Built Vs Bought RWD DRIFT CARS- MST RMX 2.0 VS Sakura D4
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2022
- Is it better to build or buy a rwd RC drift car? In this video we find out. They are both brushless, they both look great, but is it better to go RTR? While Ready to Run might not have as much street cred as a custom build, its certainly easy for beginners. Just add a lipo and you're good to start rd drifting. If you enjoy wrenching as much as sliding, the Sakura is a great platform and much more budget friendly than the likes of Yokomo. Just add the touring car body of your choice along with all the electronics and set up the car the way you want.
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I love building. I bought an HSP chassis (used on offer up) RDR without battery. For $120. Then I bought scale interior parts I converted it to RWD and bought an Amazon HSP chassis (flat) and transferred all the components. Then I bought a yoko gyro. $77 And some rims $26 and tires $16 then I had some plastic lying around I cut them and put them on to help with steering angle. Messed with the placement of all my components. Bought an R34 body painted it and a light kit. $375.98 later it’s exactly how I wanted it to be. I’m getting the hang of drifting it. I’m having lots of fun and I’m becoming addicted to this hobby 😅🎉
I bought an upgrade gyro for my MST rmx2.0, and after trying to tinker with it I put the stock gyro back in since I am used to it. I would love more videos on drift gyros... gyros feel like their own rabbithole.
Absolutely!!
I did the same thing.. then I adjusted the camber, and messed with the gyro slowly until I was content. It honestly took couple of tries and give ups.. I gave up on it like 3x.. but then I was like man it's got to work and I dialed it in good enough for my amateur status... Hope you didn't give up on it . I grabbed the futaba gyro
Hi where did you find your car I could not find it
Thank you guys, great video editing, such a pleasure to watch videos in this quality 😉👍🏼💯 always great content from 10th scale squad 🔥
Dang! Thanks so much
Thanks for the video it was so helpful. I subscribed because of the drifting angles, cool pov
Thanks dude!
Great video, thanks for the honest review. I still like the Lexus/Sakura more but both look awesome 👍
It was fun! Like any good project, it’s never finished….. just evolving.
Your honesty makes you likeable, I'm in the same boat built a tamiya tto2D awd drift car. Cant steer it much, but also very little wheel time. I now bought the MST 2.0 kit and its close to being finished.
Your review of the two cars is very useful info, thanks for sharing.
Excellent choice!!
Literally just finished building my AWD tt02 drift truck and currently waiting on my Mst RMX 2.0 to come in 😂
yet another great video my friend!! i really enjoy building my own rigs, i have a heavily modified and tuned tamiya TT02. love the content and best wishes my friend
I’ve got a TT-02 coming.
Great video!! Awesome comparison between the two. Sorry your built car didn't perform as well but you still drift way better than I can.
Thanks buddy. It’ll get there eventually.
cool rc's and great info on both of them
Great video Guys 👍
Thanks for sharing your thoughts ✌
I have a rmx 2.0s I built it’s a great platform, I’m in the middle of building a Sakura d5, I’m still pretty new to drifting but it’s fun learning. I be seen a lot if people say the spectrum radios aren’t great for drifting, they usually don’t play well with the gyro’s
Yeah maybe. It works great for everything else.
Great channel. Got.a new sub😊
Hey thanks! I’m glad you’re here.
I'm not a builder, but have always thought it would be cool to try at some point. Both vehicles look great. There's nothing to he sad about with your custom build if you enjoyed building it. If nothing else, it will be a great platform to really learn about what parts and tunes are good for drifting. You probably learn much more from a "failed" custom build than a pre-built car. At least you have the two to compare against each other so you can tweak your custom build.
I just bought a tamiya tt-02 that I plan on building on the channel.
Very informative, thank you!
Rwd. Love to see more rwd, maybe less gyros? Cool channel😊
I got my son an RMX. I tried to go cheap and picked up some Traxxas electronics. Bad idea. I'll be getting some real drift electronics soon. Great video as always! 🤘
Thanks so much!! Good luck!
