Yamaha Montage M Synthesizer - What's NEW with Blake Angelos!!
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- Introducing MONTAGE M, the next-generation flagship synthesizer from Yamaha. 🎹
Yamaha Synthesizer Product Specialist Blake Angelos tells us all what's NEW on the the brand new Montage M6, M7, and M8X. Sit back with Blake and Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center, and learn all about Yamaha's mind-blowing new flagship synth 🔥
Check out all three of the Montage M models, available now from Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center! 👇
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0:00 Intro
0:34 Three Montage M Models
0:53 All new GEX weighted action & Polyphonic Aftertouch
01:29 Introduction to Three Montage M Synth Engines
02:11 Meet the NEW AN-X Virtual Analog Engine
02:50 AN-X "One of Those PAT" and Polyphonic Aftertouch Demo
04:16 More AN-X Sounds and the Quick Edit Screen
06:46 AN-X Sound Demos
08:39 Shift/Solo Parts with an AN-X Drum Groove
09:32 AN-X Syn Orch PAT (Polyphonic Aftertouch) Sound Demo with Scene Switching
10:36 NEW 128 Element AWM2 Architecture
11:41 CFX Concert in a SINGLE PART!
12:37 NEW Built in Pianos in Montage M - Hamburg Grand, Imperial, Felt Piano
15:02 NEW Electric Pianos - Rd 78 Natural Drive
15:24 NEW VCM Rotary Speaker Simulation
16:05 Using Faders as Drawbars on with Organs
16:41 Ribbon Controller Updates
17:07 NEW 9.97 Gb Wave ROM Preset Memory, 3.8 Gb Flash ROM User Memory, and 400 note polyphony
17:59 AWM2 Sounds - TamTam Adventures
19:34 NEW AWM2 Timpani's and Percussion with Round Robin Timps Sound
20:45 NEW AWM2 Sounds - Cinema Action Riser, More Trailer Toys
22:30 NEW AWM2 Sounds - Tyrannosaur
23:12 NEW Left Hand Controls - Keyboard Hold Button
23:57 Sound Demo - sFz Tremolo BPM Sync, New Oscilloscope
25:18 NEW Display Knobs and Display/View Modes
26:42 New Sounds from the FM-X Engine - 24 OP Organism
27:30 Assignable Knobs
28:01 New FM-X Sounds - Positronic
28:32 Sounds Featuring ALL THREE Engines!
29:54 Right Side Controls/Buttons
30:40 Category Search Button and Features
32:24 Library Locations Update
32:54 NEW Pure Analog Circuit 2
33:40 NEW Navigation Button Editing Features
36:52 Keyboard Control Button Update
39:47 COMING SOON!!! ESP Extended Soft Synth Plugin!! 🤯
40:51 Workflow Updates
43:07 Illustrating blazing fast instrument speeds with Smart Morph!
46:13 Outro and Invitation to Chuck Levin's!
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Personally, I'm a huge fan of the design. The colors are just superb
Looks much the same as Montage, and when you write a comment you don’t need to start with “personally”. It’s pretty obviousl that unless your account has been hacked, when you start with “I”, it’s referring to you, personally.
It looks great for sure!!! 🔥
@@ChuckLevinsIn your opinion of course.
@@X22GJP 😂
I think it’s alright….
this was a masterclass, I love how Blake explains things, true master. Nice setup too Chuck 🤙
Blake you are the best with your demos, walk thrus, amazing presentation, your incredible fun professionalism but most importantly your passion for Yamaha and trust.
Thank you Blake, I just purchased and received my Montage M6 a few days ago and I’m over the moon with it.
I was born in 1955 synths i think started in the 70s publically anyway, talk about covered wagons, we’ve gone from a 1920s style patch bay with cables to the inside of star trek. Just amazing
Born in 1999 these synths are shocking good nowadays well not as good as before when it comes to authenticity but I like where we are going so far
Thank you Blake!Wow I am blown away. The Anx1 was such a great keyboard engine to add into this new upgrade Montage!
