Should You Now Join The Marines Over The Army??
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- If you believe that the Army is going soft now, should you choose to join the Marines over the Army?? Good question.
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I was a Marine infantry platoon commander in the '70s. My guys thought they were tough until we spent a day with Recon. They showed us that we couldn't keep up and that we weren't as tough as we thought we were. Each branch has their elite and then their regular guys who are just a reflection of society at large. Marines have Recon and now Raiders, Navy has Seals, Army has Rangers and Green Berets, Air Force has their Parajumpers, Coast Guard has Rescue Swimmers. All these have endured physical and mental stress that would break most people. So all this talk about which branch is toughest is just a bunch of baloney.
Yep. It generally depends more on MOS, unit type and individual than it does on branch, though I do appreciate the USMC's efforts to instill an infantry-ish ethic in its non-infantry MOS. People often seem averse to nuanced, or even worse, dichotomous, reality; most people seem to prefer simple, binary illusions. -- a former US Army parachute infantry light weapons sergeant...who jumped a 110-lbs. ruck into the pitch-black and then humped it 20 or 30 miles over mountains and through swamps on a regular basis
Oh, Really devil dog? YOU BETTER THINK AGAIN! SEMPER FIDELIS....
@@user-uk9ji8hx4z Yeah really.
@@rickbarnes7745 😒 unlike yourself I’ve served in 2 other branches besides The USMC. And trust me the rumors are true. Semper..
@@user-uk9ji8hx4z If that's true, then the standards in the other branches must be pretty low. In the '70s the Marine Corps was pretty bad; low morale, widespread drug use, and constant UA. Just about every week we would bring the dogs through the barracks or even to formation before we went out in the field, and we would catch guys with weed. I spent more time dealing with disciplinary issues than I did training my Marines for combat. It was horrible. Part of the reason for that I believe is that the court system was giving offenders the option of enlisting in the Corps or going to jail. In our drug and anti-authoritarian state we couldn't have beaten a den of cub scouts in a war. Just to correct your assertation, both my Dad and my oldest brother were in the Army and my next oldest brother was in the Air Force. None of them could match my description of the problems we had. Even as a Navy midshipman aboard a destroyer in 1972, I didn't notice the bad attitude in the Navy that I experienced later in my battalion. I don't mean to dis the Marines, but I think for the most part they are full of themselves with their cocky attitude. Getting yelled at louder than the other services in boot camp does not make you a better warrior.
Doesn’t matter what branch you are in. you are still serving, you still bleed red.
Touching
Yes it does
But the thing is, one is bleeding from a paper cut from a SHARP meeting attendance form, and the other is bleeding from two slaps from a DI and a IED...
Still a a vet still a warrior still American
@@justinnewcomb2279 : To be honest, I would rather be bleeding from a paper cut over getting slapped or getting blown up.
As a Marine, I must say I respect your honesty and candidness when speaking of the Army's new basic training schedule and guidelines. Each branch makes fun of each other, but in a cousinly way of course. And if it's a "shark attack" you guys that are thinking about going in truly want, the Marine Corps will give you 13 weeks of it every single day... Semper Fun
Yeah, my drills at Benning were all just former combat-experienced paratroopers, rangers and Special Forces, they were teddy bears. =] Branch talk is meaningless. MOS and unit types are what matters. -- a former parachute infantry light weapons sergeant
As a Marine Veteran of the 1970s When I was discharged I held 5 MOS and spent time TAD to STA PLT. My family has been in every WAR since 1777 with the ARMY. FEELS GOOD TO PUSH MY FAMILIES EXPECTATIONS OF ME.
EITHER WAY IT'S ARMY OR MARINES IF YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR METAL.
As a Marine myself, I respect all branches we are all in it together. However, the Marine Corps is not like it used to be as well.
If the shark attack is what you truly want... LOL
I don’t think it’s a matter of being soft or not, I think the army is just doing what they can to make sure they keep up the numbers.
Joining the military isn’t something a lot of young people are into nowadays, so the army just wants to make sure those that actually do want to join will get in...no matter if they should be able to join or not lol, but I’ve met plenty of folks who shouldn’t be in the military who are, so it is what it is I guess.
