Family Might Not Get Damages for Space Junk Hitting Their House

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  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch Před 6 dny +298

    I'm surprised that NASA didn't have the FBI raid the house to retrieve their property.

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 Před 6 dny +5

      Very cynical. I Stand with Our FBI 🎗️

    • @Mezog001
      @Mezog001 Před 6 dny +82

      @@carlyellison8498It is not cynical when it is realistic.

    • @newshodgepodge6329
      @newshodgepodge6329 Před 6 dny +26

      I thought they only did that when the widows of NASA scientists try to offload trinkets their husbands brought home.

    • @Kilmej78
      @Kilmej78 Před 6 dny +3

      If they did that that could make them liable.😂

    • @newshodgepodge6329
      @newshodgepodge6329 Před 6 dny +3

      @@Kilmej78 They'd still try to talk their way out of it.

  • @clbcl5
    @clbcl5 Před 6 dny +263

    If it was an anvil and not a piano, you sue ACME.

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 Před 6 dny +15

      Considering that lawyers "shotgun" lawsuits, and sue, whoever may be involved, a certain coyote, that ordered that anvil, will probably also be sued.

    • @troyallen8223
      @troyallen8223 Před 6 dny +1

      😊😊😊😅

    • @barnabusdoyle4930
      @barnabusdoyle4930 Před 6 dny +5

      I thought ACME only made things that exploded

    • @andrewb8015
      @andrewb8015 Před 6 dny +6

      @@barnabusdoyle4930 anvil are also big seller😂😂

    • @barnabusdoyle4930
      @barnabusdoyle4930 Před 6 dny +3

      @@andrewb8015 As I recall, their anvils are packed with C-4, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen them in action

  • @timbarnett3898
    @timbarnett3898 Před 6 dny +84

    I didn't get any compensation for $40,000 fbi damages to my family home then driving off! US gov needs to be responsible for their damages to citizens property!

    • @davidh9638
      @davidh9638 Před 6 dny +10

      In my personal opinion, that is a 5th amendment violation.

    • @timbarnett3898
      @timbarnett3898 Před 6 dny

      I have copy right here to study! Thanks

    • @avereth
      @avereth Před 5 dny +6

      If they get to waste unlimited citizen tax money to fight citizens in court they should be liable.

    • @cycleboy8028
      @cycleboy8028 Před 4 dny +3

      No individual should be held responsible for the misdeeds of the govt actors.

  • @johnp139
    @johnp139 Před 6 dny +210

    Shouldn’t their insurance company be going after NASA, NOT the family???

    • @joshua43214
      @joshua43214 Před 6 dny +23

      they only want few grand for damages the rest is emotional distress. The insurance company won't give them $60k for being scared

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 Před 6 dny +13

      Not all policies cover falling objects.

    • @mikep490
      @mikep490 Před 6 dny +20

      Yes, the insurance company will pay the $15K in damages (less deductable). The family wants a payoff for "damages" not covered by insurance.

    • @draighodge6039
      @draighodge6039 Před 6 dny +21

      Insurance can subrogate after making the insure whole. The obstacle is that "not covering Acts of God or Government" clause. Insurance companies run away because they know the evil tricks governments are wont to use in order to avoid responsibility (i.e. Qualified Immunity, prosecuting witnesses, Sovereign Immunity, etc.).

    • @tomeauburn
      @tomeauburn Před 6 dny +11

      Hope the family didn't have Allstate or State Farm to cover it. Most recent hurricane they covered less than 50 percent of damages.

  • @randolphscudder2372
    @randolphscudder2372 Před 6 dny +131

    Are they implying that our country should take care of our own people? What a unique concept.

    • @Mike1614b
      @Mike1614b Před 6 dny +5

      this Govt is more concerned with Ukraine

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano Před 6 dny +4

      That's entirely crazy talk, that whole welfare clause only being for government and big business or some other hand wave.

    • @bovinityleak2066
      @bovinityleak2066 Před 5 dny +1

      A foreign concept.

    • @bovinityleak2066
      @bovinityleak2066 Před 5 dny +1

      @@Mike1614bjust stop.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Před 3 dny

      @@spvillano "General welfare" ... as in every law must benefit everyone, not individuals.

  • @meritholdingllc123
    @meritholdingllc123 Před 6 dny +52

    It's government....they'll spend 20x more than the settlement amount to fight it in court.

  • @resterAnonyme
    @resterAnonyme Před 6 dny +186

    We have a constitutional right to get made whole. The 9th Amendment is supposed to prevent the government from taking our rights even if not directly enumerated by the constitution, but the courts refuse to apply anything to our 9th Amendment right.

    • @DellikkilleD
      @DellikkilleD Před 6 dny +3

      lmfao, you cant be serious. foh kid

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Před 6 dny +9

      Under the taking clause they owe but they might not get pain and suffering

    • @Nostradevus1
      @Nostradevus1 Před 6 dny +12

      @@patrickday4206Yeah unless someone dies I don’t think they get pain and suffering. They should get recouped the cost of repairs and cost of living while house is uninhabitable.

    • @mencken8
      @mencken8 Před 6 dny

      ……and that is YOUR legal opinion.

    • @gasad01374
      @gasad01374 Před 6 dny +1

      no rights were taken in this case?

