Romanian Air Force in Operation Barbarossa (Part 1)
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- čas přidán 24. 11. 2023
- Romanian Air Force joined the invasion on the USSR from the first day. It eventually fought against two more major powers in WW2 and produced a significant number of fighter aces. Several fighter types were employed by this service such as Messerschmitt Bf-109, Hawker Hurricane and lesser known ones such as Heinkel He-112 and locally developed IAR-80/81.
In this part, we will focus on the early days of Operation Barbarossa.
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- Denes Bernad - Rumanian Aces of World War 2
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- Teodor Liviu Morusanu - Romanian Fighter Colors 1941-1945
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Special thanks to Bilack for help with Romanian pronunciation! Also, some of the assets in this video are not 100% accurate. IAR-80 is represented here by IAR-81 and Sea Hurricane flies instead of 'regular' Hurricane as WT refused to let me use it in my user created mission for some reason. Thank you for understanding!
I was very impressed with the pronunciation!
@@lexthemystic3541 I had a Romanian tutor 😁
Very interesting, didn’t know anything about the Romanian Air Force.
Given the circumstances, they should have been allied forces, except for the geography doomed them.
Sort of a paradox, who do you join with if you are Romanian, on the one hand there are Soviet swine, The other side, racist Nazis….. YUK!
Did you make these vids with Il2 engine? They are great!!! You may find the topic of the May-1940’s days in The Netherlands interesting to cover. A lot of JU-52’s were destroyed there by Fokkers. It’s said that this crippled the transportation capabilities of the Luftwaffe which hindered the plans for Operation Seelion.
What a masterpiece of a video! As a romanian, it's nice to see that someone finnaly covers the sorties that romania did and the country's contribution in the war. Although romania did a lot in ww2, there's little to no videos and materials on it. Thanks for this vid and i hope you will cover more stuff that romania did, even post-war!
Thanks! I would very much like to cover some more of this topic. The Romanian pilots' efforts against American attacks might make some pretty god videos for example.
No physical evidence for battle of Stalingrad
@@mustang1912 there are records stating that although romanians didn't fight in stalingrad, they protected the left flank i believe
Ausser wegrennen und zu den Russen übergelaufen hat Der Rumänische Soldat ja nicht allzuviel Geleistet!Das weiß ich von meinem Opa der mit denen zusammen Gekämpft hat.Er hat nur Schlecht von den Rumänen gesprochen.
@@peterlinz2733 our army was ill-equipped and not trained well. We entered the war in 1940 we had tanks from 1935, airforce was badly equipped due to missing parts and our entire army didn't have the necessary weaponry, since we were pretty poor because we were recovering from hundreds of years of ottoman occupation and ww1
Wow, such an exciting war history topic, thank you! " After the Communist takeover, Agarici was dismissed from the Air Force. Between 1953 and 1955 he was deported to the village Neatârnarea in Tulcea County. In 1955 he was stripped of his rank, sentenced to 25 years hard labor, and imprisoned at the notorious Aiud Prison. In 1964 he was released and his rank of Captain was reinstated in 1965."
Thank you for the feedback and for adding interesting details relevant to the topic!
Sentenced to hard labors, crime: Being a Hero.
I hadn't realized that the He112 had seen combat. It was one of my favourite aircraft back when I played War Thunder.
I would indeed like to see more of this bit of history. Thanks.
It was also flown by Nationalist forces in the Spanish Civil War. Your vote for the video sequel is noted!
I would like a part 2 too!
I’ve been waiting for you to do one on the Romanian Air Force on the Eastern Front. I’m definitely up for Part II.
Thank you for the interest! I've been planning this one for a while.
Cool stuff! I am partial to ww2 romanian livery on these well known fighters of the era
Thanks! The Romanian liveries are quite interesting, more colorful than the most.
Another class given by the master of aerial combat history. Thanks and it was a really interesting video
I'm happy to hear that you liked it, thanks!
@@showtime112yet again another gem of a video..thank you.👍👍👍
This reminds me of some WW2 romanian aviation related stories lived by my relatives!!
Were they involved? I might be interested to hear.