Good morning great video nice cars
where did u purchase the lexus shell for the chasis. i would like to get one for my 1/10th scale
Cool information
Nice info. I about got the d4 a couple weeks ago but decided to wait till after I get the kraton 6s out of lawaway lol I'm glad I waited. And Im also hoping the MST parts come back in stock from the Christmas rush before I get it because there really wasn't any parts available. everything was back ordered or out of stock. And if I can upgrade it I don't want. I love customizing lmao .... subbed 🤘
Welcome to the 10th scale squad!!
@@10thScaleGarage 🤘 thanks bro
Thank you for the comparison, I just picked up an MST 2.0 from Hobby Town last weekend, my first drift (have had HPI Sprints in the past). What battery brand do you recommend as far as a 2s Lipo?
I just use a high C rated hard pack. They fit snug, but at least they’re not sliding around in there.
@@10thScaleGarage Thanks, first time buying one.
Hey 10th scale garage. Maybe some tips to check out for on your built drifter. Set your front toe almost 0° no more than 3°. Front ride height lower than the rear for weight transfer. Your gyro gain looked a little high because it was pushing its nose when initiated into a drift. Keep up the awesome content man
Maybe try changing the wheels from the most as well. They look like they'll be harder allowing for more slip and a softer initiate of the drift
Thanks buddy I’m on it!
I know what you did. You cheaped out on the servo, and possibly your gyro, as well. Also, what worked best for me, was having the steering speed turned down to where it feels more realistic, the steering dual rate turned down to where you're about 75-85% of full lock, and the gyro sensitivity set to about 53-58%, depending on the surface. Try to invest in a sensored motor and esc, like a Hobbywing Quicrun 10BL120, and Quicrun 10.5t. Also, definitely get some Yokomo DR-C, or DR-A tires. They work wonders.
Yeah, the gyro is AWFUL!
@@10thScaleGarage Oof. Based on personal experience, get the YeahRacing HackSlider gyro. I used to have one, before I sold my drifter. It was an awesome gyro, for the money.
Try moving the internals such as the battery to find the perfect weight. Also, adding small weights may also help. It seems like the weight is quite far to the front(im not a pro) so *maybe* try adding/moving it to the back. It would be lit if you made a video about it as well.
I plan on it.
I got out of RC years ago. Drifted old Yokomo YZF, TamiaTA04, all before drifting was even a thing. Ran the Sakura in RWD for awhile and now starting up again everyone is RWD and gyros? Must be nice.
If u have the parts in your garage, id try a Traxxas controller and reciever with tsm. See if that system will work smoother for u. Just a thought.
Do you have the link for the GTR
Enjoy the weekend
better then what i got, rn im using a jada drift rc that came awd but took out the shaft and made it rwd, im looking to get the mst rmx 2.0 and doing a miata body on it
I have a tamiya with a Miata body. Love that thing.
Afro rc has some great setup videos.....j.s. great content tho 😁
Yeah! That guy is a wizard. He makes it look easy.
Where did you purchase the MST?
I’m checking it out bro! 👍
You must have the bell on!!
@@10thScaleGarage I do👍
Your built drift car is cool. I’m new to drifting 6 months in but I feel a great gyro Yokomo v4 or Futaba GYD-550 with nice digital servo Yokomo or Futaba.
Tuning is key😉 still learning
To much to write but you get the idea👍
I do need to make a video on drifting since I hangout with guys that been into for years
I had the D4 once and it was a pain to tune for drifting over all I really didn’t like it and had to sell it and get the yokomo yd-2s it drift amazing and it was a little more easy to tune than the d4 what I recommend for the d4 is more angle I’m the front and harder tires so it doesn’t grip so much so it can slide around and makes sure to have a sensor motor and esc if you get the sweet point tune for the d4 it would be amazing too! Keep it up don’t give up on the d4
i disagree, the d4 is one of the worst rwd platforms out there and it makes me cringe when people somehow still recommend them over the massively superior d5. the amount of money and tuning required for a d4 is not worth it, especially since it'll never reach the performance of a box stock rmx no matter what you do to it. just avoid them at all cost lmao
@@buss1205 yeah the d4 is terrible to tune out of the box tbh, it's not a great platform for beginners. The d5 though as long as it's the d5v2 and d5mr did resolve this issue though but it's a little bit less on par against those higher ends chassis out there. I mean it's worth the price anyways not to mention can be hopped up
The biggest difference is 1 cost so much less, because you pay more for quality you can pay a lot to make the rmx2.0 better about the same cost and it will be equivalent but why would ya
Hey do you have a link to the body mount set ups you guys use?