  • @christianlainesse4281
    @christianlainesse4281 Před 6 dny +54

    I think it would be much cheaper for NASA to just pay to repair the house than go though all the legal hoops

    • @robert20770
      @robert20770 Před 6 dny +6

      But it would be NASA that pays the bill, but the Justice Department that fights it in count. The thing with government (local, state, federal) lawyers is, they will fight and fight in court, even if it costs WAY more to fight it then to settle the claim. That is what the lawyers are paid to do.

    • @KISSMYACE3203
      @KISSMYACE3203 Před 6 dny +3

      It sets a precedent that they'll pay, which can bring more suits knowing that there's a chance they can get monies.

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner Před 6 dny

      @@KISSMYACE3203 Yes and there's the chance that it could be some big damage they end up liable for in the future. On the other hand, it would have to be pretty severe to be more than a drop in the bucket for government budgets.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 6 dny +1

      No, not really, NASA does not want to set the precedent that incurs liability Should anything else fall out of orbit.

    • @geekfreak618
      @geekfreak618 Před 5 dny

      They lost the worm filled can opener. They can't just open those cans willy nilly and let the worms loose. Too expensive!

  • @linuxmill
    @linuxmill Před 6 dny +51

    you know what I like about you? you are simply a rational guy that enjoys helping people rational law. a normal American. It's a pleasure listening to you

  • @jackhammer8563
    @jackhammer8563 Před 6 dny +40

    There shouldn't need to be a law that makes NASA responsible for their equipment falling from orbit and smashing any property. That should just be automatic.

    • @tin2001
      @tin2001 Před 6 dny +5

      Yeah. Any government entity, anywhere, should automatically repair any damage they have caused. Forget whether you are allowed to sue them... It should just be automatic that they pay for repairs that occur both through their negligence or their standard operations. You break it, you bought it, in other words.

    • @geekfreak618
      @geekfreak618 Před 5 dny +2

      Yes, because there really is no way to judge how much comes down. A lot is never noticed, and some that is found in populated areas isn't recognized as space junk. People would think it was common litter if it didn't hit anything like a house.

    • @jackhammer8563
      @jackhammer8563 Před 5 dny

      @@tin2001 That's how I was raised.🤷🏻

    • @jackhammer8563
      @jackhammer8563 Před 5 dny +1

      @@geekfreak618 Especially in this case where people are able to identify the debris and identify where it came from. This should be a no-brainer.

  • @sampletaster5093
    @sampletaster5093 Před 6 dny +84

    Too bad we need a law passed for the government agencies to do the right thing.

    • @AthosRac
      @AthosRac Před 6 dny +3

      It is actually a good thing. They can only spend TAX money authorized by law. They cant do whatever they want.

    • @janerockstar
      @janerockstar Před 6 dny +1

      good luck

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny +7

      Even if the law exists(and it does) what's to stop the government from deciding it's in their best interest to not do the right thing.... Plenty of evidence in history of the government deciding ehh... No I won't do that thing I promised

    • @janerockstar
      @janerockstar Před 6 dny +4

      @@jaykoerner when does the government do the right thing? What happened to safe and effective, my friends are dead and dying from disease.

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny

      @@janerockstar they never did.... I'm not sure where you got the delusion that the government was ever good, they are simply better than the alternative

  • @matthewwalker9256
    @matthewwalker9256 Před 6 dny +12

    If I threw a piece of garbage out of my car and somebody got into a wreck because of that I would be held liable so why should it be different for NASA?

  • @longwayaround7767
    @longwayaround7767 Před 6 dny +16

    Question from an old retired litigation paralegal: If an airline crashes and debris hits a house, who is responsible? Is there an altitude limit that applies to aircraft but not space junk? Really enjoy your channel Steve.

    • @heroslippy6666
      @heroslippy6666 Před 6 dny

      The International Space Station is technically within Earth's atmosphere. (It's just really really thin up there).

    • @justliberty4072
      @justliberty4072 Před 6 dny +2

      And if I threw a concrete block into my neighbors house, I'd be responsible for the cost to fix things. Why should it matter if I threw it into low orbit and it went around the earth a few times before hitting their house?

    • @Joe333Smith
      @Joe333Smith Před 5 dny

      I think the difference is NASA holds sovereign immunity

    • @longwayaround7767
      @longwayaround7767 Před 5 dny +1

      @@heroslippy6666 Yes, absolutely. I'm older than Steve Lehto and remember when the whole thing started and was put into orbit then basically abandoned. Now with the multitude of lower altitude satellites Musk/SpaceX has launched, I have no doubt they will be falling out of orbit sooner. But none of answers the question of who is liable if an aircraft crashes and debris hits a home. Is it an altitude limit? Peace out.

    • @longwayaround7767
      @longwayaround7767 Před 5 dny +1

      @@justliberty4072 I'm not sure it's a what does it matter issue. Legally is it an altitude difference? Why are airlines liable but not the Space Station or other satellites in lower altitudes like the multitude Musk has put up. They will come down. Does Musk/SpaceX have the same immunity as NASA is getting with the Space Station debris because he has government contracts? If you research how darn much is orbiting the earth the sheer number is mind boggling. Peace out.

  • @kennethwilson4316
    @kennethwilson4316 Před 6 dny +11

    If the home owner wants the damage to be repaired ... ask a foreign nation to help you out. Make sure it gets publicized

  • @TR-zx1lc
    @TR-zx1lc Před 6 dny +32

    This is especially egregious because when de-orbiting, there is usually great care taken to ensure that stuff burns up over the oceans. You know, it's Earth, so that's actually pretty hard to miss that bad.

