Sony a6400 vs a6500 Optical Steadyshot and In-Body Image Stabilization Comparison
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- How does the Sony a6400 vs a6500 compare when it comes to stabilization? Is the lack of IBIS in a6400 over the a6500 a dealbreaker, and is a Sony OSS lens enough to stabilize your handheld footage? Personally, I'm using the a6400 both for vlogs as well as in my professional workflow.
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I have the a6400 and I'm having a hard time deciding if I should upgrade to the a6600 since it has IBIS. This video helped me make the decision that its not worth the upgrade. Thanks a lot!
That's great! I'm glad to be of help. My pleasure...Now go do awesome stuff with that a6400 👊📸
Heyy I need help !! I am struggling to decide between a6400 vs a6500 ! I would mostly use the camera for travel photography ( still photos ) and no videos. With the IBIS in a6500 and better color science of a6400, what should I go for? They are price about same in my country. In future I do plan to use non stablized sigma lenses..
@@adity126 if you're mainly planning to do photos then I suggest going with the A6500 because it has IBIS. I find stabilization to be very important in getting crisp clear pictures because any small movement of your hands will ruin the shot. And you said you plan to use lens without OSS so then I definitely recommend you get the A6500.
@@PheraWorld Thanks! Should I then go for a6600 or a6500 should be ok? There us a 700 usd difference currently between the two.
@@adity126 I think the A6600 is the best APSC camera out there but like you said, there's an $800 price difference so imo you might as well go for a used full frame camera like the A7 III or even the new A7R IV. Personally, I'm sticking to my A6400 until they release the A7S III because that one is targeted towards videographers and that's all I do, I don't take pictures.
Great video. This was the type of comparison I was looking for. Thank you for your great detail and work!
Happy to help! Thank you 👊 Best of luck with your decision 📸
Thanks for this video Kevin. It's the only comparison I've watched all the way through, your personality and the way you deliver the information is really good. Keep it up!!
Wow! Thanks so much... I think I'm blushing over here 😊. Do you currently film with Sony, or looking to get into the ecosystem?
@@KevinRossRN Sorry I just saw this! Currently using a Lumix G85 which is good but the auto focus is awful for my vlogging. I was looking at the A6400 but now the A6600 has come out I'm considering that. The IBIS concerns me though!
@@JackBelcher The IBIS in the 6600 concerns you?... Or the lack of IBIS in the 6400?
Great video and this is what I was looking for, thank you for sharing it with us.
That's awesome! Appreciate you saying so. Feel free to let us know what you end up deciding. 👊📷💥
What should I buy
The A6400 with Sony 10-18mm and Sony 35mm
Or the A6600 with Sigma 16mm and 30mm ?
My use is Travel vlogging
I have already ordered the first combination but I'm still confused please help me I can the order as well
This is exactly what I needed! I've decided to purchase the a6400 based on your comparison. What really had me on the fence between both cameras was the IBIS but the difference seemed very negligible to me. I'm upgrading from the a6000 which I've used for casual photo/video work. I'm looking to get more serious and will be purchasing the 18-105 F4 alongside the a6400. Really looking forward to it.
Thanks for the great comparison Kevin!
Fantastic! The more and more I film with the a6400, the more I love it. I was just out filming yesterday and some of the shots I got I was so stoked on. And the 18-105, yes! I've got a couple of videos out on this lens and I love, love, love the versatility. 👊📷
I hv same setup
@@landmine8206 that's awesome. 📸👊 It's a great set up.
Great presentation!
Much appreciated. 📸
Great work comparing cameras!
Thanks! Are you researching for a new purchase?
@@KevinRossRN Yeah, after this video I am going to go with a6400 +oss lens. Would prefer to sacrifice slightly better stabilisation to save few hundreds. Your video was really helpful. Great job!
@@LaoWaiDao Awesome! Glad to help. I did another video on the 6400 with the 18-105 OSS lens. It's a great piece of kit. You're going to love it. Keep me posted on how it's going... Excited for you 📸👊
@@KevinRossRN Cheers!
The a6400 with the sigma 16mm has BY FAR the best picture! The color science in the a6400 and the clean/crisp image that the Sigma helps produce is amazing. Also, I honestly couldn’t tell the difference with either stabilization off or on.
Yeah, the Sigma 16mm is the best when it comes to that "clean" image. I'd like to review all the Sigma primes...I have used the 30mm, my business partner uses that on her a6500 and it produces some great photos.
Also, going wide and opened up with the aperture like that helps get that bokeh that offers some of that stabilized look. Are you using Sony right now?
Kevin Ross yes, I have the Sony a6400. The sigma 16mm 1.4 is my main lens at the moment. It basically lives in my camera! About 5 months ago I sold my Canon 80D with 5 canon lenses and made the switch at Sony. It was the best decision I’ve ever made. The only things I miss is the bigger grip, bigger battery, and headphone jack. The a6400 beats the canon in every other aspect though.
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. I’m a huge fan of the show and always will be. 🙌🏼
@@TJuice1986 Really appreciate that brother 👊
Yeah, the Sigma is just hard to beat for what it offers, and of course the price. For commercial work we usually record through a Zoom H6 or check it through an external monitor, but I agree that being able to check it on the fly via the camera itself would be nice.
Kind of silly what these companies hold back on to then later offer it as a "feature" on another model 🤷♂️
I'll check out the channel, that's awesome you're creating 👊
Awesome video mate. Really good and informative, helped me to descide the buy of the a6400 👍
That's awesome! I was just out filming product photography and some behind the scenes marketing videos today. I hope you love it as much as I do. 📸🤘💥
You going to be filming video mostly or a little bit of of both video and photo?
@@KevinRossRN mostly video in form of vlogs and other videos. Maybe Photo :) i have not recieved the camera yet but i am really excited about it!
That's great, and I'm excited for you. The flip up screen does help tremendously with vlogging. These Sony cameras have amazing autofocus as it is, but it's still nice to be able to see if you're in focus with that flip up.
@@KevinRossRN Yes for sure! Thanks for the video again mate :)
@@jespero94 it's my pleasure entirely. Thank you 🤘
nice video dude
Much appreciated 🤙
Hi Kevin, thanks for an awesome video. Im looking at getting the a6400 with the Sony 20mm f/2.8 (no OSS)...The reason I want this is so that it's small enough to fit in my pocket for photography but I also want it to be good enough for casual vlogging (doing disneyland vlogs, or walking at trails). Would the a6600 (because of IBIS) be worth the upgrade for better stabilized images? or is there a different pancake lens you suggest that has OSS? Thank you
For photography my friend, if that it is your primary use case I'd then have you lean over to the 6600 if you can swing it. Not sure if you're in the US but I just checked here: amzn.to/2UjB2i3 and it's on sale again. This should have been the starting price all along in my opinion. Are you concerned about having such a wide focal length or would you prefer something you can zoom in with? I mean, I love primes and I always just adjust my distance by either stepping back or into the shot. I did also do a video of the "zoom" capabilities of the primes on a Sony camera...just in case you haven't seen it: czcams.com/video/PYZLs5AhQ-I/video.html
Wow! Cool motions!
Many thanks. Appreciate you 🤘
Thanks for this very useful review. Good to know about the recording limit and overheating of the 6500. I would go for the 6400 for sure.
Glad to help. Appreciate you being here.
Very good comparison!! 👌🏻
Thanks! What are you currently filming with? Hybrid shooter, more photo, or video? Just curious.
Kevin Ross More into videos....but i like taking photos also👍🏻 I have A6400, GoPro, Mavic 2 Zoom....
@@Tavyspromote I'm with ya on the video. I'm in the process of comparing these for photo... Since I've had some interest.
Nice on those pieces of gear 👊 I'll have to check out your channel. Not sure if I'll upgrade the OG mavic pro I have, but hey, I might be swayed 😁
Kevin Ross Thanks😊👍🏻 Im still at learning curve...but at least its fun to do YT. I used to have Mavic Pro, its a good drone, but i love Mavic 2 Zoom even more...better image quality, better gimbal, more sensors and overall more reliable....better rc transmission etc.
Reliability improvement would be good. And that RC transmission specifically would be nice. I had to hunt for my drone a couple of times. The biggest "adventure" was when I lost it on the other side of this ridge that was across a lake.