Keeping the XF8. But those electric pianos and orchestral sounds are robust OMG! Can’t wait for the VST version to come out.😌🎶🎹👍🏾
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I’m wondering how the VST will relate to Halion. Technically us Halionites have the more advanced synth….but I will admit this thing sounds very good. I think it could even take on a Seventh Generation Synthesizer.
@@productamadeus8745We’ll see. It will be very interesting.
Blaaaaaaake! Been waiting eagerly for this new Montage.
Already got one ordered. Can't wait!!
Thanks for watching!!!
Really great and essential demo! The instrument improved to the right direction. Thank you Yamaha!
Thanks for watching! 🙌
Great presentation. Makes one salivating.
I am the owner of a original Yamaha Modx 8. Had it for a year. But this new series of the Montage is looking so impressive. Hoping to new one in the future 🤞🏽
Hope it trickles down to the MODX-EX-2 (whatever they plan to call it).
i lived in silver spring md. back in the 80's and
would spend alot of time at chuck levins back then.
i played accoustic guitar back then but the synths
caught my interest. i was way ahead of my time back
then because i would ask the keyboard guys why
there was not a single keyboard that could do everything
that the montage and others from today can do.
they all looked at me like i was an alien from space.
i was also at levins when madonna's music crew came
in to have their keys programmed, i actually watched
as the chuck levin folks made her keys play the songs all by
themselves!! it was a true wonder to hear holiday and like a virgin
play on their own. thanks blake for demoing some great stuff!!!
😮😮😂😮😮
Awesome!! Come see us again sometime!! 🔥
Amazing bro.
Blake makes it look and sound so easy!!! I'm still trying to figure out my Mod7x+
This is an amazing instrument.
😊
Perfect synthesizer, Yamaha!
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Well.. these newesr and latest keybds really need to bump up the polyphony. Whilst im still planning on getting the m7.. the polyphony is a huge limitation in this awesome board.
@@joestover626 thank you so much for the heads up! I didn't know about the limit on polyphony
Really Killing!!!
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That's a big improvement... Congratulations.
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Awesome! "Ya ma ha! Ya ma soul!" The Great Instrument! Amazing demo! 🎹👍 My question about an update for MODX+ with AN-X engine. Should we hope for this update? Please.
19mins in was amazing
I have a question about the Keys in the M 8x. and how the new keybed feels when compaired to the FSC keybed used in the 6 and 7 versions. How haevy are the Piano keys. As I have some issues due to a recent blod cloth with my left hand, playing on my current Kronos 73. The Piano keys i a struggle primarily in the left hand and as I would really like to have the poly AT, but not sure that the 8x is good idea as I am not sure yet that my issues with the left hand is permanent, so want to get some info to help to decide between a 7 or an 8x. I can get by with the 76 keys as the those missing keys really isn't an issue at least not for my use. It's more a decission about to let go of the poly AT idea due to my current struggle with the Kronos 73's Piano Keys
Great video! Does anyone know if the "Keyboard Hold" function is possible to do on the Roland Fantom?
Not yet, maybe in a future OS update
Only thing I can nag about is the missing Poly AT in the synth action M6 and M7, and they forgot to add an extra fader for drawbar control .. big miss both off'em
This is what I have been waiting for since my last hardware synth…an EX5. I must figure a way to obtain it immediately!😎
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Rob a bank??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great review. Nice to get an in depth demo from someone that understands all the nerdy synth details.
QUERO UM DESSE😮🇧🇷
I STILL remember when that FIRST MONTAGE came out back in *2016.*
So do I, it was only 8 years ago lol.
What I don‘t understand is that the new Montage didn‘t get the screen respectively the screen size of the Genos. It‘s much more fun to operate the Genos in comparison to the Montage. I speak from experience, because I use both often. But nevertheless I think the new Montage is a great step forward, the sound quality seems to be really high-resolution and really fat.