@@showtime112 my grandpa who got injured on the battlefield near Targu Frumos in Spring of '44 was transported to a military hospital. The medical truck in which he and his fellow soldiers was straffed by a enemy russian aircraft.The bonnett of truck raised itself when the bullets hit it! He was unscaved but a few companions were not so lucky.He managed to escape death's claws three times that day!!My great grandpa was working on the fields with his horse carriage when suddenly an enemy aircraft started to dive in to strafe him...his long shirt had got stuck on the wagon's iron pole while he tried to release the horses. He eventually freed himself and ran for cover under the wagon carriage. He was lucky and escaped with no injuries. From what details I remember this may have been in late June or July 1944.I deduced that the aircraft being an american bomber escort from shuttle bombing mission attacking either Buzau or Zilistea-Boboc airfield in Operation Frantic.My great grandpa lived some 5 km away ftom Boboc airfield.
The last romanian ace Ioan Dobran died in September 2021 at 102 years. Other aces were Constanin "Bazu" Cantacuzino, Alexandru Serbanescu, Tudor Greceanu, Ioan Dicezare, Dan Vizanty, Ioan Milu
Also my great grandpa hosted for 3 years some Luftwaffe personnel in his house. Not sure if they were mechanics or pilots.
Awesome video about a neglected subject we'd all like to hear more about, especially how good the IAR-80 really was! Thanks Showtime 112!
Thank you for the feedback! I hope to do more videos about IAR-80 and Romanian Air Force in general.
Great video 👍
Thank you!
I was so happy to see the only copy of IAR 80 last
year in Bucharest ❤
Very interesting. I love your focus on the lesser Axis allies.
Thank you! There is plenty of material left to cover.
Very interesting, looking forward to a sequel(s).
Thank you very much!
You've peaked my interest in the Romanian airforce in ww2 now. I'd been needing some new topic to research.
You won't be disappointed, quite a lot of interesting details there.
Love your content! Keep it up!
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
Very interesting video. It is nice to see the history of the smaller countries revealed. I hope you will do also the second part. Thank you.
Thank you for your positive feedback! The vote for a sequel is noted.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Great video production as always. Showtime112 keeping aviation alive and well. Thanks for doing so. Great work! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇲🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️💮🌸🌼🌺🏴☠️🏹
Thanks again! I've been planning to cover this topic for quite some time.
Yet another excellent video about an important (yet rather obscure) air combatant of the 2nd world War (and another featuring the cute I-16 😂). The air war on the eastern front is relatively not widely covered, so thanks for the video. Keep 'em coming!
Thank you for the continuous positive feedback! Eastern front is something that deserves to be know a little better.
Another awesome video
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Nice. Largely forgotten history.
True. Thank you for your comment!
Thank you for covering the Royal Romanian Airforce!
My grandpa flew Bf109s in the 7th Fighter Group during the war.
Thank you for watching! Did you have a chance to talk to him about it?
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No.... unfortunately he died in 1991 at 70 years old due to illness.
But my grandma is still alive and would tell me stories about him and how he got in the airforce. He was born in Constanta in 1921 and would help my grand-grandpa with work at the docks as a kid, later on he found out about aircraft and fell in love with them, trained to be a pilot, but when the germans overthrew our King in 1941, he was picked as a fighter pilot because of his "agresive" flight style, otherwise he would have been relocated as a bomber pilot. He fought through the Soviet Union all the way near Moscow. One of his most impressive stories is about how him and a friend managed to escape with a couple of pilots from an airfield as the russians overrun their positions at the airfield they were stationed and even brought tanks.
After we changed sides, he flew missions in Czechoslovakia, and in his post war service, I believe he became a flight instructor untill his retirement in the 1970s.
If he would have been an ace, the communist party would have berated him as a public shame and force him to either work in a scrap factory or straight up sent to jail on political stuff. Thats why aces such as Cantacuzino and Dan Vizanty left the country and died away from their families and friends after the war.
Another cool fact, is that my grandma and my mother lived in an apartment block filled with ex military men, one of our neighbors was a IAR80 pilot who fought the americans when they bombed Bucharest trying to bomb the railway station and instead they butchered 3000 civilians and injured 2500 more. He died around 2015-16, at that time I was already pasioned with air SIM games, such as IL2 and War Thunder, and would talk to him about aircraft, he was olways a cheerfull man with his hands in the air trying to gesture the maneuvering of aircraft. I miss the old generations
Excellent video, definitely interested to see a Part 2, including when Romania switched sides in 1944.
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Yes, i'd like to know more on Rumanian air force in WWII. Please, do more videos!
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Excellent video. An obscure, yet important part of history.
I'm happy to hear that you liked it!
Outstanding, as usual. Congratulations!