Spent the whole day crossing a lot of terrain to find it. Climbing/Scaling rock faces. Was a bust on locating it, but then went back a second day after reviewing footage that was on my phone and eventually found it hanging in some brush about 12-18 inches from a huge drop off. Anyway, it ended up being a great story, but not necessarily one I wanted to repeat.
This is by far the best comparison of the 6400 and 6500. I own the 6500 with the 18-105 and sigma 16mm and I love it but the colors on the 6400 definitely look better straight out the camera. I'm going to change my profile to cine 4. What ND filters are you using?
Awesome! Happy to help. Yes, color science is better. I also did a video about the 6400 and 6600, however this isn't a hands on with the 6600 since I don't have a test unit, but I compared the a6500 stabilization since it's pretty much the same as the 6600.
I used the 16mm briefly then switched over to the 18-105.
Anyway, I use these filters amzn.to/2VdG5Qd for my lenses. Ended up ordering another one just today for another review I'm working on with the kit lens.
Hi. For a beginner like me, what would you recommend the a6500 or a6400? I will be using the camera more for taking photos, more of travel photography. And is the 16-50 mm lense good for travel photography? Thanks!
So I personally use the a6400 more than the 6500. The 16-50 is a stabilized lens, which the 6400 does not have stabilization built in, so as long as you're using a stabilized lens for photography, I think you should be good. The 16-50 is what's considered a kit lens, but a fantastic place to start for the money.
Damn this video is great, after watching this. Picking the a6400 over the a6500 is a no brainer. But the real question is now, since the a6600 was released would that be worth picking up over the a6400? Put in a perspective of you picking your first camera and getting in photography/videography? a6400 or a6600? Thank!
Ha! Thanks! I'm actually working on a quick video about this very subject (a6400 vs a6600). I believe I have some very balanced advice to give...spoiler alert though, a6400 is still my pick 😉
Out of curiosity, what will be your primary use case?...Hybrid shooter with a mix of photo and video?
@@KevinRossRN Most likely a hybrid shooter man, the flip screen is a major go for me. To give you a little bit more idea in my situation, before the a6600 was released I was in search of a camera that fits both of my needs (Video/Photo. The a6500 and 6400 both excels in what I'm looking for and was narrowed down between those two. After deciding on the a6400, and after watching this video I would've picked the a6400 easily. Since the a6600 was released, I've held back; since it had IBIS and the flip screen. Also it'll be my first camera ill be picking up and wanna dedicate myself to shoot Sony.
Totally get it. The IBIS is definitely more useful (in my opinion) for photos, and specifically anything that's mid to full telephoto. With these cameras being so lightweight, you can get a much smaller gimbal that offers you stabilization.
Honestly, filming with the a6500 at a commercial level for clients, I was filming with gimbals A LOT, even with the IBIS. Sonys are fantastic cameras with amazing autofocus, and the color science has been improved since the a6400 launch, which was also carried into the a6600, but the video IBIS isn't the best.
I'll go over this in my upcoming video about the two, but for the price difference of $500 USD between the two, that $ could go toward a decent lens and/or a gimbal like the Zhiyun Crane M-2 or equivalent..depending on the weight of the lens, then you might need something like the Weebill Lab.
Hey man, thanks for the video. I'm currently stuck between the two... huge reason is to take high quality shots of our geckos/reptiles.. also a family man so will use for sports games and outdoor activities, my daughter also wants to dabble on CZcams videos... any input would be much appreciated, and is a macro lense necessary for awesome close ups on the reptiles?
Thank you
Oh man, I just love this camera more and more every day. My a6500 has become more of a B cam, which I know you'd typically not have two APSC cameras that are so close in specs, but the a6400 paired with the 16mm I use with it is so awesome.
If your daughter wants to use it for CZcams, definitely. For talking head videos, most definitely since it has the flip up screen.
Now, I will have some videos coming out on a macro setup, but there's a couple of options (one is a trick). You could take the 16mm, pull it off the body and flip it around...basically using the lens backwards, BUT you have to be careful not to scratch the lens element. It's a hack for sure and takes some finesse .
There's also an easier "fix" by using a macro tube: amzn.to/2GTb7XL
I reviewed the Sony 18-105 and this paired with a macro tube (zoomed in) should meet your need without having to purchase a separate lens. We've got some product photography sessions coming up and will be using this very set up.
@@KevinRossRN definitely appreciate the fast reply!
My one friend said that the 6500 IBIS shines through when shooting unsupported at the macro distances. Have you found it (6500 ibis) to be better for the close ups with no tripod and what not? Or like you were saying as long as the lense has oss, than it doesn't make that much of difference?
Sorry for incorrect terms I'm sure. And thank you again
This is a great question, and something I'll go into more detail when featuring these two cameras for photos. The IBIS in the a6500 (or really any of the sony cameras) for use in video isn't that great. I personally think the OSS lens offers better stabilization in some situations.
Now, as far as photos, this is where the IBIS is helpful, especially trying to get that tack sharp look when unsupported. I rarely shoot anything at the macro level unsupported...well, with the caveat of these shots occurring in a studio. Locked off tripod always.
If I'm not using a tripod, then I'll end up putting on a camera strap to then create tension from the neck, down to the camera (handheld) to offer up some stabilization. I don't want to necessarily say that you always (MUST) have this locked off on a tripod, but if you really want to go handheld for photo most of the time (macro) or even zoomed in on the subject from a distance, say 100-200+ mm, then you could notice some shake in the shot, but the autofocus on this thing is just sick, especially with the eye AF. If I'm shooting in burst, and my shutter speed, lighting, ISO is where it needs to be, then most of those shots in my experience has been that they are in focus.
If this doesn't answer your question specifically, then let me know. I just wanted to provide you with my use case and the context in how I use it. I'm certainly not a fanboy. There has yet to be THE perfect camera, but I'm just invested in the ecosystem and continue on that path as I haven't been disappointed in a way that limits me personally or professionally.
Thank you for taking the time on a well thought out explanation. Definitely appreciate you taking the time to do so. That helped a lot and answered very thoroughly.
Last question and sorry if you've answered already, but does the OSS stack on top of the ibis feature by chance? Like if i get the 6500, would I no longer need a oss lense because one would cancel out the other?
Big thanks again
I could also wait for your photo comparison video on them so you dont have to explain more....no rush but curious if you had a eta on that video? Lol
Great and informative video comparison
Glad to help and awesome to have you here.
@@KevinRossRN You saved me from selling my a6400 to get the a6600 cz my main goal is the stabilization, so i got gimbal instead. Although it seems pain to take the gimbal with me everywhere and balance it for each lens i put for each specific job but the result will be better than having a6600 with a lens that has OSS, I don’t know if there are anyways to just film simple clips without the gimbal with no shakes. But i ordered a 12mm lens so its wide and will take the shake away even without a gimbal
Yeah those wider lenses help. Tamron also makes a lens that has some built in stabilization. It’s not as good as OSS but it helps with micro jitters. It’s the 17-70mm I believe.
@@KevinRossRN i have the tamron 28-75mm f2.8 which doesn’t go as wide as the one u mentioned but good tele lens, idk if i need to sell that to get the once you mentioned since I already have an ultra wide one so idk if i need it or no. FYI i use gimbal as well
Yeah, if you use a gimbal I wouldn’t prioritize that lens right now.
Which one do you prefer for a wildlife photography ? Iam in a big confusion which one to select a6500 or a6400 ..please help me out this
Photography is where you're really going to want the stabilization, especially if you're using longer focal length lenses. So, with the a6500 having the IBIS, then I may lean toward this camera for this type of photography.
im looking comparison like this!!! nice
Hope that it helped. What are you currently shooting with?
Hey Kevin, great to see you again for a camera review this time. Well, I have a Sony a6500 (my first ever mirrorless camera) where I’m unable to mount my Go Wireless Pro mic properly on the hot- shoe as it gets stuck by the big EVF on the 6500. Do you have any suggestions for it? Thanks in advance .
Have you thought about getting a cage for it, or do you want to stay on the lighter side.