HobbyPark Aluminum Alloy Magnetic Stealth Invisible Body Post Mounts Black for 1/10 RC Rock Crawler Drift Touring Car (Set of 4) www.amazon.com/dp/B07J3YYFMP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VXM2W555X501RVTSE1KF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Let's go some double 0 10th scale
What camera do you use for those close chases?
GoPro
After you get your build worked out I would like to know if your opinion changes. My first crawler was two beat down 10.2's. I gutted, took the best parts each had and built one. I was excited until I took it to a comp. It sucked! I had no idea how to properly tune/set-up. After much research, several adjustments it did pretty good. I added a few more upgrades, learned some more and now it is a beast. Good video!
Yeah. Learning and progressing is all part of the fun.
What if you use the rtr electronic into your build car?
Don’t bring logic into this!!
I like to have something everyone else typicality don’t have so I more or the build rout but there are a couple car I want to and will buy. But I know the car I build I will love the most because my work and personality went into it.
Hello I would like to know where you found the mst rmx 2.0 I can’t find it anywhere @Pleasure Tek
I bought it at my local hobby shop.
@@10thScaleGarage thanks for the fast reply love the content keep it up
Did you fix the tire rubbing? Mines like that too
On the MST? Nope. It sounds/ looks worse than it is.
@@10thScaleGarage I meant on the sakura
Looking at building an rc drift car, a proper one I mean, what chassis and electronics would you recommend?
Ask KpopRC. He’s the man and can point you in a way better direction than I can.
It depends whats your budget
What drift box is in the Sakura? And are you guys running sensored? I built mine, all I had was a radio laying around and I was roughly $610 shipped to my door. I budget built myself, besides esc and car. I have the yokomo yd-2 e and I love it! Do you guys have an instagram as well?
What light kit is this for the rmx I wanna do the same light kit for mine
I would greatly appreciate it if you told me I just don’t wanna buy some that are horrible
Not a light kit. Just some LEDs I had laying around that I put on a receiver plug.
where do i buy one!
My 3D printed conversion of Sprint2 drifts better or the sample in the beginning…the other mst’s go really nicely though and rip…🤔
Eyo 2wd drift gang, they do be addicting I got 3 😬
cool video, I wanna get a drift car,
Doooo it
Dooooo it.
@@10thScaleGarage so I don't have a place to drive it, so I wanna rent a location to use and get others into the hobby,
Actually the mst rmx 2.0 is a pretty good rtr chassis out of the box, not that a built chassis is bad but the Sakura d4 is a tricky chassis to tune. From what I heard the Sakura d4 is terrible out of the box and needs a lot of tuning to get right so it's bad for beginners but okay for pros and experienced drivers. I could recommend you the Sakura D5 or D5mr instead since I had a fun experience with it while I was still a little new to this advanced drifting stuff and it's one of the cheapest drift chassis out there. (make sure it's the d5v2 or d5mr) or if u want a good chassis that's extremely versatile go for the reveD RDX but it's pricier than the d5. Yokomo yd2 series is better than the d5 and has tuning potential but it's around the rdx level but the RDX has a prefixed tune as turnbuckles are locked when out of the box but very versatile anyways. It really just depends on what chassis you bought and stuff and whether it's a good chassis or a bad chassis, any chassis can be good with a lot of tuning. (I know this comment is really long but hopefully this can at least let u know about rc drift chassis a little more in general)
I like to do both
Woul be interesting for someone to put a stock MST on a setup gauge + 4wheel scale. See what the camber, toe, weight distribution, etc… is.
someone did, i just watched it.. all i remember is its around 60/40 rear bias and very close to 50/50 side to side with a battery
Thanks for this video!