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Great video. I can't wait for part 2
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As a child, I used to build model kits of aircraft. Matchbox used to give you 2 choices of markings with their kits and I built a BF109E with the Romanian alternative scheme as I thought it looked great. Interesting to hear the background to those planes
Thank you for the feedback and for sharing your experience. I used to build models too when I was younger. I hope to return to that hobby someday.
Bang on... as always!
Nice video 👍
Thanks Chups!
Thank you for this video, I’m waiting for part 2.
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great video, its good to learn about the lesser known air battles and pilots of world war two.
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Another excellent documentary on a theater of WW2 that I was not familiar with.
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
Wonderful as always.
Thanks a bunch!
Good job! Part 2 please. Thank you.
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Great video! I'd love to see a part two!!!
Thank you, vote noted!
Wonderful work. Thank you very much.
I am happy to hear you liked it, thank you!
Great stuff! I look forward to Part 2. I hope it deals with the Ploesti raids.
Thank you! There will probably be at least one video covering the battle against American formations later in the war.
This channel has fantastic content!
Thank you very much for this compliment!
Great video! Look forward to more in this series.
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Great video!This is the first video I saw about the He-112 and IAR-80.
Thank you! Yes, those are a couple of obscure warbirds that deserve some more attention.
Lo has hecho de nuevo. Maravilloso video. Perfecto 💯. Gracias
I am glad to hear it, thank you very much!
Great video
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Love your show...very very Accurate 🖖
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Brilliant and highly educational video about the Romanian Air Force during Operation Barbarossa. Well done and keep it up. More like this please.
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Excellent, thanks.
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Definitely interested in a part 2!
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always liked the He 112. such a nice looking plane with good possibilities if they had been upgraded.
I guess its main rival was simply too good and there was no room for both.
Cool stuff, keep it comming! 👍🏻
I really like the old-tape effect.
Cheers! 🙋🏼♂️🍻🍻
Thanks! I'm using some new techniques and I'm happy how they turned out.
Yes, make Part 2, please!
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Great video.
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Excellent video about a little known topic.i would love to see the second part. david Mahoney
Thank you for the positive feedback! I will definitely cover the Romanian Air Force some more.
Every Vid is Topp,lg Ringo
Thank you once again!
Interesting topic, would enjoy a part 2
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Really informative as usual. I did not know anything about the Romanian contribution prior to this video.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! Most people don't know much about this topic.
Foarte interesante! Multumesc frumos! Totul bine cald in beci.😊
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@@showtime112 thanks a lot for the video
I'd certainly like to watch more videos on this topic!
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Excellent idea to speak about these romanian pilots who have fought against USSR since Barbarossa opération.
We do not know nothing about this confrontation, like the french pilots who have fought against the english in Syria on 1941.
Une période peu connue de ma part. Même pour les avions fourni aux Roumains. Pour les as non plus apart le Prince Cantacuzene. Mais arrivé plus Tard. Pour les français en Syrie je connais un peu . C'était du P40 et Blenheim contre des MS 406 et des Martin Maryland. Ya eu de la casse
I agree that these 'forgotten' air forces of WW2 deserve some mention. I've read the 'Romanian Aces' for the first time more than fifteen years ago and I found it very interesting. It gets even more interesting later when they face USAAF and heavy bombers.
@@showtime112 yes mate. Luftwadffe sent to Romania captured french dewoitine 520. One of thèm succeed to shot down à B24 Liberator using all ammunition fired at point blank. Destroy one engine and fuselage
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Connais rien du tout à propos des roumains.
@@jeannezehner9450 juste le prince Cantacuzene. Après on construit le I.A.R 80.. on sait pas trop de quel côté ils étaient !!!contre les russes et après contre L usaf
Por favor faça um video sobre Bulgarian Air Force! Please
I might do that, I need to do some research to see what would make a good video.
Could you do a series for ww2 air combat of Slovakia, Hungarians, Bulgaria, croatia, and Thailand?
I'll probably cover some of that too, thank you for the suggestion!
More vids about the romanian air force please. Romanians liked the Messerschmitt Me410 Hornisse and fought the US during the famous Ploesti attacks.
210 I think?
I really want to do more videos. Fight against American bombers might be a particularly interesting topic. Thank you for the feedback!
Hope you will do a part 2. Cantacuzino had 57 air victories.
Thank you very much! I hope to cover some more of the topic in the future.
Definitely an interesting subject often forgotten about. Also those black and white clips look pretty good.
I quite agree, thank you for the feedback! I'm trying some new techniques to get that 'original footage' feel. You can never get it 100% right but that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying :)
@@showtime112 Well it certainly looks convincing.