    • @meak13
      @meak13 Před 6 dny

      That doesn't mean it will burn up 100%... proof is evident with meteorites and asteroids.

    • @michaelmagill189
      @michaelmagill189 Před 6 dny

      Once an unpowered piece of debris is ejected from an object in orbit not even the great Cray supercomputer can predict where it will come down more precisely than a 500 x 15000 mile box. Spacecraft are not unpowered. This is why Starliner is stuck up there now. They can't control it.

    • @robert20770
      @robert20770 Před 6 dny +6

      The battery pack had an uncontrolled reentry. For larger satellites that are expected to have parts survive reentry they do a controlled reentry.

    • @tomk4484
      @tomk4484 Před 6 dny +3

      NASA air-balled a wide open layup.

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN Před 6 dny +3

      ​@@robert20770I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that Congress did not give them the funding they needed to de-orbit smaller parts like this

  • @wbharris1031
    @wbharris1031 Před 5 dny +3

    Imagine a bunch of astronauts throwing batteries at your family.

  • @rational-being
    @rational-being Před 5 dny +5

    If the government causes private damage, but refuses to pay for it, doesn't that amount to a 5th amendment taking?

  • @NighDarke
    @NighDarke Před 5 dny +7

    Sell the space junk that hit their house. There are always rich collectors who'll buy anything.

    • @sarahwallace1103
      @sarahwallace1103 Před 3 dny +1

      unfortunately, not how that works. Oversaturated market, plus it is basically indistinguishable from crap you can go pull from your local junkyard. The Beanie Baby problem.

    • @John.McAfees.Dead.Mans.Switch
      @John.McAfees.Dead.Mans.Switch Před 10 hodinami

      Maybe not a pallet of space turds.

  • @DisfrutaElSalvador
    @DisfrutaElSalvador Před 6 dny +4

    Governments should always pay for the damages they were involved with ❤

  • @righteousbyfaithinChrist
    @righteousbyfaithinChrist Před 6 dny +44

    Depending on what countrys space junk... You put it up there, you allowed it to come down... Wherever it hit and damaged, you owe reparation...

    • @davidh9638
      @davidh9638 Před 6 dny +2

      "NASA has since confirmed the debris came from a 2.9-ton pallet of used batteries jettisoned from the International Space Station in March of 2021; the structure was expected to burn up completely in Earth's atmosphere. "

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor Před 6 dny

      @@davidh9638 Orbital trajectories are complicated, but very predictable.
      There is no reason whatsoever that you couldn't aim Space Garbage at the middle of the ocean.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 6 dny

      So we’re blaming the government because gravity?

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 6 dny +1

      @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor sure is, it’s called Cost and feasibility.

    • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor
      @the_inquisitive_inquisitor Před 6 dny +1

      @@Matt-yg8ub "the ocean" is roughly 70% of the Earth's surface, so I'm not buying that. Statistically, you should hit it most of the time even if you aren't aiming.

  • @MrFixItGa
    @MrFixItGa Před 6 dny +6

    I would love to hear Steve's take on the Constitution protecting our right to sue the government as a "redress of grievances". In other words, we don't need their individual "permission" for each and every kind of instance because the Constitution already specifically states we have that right.

  • @dp.2766
    @dp.2766 Před 6 dny +30

    I remember when the shuttle went down over East Texas. I was home with a bad case of flu and heard the huge Boom and felt it shake the house. There were pieces of debris everywhere and the press, lookie loos and federal authorities descended on the region looking for stuff leaving gates open letting cattle out, and generally being a menace to civilization but I don’t recall anything hitting anyone’s house.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Před 6 dny

      Nasa also refused to admit they damaged shuttle Columbia.
      I remember spotting the damage during ascent on the live cam they had mounted to one of SRBs.

    • @Trek001
      @Trek001 Před 6 dny +1

      I believe that some parts hit buildings including at least one house

  • @davidgates1122
    @davidgates1122 Před 6 dny +4

    I think there may be a precedent here. There have been several cases where the military has unintentionally dropped bombs on citizen's property, resulting in damage. In most, if not all of those cases, the government paid for the damages.

  • @kirkmorrison6131
    @kirkmorrison6131 Před 6 dny +22

    It is absolutely egregious if they don't pay him

  • @deans2790
    @deans2790 Před 6 dny +12

    In the old TV show, "Dead Like Me", the star gets killed when she is hit by the SkyLab toilet. LOL.

    • @KiwiCatherineJemma
      @KiwiCatherineJemma Před 6 dny

      "Dead Like Me"... I loved that show. I know there was a full length first season and a second season (maybe slightly shorter ?) and then a one off film length episode later, I think. I think it could have gone on longer. Dead-Like-Me was a nicer version of, an earlier series "Good-vs-Evil". (That also had just 2 seasons, season 2 being re-named as "GvsE").

    • @GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou
      @GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou Před 5 dny +2

      It was a toilet seat from Mir, not that the difference is particularly relevant, but the show is only a couple of decades old.

    • @deans2790
      @deans2790 Před 5 dny +1

      @@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou I stand corrected. Thanks.

  • @nwolinsP
    @nwolinsP Před 6 dny +4

    If they send it up, they need to take responsible.

  • @jonathancrosby1583
    @jonathancrosby1583 Před 6 dny +11

    Couldnt they sue as a takings clause ?the government deprived them of thier property

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Před 6 dny +2

      Most of the suit is pain and suffering but yeah for the few thousand yes under the new ruling damages under the taking clause

    • @gasad01374
      @gasad01374 Před 6 dny

      they didnt deprive them of anything whatsoever, and they did not take anything either.