Gotta do what you gotta do to keep those numbers up lol
I’m 14, and I have talked to my friends, Gen Z has a sentiment against the military, seeing it as a punishment etc. I think it’s just that most of us didn’t grow up with 9/11 being so recently, a lot of us don’t understandz
yes accurate fUtURE sOlDiER here
True, nobody ever wants to talk to the recruiters when they come to my school and it's not like it's just the scary Army and Marine recruiters, basically every branch including their respective guard or reserve counter parts come to and they get barley anybody.
That's really fucking depressing and quite scary.
@Matthew R. Mendez Really sucks to say it but all great nations eventually do fall.
You should go for the Army if:
-You want to become a mechanic, or some sort of engineer.
-You want to do artillery or any field stuff.
-You want to be a Green Beret or a Ranger.
You should join the Navy if:
-You are a tech nerd.
-You like the sea.
-You want to be surrounded by a very traditional military culture.
-You like submarines and nukes.
You should go for the Air Force if:
-You are tech nerd.
-You like office jobs.
-You like the sky and space.
-You like luxury.
-You like nuclear weapons.
You should join the Marine Corps if:
-Your main objective is to be in the battleground.
-You like Brotherhood.
-You want to wear that luxurious uniform.
-You want to join one of the most challenging branch in the entire world.
Don’t join for these dress blues, barely wear em lol
@@davewave2d2 😂😂
@RF 😂😂😂. The Space Force is very far from being that. Maybe in the future when they get a bigger budget.
i mean i plan to join the military but i mean i guess i am kinda nerdy but the sea is not for me
i mean i could join Airforce since i'm kinda a nerd but it kinda seems wrong i'm in a nice safe cozy place while my brothers and sisters are dying so most likely ill end up in the marine
To take something old Jocko said on his podcast. You shouldn't join a branch or job because of how hard or how cool the training is, it should be because you want to do that job. At the end of the day I'm going to join the army (national guard) because it's what fits my life and what I want to do. Hopefully I can help elevate those around me to meet the proper fitness requirements lol
I should have done this lol I joined the marines and I got screwed over by my recruiter I got open contract if I could go back I would’ve switched to the Air Force cause I could have gotten the job I wanted over there
I ended up going navy I got a builder contract so ima be able to experience some “army things” and I want the construction experience for when I get out
And I guess that is one of the reasons why USMC has the worst retention rate out of all military branches.
Good luck brother.
@@JA-qs7jm did you join the navy to experience army things? Because Troy could’ve done engineering/construction in the army and done actually army things
The USMC is changing a lot too. They just handed over all their tanks to the army, and they're restructuring to reflect the Marine Corps of the 80s
Hell yea, all new boots get a beat down! Charley Horses for earning bloodstripes, no backing on chevrons!
But they are getting suppressors and a new rifle
the marines is being pussy now
They also are eliminated the MP MOS
Nah
I guess it’s time for me to enlist with my beer belly I’ll pass basic training with flying colors
Lol you’re funny, you will get shipped to Alaska and sent on a 4mi run on ice at 6am in the morning 😉. It’s fun join buddy
timothee yappi im doing reserves buddy. I’ll go back home right after tech school. You can have fun in Alaska 🤣
@@timotheeyappi3641 that sounds kinda cool. Alaska is dope.
I,v thought about joining the Marines, but with me being as out of shape as I am, I probably wouldn't make it past basic training. Plus, the army has more influence in the civilian world, and their dress uniforms look more handsome in my opinion.
@@timotheeyappi3641 I'm already in Alaska less goo
All branches are going down this path. Marines recently lowered IOT physical requirements so a woman could finally pass it.
Which is so stupid women should have the same requirements as men
@@Hlooaooaoa women: want equality
also women: ok now lower the requirements for me because I'm weaker
@@noven8259 lmao fr
@@Hlooaooaoa all it’s doing is weakening our military. We have standards for a reason
@@Hlooaooaoa The requirements for all branches should be unisex and by MOS. The job dictates the requisite abilities. -- a former parachute infantry light weapons sergeant
Dude this was like perfect timing with my thoughts.