Interesting information about the Heinkel fighters and their use in combat.
Yes, that is an obscure fighter but I like those :)
Hello Showtime112, I have wanted to write to you for a long time. Your channel is spectacular, your explanations are very clear, entertaining, and explanatory. You treat topics with great respect and impartiality. I am passionate about military aviation, especially little-known or little-discussed conflicts, which is exactly what I find here. I am from Chile and I was very surprised to see videos of conflicts in Latin America. I look forward to seeing videos in the future about the Chaco War or the Bay of Pigs and of course the second part of this video of Romania in the Second World War. Greetings
Thank you for the feedback. You are definitely the right target audience for this channel 😁 As for your suggestions, the Chaco War is a bit problematic to cover as the airplane types used in it are not covered by any simulation. The Bay of Pigs is a different story and as far as I see it, it can be done. I just need to get the proper inspiration (which is hard to predict in my case).
You are absolutely right about the Chaco War, you constantly mention the models available in DCS. But I have another suggestion: did an Iraqi Mig-25 shoot down an F-18? Is that true or is it just an urban myth?..I really like to see that...when inspiration comes to you!!!, greetings.@@showtime112
@@hermeschavez7398 its true
Yes great to see info about minor Nations in WW2 Dennis-Michael.
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate the content!
Interesting to watch all these minor powers air forces at war. Thanks, great channel! I wonder if Romania got back those lands? Oh, they got back Northern Transylvania. I guess no one else wanted it? The children of the night.
Thank you for the positive comment! I believe Romania regained most of the land but they definitely didn't get what the Soviets took from them. No vampires in Moldavia as far as I know :)
From a romanian thank you for this video!!! We know so little about our air heroes. ❤🇷🇴👍
Thank you very much! Current statistics show less than 300 viewers on this video are from Romania, just as an illustration.
@@showtime112 Well some of us migrated to the US after the fall of communism so might not show in the statistics. My father fought at the battle of Targu Frumos, but as an infantryman, against Soviet tanks, so I could not contribute to the topic here.
Beautifully crafted, a very interesting and often forgotten part of WW2.
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Any plans about doing a video on Royal Romanian AF defence actions during Operation Tidal Wave?
Kudos for this video & the pronunciation!
Thank you for the feedback! I would love to do such a video in the future and I probably will. The American aspect of this operation is well known but the other side point of view (and especially the Romanian side) is not known well enough.
Nice video! You are adding some filters . Thanks
Thank you for watching and commenting! I introduced some new techniques and I think they look rather good.
@@showtime112 looks awesome, congrats!
Never seen this channel but when I saw the HS129 B-2 in the Italy tree with the romania flag I knew I wanted to learn its history
Thank you for the feedback, stick around to check other things as well.
Although not a fan lf the Axis Powers, these little known participants really sheds a substantial amount of light on such a storied and romanticized, but undetailed conflict: WW2. In highschool, it was taught that the Axis powers were only three nations that took on and almost defeated the world. Thanks to little videos like these, it's proven that wasn't even remotely the case. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback! As usually, things are much more complex than at the first glance.
Cool video! Have you ever thought about doing more videos using the different vehicles War Thunder has like ships and tanks?
Thanks! It might be possible on the long run. Perhaps it might start as a combination of some kind. For example, Rudel describes attacking some T-34s in a Soviet town which were maneuvering and hiding in the streets. It might be cool to show their point of view as well.
That would be really cool! I have a lot tanks and planes unlocked in War Thunder so if you ever need people to help out I’m sure me and many others would love to help out.
Great video. I definitely think we need to hear more of Romania's contribution and indeed that of the involvement of the other smaller European Axis nations during the air war in Eastern Europe.
Thank you very much. Your vote for part two is noted!
Oh Showtime you sweet summer child!!! How could you think that we wouldn't want part II????? So see you on the next one.
I appreciate your enthusiastic interest! This video didn't start too well but it's climbing in order so part 2 is getting more certain.
Thanks
Thank you watching and commenting!
I really hope we can get a part 2 to this one day still :/
I very much liked the segments in black and white. They seemed actual gun camera footage.
I was happy how they came out too, thank you for the feedback!
Maybe Romania used the H-112 in combat only. Hungary had I think about three pieces of this type, but never saw actual combat.