By the way you can upgrade the MST but good luck getting any parts I own one Drive lines for the Active toe have been on back order for three months. Rear ESC mount 4 1/2 months. Not to mention the electronics that come in it are absolute garbage so the very first thing you will be upgrading will be the Gyro and servo. So in the long run the MST is going to cost you three times more than just building a kit.
If you build it they will come.✌🏾👊🏾👍🏾
Como se llama este disco 1.38
I want to see the led diy
I thought the r34 was the cheep one on first look but I was wrong aha nice cars tho
White car needs tuning. Component and gyro placement/ settings can drastically alter a car.
When I built my d5 it was undriveable but a bit of tweaking to battery and gyro position and settings and now it drives great
Let me send it to you. Haha.
9 months later, maybe better tires, yokomo is a good go to. hot motor and wires but cool esc, possibly gearing
where did you get the r34 from ??
My local hobby shop. It’s an MST RMX2.0.
I rather wait don’t buy cheap electronics and rtr. Buy nice kit and electronics the results will be amazing! And it will be more enjoyable. At the end you’ll be ending up buying upgrades to make the kit more drivable ending up costing more. Just my own opinion
It’s more about the experience than the cost for me personally. I like upgrading as I learn.
@@10thScaleGarage I think it's best to get some baseline good electronics for the chassis at least cuz if u run too cheap on em it's completely undrivable like what you've shown😅 I've been through that and it's hell lol. U should get a shorty 2s lipo from what I noticed ur using a tiny pack that looks like it should be on a transmitter. I'm not sure what's the esc and motor ur using but ur gyro seems fine(hopefully it's compatible with the servo).
Anyways the chassis ur using is the worst platform for starters(the Sakura D4)😅 I suggest getting the Sakura D5v2/D5mr(they resolved the problems the d4 had and made it better), Yokomo YD2 series and Reved RDX(new) to really start on to get the best starting experience and improve upon that
Sorry it didn’t work out. Building can be a risk. My first build(Zmt-10) turned out to be a real let down and money pit. 💩
Looks great though. 👌
Let’s get back to SCT’s and the track!
I’d love to get to the track. Might be a couple months though. It’s crazy cold here.
interesting i had this question for the couple of days :))) i am more street driveing :P
The Sakura d5 is a way better improvement over the d4. The mst is a great car out of the box. Best thing to do is practice. Cool cars none the less!
Is the telemetry on on your controller? That is how mine acts with it on.
Yup
In 1:1 built not bought all the way but in rc i just don't know enough to make built good yet
Try sakura D5V2.. With the correct electronics.. I have mst and sakura d5v2, i love sakura more then mst..
Does anyone have a video of this exact Amazon chassis that drift good with just tuning out the box?
Not that I’ve seen so far. I know a couple guys on Instagram that have pretty sorted D4s
I just got the same one and can't this thing to drive with out spinning out lol. Can't even adjust the alignment properly cause the parts on it won't let me.
@@dereklourenco5787 what gyro are you using?
Not sure. I'm new to the rc world. It came with my controller. Radiolink R6FG v4
Update on my son's RMX: picked up Hobby Fans esc/motor combo, upgraded gyro, new body (AE86), magnetic body kit, and finally new wheels=completely new car!!
Nice!
@@10thScaleGarage thanks!! Also added a Flysky GT3B thanks to your video 👍
Send the D4 for setup to an Rc drift shop. but usually for beginners just buy it RTR.
If we had one anywhere close, I’d consider it. Plus, I don’t think they can do anything I can’t do.
The problem of your custom build is the gyro and servo combo...Just buy a Futaba GYD450 gyro and a ReveD RS-ST servo,your car will drastically improve in handling and maintaining beautiful drifts..
Good call.
You should make that the fast and furious car like the truck
Which one??
The blue one
You have traction control on duuhhhhh
We prefer built 😉
Yes Carl. I know……
I feel your pain with the D4 bro, in prettymuch the same place with mine, bit less cash into it but just as bad handling even after hours of fiddling and watching tips n tuning vids, wheel spacers to stop the front binding up, bit less rear toe, and why the hell is the chassis too long to fit any body properly? rear wheels all shoved back in the wheel arches, I mean cmon..