Fuckin felt
Yeah fax bro in fact im going to talk to a Marine Recruiter in like 20 minutes😂. Gonna weigh my options between Army and Crayons
I swear 😂
What did you decide to do
I’m stuck on the army but leaning towards marines such a touch choice to me
I have 7 days to go take my Asvab wish me luck fellows
Update I pass so I don’t have to wait 6 month to retake it however my GT score was off by 3point so I’m going take it again
Good luck! I took mine today and passed.
Big tip is to guesstimate a lot in the math portion if you're not good at it, you'll be surprised how good you can do by simply using common sense, eliminating obvious wrong answers and guessing as close as possible, I was ass at math my whole life and really almost every subject since I was more into athletics and didn't care for school work, and ended up somehow passing the asvab with an 82, make sure to focus up on the reading portion, and same with assembling objects, make sure you're super zoned in. Good luck!
Good luck brother
@@fabiolito28 this is actually helpful considering the math is what is making me panic about the asvab
@@c.j.4357 congrats
Future privates won't know the pain of Shark Attack or the fear of failing the ACFT or APFT
The First 100 Yards is still difficult and from what I saw, they basically add the traditional Shark Attack in at the very end of it. But yeah, not having to be worried about the ACFT/APFT is a big change
But you will have to be able to pass when you get to your Unit, so, Noobs should NOT think they are getting over.
You can't fail anything anylonger in the military.
shuttttt up 😂😂😂 u haven’t seen half of the stuff marine rcts go through when the cameras are off
I spent 8 years in the Marines. It is a small organization. Promotion is harder. The average retirement rank is E-7 for Enlisted and O-4 for Officers (if you are exceptional) The army is E-8 and O-5. That is what you need to look at if you pla guysn to stay 20 years. In the end, the health benefits of 20 years is what's important. Think it through
Does that mean the Marines better?
The 20 year deal isn't offered anymore. Its 401K only now.
I would not recommend marines or Air Force to a recruit due to the smaller budgets and opportunities. I was in the navy long ago. Currently, I am impressed by the opportunities the army offers
Thank you for helping inspire me to join the Army in the coming years, and aiding in my plan to prepare to apply for West Point!
100% Agree with you @MattWard
I thought everyday during basic and AIT I wished I had joined the marines due to their professionalism, discipline and high standards. Today I’m 11B and my unit is pretty good so I’m okay.. for now... but I am trying to commission. God willing I can influence what we do at least at my company level
going to jackson this monday and nervous as hell
You will be fine! Enjoy your last week as a civilian :)
You got this I'll be right behind you re-enlisting soon. Matt I saw one of your comments saying there is an intense waiver process you weren't lying. I got dequaled the first time re-enlisted because of my gums never had I had too get a waiver at MEPS. I fixed my gums and it's still taking forever. Takes a hell of a lot of patience. My original MOS was 19D. Switching from Combat too POG. Why? Because I can. Plus I want a job that transfers well too the civilian world for when I get out. So I'm trying too hit Paralegal and I'm hoping too re-enlist before November 17th. Praying too God on that one because then I may not be able too go paralegal because I'll have too retake the ASVAB. Don't wanna do that.
Same here man! I don’t ship until the 27th, but Meps wants me there the 26th.
Dw dude the hardest part is thinking about how long it’s gonna feel. Just graduated a month ago and am in AIT now. Basic is easy you just have to not think about how far out graduation is and think about your task at hand and that day.
Best of luck!
I think what the CSM is trying to do with "The First Hundred Yards" is get new recruits from the start working as team. Also getting them in the mindset to accomplish a mission with little guidances. One task is they will given a mission to complete with mishap on the way. I think the CSM idea with this is to build more confident recruits from day one.
I'm sitting at meps right now already swore for the marine corps. Yall wish me luck
You answer every question I have about joining the military! 😂
Hopefully the army rangers aren’t taking things easy like the big army...
2 women standards were lower to become a ranger, yep even rangers are taking things easy
A platoon of army rangers just got one of those bad charge like things, for being injured in training. And the sgt.major in charge isn’t even a ranger himself.