During Spain civil war, Germany sent 17 Heinkel 112 and flying by spanish volunteers.( Not légion Kondor) pilots said this plane was superior against Bf 109 B and C( planes have same engine Junkers Jumo 210)
It looks like the Hungarian examples didn't see any combat but other than Romania, some saw action in the Spanish Civil War.
@@showtime112 17 Heinkel were send to spain flying by spanish volunteers.
Not by légion kondor. Pilotes said it was supérior vs bf 109B C. Even same engine junkers jumo 210
i believe a Spanish he-112 shot down a p-38 which had crossed into Spanish territory perhaps in north africa cannot remember.
@@exocet1 Yes, there is a painting about it on some Squadron Signal book(let), called the "In Action" series. Was it forced to crashland in Algeria.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_112
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_112_operational_service
Incredible history 👍
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Thanks.
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Romanian aces never mention in the air combat history book🤔 .
Yes, they are definitely overlooked. Even in their own country.
Most of them were never mentioned by post war history books because romanian history was written by comunists after WW 2. So, as you can imagine, there was no place for them in the Red's historical perspective of that corner of the world, given the fact that most if not all romanian aces achieved this status shooting down bolschevik planes. In some regards, their faith was similar with that of the polish pilots after their return to the Polish People's Republic...Sad ending for such brave souls.
Fascinating.
I'm happy to hear that you liked the video!
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I model WWII military subjects in 1/72 scale and am always looking for different markings and history of different subjects. I’m glad to get the Romanian history.
Love obscure little tidbits of history like this. But what version of IL-2 did you use to this video? Want to fly it now
Thanks for the comment! This is War Thunder, not IL-2.
oh really, the graphics were just so good. lol @@showtime112
Great vid maybe Hungary or Bulgaria next?
Thank you! I hope to cover some of those topics in the future too.
Great video 👏 but where is part 2?
Thank you! It's still waiting to be done :) I will certainly cover some more Romanian Air Force in the future but I can't say when exactly.
1:45 in one of my several books😂 i can read 13 model B-0 and 11 B-1were sold to Romania. Dont know many info about Heinkel 112. It was poor parent of aeronautics books.
The only ace i know was prince Cantacuzene, i think.
For the end, Romania dont have ....aircraft carrièr😂😂( sea hurricane)
Yes, Heinkel 112 is one of those obscure warbirds which should get some mention now and then. Cantacuzino was the leading Romanian ace, I'll probably do a story about him someday. As for the Hurricane, the game simply refused to let my fly it in the mission. Fortunately, there was a rather similar one :)
Also it should be mention, that rear part of IAR-80 was based on PZL-24 (to faciliate start of production), which was produced under licence in Romania. It was curious, that the most modern polish planes were sold abroad, and not used in PAF (Polish not Pakistani Air Force)
Thanks for the info!
Part 2 please
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So true, little has been mentioned about the Romanian air aces!
Minor Axis powers are pretty much overlooked. But I definitely plan to explore this story some more. Hard to say when exactly.
@@showtime112 Whenever you can, thanks!
Good work !!!
Can You make a work abaout Pucará and hes combats???(scout destroy )
Thanks You.
Thanks! The Pucara story in the 1982 conflict is planned. Now, DCS doesn't have Scout helicopter. War Thunder has it but there's no Pucara in it. I'll have to do some creative editing magic :)
A very fair video and well documentated, a romanian guy say that.
Thank you very much for the feedback!
Loved the Romanian v russia show. If possible I am looking forward to the next chapter...esp the use of german, british and polish planes.
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Interesting period. Romania except polish fighters albo bought bombers (PZL-37 Los). Less known fact is that , in 1941 they were used in a provocation aimed at forcing Hungary from joining the war (Basically, it was an idea/suggestion of the Germans). They were repainted in Soviet colors and then bombed Kosice (annexed to Hungary in 1938, now part of Slovakia).
Thank you for the comment and for contributing additional info!
I had no idea the HE-112 went into production.
Not many were built, a hundred or so. But it's still an interesting overlooked warbird.
@@showtime112 it’s a very interesting aircraft 👍😊
Forță bine!
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In the book of G.V. ZIMIN - FIGHTER PILOTS , you can find a lot of info about years of fighting against German Luftwaffe , Romanian FAAR ,and Italian REGIA AERONAUTICA , starting from I-15/16 ,thru MIG -3 /9 , till LA-7 ....
Thanks for the tip!
Yes please
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Very good documentary. I like it alot. Not much time îs devoted to romanian forces during wwii
Thank you! I agree, this is not a well known subject. But definitely not for being boring.