@@KevinRossRN As a traveler on the go, I always prefer to carry around quality light products (that’s why I chose Rode wireless Go Mic instead of it’s shotgun mic). So, let me know your thoughts. Regards,
Do you have something like this where you are? amzn.to/31c1r4C
@@KevinRossRN That’s surprising. Is it called cold shoe (I’m yet to know the difference between hot and cold shoe in a camera) or a small rig? I’ll search for it in Amazon India website. Thanks a lot, Kevin. 🙏 😊
Yep, it just means there’s no power to it. Hopefully it’ll fix your issue. Best of luck.
Hi between a6500 and 6400, which camera has better 120fps slow motion? And I also do wedding videography with gimbal on it.
I consider them both similar quality at all of the frame rates. However, if you're filming weddings on a gimbal, the 6400 may be the way to go.
What kind of lenses do you think you'd be using?
Thanks for the great comparison! I'm torn between 6400 and 6500 for underwater and surf photography (mainly photos over video), I plan to invest in OSS lenses regardless. I would go for the 6600 for the battery but can't find a suitable underwater housing..
So there’s no housing for the 6600 that’ll work? That’s interesting since the body is so close in size, although I know when it comes to water you want the right housing.
There are a few but much better options for the 6400 and 6500. What I’m trying to figure out is whether the IBIS is likely to help with photos when swimming around in the waves trying to get a good shot? Or will the OSS be sufficient? Thanks in advance for any advice!
The IBIS is great for those microjitters although the stabilized lenses do a phenomenal job. IBIS is definitely better for photography. I would say you’re going to want as much help as possible in the water.
Thanks for the video,
I can get both cameras for about the same price and I my focus will be on photography, which camera whould you recommend?
Which lens are you thinking about? I do use the 6400 more often.
@@KevinRossRN I am thinking about a zoom lens like the 18-105, 18-135 or even a 18-200 in order to only take one lens on the hikes
For photos I’d say the 18-135 would be a solid choice. And it’s stabilized, so it would help with the 6400 since there’s no IBIS.
Hi mate Amazing video..Confused between the XT3 with an 18-55 OIS LENS or the a6400 with the OSS lens or the a6600 with IBIS.my main usage of the camera would be mainly for videos and sparsely for photos..What would best suit me.?.
The Fuji colors are pretty unique (good), especially with photos, however this isn't to say the Sony colors aren't good either. For video however, the auto focus on the Sony is so hard to beat.
If you told me you'd mostly be shooting photos, I'd probably have you lean into Fuji, but for video the a6600 along with the multitude of lens choices may serve you better.
It's not that I'm a Sony fan boy here I just want you to have the right tool in your bag.
@@KevinRossRN thanks for the reply buddy.So now it boils down to the a6600 and the a6400..Is the a6600 with better battery and ibis worth the extra money or would I be ok with an OSS lens on the 6400 and extra batteries.?
@@willowwatts Well, here in the U.S. (not sure if you're in the U.S.), the 6600 tends to fluctuate in price, and drops to 1198 USD, which where the camera should have started.
Here's the argument I've been helping people make, with the 6600 having IBIS... It's not the best IBIS, but it's something...You'd have more options with third party lenses that are less expensive, but don't have OSS. So, the entire investment may be around the same as the a6400 and a Sony OSS lens.
However, I do think that the OSS in these lenses is really good, and honestly enough on their own to provide stabilization for video, but I suppose that depends on what you're filming.
You're obviously not going to get a gimbal look out of your footage unless you have a gimbal, so realistic expectations are a must here.
I personally still use the 6400 all the time and the only thing that I do notice with no IBIS and no OSS lens are sometimes if I'm filming close up on an object handheld that there can be very noticeable micro jitters, which I usually adjust the way I'm filming or I stabilize it in post.
Also the A6400 auto focusing is a lot better, the A6500 kept re-focusing, first on the trees behind you then back on to your face. Although I have an A7 III i will be purchasing the A6400 for my B camera. Thanks for the review.
Still rocking the 6400 and loving it. Took it out the other night for some low-light filming and amazed out how well it performs. I think you'll appreciate having it as your B cam.
What do you mostly film?
Do you think the IBIS+OSS would benefit more for capturing smoother freehand B-roll?
As I was telling another community member here, I just think that having the OSS lens taking care of the pitch and yaw has some benefits over just having the IBIS take care of it along with the roll, X & Y.
I'd like to post an updated video with that very information (specifically) on the difference between just IBIS, and IBIS with the OSS. It's not as if you're doubling or getting "extra" stabilization with the OSS paired with IBIS, it's just that the camera ends up letting the OSS lens handle that Pitch and Yaw, which in my opinion is better in many of my use cases.
With handheld I'm definitely at 60fps, sometimes 120fps if I'm not as worried about focus and/or if I really need to slow it down to 25% (or less).
I guess a long answer to actually answer your question. In my experience I do notice the benefit with OSS paired with IBIS in handheld video.
Kevin Ross So it’s more like you don’t really need the IBIS unless you plan to use lenses that don’t have OSS. I like to think I won’t be using lenses that don’t have OSS but you never know. I wish Sony could have just given the 6500 a flip up screen!
Yes, and I agree that the a6500 would benefit greatly from a flip up. The 16mm that I use is so awesome, and fast. I wasn't as concerned on the a6500 with the IBIS, however a bit more cautious with my handheld footage using the a6400 and the 16mm...If I know it's going to be a real problem, I'll just switch over to the kit lens or the trusty 18-105.
Sony really confused the market in my opinion. I realize that this was supposed to be an upgrade to the 6300 and/or 6000, but with some of the features (real world, not just spec) that are better than the a6500....good grief why don't they just make it more confusing 😜
@@KevinRossRN I ended up getting the a6400 and using the 100$ I saved to put towards a Gimbal, perfect combo. Definitely more versatile than just an a6500.
Yes! That's so awesome. Really hope your a6400 setup serves you well. I have a feeling it will. Go crush some creative! 📷📹👊
thats helpful. thanks 😊
You bet. Thank you 🙏
Aloha~question regarding a6400 video stabilization...I am new to this sonya6400...is there manual setting? video I took shows like no stabilization at all super shaky from standing and just recording...any recommendations for good steady autofocus lens for normal daily use..any info would helpful...thanks
Which lens are you using? Since there’s no in-body stabilization then you’re have to rely on the lens and depending on what you’re filming, potentially a gimbal.
@@KevinRossRN ihave 2 lenses16-50oss &18-135oss...also do you know why the video shots come out fuzzy snowy on the hot sunny day must be the setting dont know why...thanks
Well those lenses should have optical stabilization. So, you should really be getting some help there. As far as the quality of the shot, are you setting your aperture and ISO for that kind of shooting, and are you by chance using a ND filter?
@@KevinRossRN hi overall all my video shootings are graysh snowy eith indoor or outdoor...i m checking my setting and learing by trying different settings mainly i am using my a6400 for ooutdoor sunny sceanes and outdoor driving scenes...thanks.
Now do keep in mind that there are settings for shooting indoors and outdoors. There is also picture profiles. Do you know what picture profile you’re filming in?
Thanks for this video! I definitely don't have the eye of a pro to distinguish the differences in micro jitters and neither do my family and friends that will watch my vacation videos. I think that the A6400 with the trio Sigma lenses and a gimbal will be a great buy for any amateur like me :)
You're going to love it...and those Sigma lenses?...You'll love those too. And especially with a gimbal for when you really need it, you are going to be creating some great memories. Happy to help. 📷👊
is it better to buy a6400 without the kit lens instead buy the 18-135 mm lens? and with additional gimbal on it?
My concern is the stabilization thats why i am confused which one i should buy,a6500 or a6400.
Thanks in advance for the input
@@johnwicked4982 if your concern is stabilization a gymbal with any of those 2 cameras will give you great results. IBIS by itself its not enough imo
So the 18-135 does have stabilization in the lens and would be a decent start to using the a6400.
What are you mostly filming or using it for?
@@KevinRossRN Hi Kevin, i shoot mostly landscape, skiing( aside from my go pro) and vlog.Thanks
Are you stuck on a buying decision about the Sony a6400, specifically when it comes to the lack of IBIS? Do you currently have an a6500 or other Sony APS-C camera? Let me know.
I'm just confused which one to buy among the two? I will be using it majorly for travel, night photography and videography. Help me make a choice.