@@sethheaddress2651 state your source. All rangers are required to go through rasp so I call BS
@@militaryjunkie6207 that’s ranger school
If you want to deploy more frequently, spend a lot of time in the field, shoot your rifle all the time, and basically live out that title of Soldier or Marine, I would suggest an Army Airborne Infantry contract, or a Marine Infantry contract. If you want to do "hardcore" stuff and you have the correct mindset, personality, determination, Intelligence, physical fitness level, and you are comfortable in the water then I would suggest getting a contract for a Special operations or a Special operations capable unit (Ranger,18-X,PJ,SOWT, SWCC,SEAL,Recon, etc). Outside of that the Marine Corps has higher standards, and the Army has better funding. I will say this, if you join the Marines and want to change your branch of service after 1 enlistment you can keep your rank and skip basic training, if you want to join the Marines after another branch of service you will start all over again. All of the branches have their pros and cons, if you are thinking about joining and stumble across this comment do some serious research.
Been in the Army 15 year can tell you been in too. I would add that the Army has a huge variety of jobs some of which might as well be another branch all together when you compare what your lifestyle will be like. For example right now I'm an AGR 79V its basically a 9 to 5 Civilian desk job. If I compare that to when I first joined attached to an artillery unit it like night and day.
I graduated BCT about 3 weeks ago and am at AIT. Thank you for all of your content as it made me feel like I was better prepared for basic and made basic "easier" for me. Thank you -PFC Mackes
I was trying to join the military at the beginning of the year, thrilled I didn't now.
Thank you so much for the information and I wish you the best congratulations in 200k!💪🏻💪🏻
In week 12 in osut infantry I’m watching this on pass my platoon are getting there assignments right now
After getting out of the Marines in 17’, seeing how much has changed and how soft it essentially has gotten. Then jumping ship to the Army, with an open mind and no expectations, I see more soldiers getting smoked and leaders utilizing corrective action through pain more often here then I’ve seen when I was last in the Corps. Overall, the Army isn’t as soft as people think. But that depends on your MOS as well. I went in 09’ mcrd sd, itb, hit the fleet and getting fucked up bu your team leader was a thing. Then pro 13’, things changed. Army infantry, is about where you’ll see soldiers get worked. My rant, but thought I’d share
Thank you
Appreciate the candor, brother. -- a former 11B2P
Damn. When I was in leadership never used physical exercise as corrective action. They just counseled everyone and gave everyone Article 15s. Lol. It was an MP unit though and they were weak as hell so paperwork was their go to.
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Leaving for marine basic the 15th. just want to say thanks for the videos really good information you are putting out and i bet it helps a lot of people.
@@user-kd8cq6nm5f boot camp or everything since?
When you hit your line unit, especially combat arms, the tempo of training and the overall mindset will be high tempo regardless of what the temp rules on the ACFT and shark attack are. I would focus on the end game when your training is done and you start to apply what you have learned in that environment and what you need to learn from your squad / platoon leaders /NCO’s. Just my humble words to help...
I ship to benning in 13 days Matt!! You really inspired me to push through the intense waiver process, thanks a ton.
Glad I could help and congrats!!!
I just left OSUT from Fort Benning 6 days ago!! We were one of the last cycles to get the shark attack
I ship in 5 days. Super excited and these videos have definitely helped
Los Santos 30th AG is hell 2 months for alot of people before you start basic
What was the waiver for?
I ship out to San Antonio in February! You're a huge help Matt! Thanks 👍
Great video man, Thanks for uploading this! The pt ban is bizarre to even think about I’ve always loved the Marine corps and Army still do just concerned with their decision making right now hopefully the corps don’t go down that route to if we wanted that we’d join the Air Force or navy😂
Imo the applicants should be worried about getting in instead of who is tougher....😒
It’s not very rewarding if it’s just given to you.
@@benjamingarcia2282 it’s not hard to get in
@@benjamingarcia2282 what is given? Every branch has to go through an initial training. People quit from all branches. You can find a video of a prior airman bad mouthing the Air Force because he didn’t have a good time. They’re all designed for you to pass. If you want to challenge yourself you need to go to 2x or higher volunteer units. Rasp/sfas/buds/marsoc/recon etc. initial training, ANY Branch is designed for people to pass.