  • @deelong9883
    @deelong9883 Před 5 dny +1

    Not being able to sue the government due to government sovereignty sounds a lot like "the king can do no wrong'.

  • @saddestchord7622
    @saddestchord7622 Před 6 dny +5

    Pay these people. They probably pay at least that much for a toilet seat. You jettison something from a space station, you should pay if it lands on something.

  • @peoplez129
    @peoplez129 Před 6 dny +16

    The constitution already covers this. Government can't deprive people of property, and must compensate when they do.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 6 dny

      I guarantee you, the constitution does not guarantee that you have to be compensated by your insurance company when a piece of junk falls out of orbit

    • @peoplez129
      @peoplez129 Před 6 dny +1

      @@Matt-yg8ub It does however guarantee that the government must compensate you for loss of and damage to property.

    • @NDcompetitiveshooter
      @NDcompetitiveshooter Před 6 dny

      You are correct. It seems even the lawyers have forgotten. Recently, a woman whose home was destroyed by law enforcement sued the city under 5th amendment takings clause and won. It is the one thing that can pierce the sovereign immunity doctrine without any laws being passed.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 5 dny

      @@peoplez129 you understand the concept of force majeure?
      The government is not responsible for shit that falls from the heavens

    • @peoplez129
      @peoplez129 Před 5 dny +1

      @@Matt-yg8ub It is when they made it. Force majeure is an insurance term, not a civil term. If a tree from my property falls on my neighbors house, I have to pay for it. Force majeure isn't going to get me off the hook.

  • @michaellowe3665
    @michaellowe3665 Před 4 dny +1

    I would like to buy their home. I know my family will be safe there because the odds of another piece of space junk hitting the same home are astronomical.

  • @paulanderson9650
    @paulanderson9650 Před 6 dny +7

    This is one of the few irrational fears I have Steve; aircraft flying above me and space junk. This is not putting my mind at ease, and if anything, it also reminded me of my rational fear of the justice system.

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny +2

      If it makes you feel any better none of what you fear has to be man-made.... There's records of at least one person being killed by a direct meteorite, and if an asteroid hits us you'll have plenty of friends to go with you

    • @MeRia035
      @MeRia035 Před 6 dny +1

      It's not completely irrational. Earth has been hit by meteors in the past & we pass thru large meteor streams twice a year. Next one is in October or November I believe.

    • @paulanderson9650
      @paulanderson9650 Před 6 dny +1

      Also scared of meteorites, but i feel as though since theyve been up there for god knows how long, and we have only left terra firma for the past 120 years, that I would have that much less of an influence on that type of stuff zipping around in the depths of space. Humans didn't put that stuff up there, its always and will always be up there. Humans or not.

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny

      @@paulanderson9650 we can't destroy the entire planet... The stuff that was already in space can

  • @bobbybarnes408
    @bobbybarnes408 Před 6 dny +4

    Ben hiding on top of the book over the New York license plate, Steve's left shoulder, top shelf.

  • @diablominero
    @diablominero Před 6 dny +4

    If there was an earthquake in a city that's never had earthquakes before, and it caused the piano to slide through a large window, I imagine that could create a falling piano without negligence.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před 6 dny

      well, you should still prevent people from walking under lifted loads (or whatever the term in english is), for example by barricading off the ground below.

    • @diablominero
      @diablominero Před 6 dny

      @@unitrader403 are you saying everyone who has a heavy appliance in an apartment needs to barricade the ground around all their windows?

  • @mrcryptozoic817
    @mrcryptozoic817 Před 6 dny +7

    We're going to see a lot of this over the next 30ish years and beyond.
    The trouble is identifying which country or agency is responsible.
    If a 100 pound piece of burned up metal detritus goes through my windshield in Nevada and injures/kills my passenger, who do I sue? There's so much in orbit, it could belong to any country.

    • @rogerszmodis
      @rogerszmodis Před 6 dny +1

      You could set up a dart board on one end of a football field and throw darts at it from the other end and be more likely to get a bullseye than a piece of space debris hitting a structure. This is the most man bites dog story possible.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 Před 6 dny

      something thats 100 pounds would be large enough to be tracked

    • @mrcryptozoic817
      @mrcryptozoic817 Před 6 dny

      @@smalltime0 Certainly, but my point is "Who's?".

    • @richarddombrowski5199
      @richarddombrowski5199 Před 6 dny

      Next spam phone call will be to sell you space junk damage insurance !

  • @rogerszmodis
    @rogerszmodis Před 6 dny +15

    Sell it at auction that has to be worth a lot of money to collectors.

  • @frozencanary4522
    @frozencanary4522 Před 6 dny +9

    Ben's still over Steve's left shoulder over NY plate LAW4NYC

  • @steveladner4346
    @steveladner4346 Před 6 dny +24

    Everyone is held accountable except government.

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny +1

      Kind of the same situation as children having trouble making their parents do things, when someone has absolute power they also have the absolute power to ignore any promises

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 6 dny +4

      Ignorance of the law is a job asset, if you wear a badge.

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner Před 6 dny +3

      @@MonkeyJedi99 I thought that was knowing the law and not caring,
      And if you wear a fancy robe it's instead being able to reinterpret laws at will to f over as many people as possible

  • @Alan.Bishop
    @Alan.Bishop Před 6 dny +1

    Love that patriotic shirt.