@@srdugar Not sure the level of photo/video you're going for, but a couple more things not mentioned in this video are:
1 stop better in low light
Autofocus is 0.02s, which the a6500 is 0.05s...which is still fast in real world use regardless, but that Eye Auto Focus (AF) is on point with the a6400 for photos.
Get a stabilized lens and/or smaller sized and reasonably priced gimbal depending on your video needs.
No recording limit on the a6400. A little bit better battery life, which hey, I'll take that.
a6400 is my primary right now. Just sayin'
Do you currently have a set up? Or looking to get your start?
@@KevinRossRN I use a canon 1200D it's been some time since I've been thinking to upgrade.
@@srdugar Yeah, that seems about right for an upgrade ;)
So, as you know, and I believe that's an EF mount lens setup, that you could use an adapter for the Sony to use your lenses...but again, you may know that.
The AF certainly won't be as responsive as the native Sony lenses, and the Sigma line (which I use) is not even noticeable as far as any deficit compared to the native glass.
Sigma glass is just awesome on these Sonys, and especially considering the native glass is quite a bit more in some cases, depending on what you're going for.
I was a Nikon shooter before, but not really deep into that ecosystem, so the switch (due to primarily reasons for a better hybrid experience) wasn't painful.
Have you been looking into the EOS R as well?...since you're in that system already? If so, what about that system do you like or not?
@@KevinRossRN I'm really keen to get Sony, and I've come down to a6500 and a6400
I’m also stuck in between the two like rest of the people, but I’m leaning more towards the a6400. Which of the two takes better photos?
Happy to help here and not just focus on the specs alone, except that the a6400 is stated to be about 1 stop "better" in low light. I can confirm a slight improvement in low light, especially when you're having to tweak ISO to get that shot.
If you're shooting portraits, sports, or basically a subject where you can take advantage of the Eye Autofocus (Eye AF), then you will notice the performance boost there. I'm getting better results than on the a6500, but better is relative...let's not run away with just specs.
Timelapse: I've used the built-in interval shooting (vs. having to use a remote on the a6500 or an app through Play Memories)...and I do love this feature. Love it.
Autofocus is slightly better on the a6400 (0.02s vs 0.05s) with native glass, although the Sigma primes...still fast. Is the 0.03 that much different? In real world, likely not a deal breaker, but I'll take it.
The sensors in the cameras are the same, it's just the chipset that's different. Referring back up to the AF, this is where the advantages may be realized in overall sharpness and tracking the subject.
Lack of IBIS in the a6400...okay, so this is where you really have to consider your use case and environment. Using native OSS lenses are recommended on the a6400, and locked off shots for sure. IBIS in video is not really a point of strength here, but for photos it'll offer you some advantages if you're interested in photography, especially without OSS lenses.
I go back and forth with the EVF and the LCD, and I do love the brightness on the LCD of the a6400 shooting outdoors.
The more I use the a6400, the more I like about it and the less I find issues with it. The a6500 will remain in my kit for the foreseeable, but the a6400 will be the one I choose first.
Even if these were priced exactly the same, knowing what I know, I'd choose the a6400. Grab that 16-50 kit lens for the extra 100USD. I didn't used to recommend the kit lens, but I'm swayed by its versatility.
This has really helped me into making my decision to get the a6400. Thank you very much. You got yourself a new subscriber. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Nice kick in the beginning by the way!
@@anthonyyy18 Ha! Many thanks. I'm still stretching out the muscles on that kick. And as far as your decision, best of luck my friend. Experiment, explore and just have some fun with it. 👊📸
Feel free to keep me posted.
Hi I’m going to buy the a6600 but I can’t decide between the Sony 35mm f1.8 with OSS (and much smaller) or the Sigma 30mm f1.4 (much larger)... this will be my main lens as I don’t do YouTubing... it will be for b-roll and making short cinematic films etc. I will also be using it a lot for photography with that lovely bokeh... can you give any advice between the two lenses? Does the OSS+IBIS make a difference? Which lens is better? And as I will be travelling with it a lot do you recommend the smaller Sony lens? TIA
Based on the info here, I'd steer you over to the 35mm. On the APS-C sensor (cropped) of the 6600, that'll give you a full-frame equivalent of around 50mm, which is a great all around focal length, which is roughly the same ( a little less). I truly love the Sigma line up and the sharpness of this lens and colors (I think) are a bit better than the Sony.
So then why am I recommending the Sony? Travel, and autofocus.
The smaller the kit the better when it comes to traveling. And, the autofocus on the Sigma is really good, but the Sony still beats it with the autofocus. The colors are still good with the Sony even if the Sigma is marginally better, but still really good.
The OSS in the Sony lenses are fantastic. Honestly, I rely more on the stabilization in the lens, and the OSS +IBIS will more than be able to serve your needs. A great combo.
So, for your needs, 6600 + Sony 35mm
Kevin Ross brilliant thank you! I’ve watched so many videos and have found it hard to decide. I’ll get the Sony 35 then... and if I was to buy one other lens for the same camera what would you choose? Another question if you don’t mind, can you perform a rack focus by setting the autofocus to slow and pressing on the focus points on the screen during the shot? With an a6600 I mean
Yes, you can do that. I do it on my 6400...if you mean a locked off shot and then going from one object to another in the frame with a touch of the LCD..yes.
Are you looking for another compact lens? Zoom functionality or prime? And, are you wanting to stay with a Sony lens or third-party (no stabilized lens)...telephoto or shorter focal length?
Kevin Ross thanks again! I don’t mind what the other lens is as I’m still getting into this hobby. I don’t know what I should have really for the travel videos and family videos and probably some nice family or travel pictures etc...
So I personally own the 18-105 (as I showed in the video), however if you're also considering photography, I'd lean into the 18-135: amzn.to/36I0tkt
Great all around lens that gets decent video or good photos with a focal range that'll be helpful for wide establishing shots, portraits and mid telephoto for landscapes. It's reasonably priced compared to some higher end lenses.
I have been using sonya6000 on my vlog, few days ago i bought canon g7x mark iii ,autofocus sucks, transfering videos takes forever, i am considering to buy Sony 6400 and just return canon g7x mark iii
Did you (Do you) like the a6000? Were you just trying something new with the g7x and looking for a different outcome? Just curious of your interest in the g7x.
I have heard about the same issues your mentioning here. The 6400 would certainly be a very good upgrade.
I Just want a flip camera thats why I bought g7x iii.
@@crossmay well I can certainly understand wanting to have the flip up screen. The a6400's auto focus is awesome. I think you will enjoy it and get better results based on your needs.
One more question sir. Is the stability of a6400 is good??
@@crossmay well, the a6400 doesn't have in body image stabilization. The 6600 does. To stabilize for handheld you'd really want to consider stabilized lenses (the ones that say OSS on them).
What gimbal do you use? Ronin S ? Cheers!
Accsoon : amzn.to/2F0qxYX
There's a newer version of this I believe, but pretty equivalent to the Ronin S... Although Ronin S is still a good option if you have a heavier setup.
Hello,
im planning to buy a camera for food videos and i think the sony 6400 would be a good option. What do you recomend me?
Are you asking if I'd recommend the a6400 for food, or are you also looking for lens recommendations?
I've definitely filmed food with the 6400.
@@KevinRossRN Yeap! If you recomend the 6400 for food video. the thing is that i will open a youtube channel about recipes
It's a very capable camera for food. I'm actually working on some projects now, filming food. It's still my go to camera. And, paired with the Sigma lenses, like the 30mm: amzn.to/2xWBaf4
That's going to give you an equivalent (close to) 50mm. The 16mm and 56mm are also great. Although the 56mm might have too tight of a focal length depending on what how you're filming.
This 30mm is a decent macro lens: amzn.to/34hLGK5
Not the sharpest, but if you're doing photography and want to get some of those macro shots, then it could be a good place to start, although the Sigma for macro would likely get you a sharper image: amzn.to/2UPIfaf
Will I definitely miss the IBIS+OSS when shooting zoomed OR lowlight (linger exposure)?
Your vid was more on track of what I needed to see. Currently there are NEW A6500 bodies for $899. Same as A6400.