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Very much agree. I hope they at least put a new type of screen in, as neither the Montage or the Modx was even close to the responciveness of the Genos Screen. A 9" would have been nice, but it would be even nicer in the future to see Synths with 11" Screens like seen in Wersi Organs
Big sound, rich fonctionnality,
Id love for yamaha to add a feature where u can add chords in one note
Is this a performance synthesizer like the *Roland Jupiter* series? Is there a MOTIF-XF-STYLE *Sequencer* onboard?
Lots of cool new stuff but I'm really bummed on losing the 4x4 button grid for different pages in Live mode. It's an essential part of how I use the Montage live.
Moved to around the data wheel.
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Please how to apply a scenes and part elements on montage m series for beginners with confusing please make individual video for scenes and parts elements
Hi, can you please make a video MONTAGE M8 VS. YC88 piano sounds and keyboard? What are the differences??? TNXXX ❤❤❤
I wish you would have demonstrated the sequencer on this keyboard. I dont believe it was even mentioned.
Great vid.
As I see it, the smaller keyboard versions have no advantages apart from the price. Even fast synthesizer solos seem to be super playable on the 88-key version! What do you think?
Blake, we need a Montage module rack!!!!
So the previous Montage series seemed to be a throwback to the DX series with its FM orientated sound engine (which was in addition to the Montage’s other more traditional sound engines). The new Montage is showcasing a throwback to one of their 90’s synth, the AN1X which was analog modeling. So has the new Montage refocused the approach to analog modeling and stepping away from FM architecture? I’m still on the fence with the Montage series. I have a Motif XF and Roland’s current flagship Fantom. I’ve always favored the XF over the Montage for its sequencing abilities over the Montage. I primarily use DAW’s and VST’s, but even in todays market, a workstation with a good hardware sequencer is a major plus. The sound of the new Montage is very impressive though. Maybe I’ll pick one up.., the 88 key version is very tempting.
Blake's incredible playing and the sounds from Montage M was just 🤯🤯🤯🤯
you are right: the original XF sequencer is simply amazing....I still use it to master my rig....
They're not rejecting an engine over another, they are all there (FM, AWM, AN)
It has FM Synthesis
Hello Blake - What is the country of manufacturing for all Montage M series? Japan or Indonesia?
Anazing machine but the mic/di there seems to be clipping heavilly in the fuller sounds, not doing its sound fair justice... :p
Love it but these are 2 big for live use. They need to make it more the size of a nord stage 4 or yc 88 then they would be great.
Agreed - who would need something this complex and expensive for a live situation? And is this machine really above and beyond the capabilities of the current computer technology that is now so affordable? Is anyone going to know the sonic difference between the new Montage and a current computer full of DAWs and plugins? I don't think so. Yes, it has lots of pretty flashing lights and the newest and coolest "gee-whiz" screens and specs galore. Is it really going to change your music output quality? I don't think so.
@@jptaylor no my vst rig with gig performer would be much better, but hardware is nice and hassle free. So now most of the time I use a cp88 and and yc 61 live
@@onkeyz agreed - I just bought a new Yamaha YC88 and love it. But I also swear by Gig Performer 4 - wonderful piece of software. I also have Korg Wavestate, Kurzweil K2600R and Yamaha MOXF6.
Poly at definitely can change the way your music sounds
Honestly….I AGREE if only it were the size of a Nord Stage 4 it would be dope!
Can you load Montage libraries into the new montage m?
Yes!
Hi, How can I connect a midi controller with Yamaha Montage?
Usb plug or jack plug in the back 👍
It’s a great board! Why not have 9 faders though? That would be better for drawbar organ emulation, right? Currently, are 2 drawbars tied to one fader in the B3 organ setting?
Get an external drawbar controller.
@@jimbotron70of course, but what’s their reason for not adding a 9th fader? ✌🏾
@@truthmanifestingtruth The reason is at some point they have to put boundaries in what they could add and what they could subtract inside a defined time frame and retail price. Had they added the 9th fader someone could have still said: why not a 10th fader?
Why not a...
And so on...