  • @buensomeritano1755
    @buensomeritano1755 Před 3 dny

    Then they need to Sue the bar and drop criminal complaints against the bar agent acting as judge for willful blindness and obstruction of justice and unlawful conversion of government office into an instrument of crime.

  • @jcavenagh
    @jcavenagh Před 6 dny +22

    The US gov't has used the person's house as a depository of its unwanted material. That is a taking of the property. The gov't must pay for such a taking. US Const 5th Amd..."nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." See also Arkansas Game & Fish Commission v. United States, 568 U.S. 23 (2012).

    • @baronvonslambert
      @baronvonslambert Před 6 dny +2

      Man I bet your back feels good after that stretch.

    • @seanmorris440
      @seanmorris440 Před 6 dny +4

      @@baronvonslambert This is a pretty clear-cut case of illegal dumping.

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 Před 6 dny +1

      @@baronvonslambert I really don't think it's a stretch. The government, through their own actions, deprived those people of a portion of their property's value by damaging it. Is that not a taking? If the takings clause doesn't provide relief for those who've had their property confiscated or destroyed by their government, what is its purpose?

    • @HiddenWindshield
      @HiddenWindshield Před 6 dny

      @@oktayyildirim2911 Nope, not a taking. To be a taking, it would have to be deliberate, and if this were deliberate, it would _also_ be attempted murder. This would fall under negligence.

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 Před 6 dny +1

      @@HiddenWindshield Didn't the SCOTUS rule in the 19th century that inadvertent damage constitutes a taking? IIRC, the government did something that ended up flooding a farmer's land, and the court ruled that the farmer was due compensation under the takings clause.

  • @philopharynx7910
    @philopharynx7910 Před 6 dny +4

    The 18th floor piano might not be negligence... if it was malicious.

  • @additudeobx
    @additudeobx Před 5 dny +1

    I have a feeling that the homeowners repair costs would probably not exceed NASA's two-day costs for morning Coffee and Pastries.

  • @hojokono
    @hojokono Před 6 dny +20

    Sell the space junk, make the money to pay to fix it. Property abandonment from the space agency.

  • @UPLINKUSA
    @UPLINKUSA Před 6 dny +12

    I'm still arguing with PennDOT to replace my driver's side mirror from last winter.
    Good luck with a space junk claim.

  • @charlesf.5414
    @charlesf.5414 Před 6 dny +27

    They don’t pay to make repairs….the family gets to keep whatever hit their house

    • @barnabusdoyle4930
      @barnabusdoyle4930 Před 6 dny +3

      So if an F-35 crashes onto my house, I get to keep it if the government doesn’t pay for the repairs to my house? I’m ok with that trade off

    • @user-ug4lt3yr5w
      @user-ug4lt3yr5w Před 6 dny

      And do what they want with it, including selling it.

    • @nsnopper
      @nsnopper Před 6 dny +3

      If it can be proven that the item has flown in space, yes, there might be a market for it. I’d be in contact with The Space Store, an online merchant of space related stuff. Tiny fragments of heat shielding - and I mean TINY - from Apollo, the shuttles, etc. are available for sale.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Před 6 dny +1

      @@barnabusdoyle4930 What are you going to a pile of scrap metal and burned composite materials that is still classified and under ITAR?

    • @bobthecannibal1
      @bobthecannibal1 Před 6 dny

      ​@@obsidianjane4413 ITAR. Lel. Remember the botched retreat from Afghanistan? What about ITAR for all of those vehicles and weapons abandoned to the Taliban.
      The federal government's say as to its disposition ended the nanosecond they abandoned it in space.
      Same as the M4 carbines, Bradley fighting vehicles, M1 Abrams tanks, HMMWVs, M2A1 .50 caliber machine guns, thermal sights, night vision goggles, sets of body armor, and aircraft the Taliban picked up in thewillful and intentional *rout* of this administration's making.

  • @thereisbeautyinthisworld7251

    I do not recall when, but I remember a while back, watching some fellow talking about how unlikely it was that people or their homes would get hurt or damaged by falling space debris. He followed up by saying, "These things happen."

  • @bearsden28
    @bearsden28 Před 2 dny

    Steve Lehto, the learning channel :) Thank you.

  • @THEDON3400
    @THEDON3400 Před 6 dny +22

    they can spend millions of dollars on a toilet but not $50,000 or so to repair someone's house

    • @darkwinter7395
      @darkwinter7395 Před 6 dny +7

      Yeah, they should probably settle. However -
      Have *you* ever tried making a toilet that works WITHOUT GRAVITY?!?!? I mean... yuck! Talk about floaters..... 🤢

    • @adam37886
      @adam37886 Před 6 dny +2

      ​@@darkwinter7395literally 😂

    • @Slightlysalty1
      @Slightlysalty1 Před 5 dny

      They are suing for the emotional trauma. I read insurance paid for the damages. NASA should absolutely pay for physical damages though.

  • @FakeSchrodingersCat
    @FakeSchrodingersCat Před 6 dny +4

    A scenario where a falling piano wouldn't be negligence? If it was intentionally dropped on him? I mean that would be attempted murder not negligence.

  • @rockyhighwayroad7365
    @rockyhighwayroad7365 Před 6 dny +1

    Fire Bill Nelson

  • @guidichris
    @guidichris Před 5 dny

    Once again we will take care of any other nation but ours.