I will shoot maybe 20% Vid, 80% photo. I was set on the 6500 until I looked into the autofocus/eyefocus/lowlight/battery upgrades of the 6400. Then I thought, ok 6400 it is.
First glass purchase would have to be Sigma 16mm f/1.4...looks beautiful. I just want to make sure I’m not screwing up.
The a6400 takes some beautiful photos. I don't typically have any issues with focus or jitter with the Sigma 16mm. If you're using an OSS lens, then you're going to be fine.
However, to your point of being zoomed in, this is where you're going to want OSS or to at least be locked off. I have the Sony 85mm full frame, which is ~127mm equivalent on the 6400 and wow that lens is sharp...as a tack. But, the problem is that it's not a stabilized lens, so anytime I'm shooting with it I'm using a monopod or some other stabilizer with it when taking photos.
I still have the 6500 and it too takes beautiful photos, but there is something ever so slightly noticeable in the color science with the recent upgrade in the 6400...Same sensor, yes, but there's slightly better output with an also slightly better bump in ISO range with it.
I get where you're coming from and I think Sony just confused more users than actually helped with they added the 6100, which I would hands down recommend the 6400 over that body.
The pricing of the 6600 although right around where the 6500 was when it was launched seems in line, but now that the A7iii is coming down in price we're starting to see these two cameras way too close, however I understand the full-frame vs. APS-C setup is another debate.
But to reiterate, that 16mm on the 6400 is great, but the question really does come down to let's say wanted to save a little money and purchase mostly Sigma and Tamron lenses to save some money, and to really get very comparable glass, then IBIS may be what you need, especially zoomed in.
However if you think you'd have a mix of Sigma and Sony native with OSS, I'd personally go for the 6400 and just be mindful of my focal length needs...and stabilize when/where I needed to....
Not exactly sure this helps, but I can understand you wanting to make the right decision here. Have you thought about renting a body for a few days to give them a try?
Kevin Ross thanks for the detailed response. With either 6400/6500 I would probably get all three of these
-Sony 18-135mm OSS (save $100s w/ kit
Kevin Ross coming from a T3I over here!!
Yeah, that would be a good piece of kit (either 6400 or 6500) for around 2K. You may not find a lot of need for that 50mm...maybe? But it is a really good price. Full frame is just another beast altogether. If you want it/need it, sure...but these APS-C cameras are very capable. Not to mention what Sony likely has around the corner in their full frame offerings. It'll be interesting to see if there are some kits/combos that'll be paired up during the holidays
Kevin Ross I scrapped the 50mm idea. Went with the Sony 35mm f/1.8 with no body. Sigma 16mm f/1.4 on my mind and so is the Sony 18-105mm f/4
Heyy I need help !! I am struggling to decide between a6400 vs a6500 ! I would mostly use the camera for travel photography ( still photod ) and no videos. With the IBIS in a6500 and better color science of a6400, what should I go for? They are price about same in my country. In future I do plan to use non stablized sigma lenses..
Which sigma lenses are you considering? And, would you be shooting mostly handheld, or locked off on a monopod or tripod?
@@KevinRossRN 16mm and 30mm sigma lenses. Only handheld, no tripod
@@adity126 with pure handheld, I'd recommend the a6500 for situations where you're zoomed in more.
The 16mm isn't going to be as much of an issue if you're aperture is wide open, and/or your subject is close.
However the longer focal length is where you really need that IBIS. I was out shooting yesterday and this morning because I am testing this between the 6400 and 6500 with a mid telephoto setup where the lens is not stabilized. I'm still working through those photos and will post a video coming up... Hopefully soon.
@@KevinRossRN Thanks! Should I then go for a6600 or a6500 should be ok? There us a 700 usd difference currently between the two.
@@adity126 I'd say that with that type of savings, and primarily photography, if you can, put that savings to the glass. You'll be amazed at how well the 6500 will perform with a good lens.
Shooting with the 6500 in a comparison video I'm doing, it's still very capable.
Halo from Indonesia, Thank You Kevin
Well hello, and thank you 🙏
Very nice 👌, what nd do you use with sigma 16mm?
Thanks. This is one of the filters I use: amzn.to/2NKDrik
Very reasonable price in my opinion. What do you mainly film?
@@KevinRossRN thank you very much 😊
You bet. 📸
Was this shot in Boulder? Pretty location.
Boulder area, and Leadville for some. Have you been?
@@KevinRossRN Spent a few years in Denver and got to hit Boulder a few times. Really like it.
It's a beautiful place indeed. That's awesome that you got to experience the area for a short time.
Very useful video. I have a dilemma whether to buy a6500 + Sigma 30mm 1.4 (no stabilization) or a6400 + Sony 35mm 1.8 (has stabilization). Primarily for video purposes without gimbal.
Thanks! Do you have a specific budget in mind, and another question, what is the current price of the 6600 in your country?
@@KevinRossRN Thank you for your quick response. Yes, I have a limited budget so I have narrowed my choice to these two options. Both variants are similar in price (a6400 + Sony 35 1.8 = about 1300$ ..... Sony a6500 + Sigma 30mm 1.4 = about 1350$). Model a6600 it is much more expensive, about $ 1450 only body (Serbia, Eastern Europe). So what is the cleverest choice in your opinion? :)
Okay, I just wanted to see what the pricing differences were because the 6600 is now 1,100 USD, but I know not all countries have dropped the price.
Here are my thoughts:
I do love the 6400 for the way that I film. Having the flip up screen is really helpful, and I've also been able to get the shots I need without a gimbal, but rather stabilizing my video in other ways...I did a video on that.
What I also love are the Sigma lenses. The value that you get for the price...at least the price here in the US, it's amazing. They are sharp lenses.
Now, I obviously know these don't have stabilization, which is your dilemma. Actually, many people's dilemma.
If you were able to obtain the 6600 with the IBIS, then I'd say go for that because in the end you could potentially be saving money because the Sigma lenses are cheaper than the Sony.
However, the 6500 is still a good camera no doubt. I still have it and use it.
Going back to the 6400 however, I would still choose it over the 6500. That Sony 35mm 1.8 is a good lens, which will give you about a 50mm full frame equivalent focal length, which can be a sweet spot for both filming video, and portrait photography.
Photos, especially at a longer focal length benefit from the stabilization. Yes, stabilization with video is important, but there are ways to stabilize when filming and in post.
The a6400 has been, and I believe still is the better value for many filmmakers.
@@KevinRossRN Thanks a lot for your time and a very detailed answer. This means a lot to me in making my decision. By all accounts I think I'll opt for the 6400 + Sony 1.8. I'll get back to you with impressions. In any case a great quality channel with lots of user information. I will continue to follow. Greetings from Serbia.
@@persepolistube1 I just want to help people make a decision... I know what it's like to be on the fence. Appreciate your feedback.
And yes, feel free to keep me posted on your setup. 👊📸
kindly help me for buying ND filter or polarized filter for a6500 which one is better??
thanks
love frm INDIA
I appreciate that, thanks.
I use these filters: amzn.to/2LOH6eA
But it does depend on the lens you're using because as you'll see they come in different sizes. Which lens are you wanting this for?
I'm Going with Sigma 30mm f1.4
Thanks
That's a fantastic lens...and the ND filter size would be 52mm. Best of luck with this lens. Feel free to let me know how you like it.
Thanks Kevin...... Will probably tell You..... Love ur videoS ❣️
So which ND filter or polarized filter will be good for that...??
Helpful thank you!
My pleasure... Hope it helped to make a buying decision... I know it can be tough.
I've narrowed it down to the A6400 but everything you said about lenses went straight over my head. What lens should I get for low light concert photography for someone who usually shots on Auto?
Are you filming from the crowd, or closer, like from the stage? Longer focal lengths you're definitely going to want a stabilized lens since there's no IBIS in this camera. Have you narrowed down your budget?
@@KevinRossRN : Thank you for helping me! I wasn't even thinking of filming so much as to when I am taking pictures. I guess when I film it would be from both the crowd and stage however, I really need a good lens to take pictures with. Mine are never crisp and lack so much. I have a DSLSony 550 right now. I know, it's old but it is what I have. My budget is around $1500. I was told about the SonyA6000 but then I thought it may be better to get a better camera or I'll be back to what I have now.