My body feel like an 80 years old man, after 4 years of fateful service in the Corps. Both knees aching out of nowhere, sharp pain when walking up stairs, back just hurt out of nowhere sometimes, tinnitus (go death for a few seconds), left wrist hurt when lifting heavy weight due to the fact from holding my rifle so much.
Been watching your channel for a few years now. Finally shipping on Monday to FT Sill! Your videos kept me well informed so thank you for that.
Ft. Sill. Home of the Field Artillery. King of Battle.
Benigno Briones III Haha yeah. MOS is 13m
@@Angelv93 I was a 13B. Good times. Word of advice, just because you no longer have to pass the APFT to graduate basic, pass it anyway. It will look better on you when you get to your unit station. Good luck to you.
Benigno Briones III Thank you. I appreciate that and I will definitely do that.
I’m in the reserves and you are right. Lucky I passed my acft with flying colors. I do hate the sprint drag and carry though holy crap. That one is rough!
I got to Marine Boot in January, a little late for me but nice vid!
How was it?
I really hope that the army releases what their doing and doesn't make this permanent
200K!! Well done, Lieutenant!!🇺🇸👏🏽👍🏿
Yooo man!!! I just want to say thanks. Your videos helped me to join the Army. I'm currently in the reserves. Again thank you!!!
It's upsetting what is happening to the Army but I'm still joining it because it's always been my favorite branch, it's history is my favorite to read about, and I'm not turning away from that because of things that might be changing. Hopefully I get a run in the mill BCT experience like my cousin (who says that he's always getting shark attacked at Fort Polk). Great video tho, Matt. 82nd airborne here I come!!!
I want to join the airborne
@@ssww3 hey man, I'm in the 82nd Airborne and I love it. And coming in, there was none of this PC crap lol. You should go for it.
Update?
I'm 38 talking to a recruiter to join the army thinking about reserves. As a older person I agree that stress like shark attack stress etc do get ppl use to think under pressure etc and combat. I think that softing up things wouldn't be bad as long it's the quality of training .
Did you join. I thought about joining the Army at 42 but the window closed on me. I am retiring from the Navy Reserves and I would say that active is better especally as a older perosn do to VA benefits at retirment.
I ship to benning nov. 16 MOS 11B. Used your videos for lots of guidance thanks a lot!
Lemme tell you how basic training is nowadays. I graduated from Infantry OSUT back in July, and from my experience and talking with a bunch of other guys in different companies it really depends on your company and drill sgt’s. You are trained to the army’s standard which isn’t very hard, but your also trained to your drill sgt’s standard. If you have 3 drill sgt’s all from places like 82nd, 101st, and 10th mountain you best believe your gonna earn that blue cord. All these old army heads keep saying “oh it’s all sunshine and rainbow, you guys got it easy” except OSUT for infantry is much longer now which just leaves time for more smoking and it’s more focused on tactics now which a lot of these old army guys couldn’t comprehend with a GT score of a highschool freshman.
Well, I graduated OSUT at Benning over 20 years ago...and my ASVAB was 99, so...I get it. I tell everyone that being infantry is, was and always will be hard. That said, OSUT of any duration is like a vacation compared to life in a light or parachute infantry company. Though you might well understand that now. =] Hang in there, little brother. Never stop putting one foot in front of another. You now carry our honor. -- a former 11B2P
Going to marine boot camp in a couple months! So pumped!
I leave for BCT in about 6 months. The thing that bums me out the most is that the shark attack is a right of passage and now I won't get to go through that. I'm not saying it would be pleasant, but still.
Best bet is talk to each branches recruiters, and do a ton of research on your own and see what's best for you in your personal situation! Army offered the most for me
When I went through Basic in summer 1985 we were told if we did not pass the PT test we would be recycled. That's all I needed to hear and I maxed the pushed ups sit ups and ran my best time ever. It seems the Army is replacing the PT test in Basic with the PC test.