@@jimbotron70 Well, no, people would not have wanted a tenth fader because Hammonds have nine drawbars. What would have made it near perfect would have been a ninth fader and a long ribbon like a CS-80.
Step sequencer?
Lovely pianos and other things . I have seen rumors of Cubase 13 ? More integration with Cubase ?
Here is a response from Blake! "There is definitely solid integration with Cubase with USB MIDI/audio, DAW remote capability and the upcoming Expanded Synthesizer Plugin."
I hope I see one of those bad boys at my local music store in Dundee?
What happened to the sequencer??? No updates?
I just don't understand why Yammy ditched the AN-X engine so early...when they could have developed it further. (I had the PLG-AN card, didn't sound like my AN1X) The new Montage shows what can be done with the AN-X engine...
Blake any sequencer improvements?
Functionally like MONTAGE. Performance Pattern and Song recording are available. Is there something that you want to know about what it can do?
I love all the ridiculous comments about how it is nothing special. People are such jealous bums.
Requesting a remote app for ipad.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
3:58 - I'm thinking, it might be time to watch a Flash Gordon movie again.
Question for Blake or Yamaha or anybody with the knowledge: Owning the yc and loving those pianos. Are the pianos in the M equally high resolution/definition. I feel the old montage (that I also own) are kinda weak in comparison to the yc. On the fence here.
Here is a response from Blake! "Yes, the pianos in MONTAGE M are awesome. The entire system is upgraded: Better DACs with Pure Analog Circuit 2, higher elements per Part, etc. I play YC88 all the time and MONTAGE M definitely is right there."
@@ChuckLevins awesome thanks so much for the quick answer
Yamaha use to make keyboard modules for a fraction of the price- will you release a Montage Module at any point?
@ChuckLevins
Is it really true, that Montage M doesn’t allow you to play all 16 parts live?
Only 8 ? Guessing like you.
@@freddyperezmusicentertainment Now I have a Montage M. And its possible to have kbrd ctrl on all 16 parts with a work around. Connect a midicable in/out, send 9-16 parts to channel 8. Unselect Pgr Change and bingo!!
i wonder how good the strings sound. I cant find a keyboard with good strings.
"ESP will be free for Montage M users" - does it mean there will be a paid version for non-Montage M users? I have a Motif XS and would really love to upgrade, but I don't really need the hardware, and I prefer VST workflow anyway.
You should keep your Yamaha Motif XS as it's still a fantastic piece of kit ( I wouldn't mind a rack version of Motif XS ). I know many of the Halion Sonic 3
and Halion 4 factory sounds are based on Motif XS and XF samples but on the hardware they sound far more superior to Halion. I prefer Motif over Montage
because Motif was the best synth/workstation Yamaha ever made. I also prefer VST workflow but it is also nice to hang onto any hardware you bought back
in the day.
@@LittleRichard1988 I'll probably keep it, that's why I'm primarily interested in a software version of Montage M. Korg did it with Native Opsix/Modwave/Wavestate, but then again the HW versions of them weren't $4K a pop. So I'm not sure what price tag would Yamaha have to come up with for it. I guess I'd be willing to pay a bit, something within the price range of an Omnishpere (around $500, I'd personally pay more because I love Yamaha's samples - but it might be a tough sell for someone simply looking for something Halion-like - why not just get Halion?)
As for XS - well, it's nice to keep hardware, but XS is hardly a synth that you can just sit at and play when you're inspired - it takes 40 seconds to boot it up... Not to mention if I want to load my favorite S700 piano into memory.
Without knowing the price, i was thinking of possibly getting one but at 4 n half K. I better look at something else haha😢... it's a lot heavier than a big bag of spuds too!!