  • @georgedeedsnotwords2162
    @georgedeedsnotwords2162 Před 6 dny +7

    Two sets of rules ! Two different punishments depending on who you are . If your not stupid how much more proof will it take to make you .000001% smarter than a rock .?

    • @kellybrandon1179
      @kellybrandon1179 Před 6 dny +1

      I found while studying rocks. They're smart, the coincide with a I. irocks on the sidewalk are public domain.

    • @jimdavis1566
      @jimdavis1566 Před 6 dny +1

      ​@@kellybrandon1179huh?

    • @kellybrandon1179
      @kellybrandon1179 Před 5 dny +1

      ​@jimdavis1566 they are like relay sensors to open m shut electric avenues. Utah cops asked if I was an expert in rocks in 2019. That's the year ford canyon mountain scape changed, in centerville utah. Rocks carry energy. Lava rocks get smarter with age. A quarter size quarts rock will hold data. I'm not expert but been on to it since 2018 spring. Utahs subterranean is 7 years old in November. The less one knows about mountain engineering the better off one is...

    • @georgedeedsnotwords2162
      @georgedeedsnotwords2162 Před 5 dny +1

      @@kellybrandon1179 how did you interpret this intelligence ? How long was the interview ? Now was this first hand conversation or hear say ? And at what point in your life did you start talking to rocks and they start answering you back ? What was there IQ score ?

    • @kellybrandon1179
      @kellybrandon1179 Před 5 dny +1

      @@georgedeedsnotwords2162 George, a I has not I q. It's simply hear say. Communication with rocks come from watch command, radio frequency identification, RFID and wifi. Other items that coincide with RFID and wifi are glass and aluminum.

  • @maurer3d
    @maurer3d Před 6 dny +3

    Wouldn't this be an insurance matter? Then the insurance company tries to sue to collect?

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před 6 dny

      pretty sure its on pretty much every insurance policy, because its a basically free item for the company to add to the coverage list.. (its extremely unlikely to happen, and in lots of cases you can recover the money from the country of origin.

  • @rickblanchette
    @rickblanchette Před 4 dny

    Your example of the piano fits in with my training via cartoons being " when in the big city keep aware and looking up because you never know when a piano or anvil is coming down at you "

  • @samgentile7494
    @samgentile7494 Před 5 dny

    The US Supreme Court just recently ruled "Government agencies cannot issue fines and monetary penalties WITHOUT allowing and granting the defendant the Right to a Trial by Jury to decide if or how much the damages should be IF the defendant is found guilty by a Jury of their peers.

  • @My-Pal-Hal
    @My-Pal-Hal Před 6 dny +4

    Well, see that's what happens when you don't get all of a Quote.
    Jack Horkheimer always said "Keep Looking Up".
    But because of times constraints of his segments.
    They never got the "AND, Always Wear A Helmet" part in his show 😂
    ... rest in peace my friend 😇✨😇
    Was Skylab technically just a Mobile Home 🤔
    Ahh, questions of universe we may never know 😏

  • @rayfunk5659
    @rayfunk5659 Před 6 dny +4

    This recently happened in rural Saskatchewan. Bits of a SpaceX rocket landed in the fields. SpaceX personnel showed up to collect their debris. A sum of money was offered as compensation, otherwise SpaceX was very tight lipped. No lasting damage and we had an interesting local story on the news.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 Před 6 dny

      not sure how it could get there.. this is *very* far away from any reasonable launch corridor...

    • @HiddenWindshield
      @HiddenWindshield Před 6 dny

      @@unitrader403 Spacecraft tend to go all the way around the world...

  • @spacecowboy9787
    @spacecowboy9787 Před 6 dny

    Thanks for the story, Phteven

  • @mcfishyfirst253
    @mcfishyfirst253 Před 17 hodinami

    Sue whoever left it up there

  • @chiefschillaxn1781
    @chiefschillaxn1781 Před 5 dny +7

    Technically its junk. That should be illegal dumping charges.

  • @Mavon2
    @Mavon2 Před 6 dny +4

    Someone call Wall-E

  • @tlhIngan
    @tlhIngan Před 6 dny +2

    NASA does have authority to compensate - up to around $40,000 or so. The problem is the damage is closer to $85,000 or so, and NASA needs to go to Congress to approve such a thing. Thus the problem - NASA wants to compensate but they're hamstrung in that they can't pay all of it without going up the chain. Likely they tried to do that but the family obviously doesn't want to be partially compensated for their loss. And its likely its stuck in Congress waiting for approval which will take decades to come.

  • @DeGuerre
    @DeGuerre Před 5 dny

    When I was a kid in Australia, our parents sent us outside to look for Skylab. Every parent thought of doing this, no matter where in Australia they were.
    But if you're ever crossing the Nullabor Plain, make sure you drop in to the Balladonia Roadhouse. It has a microwave dish on the roof, and the structure that holds it in place is partly made from a piece of burned metal with the word "Skylab" on it. Legend has it that Jimmy Carter called the roadhouse to apologise for the debris.

  • @michaelmagill189
    @michaelmagill189 Před 6 dny +3

    Won't homeowners insurance cover that. Or do those slimy ( excrement from a popular sport fish ) claim that as an act of God

    • @scotpens
      @scotpens Před 6 dny

      "Excrement from a popular sport fish"??

  • @jeffmassey4860
    @jeffmassey4860 Před 6 dny +3

    The NAME is clue:
    INTERNATIONAL Space Station.
    Who-ever made it,pays it.