Agreeeeeeeee
You're gonna continue to spend hours and just waist time if you have the money buy a Yokomo yd2 e or s but if your on a budget get the Sakura d5 its 100 times better then the d4
@@THROWEDDRIFT yo thanks for the advice Rheandel 👍 think ima save for the yd2 e/s, lost faith in 3racing abit 🙄
this looks like an I am 4mins in that the MST was dialed in. the D4 isn't also a fair comparison to the RMX 2.0 in the sense the D4 is a previous Gen behind the RMX in this case
second issue your using a spectrum in this test.
another issue I am seeing is you haven't tuned the chassis. D4's need to be dialed in extensively and really have alot of adjustability that make the tuning of the car a big part of it. you should have gotten a D5 and dialed that in tbh, especially when you already are using budget electronics it would at least make tuning easier and while it would be not as adjustable it would at least make more sense to compare to a Rmx especially at the price point.
also looking into drifting this isn't a particularly easy hobby at definitely a hard and sharp learning curve. like your probably don't even realize it but your RMX is Waaaaaaaaaaayy out of wack from the looks of it your steering in the front is janky and needs to be walked in as the front needs to be able to lead the rear. RC drifting is a culmination of alot of aspects in drifting and unless you have people who can properly tune your chassis and teach you you will be in a difficult rut and have a very bad day. this shouldn't discourage someone though it is alot like skating where you kinda need to really keep pushing the boundaries of what you don't know further and futher away as you learn more and more and while it has a aggressive learning curve it just means this isn't a hobby for everyone and thats pretty cool.
why not go ALL OUT and make a front wheel drive drift car? I would like to see that myself
Someday.
Hey budd awesome video as aways. I cnt drift worth a damn lol but I am worlds greatest crasher loli like both built an bought
I’m right there with ya!
@@10thScaleGarage if I had the cash that I have spent in bodys an broken parts I could probably buy a xmaxx lol
MST makes some good kits though😬
There cool but the 4wd drifting is for me. ;)
I’m wayyyyyy better at 4WD drifting.
Dumb down that wheel speed. See if that does it
Few major things id say is that. You didnt get a legit sakura d4. You got a fully alloyed out chinese copy. While this looks great the out box set up is TERRIBLE.
Another big thing would be gyro placement. Try moving it to the back and see if that helps catching the drifts.
For tires id try using the ones from the mst.
Maybe mess with battery placement or atleast just hold it down.
Rather drive than build
just build a yokomo yd2sx3 proper setup is key
I can do that with my 4x4 rustler on 6s. No traction at all haha
Ha! I had a segment where I drifted the whole thing with my Losi Baja Rey but I cut it out.
@@10thScaleGarage dang you should of left it in haha
Pretty sure its just tires bro, those tires obviously had traction issues, you could see the car fail to steer at all on a few attempts and just plow straight on forward.
I agree, but for some reason I feel like the tires are too soft??? They certainly feel softer than the tires on my MST or any of the tires on my AWD drifters.
Can I get one
Yes.
600 vs 400 I rather get bought over built cause why build something crappy for more money I don’t get it
When I was 3 year old I wanted the Lexus rcf RC car now I am 12 still i don't have it
*150th like*
Dude what kind of cheep ass ali express Chinese knock off bottom of the cereal box free with a coupon camera are you using?
Learn how set up and tune the kit. If you're a complete beginner, go to a hobby shop let them tune your kit then do a comparison video, it's more entertaining and informative that way than just make a comparison without utter knowledge of what you're doing.
too much throttle and too grippy tyres i think
The MST is definitely better in terms of usability and utility, but overall I always follow the best quote I ever heard. I'd rather lose a race in a car I built then win a race in a car I bought.
But the Lexus looks 10x cooler XD
Sakura chasis just drive like dookie 😂
Word.
I don't think the car is the whole issue here.
Yeah. We have zero clue what we’re doing.
#first
omg PLEASE image stabalize the rc footage. i dont wanna throw up watching this video but damnit man its hard to watch