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Thank you for checking out the Stormgate Kickstarter campaign. We're Frost Giant Studios, and we love Real-Time Strategy games.
We're bringing the community together to support the creation of a Stormgate physical collector's edition box with a gorgeous mech statue. This support will also fund our ability to expand our beta testing program for Founders.
Take a look at our plans for Stormgate, and then please consider supporting! Thank you for watching.
Wishlist Stormgate on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/20... - Hry
Support this GAME! Even if its just a little bit, these guys deserve it and they can deliver!
Huh. Your Starcraft animations were very nice back a while ago, haven't seen you in a while though
A no-brainer for me. These people made my the games that I LOVED in my childhood and teen years :D
@@TheVoidIsCold well come back! we are still partying!
We gonna get Stormgate animations? :D
I feel like seeing you here is a good omen...
As a hard-core SC and SC2 fanboy with, give or take, 20 years of experience with those titles, I salute you. Thank you so, so much for keeping the genre alive. I've been supporting you. I will jump on the bandwagon as early as a game is available. God bless RTS!!!
Thank you for your support!!!
Warcraft 3 was better in every way than Starcraft. Not having hero units diluted the gameplay and strategic options.
@@tamie341nah, Warcraft 3 was way too slow and clunky. Starcraft 2 is superior as a strategy in every way. A combination of two sounds interesting though.
@@DarkSarumanagreed. Warcraft 3 was amazing for its time, but starcraft 2 changes the game for good. It was fantastic. Warcraft 3 is so old you can’t really compare the 2. I grew playing starcraft 1, and i loved that game so much.
WC3 and TFT were the games that got me into WC lore. Was hoping for a WC4 at Blizzcon, or some kind of SC announcement, but was sad it never happened. I've been missing a good RTS and this looks like it can/will hit that itch. Take your time boys. I'm willing to wait for quality.
Easiest pledge I’ve made. I can’t wait to see how this game develops
This is everything, you'll have the most dedicated and passionate fan base of Dad gamers across all genres.
This.
Dad gamers unite!! Lol
yea.. but no. This is warcraft 3.5 instead of its own thing.
Dad bods ASSEMBLE!
@@dawiepieterse9703 AND MY AXE!
You already got double your goal on Kickstarter after just 40 minutes... If that doesn't show excitement for a project I dunno what will. I love what you guys are doing.
They are at 4 times their goal now, and its still rising ^^
it was funded in 15 minutes, i'm not sure if i ever saw a kickstarer of this size get funded this fast
Cause their goal is pathetically low. They are lowballing so hard it should really be criminal. If they got what asked for, they would never be able to actually make what they promised. They are 100% reliant on going way beyond their goal *and* securing outside funding just to deliver.
Already half a million and for once I'm excited for a kickstarter!
@@datonkallandor8687 Can't say that we were funded in 15 mins otherwise, wink-wink
What I liked about SC2 is the style/feel - it was somewhat serious, meaning the things you do felt impactful both visually and mechanically.
Please gift us with the same secret formula in Stormgate, I think that's quite important!
Overall, keep refining what you do, because I truly believe that the direction of this game is awesome!
Right i dont like this cartoonie look
I feel like they could learn a thing or two from the Shadowrun games in this direction. The fantasy meets sci-fi aesthetics felt well blended and cohesive there. While I'm assuming a lot of the art is temporary here, the overall art direction has things feeling derivative and clashing. I mean, I know the artists work hard and none of this is easy... but in context the hero with the hammer is feeling very "We've got Reinhardt at home". Might be something that the audience will get used to, but right now it's something that I have to actively look past. Keep working on the core game design as it's still early days ofc, but I hope to see changes when gameplay is more finalized.
You need to remember at the time SC2 was released, Blizzard was a ginormous company. Frost Giants has nowhere near that numbers of developers on the game.
if anything this trailer looks too much like a strait sc2 remake, I hope they have some of their own ideas too.