The camera is certainly important, and the 6400 is a great photo camera...but it's the lens that is most important, and a cost that many may not realize as being more expensive than the camera body. So, if you're shooting from a distance and would likely need a lens that's good in low-light as well, not to mention stabilization built in this may be harder on that budget. The 18-135: amzn.to/34uLgST is a better lens for photography than video in my opinion, but it does have an aperture of 3.5-5.6 (variable based on the focal length).
You can definitely push the ISO a bit on the 6400 and still get decent images in low-light. I went out filming the other night and I'm literally editing that video now...Although I did film with the Sigma 16mm which has an aperture of 1.4, so it lets in a lot of light.
@@KevinRossRN : Thank you! I will look into all of this.
@@KevinRossRN : Would this be the lens you recommend and is this a good deal? smile.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-a6400-Mirrorless-Camera/dp/B07MV3P74D/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3M2MEHAVOVK6A&dchild=1&keywords=sony+a6400+kit+bundle&qid=1597760553&sprefix=sony+A6400+ki%2Caps%2C220&sr=8-3
I'm amazed by the side by side of the Kit lense and the Sigma. I'm running to buy a sigma now (for a6400) :)
It's definitely a tack a sharp lens. There's really only two lenses I carry. The Sigma and the 18-105. I've never needed more. Just realize however that if you run, it's not a stabilized lens 😆
Best of luck with your experience...feel free to keep me posted.
@@KevinRossRN Haha, ok I walk to the store then. Or at least from it.
I was positively surprised in your example with sigma 16 on 6400. It's not THAT shaky. To make it silky I'd say a gimbal is the way regardless - but maybe that's individual!
@@w2best Exactly, on the gimbal that is. I did an updated video on my thoughts between the a6400 and a6600, and did another mini test with the 16mm on both... Without the colors being blown out... The test is about at the 4-5min mark into the video... It was comparing just the 16mm on both, then adding the 18-105 on the a6400.
Regardless, it's a fantastic lens. I ended up breaking this lens on a shoot in a skatepark, and immediately reordered it that same day.
The funny thing however is that I was able to fix the one I broke... That's why I have two 🤷♂️... Makes it great for testing purposes. 📸
Please kindly help me out this situation should I go with 6500 or 6400?
I’m very much confused
What are you going to be using it for? Photo, video, both? Also, what's your budget?
I have enough budget to buy a6500 and I’m a automotive photographer
And I will use for both video and photos
@@rehanshaik1051 Honestly, having both and really getting a lot out of the a6500, I do still lean towards the a6400. The lack of IBIS may be missed more in photos, however only if you're not using stabilized lenses, which I would recommend having 1-2 stabilized lenses in your kit.
I mostly shoot video and use gimbals for a lot of my professional work, although the handheld filming is usually with a stabilized lens or filmed at a higher frame rate to slow it down... Depending on what I'm filming.
The 6400 color science is going to be a bit better as well as the HLG picture profile, which may or may not be a deal breaker.
I definitely want to be as balanced as I can with my recommendation here. I still use both, but again do go for the a6400 more often for both photo and video. It's really hard to beat right now for the price and features.
Kevin Ross I’m going with 6500 because I don’t have gimbal right now, mainly I shoot rollers and tracking shots for cars and bikes that’s the deal here without stabiliser it’s hard to shoot cars,later I will upgrade to big one
for a6400 should i get 50mm prime or kit lense?
You mean the 16-50 kit lens? Just wanted to clarify since there are a couple of kit lenses. And, what are you mostly filming?
This should be pretty obvious to most video shooters by now...IBIS in Sony bodies is completely useless for video. There, I said it. The difference in quality between the video shot with stabilization vs without is minimal. Only a gimbal will get you the requisite stabilization for quality video...that is unless you're shooting a remake of the Blair Witch Project. For stills, it may be useful for those low light shots (without flash), shot without a tripod, where the subject is still. Then you may see a benefit. But how often do you truly shoot that way? If you shoot any moving subjects, then IBIS/OSS is, to a great degree, meaningless unless you are a sports/wildlife photographer using superzooms. And even then, you are likely to be using a tripod/monopod. As such, if you have IBIS/OSS, then more power to you, but you should not base your decision on that feature unless your style of shooting is truly going to benefit from having it.
I actually agree with your input on IBIS not really being THE deciding factor for certain video work, especially in a Sony, and even more so with pro work where it's just best to use a gimbal anyway.
Appreciate your thoughts.
What kit are you rocking right now, or in the market for?
@@KevinRossRN I have a Sony A7III, but recently incorporated the A6400 as a replacement to the still great, but aging A6000.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated!
I was actually just about to purchase the A7III right as the a6400 came out. I know, full frame vs. aps-c, especially when I have the a6500. I just had to give this one a try though. Thanks again for your input.
people like you colaborate to camera brands keep not putting IS in their cameras. you need to pay for more acessories to have a just simple image stabilization. For me, the future is to have better IS or IBIS in the cameras, NOT cutting out
What settings do you have on Cine 4?
Just wanted to say that I see your comment. I'm not near the camera at the moment, but I'll give you that run down when I fire it up.
Hi, please give me a choise. Because i'm so confused about what i want to buy. Sony a7ii+kit 28-70mm, Sony a6400+18-105mm, Sony a6400+kit 16-50mm, or Sony a6500+16-50mm? Or you have a diferent choise? Actually i prefer for photography. Thanks before🙏
Do you have a preference of full frame vs APS-C? I love the a6400 and the 18-105, but this lens is so much better for video. The 18-135 would be better for photography.
@@KevinRossRN i like full frame, but the price for APS-C is more affordable for lens or the camera. And for full frame i just can buy a7ii. Or should i save my money for a6600? What the diferent a6400 and a6500 for photography? Who's the best? Btw thanks bro for your answer my question..
If you can save your money for the 6600, I'd suggest this camera for photography. Here's why:
1. It has built-in stabilization (IBIS), which I think in body stabilization is better for photography, especially at longer focal lengths. ..That being said...
2. The body is more expensive than the 6400, but the 6400 doesn't have IBIS. However, with the IBIS in the 6600, this would allow you to invest in very good lenses that are less expensive. Many Sony lenses have optical steady shot in them, however they are more expensive. Whereas the third party lenses from Sigma and Tamron are very capable and sometimes at half or a third of the price.
So, even though the 6600 is more, combining it with a non-stabilized lens at a lower price might allow you to come out ahead. It just depends on what focal length you're looking for.
Full-frame lenses are definitely more expensive. And, the A7ii is a nice camera, but the autofocus on the 6600 is going to be better in my opinion.
@@KevinRossRN but what if i buy a6500? It's recommend or i still should save my money for a6600? Because maybe take a long time for save my money to buy a6600:(
The 6500 is a great camera. In fact, I just used it yesterday. If you can afford the 6500 I'd say to not delay your start in creating. It has IBIS just like the 6600, so you can take advantage of those other (non stabilized) lenses.
If the price is almost the same, say the 6500 got a massive sale, which one would then be a better buy? Does color science differ much from the older 6500 to 6400?
The a6500 would be a good deal at that same price, however you won't get those extra picture profiles...color science is ever so slightly different. Basically you're getting the IBIS, which is not the best when compared to other cameras, but it's still there.
Would you miss having a flip up screen, and how about the 30minute recording limit?
We will see these deals in the next couple of months that will cause more confusion because there's some additional pending releases that we're anticipating in the pipeline. Not APS-C cameras, but likely an A7iii successor, which could potentially push pricing down of all these APS-C cameras...but simply put, if you've answered those questions and you're still good with it, it's a VERY capable camera. I plan on keeping my a6500 for a long time.
I have the a6400 and just bought the a6600 now. Still learning with both
You've got a killer combo there. What are you mostly filming, or interested in filming?
I do videos on CZcams. This is my channel right here. Subscribe right here.
OSS on a6500 looks great.
You mean the OSS lens paired with the built in IBIS of the a6500? Curious to hear your thoughts. 👍
I appreciate the incredible amount of work that has gone into this video and I don't intend on ruining an absolutley awesome comparison. Only one thing bugged me about this tutorial... The whole point of IBIS is the cut out the micro-jitters which are nearly eliminated due to the weight of the rig you were using. Don't get me wrong, this is not a bad comparison, it's just your nearly eliminating the main difference between the two camera's your comparing. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Good work otherwise though.