Joining the corps is a HUGE commitment. WE ARE DIFFERENT in a variety of ways. Our standards are high and most people can't adjust. Thats why a lot of people can't make it through boot camp.
Fact. I met a lot of Marines that finished boot camp and felt as though they had “made it”. Boot is the easiest part of your entire military career, it only gets harder and more is expected of you.
@@offspectrum5737 I was in boot camp in 05. Non hackers were sent home or they refused to train and just dropped.
90% pass.
@@thefrozzie5970 Not in 2005 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seargent AR-10 about the same amount of people graduate bootcamp through out all branches
2020 : -Army removes ACFT as requirements to pass BCT-
2025 : -Army removes BCT to become a soldier
Lol stay mad at a joke
RESPECT for both Branches the U.S. Army is still Down! Long live 82nd airbourne and please believe it has it's hardcore members don't get it TWISTED . and USMC is not for everybody please believe that as well .
Exactly what I've been thinking about when I was in Basic
I’m shipping out to Fort Jackson in 18 days! Wish me luck :)
good luck bro im shipping out there on June 28th
You don’t need luck LoL, you’re going to summer camp
@@Fdesouza lol sounds good
@@elbynacosta1031 Good luck to you as well man! 🤟🏻
Best of luck dude. You'll be fine
imo, the army is always adapting and I feel like it is doing all this to make it easier and more persuading for gen z to join up.
I am Generation Z. I wish the military would stay the military. People don’t understand the commitment the military is. They think it will be easy and want the army to make things cushy. In war you don’t get a hotel.
@@saltycelery2045 💯
Wish the military would stay the same too
There doing this cause every year less and less enlist
Just finished BCT and now headed to DLI. We literally got transportation on the Forge... BCT was not what I was expecting whatsoever and frankly I was extremely disappointed with my experience at BCT
Monterey is wonderful. I never wanted to leave. =/ -- a former 11B2P
I shipped to Ft Leonard Wood May 11th. No shark attack or anything like that because COVID was huge at the time, and they pushed through pretty much anybody, even people who couldn’t pass a PT test
If you join the Marine Corps stand by for everyone E-4 and above to tell you how it used to be. "It used to be harder, the Corps got soft", "You have no clue what we used to have to go through", "Mothers of America is taking over the Marine Corps". Even though you will think you have accomplished something amazing, no one else will see it that way. Have fun boots!
I heard they got rid of combatives. That was what had me most excited when I was joining. I ship out on the 26th for basic now I’m almost regretting joining the army
Haha same here man
I ship Jan 1st, but I'm not confident they'll bring things back by then
I can give you first hand experience on basic training. Things are changing and it's for the best.
Things won't be back to normal until the army gets a vaccine for covid 19
@milky onion I think the basic training portion is still on, but I’m talking about the combatives program like the MMA training and tournaments you can do after basic and AIT.
Just graduated bct from Lenordwood! Ready for HBL, I think everyone needs a break from this mess
Finally subscribed just to get you to your 200k
I’m in the process of leaving to the army to hopefully become a dog handler or a cav scout then try to go to ranger school and rasp. Although after hearing about all the changes it’s concerning that I’m not gonna be getting the full training I thought I was gonna get
Dog handler is not an MOS and cav scouts can’t go to RASP unless they are reclassing.
I just had my interview with my recruiter it went great I’m entering DEP but im so excited I appreciate u and ur channel so much dude!
Congrats on 200k bro
congrats on the 200k
Every generation thinks their time was tougher, etc. my Grandpa would laugh at today’s USMC boot camp, which he was actually forced to endure like many others. The military gets more sophisticated with every generation. I still challenge any other generation to beat today’s military. We would smoke them. And I want my kids to be able to smoke me.
I got 4 weeks left than I'll be in 2 weeks of quarantine than it's off to P.I Oorah 💪🏾🇺🇸💯
In case you're reading this message: Most enlistments are around 4 years of service. Don't join because the first 3 months of bootcamp/basic training is easier or harder, you have at least 3.5 years left in your time, thats what matters more.