SC2 still better than this cartoon shit )
I really like the direct communication you guys are doing. I've been following this game for a while now so I am incredibly excited to see where this is going. Keep it up!
This may be the game that save the RTS genre for good
I heard these kind of thing so many times, on so many games, hilarious.
RTS is doing well
The best RTS ever:
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Why now KS?🙄
This game will fail and fade into obscurity months after launch. Zerospace is the game that will revive the genre.
I backed via the signed collector's edition! WOOOoooo! Wish I had more money so I could back with the $5k option! I'm so grateful for the Stormgate team!!! Thank you for not giving up on the RTS community! We won't let you down! "I am the fire start-ah"
What was the 5k option ?
one of the most worthy projects in all of gaming today. RTS is not a big money maker but the fanbase sticks around for years upon years. These guys are doing it for the fans of the genre.
Starcraft 2 is one of the most important games in my life. And now Stormgate is one of the most anticipated games of my life. Absolutely love your work guys and i'll be there day 1 playing Stormgate. May RTS never die!
Are we sure its more like Starcraft than Warcraft? Because that is the wrong path to take imo. I played both series and WC was just a much better game series in every way
Cool story hater
Starcraft was the first game I ever played back in 2009. Forever changed my life. You have my support all the way.
if SC2 can't defend RTS then i don't see how any game could ...
@@schlechtgut8349 I feel it’s mainly because it’s over 12 years old at this point. No more content or updates, still good just not as focused on by devs or CZcamsrs anymore
AOE 2 and Broodwar are more alive than SC2, very clear by the amount of top pros@@schlechtgut8349
@@schlechtgut8349well its cant now because everyone on the team left. Sc2 was a masterpiece, and is still the best rts game of there at the moment.
@@schlechtgut8349most people on the sc2 team are here on frost giant, so keep your hopes up bud.
Thank you for reviving the RTS genre! From a longtime player and fan, that felt we were forgotten by the industry. I salute you
the Frozen Throne campaign is literally my favourite campaign in the RTS genre! Lots of talented people working on this game. Makes me very excited :D
FOCKIN arthas sitting on that throne, what a traitorous prick
I don't even play these type of games (if I remember correctly, my first and last RTS was Dawn of War 2), but I can feel the passion these guys radiate. Best wishes to the project and everybody involved
Wow, Paladin is a Paladin, Blademaster and a giant Ursadon.
The second i saw the guy leap over trees and bladestorm a group of units, I knew this was going to be an amazing game.
BladeMaster for the win!!! I LOVE the hero mechanic from Wc3. I see that they are kind of going back to that a little. I can't wait!!!
*Hammerstorm
I love how you guys are putting so much effort on the modding scene right out of the gate!
I am so happy for this. RTS is one of my favorite genre. I'm so glad you have included a campaign and co op missions.
Just backed $350. See you all in the beta!
I currently follow the WC3 and SC2 competitive scene, and I am so excited to add another game to that list! I'm terrible at RTS games but I do love watching great gameplay.
I played Starcraft 2 for years and I just love relaxing and doing the campaign or playing a co-op. Most players don't play competitive.
Is this more like WC3 or SC2? WC3 was the superior game in every way.
They got heroes boyyzzzzz!!! Fuck yeah lets go, we need that WC3 vibe back
@@tamie341Feels like 99% Starcraft to me. Unfortunately...
totally subjective topic. I'd be really glad if it looks more starcrafty than warcrafty, tbh@@staysharp2453
But if we get a product that offers options in both directions, most players will be happier
Oh so fantastic to see all these people I admire for making my favorite RTS games ever, together working on Stormgate!
This all sounds great!
For the campaign, one feature that I would like to see the return of is how in StarCraft 2, you could do missions where depending on the choices you made that would open up certain unit upgrades. That was just so freaking good way implementation of "story and consequence" in a RTS game. I would love to see a return of that feature in stormgate!
Really looking forward to a really solid RTS, been a while!
