon landing. The design needs to be rethought to be more modular and some parts of it to remain on the surface of the Moon or Mars for later use, such as, for example, basic habitable modules, of course empty, rovers, robots and batteries. I think it's better to first build a Modular Moon Station with truck-like modules on wheels so they can be moved and connected in different configurations or to be easy moved to other locations.
The first to go to Mars will be Tesla Bots, not humans. The bots will set the stage for humans to go. The huge ships are necessary because they have to transport many, many tons of cargo and eventually humans.
@@ryanab01 why to land something so massive? I am imagining how is to land on Mars some UFO like ships carried inside a big Spaceship. Funny, no? Actually the Earthers to "invade" Mars with UFO saucers. I am sure that when the Mars mission will start the design will be complete different for the landers than the actual one. First of all before Mars let see if Space X is able to land and to do a base on Moon and before of this the basic space refueling and an new orbital base station to be used for further launches.
One launch tower and one catch tower. The catch tower does not need QD arms. No fueling system - much safer. ʇǝu˙ʇoqoɹǝɥʇǝoz
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