    • @ordinaryman1904
      @ordinaryman1904 Před 6 dny +1

      Ok.
      Who made the battery?
      Who did they make it for?
      What rocket lifted it to orbit?
      What system did it power?
      Which country’s astronauts used that system?
      What module of the ISS was that system in?
      Who made that module?
      Which country’s astronauts used that module?
      Who decided to let toxic batteries fall to earth?
      What agency does that person work for?
      Which astronaut bundled those batteries together?
      What country was that astronaut from?
      Which astronaut pushed the eject button?
      Where is that astronaut from?
      How much blame is there to go around?
      Who should be made to pay?

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb Před 6 dny

      @@ordinaryman1904 split the cost across all agencies by percentage of astronauts they sent up in the last 5 years

  • @monk43012
    @monk43012 Před 5 dny

    I remember a guy that got a "bounty reward" for bringing a piece of Skylab that he found in Australia to NASA.

  • @tyrport
    @tyrport Před 5 dny +1

    There was a tv series based on Skylab The afterlife of a woman who got hit by a Skylab toilet seat.

  • @georgepaust8416
    @georgepaust8416 Před 6 dny +9

    They HOPED it would burn up upon re-entry. Well, hope doesn't cut it. You're NASA for Christ's sake! You are supposed to KNOW!!! Hoping is completely and unequivocally irresponsible!!!

    • @Dr.Claw_M.A.D.
      @Dr.Claw_M.A.D. Před 6 dny

      You forget your anniversary? You accidentally slept with her sister?
      You launched a tray of batteries off the international space station?
      When opps doesn't cover it there's BastardCard.

    • @gaoxiaen1
      @gaoxiaen1 Před 6 dny

      They're willing to take the chance... with someone else's life and property.

  • @chrstfer2452
    @chrstfer2452 Před 6 dny +16

    So absurd he renamed twitter, ill never understand that

    • @Swoots275
      @Swoots275 Před 6 dny +1

      He's had this obsession since early adulthood. I read that he tried to rename Paypal to X in his 20s but investors didn't let him

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen Před 6 dny +5

      He doesn't think like a normal person. He thinks like someone who's always gotten everything he wanted so he's gotten used to wanting crazier and crazier stuff, and here we are.

    • @mikepalmer2219
      @mikepalmer2219 Před 6 dny

      That’s an odd thing to be mad about lol. I a, more concerned with him wanting to microchip brains.

    • @michaelgarrison688
      @michaelgarrison688 Před 6 dny

      X Corp was created to develop an app that would rival and encompass Twitter, Facebook, CZcams, Yelp, Zoom, VOIP, MMS, and other social media apps and internet communication.

    • @joshroolf1966
      @joshroolf1966 Před 6 dny +2

      When psychologically unstable individuals develop high volume and frequency relationships with psychedelic drugs, the ego often 'ascends' to infinity and the resulting megalomania leads to absurd choices; like reinventing All the wheels, because everyone did it wrong prior to Them.

  • @someoneelse2254
    @someoneelse2254 Před 6 dny +1

    The saddest part is that the government would rather spend money on lawyers than to spend the same money making the family whole.

  • @roccov3614
    @roccov3614 Před 5 dny

    The issue is that if they assumed that it would burn up on re-entry and it didn't, that means their assumptions were wrong. They need to investigate into why they were wrong and avoid making the same mistake in the future. Holding them accountable is a sure fire way to ensure they investigate

  • @alansewell7810
    @alansewell7810 Před 6 dny +6

    If it had hit anyone, would it have been assault and BATTERY?

    • @vanrick772
      @vanrick772 Před 6 dny +1

      Aggravated battery with a battery.

  • @karenharris3183
    @karenharris3183 Před 6 dny +9

    space trash hits a house and they space project caused it and are you saying they are refuse compensation to the home owner. That is so unfair of Americans.

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN Před 6 dny +1

      To be clear, no one has said NASA is refusing anything.

    • @karenharris3183
      @karenharris3183 Před 6 dny

      @@falxonPSN then the family home will get repaired . End discussion

    • @ronbennett7885
      @ronbennett7885 Před 6 dny

      @@falxonPSN NASA hasn't paid yet. The family had to hire an attorney. That wouldn't have been necessary if NASA did the right thing to begin with. The space junk problem is getting worse so these incidents will become more common. Imagine an airliner getting hit. Seems improbable, but could see it happening. Reality is often stranger than fiction. They need to reduce the amount of junk they allow to fall randomly versus controlled entry to a distant, uninhabited area.

  • @brianschumaker5912
    @brianschumaker5912 Před 5 dny

    If it fell on the house of a senator, Or one of the senators family members, Do you really think that we the people wouldn't pay for it?

  • @mh0862
    @mh0862 Před 6 dny +1

    DEVO "Space Junk" And now my Sally's dead.

  • @bradley-eblesisor
    @bradley-eblesisor Před 6 dny +32

    It boggles my mind that I can't burn a brush pile of yard waste, yet we're not worried about all the space debris we create burning up in our upper atmosphere.

    • @rogerszmodis
      @rogerszmodis Před 6 dny +3

      Do you suggest we just keep it up there?

    • @lordgarth1
      @lordgarth1 Před 6 dny +5

      It’s not being ignored you are just following social media for your news.

    • @678rwhp
      @678rwhp Před 6 dny +6

      Of course it boggles your mind. Bless your heart.