People haven't heard of Age of empires 4? But yes this will be good
@haakonglindtvad5489 AoE4 is very good, yeah, it just lacks a bit of staying power imo. I reckon its down to not really having "hero" type units like WC3, which offers a more personalised feeling to your build orders, but tis just my opinion.
@@rdctd8690AoE4 didn't capture mainstream audience because it's just another competitive RTS with nothing new to show for. Stormgate is making the genre more approachable by introducing new game modes, coop play and other spicy stuff that keeps the average timmy with room temperature IQ and 60 APM interested because he'll be able to roflstomp AI and play with and against his friends.
I fell in love with rts from starcraft 64, now those same vibes are showing up for this game. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for fightin the good fight.
Words can't describe how much I've missed the old SC2 days.
Can't wait, keep up the great work guys!
The Blizzard we all want back.....
That one looks so beautiful...
I hope the story is very motivating for player to get invested in gameplay.
I fell in love with this game because of the calmness and warmth in Tim Campbell's voice! 10/10 would play!
i'm ridiculously excited for this because of 1 thing. they started with building a solid map editor! if this is true i'm looking forward to some massive innovation. i remember when in wc3 tft custom games really took off. i mean LITERALLY multiple genres spawned from custom games in sc and wc tft polished them into absolute gems! i miss playing impossible bosses and other awesome customs!
9:56 I got a little tear in my eye. What a great pitch! I can’t wait to see what comes of this.
StarCraft 2 is my favorite game ever. I have at least 20,000 hours in it. I have met friends of over 10 years that I still talk with every day from StarCraft 2. I know there are a bunch of people like me who cannot wait for this game. Other RTS just don’t do it for me, but I know this one will.
You're the best! Really looking forward to the release, it's going to be the reborn of RTS!
Its like a studio watched and really understood @GiantGrantGames and took all his ideas on what will make the next great rts and is doing it 😮😮😮
They pretty much already hit the kickstarter goal lol
Hit it in 15mins wtf
The game is looking better than I expected! Really nice work so far!
7:15 MOM I AM ON THE INTERNET AND I LOVE IT! Stormgate is shaping up to be AMAZING!
😂 thanks for being part of the alpha and beta!
OLG THIS IS THE MOST HYPED IBE BEEN BY FAAAR!!!
THE MAURADERS LOOKED AMAZING, INFERNAL UNITS ARE GIVING ME SUCHHHH A WARCRAFT VIBE IN THE BEST OF WAYS, GAMEPLAY IS LOOKING CRISP, CINEMATIC CAMERA GAVE ME SUCH A NOSTALGIA HIT AND MY GO OH MY GOD DO I WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT THIRD FACTION IS
Although I'm more of an Age of Empires enjoyer, I hope the genre goes far so thank you for keeping it going ❤
Thank you so much for making this game and for everyone in the teams previous work on SC2 & Warcraft3 some of the best gaming years of my life with those games. Thank you so much for creating such amazing games. Stormgate genuinely looks like it’s gonna be the great game of all time!
Free to play and emphasizing customization is smart. I don't know for sure if RTS can become big again, but your approach is giving it the best chance to succeed. Seems like you all are really throwing the kitchen sink at this, and as an RTS fan, I definitely appreciate it. Best of luck to your team!
I'm so excited for Stormgate. After playing sc2 for the last 12 years I'm ready for something new!
The map and scenario editor is key to prolonging the life of the game. I watch Korean competitive SC:BW and what changes the meta and keeps the game active are the new maps!
this is so exciting im not even a big rts player but warcraft iii was one of the first games id ever played and the storytelling in its campaign is still one of my favorites after all these years. rlly rlly excited to see it
Warcraft III was the game that introduced me to RTS games. So at first I wasnt too into the campaign but as soon as I heard "I was the lead campaign designer on Warcraft III and TFT" I instantly got hooked
The editor and the game being the same is really quite cool! Keep the Blizzard RTS thing alive!
I really love that you guys are highlighting the social side of the game. Having it accessible to form and join groups is something that is missing dearly from gaming these days I find. It leads to all kinds of amazing things, including better new player experience and longevity and IMO is the core aspect to what made Warcraft 3 as successful as it was!