Yeah, I’ve done separate videos on a single rig setup, but you are right that the weight does help some with the micro jitters.
Appreciate your take here and of course your time. 🤘
You made a good effort, but carrying around a 6 pound rig has major stabilization qualities of its own. Also, the two comparisons were a little manic. Probably should have just walked the same path with each camera singularly, then done a split screen- since that's the way people are going to be shooting shooting in real world. Thanks tho!
Can Sony a6400 be used for professional photo sessions as wedding photography ?
Can it be used for professional filmmaking?
Most definitely. There are plenty of filmmakers that use these cameras on a pro level, including myself. Have you researched lenses because that's where the real investment is.
I made this video with a Sony a6300 and a DJI Osmo. facebook.com/Monterrubiofotovideo/videos/590208071712479/
Why is the 18-105 you Favorit zoom lens? And not the 18-135 or the 16-70?
Because I mostly shoot video, so the 18-105 is better (in my opinion) than the 18-135, which is good for photo... Although the 18-105 is very capable.
Also, I appreciate the extra focal length at 105 then 70. If I need to go as wide as 16mm, then I'm usually rocking the Sigma for most of those shots anyway. What are you currently filming with?
@@KevinRossRN i filming with the sigma 16 and the 30mm is very nice quality and i want to buy the 18-105 😉
@@s5hanom979 the Sigma line up is priced aggressively and hard to beat. Paired with the 18-105, I'm not sure you'd need much else.
@@KevinRossRN i don't know when you say it but i need a lens with this zoom 🤔
@@s5hanom979 well it's a great tool to have if you feel like you'd use it. I prefer primes for a lot of my filming, but the 18-105 handles a ton of my needs if it's the only lens in my bag. Great compliment to those Sigma lenses.
What is an affordable gimbel that you can recommend for a6400
When you say affordable…what’s your budget and primary filming situation?
@@KevinRossRN under 300
@@KevinRossRN trying to stabilize a6400 with sigma 16mm
The only one I know at that price would be the DJI Ronin SC. At least when it comes to what you get for the price. There are cheaper ones, but the cheaper you go, sometimes the more issues or limitations you have.
@@KevinRossRN thanks for the suggestion 👍
Does OSS gives more noise to the video? After u used OSS Lens the video starts getting noise
Well, do keep in mind that if it's the 16-50, this is a kit lens and not as sharp as the Sigma, which in my opinion is in another league.
I m confused which one should I buy for cinematography?
What do you plan to film? And have you researched lenses?
Just want to know Which body is better a6500 or a6400 for wedding cinematography
Planning to buy camera body ...so
Well again, it comes down to the lenses. If you're going to go with third-party lenses then I'd say 6500. But, if you're going to purchase Sony lenses with OSS, then hands down the 6400.
Nice bosque big like
Thank you. It's pretty much my back yard...so to speak.
I wanna buy the A6400 with the 100$ lens that goes with it, For a lot of "cinematic" content, should i be worried about having no stabilization?
Which lens are you looking at for $100?..Just so I know so that I can help.
@@KevinRossRN E PZ 16-50 mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS, thanks mate
@@KevinRossRN It's the kit, im just so i don't wanna look for a 500$ lens cuz im not even gonna use it to it's full potential. Probably gonna update later when i will be sure that im able to manipulate everything
That's a great attitude my friend. Just so you know, the lens is stabilized, so you're good there. I think the lens stabilization is better than the in body on the Sony cameras.
@@KevinRossRN Okay thanks. Great job!
sorry , If I were to buy a camera now, it is the first one in my life between a6400 vs a6500, used to make mv and vlog, but someone was holding the camera. Sometimes it's taken by yourself And if you buy a6500 2020, is it still interesting? thx i form thailand✌️
Is there a big difference in price between the 6400 and 6500? Also, have you thought about lenses that you would use with the camera?
The price here is the same. , No lenses yet Personally, I like to shake the a6500, so I want to ask if the actual use time, there is a vibration and no difference. 😂
Well with the 6500 giving you IBIS this would allow you to choose lenses without stabilization. Although the IBIS will get rid of micro jitters, there’s still going to be some shake.
Thank you. Finally, if you choose a camera for me 6500 6400 one of the value for a long time. Which camera do you choose for me?
Personally, the 6400 is my favorite. Just saying 😉
A little low-light demonstration would have been nice...
How about complete dark for the a6400?
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which camera is better for video clips 6400 or 6500 no matter the screen
For my use I'm always going for the 6400. Even with unstabilized lenses.
However, not sure what your budget is, but the 6600 price has dropped to 1198 USD amzn.to/344BWBe
Although I do see the 6500 selling for around the same price as the 6400, so I know it's a tough decision.
What type of filming are you looking to do?
For clip videos, I have mounted the 6400 on a gimbal with the 18-135 lens and the stabilization I did not like at all I want a good camera without spending much I am thinking of the 6500 with the lens 18-105
and have very good image quality
@@tobydiamondsofficial4213 The 18-105 is going to serve you well for video. The 18-135 is better for photography.
You're going to be just fine with the 6500 as far as quality. The sensors are the same. The auto focus is on point. You'll just lose a couple of picture profiles that are in the 6400, but I use a customized cine4 profile on the 6500 and it grades really well.
@@KevinRossRN thank you very much friend
If I want to use a gimbal anyway, which camera should I take? :) a6500 or a6400 ?
If you're using a gimbal, then definitely the 6400. I've not noticed any difference between the 6500 and 6400 on a gimbal. If you know how to balance it, and use it (with practice) you should be fine with just about any camera you put on it. 📸👊
@@KevinRossRN thanks :)
@@jajadeinemama1my pleasure 👊💥
Both are now new with the same price tag. Really hard choice between this two.
What would be your primary use case with either camera?
Kevin Ross. Great comparison! 90% vlogs and cinematic videos. 10 % photography. What is your advice? I do have a gimbal
a6400 all the way. If it's in your budget, the kit lens for the extra $100USD is worth it. Although when you're ready for a step up, for vlogging that is...then the Sigma 16mm is really hard to beat. I really don't think you'll be disappointed.
@@KevinRossRN Mainly products photography, plus minor videos shoot.
@@firebld it'll serve you well. I've been doing more product photos and doing more this month.
Again, the sensors are the same in these cameras, but there are some advantages to the a6400 like 1 stop better in low light, the auto focus is slightly faster, the HLG picture profile for video to name a few.
If your shots are locked off or using a stabilized lens, your photos are going to be just fine.
I think the a6500 is better, since IBIS can work with vintage and chinese manual lens.
Exactly. That’s a great point indeed. Still a great camera, even today.
The 16-50mm lens made the picture look so bad! It looked like 240p. It’s amazing what good glass can do.
I know. It has its moments where it looks okay, but the environment has to be ideal. I'm actually filming tomorrow showing a quick comparison of sorts with the 16-50. Not really a comparison, but I'm reviewing a lens that was my first upgrade from the kit lens, and I just want to highlight what it's like when you upgrade your glass.
Kevin Ross that sounds really awesome! I’ll made sure I keep an eye open for the new video to drop. Until then, keep on rockin on!
@@TJuice1986 you too brother, until then 👊
your A6400 + 16-50mm OSS look very steady, i tried to handheld my A6300 + 16-50mm OSS doesnt look as steady.
Are you using a handheld tripod?
@@KevinRossRN I don't have a handheld tripod, I just held it in my hand/palm. Because I got this A6300 so tried to used it as vlog camera without buying additional accessories. Does using a handheld tripod give different result?
A small handheld tripod can help. Are you able to stabilize the footage in post, or does is it look warped if you do?
@@KevinRossRN I tried to stabilize the footage in post, but it is warped because the original footage record is not stable. So not really able to stabilize it in post. Wil try again with a handheld tripod. Thanks for your video, at least I got some reference.
Yeah, getting a little more surface to hold onto may help. The manfrotto (handheld) is a pretty solid choice.