DOES THE NEW YAMAHA M SERIES KEEP THE SAME SOUNDS AS THE OLD YAHAMA MONTEGE 8.. BECUASE I LIKE THE OLD KEYBOARD FOR THE CHURCH SOUNDS AND NICE PIANO SOUNDS AS WELL.. I DONT WANT TO BUY A NEW KEYBOARD AND ITS DIFFERENT OR DIDN'T KEEP THE OLDER SOUNDS
The film score sounded like it was part of the SAW soundtrack
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AN-X isn’t new, I’m looking at my 20yr old AN-1X, weird looking Smurf synth right now and it’s one of the best VA’s ever.
what about the sequencer?
I had added the idea of having a C7 grand piano for the Montage since 2018. I didn't add any ideas under the Other categories or synths that I would never own. I added them under the Montage / MODX category. So Yamaha decide to add this to the next generation synth that I will never be able to afford to own and give us an Upright piano library instead, but no C7 library like they easily could have throughout the past 3+ years of complete silence. Other ideas I added for the Montage are now in the Montage M. I never put those ideas there for a Montage M, I added them for the Montage like the concept of Ideascale was intended for, otherwise they wouldn't have had specific categories like Montage / MODX. To give us the Upright piano library and not the C7 is the biggest kick to the head possible by Yamaha! Completely pisses me off to see them add it to the next generation after going dark and silent for 3 years... Even my Rotary effect based off the YC could have been provided as one final OS update on the Montage, but instead they gave us the finger and added it to the new synth that I can never own. But that and other ideas I added that they never provided are nothing compared to the simple ask of the C7 grand that they have on ALL their other stage keyboards, including the cheaper CK, as well as the Workstation Arranger Genos...but not on their Flapship Montage. I was completed duped into the Ideascale concept and Yamaha used me and others to take those ideas and never give them to us, but give them to the next generation of owners. The only one that kills me and feels like a complete "F***k You" from Yamaha is not providing us the C7 library and giving us the almost useless Upright piano library...
Bro you knew your keyboard started to get old the moment it came out of the store. In a few years there will be a Montage 9, then 10, then...
Why would you not add the poly aftertouch to a synth action 61 key version? That's really lame to me. I don't know any piano players who prefer to play synth patches on Hammer Action keybed. Make a m6x and I will buy one.
It looks very heavy again, More then 20 kg?
checked the data list, some few new pianos, some few new other sounds, but the acustic drums (that I don't really like on earlyer models) are basically the same, and no Revo Drums, that's what I expected for this Montage M (I'm a Pop Rock man, and find the drums weak and tiny sounding) not impressed at all, don't need that cinematic drums for nothing, just wanted good sounding bold and punchy new Acoustic Drums
anyone wanna but a used Korg PA5x?
Seems to be quite a lot of unintended distortion on many of the sounds? Recorded a bit too hot?
You have convinced me into selling my Kronos :)))
Don't do it, keep them both!
@@ThePHoenixX99 I think I’ll do that
Is this worth selling to previous model, are the upgrades significant enough
Always🙂
Personally if I already owned the previous model I would stick with it although I don't own a Montage.
That's part fo the reason I don't buy modern keyboards however I do have Halion 7.
Is this montage is going to come white ?
Unscrew, take it off, sand down, spray, play 👌
Open a plugin in Montage M - year 2035.
Filter sounds very fizzy, and harsh, not terrible, but not analogue at all.
Your opening statement about workflow 😂😂😂😂 the workflow was always “pants”. Have they improved it at all? Hopefully yes with oled strip and ability to add more libraries.
WHAT ABOUT FL STUDIO DAW????
Lot's of $$$
Why did they leave out aftertouch on the 6/7 models? Aren't they part of the flagship line?
Makes it a no for me, but that's just me
I use a Yamaha Clp 795 gp as a piano and like a 76 key synth on top, I’m purchasing the montage m 7 but I agree, I wish it had the after touch, I just don’t want and already huge 88 key keyboard sitting on top of my piano, they 76 key will be big enough already
Agreed. Poly AT should've been across the whole line.