I just graduated basic training less than a month ago and I went to fort leonard wood which is ranked one of the hardest training centers and we actually had somewhat of a shark attack. Now the P.T. test we did have to pass.
i leave for leonard wood on monday 😳
Baby Union just call me hombre marioso let's open grande
@@CarmenRodriguez-lm5di Not to sound rude or anything, but what you just said made zero sense.
I wanted MP MARINE but I got into a trade school where am learning welding but now when am finish with welding school am gonna go for marine recon
Nothing about the army soft even with the shark attack removal.
I just graduated from Ft. Jackson Delta Co. 2-39 (formerly alpha co first) last Thursday. They did a "shark attack" but not up in our faces. But they still literally yelled at you up close anyways! It was still kinda tough tho bit I still made it and even broke over 500 in the acft.
Went through basic not long ago , they my have said it went away but it’s definitely still being done
I hope this is not a negative comment Matt, but the people who claim that any branch is soft are so ignorant. Most of the folks who come in to service are young and immature at times, and the transformation they go through to become soldiers should never be laughed at. For example, I joined the army at age 19, and before that I never did anything athletic because I was just a book person. I had to work out and get ready three months before BCT and still I was far from perfect. The point from the PT test is not to point blank fail you but see you improve slowly. When I got out of BCT I was able to score 289 and still improving a year and half later. THE POINT is that not all people are the same and Army along other branches do their thing depending on demanding the type of work you do and that is not to say that we are soft. In fact, I have seen people from the coast guard who are more physically fit and mentally ready than those from the Army or the Marines. Now, there is no argument that the Marines are more strict because they are usual the first ones out in a battle, however, this is not say that the other branches are slower or less qualified.
hoping to join the marines in summer of 2021 once i graduate from high school
I'm leaving tomorrow for basic and I'm quite sad that I won't get to experience the shark attack and that they took away combatos. Wish I would have joined a year ago
5:37 I agree, and even though you have to do what your superior say I think with the problem with that is that sometimes those in higher rank abuse their power like theres a difference to being a Leader and someone abusing it like they're trying to be a dictator, the I can do no wrong and the what do my superior need so I can get promoted mentality
Just got commissioned in the marines
Matt I’ve always wanted to join the marines I want a challenge
If you wanted a challenge you’d volunteer for a spec ops units. All initial training, bootcamp included, is designed for you to pass. What do you think is challenging about usmc bootcamp? Is getting yelled at difficult for you? Do you get scared when people yell at you?
As a recent army veteran, I'd say yes. Unless you become a ranger, or some other serious combat MOS
Parachute infantry hasn't changed. It never will. -- a former 11B2P
Leaving for Ft. Benning January 4th / 19D Cav Scout 👌🏼
I kept thinking during my basic training Aug 11-Oct. 22 this year, “this must be a joke” it was literally so easy, it just felt like a JROTC summer camp
My buddy went airforce while I went Marines, his description
It was like P.E.
He got a suite and cafeteria which are amazing. I shared a room and ate in a chowhall.
I got out of the Army over 55 yers ago. But, let me put it to you like this. When I was in, the Marines were known as a bunch of pimple face loud mouths who were in the way and always got ther asses kicked and handed to them by other banches. Then they were always biting off more than they could chew, and we (the Army) were called on more than I can remember to come and save their asses.
can i send you a 1st ad patch?? i was watching your channel before i joined, and here i am now in fort bliss
Shipping out November 10th Fort Sill sucks there changing all this I wanted the authentic experience.
Won’t lie I considered going to the marines all the way up to the moment I swore in. Also congrats on 200K!
Thanks!
@@silvernight7667 I’m sure the army will see great soldiers joining in the future. Your statement is pretty ridiculous actually.
Considered?
Lord help us! Meanwhile, our adversries are staying hard and when they meet us on the battlefield they don't care about feelings! I went through Fort Benning, 1990 Infantry (OSUT). After Basic and AIT, In Germany, my mindset and most of my peers was we were ready to meet the Russians on the battlefield even if I we were just a speed bump..