Best of luck.
u did not cleared==that when to use steady modes====and we should keep on or off that steady function
I believe the point was that the IBIS (in the camera) isn't the best on these Sony cameras, but the stabilization in the lens is pretty good. So, OSS and IBIS paired together are fine, but there seems to be little difference in the OSS only setup... What are you currently filming with?
@@KevinRossRN video song i am filming using gimbal==also some hand held shots==also trolly and dolley==so i should keep it on or off...i have seen many videos on this topic but non of them were clear in their ideas===
If you have IBIS, then keep it on. Even on a gimbal this can help eliminate micro jitters. Feel free to test it out, but I've personally noticed an improvement.
@@KevinRossRN in sony a6000....ibis is not there ...i think
No, there isn't IBIS in the a6000. What lens are you using?
If you're going to shoot locked off talking head stuff, there's no doubt the a6400 is the best crop Sony camera. In fact, a 6400 with any of the G master glass below f4 can produce absolutely top notch quality for this scenario. Just be aware that your work won't be Netflix capable because it's not 10 bit. So if you're going to shoot with an intention of making documentaries, then you're going to need 10 bit footage.
Well and being that this particular video is a few years old, there are several more 10-bit options out there now and I agree that it would be the way to go for any kind of filming and editing where you really need to push those colors without them falling apart in post. But for talking head, I still use it in the studio.
But also, yes, some great lens options would only help push what this camera is capable of.
I thik he used warp stablizer
You do?
If only I used Premiere 🤔
Please Help Me I Can't Decide Between A6400 VS A6500!
I Am A New Vlogger And Currently Using Canon 200D With Kit Lens 18-55mm And Soon Upgrading To One Of Them But I Want Rotatable Screen As Well As IBIS Because I Use It Handheld And I Will Be Using Kit Lens!
Please Suggest Me Which One Should I Buy Because I Am Thinking That If I Buy A6500 And Use Kit Lens, As I Won't Be Able To See My Face, Maybe My Face Gets Cut Etc When Taking A Shot!
And If I Buy A6400 So Maybe The Footage Will Not Be Stable!
A6500 With 10-18 Is Perfect But I Don't Have Budget For That And A6600 Is Like $500 More Expensive In My Country!
Please Suggest!
So in my opinion, if you're using the kit lens with the camera, I assume the 16-50? That lens has stabilization in it, and should be plenty stable for you even without the IBIS. As you probably saw in the video the IBIS is "okay" in terms of stabilizing the sensor in these Sony cameras. I believe the OSS would be enough for you to do handheld.
However let me also say that the flip up screen is nice for sure, but with the 16mm focal length, you'll likely be in frame anyway. But as I said to another person here in the community the 6400 is a great value compared to the other cameras. The 6600 did drop in price in the US, but it sounds like it hasn't in your country just yet.
Either way, 6400 with the kit lens will be great.
Kevin Ross ok thanks will definitely get a6400 soon❤️✌️
@@rayyannauman2884 best of luck with your decision. Feel free to keep me posted 📸👊
I dont know whether its due to maybe having different ND filters but the a6400 looks significantly better than the a6500
I still film with both of these cameras and honestly, I feel that I’m still getting a better image out of the 6400.
My guess is that the A6600 will drop alot in around 6 moonth. Just wait , thats my advice:) It looks nice tough:)
I agree that I think we'll see a bit of a discount because what's coming down the full frame pipeline, and how close in price the 6600 is (currently) to the A7iii.
What are you currently using now?
@@KevinRossRN i am using the a7 iii :) but i might change , the a7iv looks so nice.
@@tomslittlecorner The current A7Riv OR what Sony may launch as the successor to the A7iii, which would be the A7iv? Just wanted to clarify.
I've been trying to dig in on that a bit myself (the rumored A7iv) and really hope Sony steps up with a few extra features that comes in at around the same price as when the A7iii launched.
@@KevinRossRN sorry, i mean the current A7Riv 61mp camera :) I also hope they step up for sure, but for me, as i am more into photo is more interested in that 61mp, i am also considering the a7riii. That price is getting close to what i payed for my a7iii here in Norway almost two year ago,but, well...i am still waiting lol...its not easy:)
You are right...not easy. And yes, if I was primarily into photo that A7Riv would be tempting, but what would probably push me over the edge to a purchase would be the Riii with that price drop, honestly 📷
Best of luck on what you decide.
the a6400 af seems better to me from watching this. Although that could be the aperture.
It's still my main camera I film with... What about you? Do you currently have a setup, or looking to get started?
Nah, just like looking at reviews. I'm waiting for the new zv1 announcement I guess tomorrow.
I'm right there with you on that announcement. But mostly waiting on the A7iii or A7Sii successor.
Like it for the 6 pound effort
Ha! You currently filming with this setup?
@@KevinRossRN I use the a6400 with kit lens with OSS, sigma 16mm and sigma 35mm. The lack of IS bugs me a little bit since I can get more "pleasant" handheld vlogs with my iPhone. But honestly I don't think it's worth the upgrade at this moment. The time I do upgrade I think I'll go for a more expensive one than the a6500 or a6600. Any recommendations? I moved from Nikon to Sony and I'm loving it.
Nice. I understand the issue with micro jitters with handheld. Are you thinking or interested in full frame? Like the A7c?
@@KevinRossRN I believe the A7c would be my next step in the future, yes.
Then that would be my recommendation friend. It’ll help with those micro jitters handheld.
The 6500 hunts for focus when you don’t actively look at it
Do think the 6400 does have the marginal advantage here. The AF is really hard to beat on this camera. What are you currently filming with?
Kevin Ross iPhone 7+ but just bought a6400. Still in shipping though
Sweet! 🤞Hope it gets to you soon 📸 Always excited about new gear, even if it's not mine. 😀
A6500
It’s a good one. I still have it to this day.
why is 24p so popular....30p is way smooother.....
There are certainly opinions for either... To many individuals, 24 frames appears more "cinematic" while 30 frames often has a look that television shows depict.
However, I'm not saying one is necessarily better... It's just the look that the Filmmaker is going for. Just opinion of course, but to my eye 30fps that is edited in a 30 frame timeline reminds me of watching a news channel... But again, opinion. 😉📸
Histograms are hard I guess. Lol
You should cut back on your coffee consumption!
I suppose I could skip a morning hug every now and then.
Focus seems a lot better on the 6400... :/
You think? Appreciate your feedback. Do you currently film with Sony or looking to pick up one of these?
@@KevinRossRN Looking to pick one up. I want the 6500 because of the IBIS
IBIS is helpful...more for photography in my opinion, but helpful. a6500 is still a great camera. Just used it this morning for some BTS work I am doing on an upcoming video. Have you looked into the 6600 at all? It had dropped in price to 1199 USD, but back up now. Although I keep seeing it drop and go back up week to week.
@@KevinRossRN Oh true! I've considered getting a 80D as I've found one super cheap. But they don't have IBIS at all. :(
That's true. Also think about the lenses my friend. Camera bodies certainly do some of the work, but it's the lens that really helps make the camera. Do a little research on the lenses both for Canon and Sony. What I can tell you is that the third-party lens manufacturers (Sigma, Samyang, Tamron) make some great lenses at a fraction of the cost of the Sony and/or Canon lenses.
The autofocus on the Sonys are top notch, especially for the type of filming I do. We'll see what happens when the new Canon cameras are launched, although that'll obviously be delayed for a bit.
Sup
You said it. 🤘
A6400 is absolute trash for video. Photos are great
The best of them is the a6600 just due the to Z battery
I would agree the 6600 is a good camera, but you just have to ask yourself based on your use case whether the Z battery is worth the extra 500 USD. For some, it's a yes.
That savings however could purchase a battery grip (if you really needed it) or some better glass. Not knocking the camera though, just the price.
What are you currently using? Are you picking up the 6600?
@@KevinRossRN
I own the a6500, I'm not planning on the a6600 it's not even available yet
@@MichaelTapel a6500 is still a very capable camera. I was looking for a second body and had been using the a6500 for about two years...
I was going to invest in the A7iii, but then the a6400 came out, and had some features I was really after in my use case... So ended up making that purchase and certainly haven't regretted it at all.
I'll head into the full frame arena pretty soon. Just waiting to see what the a7siii is going to bring.
sony ibis is shit anyway. buy a6400. it's much2 better.