@@gavintruesdel3728 They all have aftertouch only difference is the 88 key model has the new GEX action with polyphonic aftertouch which is a different type of aftertouch to give a more natural feel on the pianos.
is a Moster Synth
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Every version … always so great etc…. Organ fake Leslie sound. String sound grand piano sound. I don’t think they will ever get there Anyway - I’m sure a bar band might include one, but it would be a ridiculous investment. The kind that drives Dave Ramsey out of his mind
Kool comment. But yea lot of money for what kronos can do since 2011
Why not make a 12" inch screen like on the Ipad Pro. That small screen is ridiculous. Go all out and design it right. That screen is too small, it's 2023 not 1998. You have all that empty space on the right & left top of the keyboard, could've move those buttons over more, so you can make the screen bigger. That screen is the same size as my smarrphone screen. What a waste of space
Does it have really basic things like chord memory?
I was thinking about getting one until he said the anx engine only had 16 note polyphony!? He kind of muttered it under his breath so it was hard to understand, I had to rewind to hear it clearly. That was pretty shady. And totally unacceptable. 16 note polyphony are you kidding me wtf
First Comment!!
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As a owner of the 2016 montage I feel disappointed with new version. Only 16 voices for the AN-X and still no decent features to create and/or modify the arpeggios. They kept the same pattern sequencer that does allow for step editing and/or editing notes. I think I keep my existing for quite a while…
Yamaha being selfish, why only add the polyphonic after touch only to the 88 keys?
To operate montage, I must learn some sound engineering. Only a music composer needs this.
I will never forgive my brother for calling me a super knob.
I hope one day you guys can turn the knob the other direction
So preset wave memory isn’t doubled at all, more like a 76% increase…awful marketing Yamaha, awful.
This now blows the new nord stage 4 out of the park 100% nord wake up Yamaha has just destroyed your piano
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We cannot get alittle bigger screen, wtf, these companies are out of touch with the world, 10 inch screen, makes more sense. In 2023.
The pads are too digital and clean, not organic. The basses have no body. The acoustic pianos are impressive. The drums are mediocre as well as the imitation of analog sounds, they lack the real analog dirt, this Yamaha doesn't have it, I think the last Yamaha that had that real analog 'feel' was the EX5.
Too bad you can only play 8 sounds on your keyboard and not all 16 like other brands can.
Yep - it’s a POS because it “only” plays 8 sounds instead of 16. 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
@@jptaylorNow it can 16 parts!!! I tried that!
Dude be honest who is out here even playing more than 4 sounds at a time?😭🤦🏾♂️🤣
@@jptaylor like nobody is out here using all 16 sounds not even 8 sounds🤣 bruh tripping
@rayhill4625 I am but you can tell if you hear some of the themes I play on my channel. Especially my old cover of Lolita🤣🤣 Been a while gotta post new ish.
I just got the M8X and I had the FA-08 Prior. which could do 16, You can still do 16 on the m8x but not with every sound. Which makes sense I guess because some of the sounds are SUPER LAYERED.
What a nervous explanation.
I'm still very disappointed at Yamaha's slow progress. I am not impressed at some of their new features either. They were terrible drawbacks of the original models that they failed to address in a timely fashion. To now introduce them as a new feature is a scam!
One of those drawbacks was your sound cutting off as you changed programs! Just disgusting!
As someone who has arranged my own sound using a DAW (FL Studio) and a controller, I switch programs seamlessly without signal breaks. And that's for a fraction of the cost of the Montage!
Similarly, he mentioned the keyboard control especially for us church players, to enable us add or remove instruments seamlessly and fade them easily. That's absolutely not new. We've been doing that with controllers for long.
I also hope the touchscreen has been upgraded. The current models have a laggy response.
I know it has genuine new features like the ribbon control and the 512x64 status display and also upgdaded memory size and maximum polyphony but I expect it to have way more hardware control features like the actual switches on an organ, drum pad, live drum suite controls, a full TouchPad for X-Y axis control/blending.
I expect more input output control for the analog audio, probably a dedicated EQ also. Then, the $5,000 price tag can be justified.
So are Montage Drums gone? Or maybe part of AN-X now?
All sounds from the original MONTAGE are there as well as more drum kits!