=] 1990. 1/50, Sand Hill. Co. D, 1/507, Main Post. 3/8, Lee Barracks, Mainz. 3/17, Planet Ord. -- a former 11B2P
Just graduated basic from ft jackson. I'm currently in AIT at fort benning. I'm very disappointed of how basic was. It was LITERALLY too easy. I honesty should have joined the marines. 😤
I just graduated bct and honestly it felt like a summer camp. The shark attack wasn’t completely removed, it depended on your company. I had a super laid back company so no real shark attack. You had to pass 3/6 events to qualify for the forge/graduate or you got recycled. Covid eliminated lots due to covid; no liberty city, also no full obstacle courses. If you are a weaker individual that’s going into a soft MOS you’ll be fine but if you want hardcore go marines
Ohhhh that's some bs.
Prior service Marine here from 2007-2011. Going into the Army and leaving for OSUT March 22. I've already proved how tough I am once. I'll take the soft Army now thanks lol. In all seriousness, cutting back on the basic training mind fuckery is a bad idea.
Lol...hope you ended up in a parachute infantry company. My 110-lbs. ruck is laughing at the soft times we shared together jumping into the pitch-black and then humping 30 miles over mountains and through swamps.
Happy Wednesday, I still lean on Marine Corps ever since high school.
Is it better if I enlist, cause I’m planning to go through college doing rotc (I’m in JROTC now) so I can become a higher rank, plus there’s no more shark attack 🤧 what’s yalls opinion? Congrats on 200k sir! 🇺🇸🤘🏻
As with anything it depends on your goals and what you want
ARMY all the way. I don't think the shark attack being taken away is going to change much. I'm still planning to enlist. I want to go for linguist and be there to support my Bros and sis in arms.
Marines is where it’s at man
@@timcanter4473 not a fan of Crayola's.
@@timcanter4473 you in the marines
@@timcanter4473 No. Most people who join the Marines do it because of self pride, not because they are willing to serve their country in the front lines. As a matter of fact, I know plenty of people who join the Marines and then change to other branches at the end of their contract.
@@andersontavarez1482 this. They think it’s hard so they feel they have to prove they can do it. According to the department of defense, It has a 90% pass rate… all initial training is designed for you to pass 😒
Then they usually get out and join some form of the Army.
Do not think ARMY is soft now. It is depend on everyone of us. How we live, how we treat others, what we want for success.
Can u do a at home work out video because the gym I was at closed
Your subdued 9th Inf Div patch is pinned sideways on your patch board.
I have a question I was disqualified today for depression I suffered when I was 12 because of a passing in my family, is there anyway around this because I'm going to keep on going until I absolutely know I cant join at all, I want to do this and I'm 19 going to 20 in a couple weeks, any tips?
Ask the recruiter about getting a waiver. I have a dormant virus in my right eye that would ordinarily keep me from passing MEPS, but I got a medical waiver for it. It also depends on what MOS/AOC you’re going for. If you’re going for something like infantry or special ops, then you’re less likely to get a waiver. If you go for something like medical corps (like me) or JAG then you’re more likely to get that waiver.
You have to meet the requirements of enlistment and being in the Army per AR 40-501 (Standards of Medical Fitness). You have to be medication free and have no events or affects within a given period of time. If 12 was the last time you had an issue, there's always a way around it. If you still have depression, don't join.
@@PinstripeJim I'm completely fine now, no medications, no depression, so rn I'm doing what I can to prove and get around it, thx for the tip
"Where there's a will, there's a waiver." Good luck
@@OpenBiolabsGuy thank you for the tip rn I'm waiting word for my recruiter I'm hoping everything goes well, and I'm happy you got pass that
Army Ranger school is tougher than U.S. marine boot camp, so if you want to be be hardcore you should still join the army.
Be accurate. Compare Marine recruit training to Army basic. Ranger school is just a leadership course, which any branch can attend. You need to study up more.
@@TheOutlawMan i am well aware of what Ranger School is. the two months of near total sleep and food deprivation, is more stressful than the recruit training for either the Army or Marines. and while any service branch may attend Ranger school, the vast majority of graduates are soldiers.
I think it’s time for an updated vid on this topic lmao
Does anyone who recently went to BCT have any details as to what Covid BCT is like?