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen Před 6 dny +4

      There's far fewer people on space stations than there are people wanting to burn their yard waste.

    • @M1903a4
      @M1903a4 Před 6 dny +4

      Most rules against burning are to try and protect against brush/forest fires.

  • @donaldjohnson-ow3kq
    @donaldjohnson-ow3kq Před 6 dny +3

    Never been more obvious that they think less of the citizens than others.

  • @dr.barrycohn5461
    @dr.barrycohn5461 Před 5 dny

    Space junk? One man's junk is another man's space treasure!

  • @noworriesmate5903
    @noworriesmate5903 Před 6 dny

    Many countries have been at the space station. How do we know who push it out?

  • @troyallen8223
    @troyallen8223 Před 6 dny +8

    We are looking pretty stupid for this action.

    • @mikepalmer2219
      @mikepalmer2219 Před 6 dny +1

      Just this one? Lmao.

    • @troyallen8223
      @troyallen8223 Před 6 dny +1

      @@mikepalmer2219 Of course not... Just not deviating from the topic at hand. Living in the moment so to speak without meandering.

  • @BromellFilmCorp
    @BromellFilmCorp Před 6 dny +3

    Can't expect NASA to pay for damage it causes. They never do and it's the classic American government agency not taking account for their actions is a classic.

  • @whtelephant1
    @whtelephant1 Před 6 dny +2

    It sounds like the old question, if a plane crashes on the border of the US and Canada where they bury the survivors?

  • @ozzymandius666
    @ozzymandius666 Před 6 dny

    Negligence and liability are two different things.
    If I'm dropping garbage down a chute into a dumpster, and a freak gust of wind carries a piece of debris off and smashes a window, I may be liable even if not negligent.

  • @kazi1
    @kazi1 Před 6 dny +3

    Damn

  • @randycarter2001
    @randycarter2001 Před 6 dny +1

    They were trying to save Skylab. But the delays in the shuttle program didn't allow any way to save or direct the orbit. All anybody could do was stand and watch. Then hope it fell someplace vacant.

  • @greggorr314
    @greggorr314 Před 6 dny +1

    "Sheriff Obie, I cannot tell a lie. I PUT those markings on the space station batteries that fell through those people's roof."

  • @calebfielding6352
    @calebfielding6352 Před 6 dny +5

    Government, "Yeah we did that. It cost you a lot of money. But even though we waste trillions we are not even going to allow you to bring your grienvence to court despite what the first and forth ammendment says."

  • @fixrite11
    @fixrite11 Před 6 dny +10

    So will they be charged a Carbon tax for the items entering our atmosphere and burning up causing pollution into the atmosphere?

    • @seanmorris440
      @seanmorris440 Před 6 dny +1

      Government can't be charged tax. It doesn't make sense.

    • @nuclearmedicineman6270
      @nuclearmedicineman6270 Před 6 dny +2

      It's not that kind of burning. They're mostly metals, you don't get carbon dioxide when metals burn, you get.. rust (iron), sand (silicon), and gemstones (aluminum). Yes, I know silicon is actually a metalloid, close enough.

  • @oldscuba
    @oldscuba Před 5 dny

    I identify my car as a space ship, I now can drive through your house and not have any responsibility.....

  • @jsl151850b
    @jsl151850b Před 6 dny

    *I had a SkyLab T-Shirt.*
    *Home Owner's Insurance should pay for the repairs. That company should go after NASA.*

  • @brucelytle1144
    @brucelytle1144 Před 6 dny +4

    Ben hasn't moved from the book over Steves right shoulder.

    • @speterj
      @speterj Před 6 dny +2

      You mean left shoulder

    • @brucelytle1144
      @brucelytle1144 Před 6 dny

      @@speterj my bad! I'm a left handed dyslexic!

  • @christopherconkright1317

    Typical America send money to other countries instead of helping their own.

    • @mikepalmer2219
      @mikepalmer2219 Před 6 dny

      Also invite millions of illegal immigrants over and give them stuff. I am not sure why anyone keeps thumping their chest and acting patriotic.

  • @lektwik
    @lektwik Před 6 dny

    When Skylab de-orbited, a radio station in California offered $10K to the first person to bring in a piece of it. A kid in Australia got ahold of a piece, got on a plane with his parents, and collected the $10K. True story.

  • @wireedm1
    @wireedm1 Před 4 dny

    This gives new meaning to space invaders.

  • @07wrxtr1
    @07wrxtr1 Před 6 dny +1

    Is space junk ever a listed peril in any insurance policy? 😀

  • @DarthSautiorn
    @DarthSautiorn Před 5 dny

    Remember when George Lass was unalived when a toulet seat from the Space Station came down from space/orbit and hit her?

  • @JoeSmith-cy9wj
    @JoeSmith-cy9wj Před 6 dny

    I'm sure in NASA'S 60 year + history there has been occasion for the to pay out a law suit or two, without permission from congress.

  • @samgentile7494
    @samgentile7494 Před 5 dny

    When our forefathers wrote the US Constitution and gave us a Right to a trial by jury when the value in question exceeds $25.00 they did NOT give our Government 'sovereign immunity'. Nor did they write in an exception saying the government cannot be sued. That (Sovereign immunity) is a old British Law concept and we had that Revolution because we did not want to live under British Law.

  • @peterp1158
    @peterp1158 Před 5 dny

    This argument (res ipsa loquitur) should be applied to many of Trump's appeals.