I feel like if this and ZeroSpace don't save the RTS scene next year, I don't think anything will!
Tempest Rising also?
also Immortals Gate
I didn't realise this was a thing! Thanks for the share! It's the year of RTS!!@@Appletank8
I rarely support games on Kickstarter, but with both this and ZeroSpace I supported on day one. After seeing this video, I am now so optimistic for the future of the RTS genre, you guys are doing amazing work. I am so excited to be able to see what else you guys are working on, and even more excited to be able to get my hands on it.
This looks like everything I've ever wanted from RTS games growing up, and the fact that you guys have such a big focus on coop, campaign and custom maps/mods etc, is just amazing. It's something so close to my heart (WC3 custom maps got me into software and game development in the first place!). Keep up the great work!
How quick you managed to reach and surpase your Kickstarter goal is a testament to how much people in the community like you guys. Gratz to you for that. Keep innovating everything from the visuals to the mechanics, you guys are going to make something great, we have your backs!
If you could revive and enhance WC3's custom map scene as it was at its peak this will be my game of the decade. Goodluck FGS!
I discovered SC1 and 2 only recently so for me, I couldn't be happier to be joining the new era of what looks to be the best, if not one of, current day RTS.
Nothing but respect and support for y'all! Good luck with everything guys!
Love how you are delivering a full game - multiplayer, co-op, campaign, custom games, replays, etc. etc.
Too many games these days are half complete. They say it's 'agile' or whatever, I call it half assed.
Absolutely pumped. Good to see all that crystal clear communication ! How gamedev should be done. Bravo !
Well done Frost Giant! Looks amazing
Engagement
I see the manager roaming the grounds at 0:17, I bet he's a really happy boy.
I'm so excited about this game! Salute and a massive W to the amazing team behind this project. I cannot begin to describe what RTS means to me and with people like these it makes me filled with joy to see that the response has been so received well! Goes to show how many people are feeling the same way. Bravo Frost Giant Games, Bravo!
Thanks for this. Good luck on the stages and goings-forward.
I wish all the best to this game, and I’ll definitely support it, hope even when you’ll succeed, you still would communicate with your player base just as well.
Starcraft and Warcraft were the first RTS I ever played and have loved them since. Backed the Kickstarter, I can't wait for this! ❤
At 0:10, there was this split second in which thought the theme of Baywatch would start playing.
4:53 - "At the end of the day all what we really want to do is have a mech punch a dragon."
This is everything.
Je sens vraiment que le jeu va devenir une pure masterclass dans la décennie. Dès que je choperais l'accès à la bêta, je pars ratio le ladder ! à +
When you have good people + good leading team making a game for the good reasons. There is no chance this game is bad. Can't wait to try all of this ! Let's goooo !!!
Thanks for the all work that you/team are putting inside this project.
I wish you bring us, good old days of RTS.
Not been as excited for a game for years. This sounds so good and promising. Looking foward to a bright rts future
Exactly. I can't even remember the last time I was actually excited for a game. Until Stormgate.
Stormgate Studios is the equivalent of the 1992 Olympic Dream Team for the RTS genre. It feels good knowing the developers actually care about the game they are making because they are just as big of fans of the genre that we are. Which makes sense, because some of them probably helped create the RTS genre.
People who think like this always set themselves up for disappointment. When you focus on "big names" you ignore the dozens or hundreds that propped those people up. There was another Gate...Hellgate London..It had the same story, I encourage you to look it up. I don't think this will fail, but the rock star names have proven pretty meaningless in gaming.
I do not per-order games but I am watching this with great interest. If they deliver I will be all in. Good luck Frost Giant. I want you to succeed so badly.
@Frost Giant Studios omg i missed you guys, i cant wait to play the campain and be immersed in a story created by you guys, starcraft 1-2, warcraft III , all dreamy game with amazing story and gameplay, when i heard blizzard decided to stop this, i was so sad, but you guys are our rts gods keeping it alive in our hearts, long live to you guys!!!! im gonna wish list this for sure!!!!
I love everything about this. I have faith in you guys!
Thank you for you making this game, I hope for its bright future.
Wow. I haven't followed it much until I saw this. This looks incredible. Awesome awesome people working on it! Keep up the awesome work!
First time supporting a Kickstarter. I truly hope you all succussed in delivering an amazing RTS game. Looking forward to hearing and seeing more about it. Hopefully playing it to :)
I've got pretty high expectations from this. I just hope they can deliver.
So excited for this game and studio!
Keep it up, guys!
Very nice to see this game's getting better and better with each dev iteration.
THIS is how you make a video and a game for the fans! Love it and can’t wait for this new RTS 😊
Very cool. Can't wait to try this
Holy shit, it's almost like if a company actually listened to what the playerbase likes!!
that's because the company is coming from the playerbase
Donated to kickstarter. Glad to help support the RTS genre, and more specifically the Frost Giant team.
I like how the different factions kinda feel like old KKND. Really hope this turns out well!!
Still a bit sad, that the setting is more starcraft than warcraft. But once you go kickstarter, i am there to support you! I'll always appreciate the great times you gave me with warcraft3 when i was still a teen. And hope that i can bring your cool stuff to my own kids once, their time comes 🎉
Not my kind of game, but I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully the success will lead to more people trying out RTS games.
So excited and will continue to support you guys. We need a new generation of RTS and you guys have just the team to do that ❤
you can really see the warcraft + starcraft influence on this game. i hope it's good!
Cool Frost Giant, It’s very cool so far, Great Work. However I feel the buildings could do with some visual improvements in their design/aesthetic. Can you make the buildings more interesting and cool? A lot of them, especially from the human faction look kind of uninteresting… One of the things that is great about Warcraft 2 and 3 and Starcraft is that the buildings are so iconic and have so much character, each one is distinctive and easily identifiable. Also, the terrain side of things in terms of adding more of the details such as ‘exotic plants’, environmental /visual effects such as Storms would really add a lot to the visuals (Lightening Storms and blizzards for example) and different colour mists/fog in some areas and ancient ruins of structures etc to make the terrain more visually pleasing and engaging, such attention to detail really enhances the immersive feeling of the game for both the player and the spectators, also the inclusion of interactive terrain which can be ‘blown up’ or somehow modified for realistic but just as importantly - tactical gameplay! Really looking forward to this Game, why not make it the best RTS yet, and outdo the others in EVERY way… as the expression goes: ‘The devil is in the details’. 💙
Tbh, I agree on making the buildings identifiable on sight but the other stuff is fluff that could increase the computer requirements. If they have settings that remove it then it's fine by me though.
You’re asking for too much, bud. Visual clarity is just as important as environmental effects and beauty.
The buildings I agree on, but the rest is going to blow up PC requirement specs and may not be easy to implement in a way that can be turned off for lower end computers.
At the end of the day though, it sounds like a lot of it is going to be in the hands of the community as well. The maps we’re seeing may be as vanilla as vanilla can be right now because it’s in development, I’m going to guess the sky will be the limit on release with the new editor.
@@5000Seabass I don't think there's as much tension here as you think there is. You can def make buildings look cool, distinct and unique without compromising performance. Likewise, having exotic creature/plant designs does not automatically correlate to reduced performance. It is possible to make things "pop" and have a distinct visual style while also maintaining high performance/low graphical requirements. Model designs, when done well, tend to be relatively cheap to render. The real gpu killers are things like special effects, shadows, and animations.
To put a finer point to it, having a cool looking tree does not meaningfully impact performance requirements. Having the grass rustle as units move through them can impact performance.
yeah the buildings truly feel a bit generic, if you ask me..
I agree, I think the visual development overall is very generic. Interesting doesn't have to mean complex. I feel like they took their concept art references from other existing game concept art instead of trying to find reference that would've made for a more original design language and even inspire more interesting story themes.
Here we go
As a seasoned gamer, I would like to offer you some advice. Firstly, do not let corpses automatically refresh and disappear. What you need is a feeling of corpses and blood sea, which can be referenced from Total War or Epic War simulators. Secondly, adding a building destruction system can be referenced from British companies and battlefields. It will definitely give people a more shocking sense of war! Fighting in the sea of blood, at the scene where corpses pile up like mountains!
I have to say, back in the 90s it was Blizzard and Westwood Studio that made me love videogames, First with C&C and WarCraft 2, then StarCraft, War3 and Frozen Throne, game that is still installed on my PC - the original Frozen Throne I mean, as I still own my physical copy from 2003. Because of that, the Stormgate project resonates in me, and I can feel the genuine passion in Tim's voice.
I'll support you guys. And I wish you the best for this ambitious project.
In description: "We are Frost Giant Studios, and we love Real-Time Strategy games."
Straight to the point, everything you need to know.
Just donated. Got a lot of years out of Starcraft. Hopefully this will live up to the old title. We need something at that level again.
veryyy cool. animations are coming along really nicely. it looks like its a bit more responsive as well. amazing stuff
I was afraid that the RTS genre was dead, but I'm relieved to see the huge enthusiasm around this game!
Really nice to see not everything is digital today and also physical goodies are produced!
I loved SC2 and I'd like to see what you guys have done to go beyond SC2 / wc3 experiences. It feels like "we're making everything sc2 has..." and I'm waiting for the "and more" part but im not quite getting that.
That's just my impression (and i'm not fully sold) but things look pretty good and I'm excited to see where it goes.
It's about a million times more responsive. Also, the co-op mode looks to be better than SC2. Modern visuals, engine etc. But there's lots we haven't seen yet, like the 3rd race. Also interestingly, they said there'll be 3 races at launch... but we could get more in the future. SC2 never went beyond 3. Having just one more would be amazing.
@@jackrogers5712 I left my comment because I felt the things you listed were not significant enough to be exciting for me. Especially if the gameplay feels pretty much the same but different units. Mixed feelings about having more than 3 because of balance but I can see where you're coming from.
It's a winning formula though so they're careful not to venture too far from "what works". But there are unique ideas being introduced, especially in the VS AI / 3v3 side of things. Those modes are basically their playground for new ideas. The 1v1 mode is going to be ultra competitive and tap into the whole e-sports scene - they intentionally want to keep things a bit more under control and familiar there. Also, the modding scene is going to be INSANE. I'd be shocked if you couldn't create the "more" that you desire - or someone else will do it for you (I know I'll be modding on day 1). A game with solid modding tools can never truly fail in my opinion, it allows the community to create content that can outclass what the devs have come up with. I remember back in the day people were buying Warcraft 3 only to play DotA - they didn't even know the game had a Campaign or ladder gameplay.
@@jackrogers5712 More responsive than SC2? That doesn't seem possible, SC2 is almost perfectly fluid. It certainly has limitations, but that is not one of them.
More races than 3 sounds like a balance nightmare.
@@coachmcguirk8277 SC2 in 2023 clearly doesn't work, especially when it comes to more casual audience. I keep seeing sc2 fans praising this project, yet I'm struggling to see ANY differences that would make a non-sc2 fan want to play this. So what's really groundbreaking about this game? Also while the artstyle is fine, I find the building/unit models to be awfully designed.
This really hits all the key points you could ask for in a modern RTS: alternative modes for more casual players, the ability to play ranked instantly for the ladder grinders, coop for people who want to play with friends, improved networking, and a full suite of tools for modders and custom campaign creators. It's also great to see the importance of an engaging setting and campaign being recognized, since that's where almost every new RTS player starts. You guys made my childhood with WC3 and The Frozen Throne back in your days at Blizzard, and I can't wait to see what you've created with Stormgate. Long live RTS!
I once played SC on my mom's company laptop so long that I overheated it and bricked it. This was back in 2000. I'm so excited about this game