In-Body Image Stabilization vs Optical SteadyShot Part II
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 3. 07. 2024
- In this video, I compare OSS (A6400) to IBIS (A6500) for a second time - specifically in low light and with telephoto lenses.
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Your channel is one of the best for Sony users! Everything is to the point and no repetitions.
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Fantastic video! You just answered the question Iâve been trying to figure out for weeks!
Thanks
Iâm enjoying your analysis. Keep up the great work.
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
Thanks for addressing some of the questions about the last video, well done.
Thank you so much for this vĂdeo, you answered my questions about IBIS+OSS!!!
I love how pratical and informative your videos are. Thank you!
Finally the video I was looking for! Thanks man .
Incredible effort! And some startling observations.
Great work, as always!
I really like your videos! Bought the 6400 a month ago since my d7100 was stolen on vacation and couldn't be happier!
I just love your videos so so much, I always find everything I need in your review. Big thank to you đđđ
Makes sense!
Great video. Have a nice day!
thank you very much! I'm going to buy a camera and your videos are really helpful to decide!
Hi. I am a longtime subscriber and love your videos. My background is many years with Nikon digital equipment and 35mm prior to that, before switching over to a Sony NEX6 maybe 10 years ago. I loved its simplicity and we have made many trips and have many great memories in photos and videos using it with the kit lens and a Tamron 18-200 telephoto. I had played around some with the a6000 and a6300, but kept holding off with my local camera shop telling me a better replacement would be coming. I decided that was the a6500 and have put off buying one for various reasons, and then just when I was ready the rumors started and then now we have the a6400. Our camera uses anymore are with kids and grandkids and for travel and the occasional special moment here at home. I love technology (being an engineer and patent attorney) which is some of the reason I love your videos and approach to analyzing all of this stuff. But my question comes down to very simply, what to do and get now??? I see your My Gear list and am inclined to follow it exactly. But so far you are the only blogger I follow or respect who prefers the a6400 over the a6500. Also, while I probably don't need it, I have the funds to go up to a full-frame again but wonder if that would be a mistake if only because of size. Help if you can. And by the way, my Tamron telephoto is not as smooth as it used to be so I am looking for a replacement. You don't seem to use them much but it sounds like the Sony 18-105 would be your choice, is that correct? Thanks.
Great comparison and explanation, thanks!
Great video đ very helpful !!
Keep up the good work!!
This video explains almost all the questions that I want to ask. Excellent video. I was struggling to decide whether I should choose a6400 or not. But OSS lens with a6400 seem to be better for me
Thanks for this and for all your videos...are very good and easy to follow...thanks for all your time...
I think it is enough with OSS...and the performance of a6400 is very good, for me, better than a6500...
Great to see IBIS vs OSS side by side!
Another good one. i appreciate the insight.
Great video!!
So many dudes that do camera/photo videos just come off as total jerks. Really appreciate your no nonsense takes on camera gear.
great compare!! thank you ..
Very interesting. Thank you for the great video.
This was absolutely amazing. Really QUALITY content. Thank you.
Not only a really good comparison but also extremely informative on stabilization.
And I'm quite impressed by a6400. That indoor shot was surprisingly sharp on it!
I just wish Sony would fix the rolling shutter issue already. On the first video, specially (I saw them in sequence), it's pretty much unusable footage. The a7III doesn't have this issue, does it?
Thank you very much. Great Video.
love your books! God bless
Thank you! I always wondered about that...IBIS+OSS. I couldn't see any difference but I'm a still shooter.
Nice video and info. Thank you.
super helpful!!!!!!!!
Always wondered if the OIS with IBIS worked together
Is the oss only for photos
FINALLY. No one has done this yet and I am absolutely torn before these two cameras
Thanks for the great video.
excellent video!! it would be interesting to compare lenses with and without oss (sigma or another manufacturer) mounted on camera with or without ibis
Still a greate source of knowledge for someone who is new to these topics and wants to learn about the different elements of a system. :-D
Great video
Great comparison. Gonna think hard about the a6400 because handheld lower light performance is my priority.
Very interesting! Especially the last few minutes there you took the 55-210mm lense to the test! IÂŽm using the A6300 and this exact same lense for planespotting. Handheld it is quite difficult to get a sharp image with it at 210mm focal lenth (with OSS enabled). Maybe its just me having super shaky hands. Gonna need a Mono- or Tripod...
sweet! very helpful.
I'd say the sensor is probably better at iso 6400 in the a6400 giving a sharper image. the a6500 didnt seem to have that much motion blur imo. showing the stabilisation working very well at 1/4 of a second
I think that, on the last video, I mentioned that IBIS (a6500) makes it possible for me to handhold a manual 90mm lens where no-stabilisation (a6500) required at least a steady elbow rest.
Here is another advantage: the IBIS stabilisation makes manual focussing a lot easier. With the same lens, on the a6500 (ISBIS) I can even see detail at the higher focus magnification.
I think the processing speed influences on the sharpness with motion, because it's just like the vertical distortion in video mode when you turn your camera right or left caused by slow processing. So, if you use handheld camera, the a6400 will provide a faster processing than your hand's movement. On the other hand, with a slower processor like in a6500, the image processing won't be fast enough and it can lose more information. I don't know, but it makes sense to me.
Would you do a Part III to this with some Gimbal shot comparisons mixed in there?
Thanks for sharing. I was expecting more tests with no OSS lens, but it's clear that ibis does its magic enough. More curious if the astrophotography with a non OSS wide lens would be more improved with ibis.
When shooting astrophotography and using a tripod, you actually need to turn off all stabilization (both lens and in body). It seems counterintuitive but it is true! So a non OSS lens would not be improved with ibis turned on when shooting astrophotography (or any other time you are using a tripod...)
This is a great video! My experience is the OSS is better in some lenses. For example the original silver Sony E 18-200mm was really effective in my experience, especially zoomed all the way in. Half pressing the shutter really seemed like the view locked into place even as hands were moving, etc.
True! The same for SELP 18-200.
Same for 18-105
So I vote for the IBIS and wait for the A7000...Low light and wildlife are options that need improvement on Sony APC! Great video Thanks a lot.
Hi, thanks for the great videos as always and I leave one small comment here. when you compare images side by side, how about put some text on the screen? Because my english skill is not good, sometimes dont get it which camera is used on which side. love you bro.
Not the video we need, but the video we deserve.
Hi Arthur. Iâve read that the implementation of IBIS/OSS in the RX Sony series cameras is much better than 6000 series. Do you have an opinion on that. Canât seem to get an answer on this. Thanks. đ Good comparison.
Damn this video is great, after watching this. Picking the a6400 over the a6500 is a no brainer. But the real question is now, since the a6600 was released would that be worth picking up over the a6400? Put in a perspective of you picking your first camera and getting in photography/videography? a6400 or a6600? Thanks!
So as expected: If you want to use unstabilized lenses (as the great Sigma f/1.4 lenses), the IBIS of the A6500 is a real benefit. That's why the A6400 is no option for me and I wait for a real A6500 successor.
Im trying to wait also but growing impatient lol
Same
@@DanielConstant00 did you wait?
Jonathan Barrow no I bought the 6400 for a while sold it and pre ordered the 6600 but Iâm considering just adding the extra money and getting the a7iii
good video man.
I have a question: since the a6400 doesn't have IBIS, but relies on using lenses that have OSS stabilization, I'm wondering how sharp photos will turn out if I use lenses that don't have OSS? will the photos still be of good quality? is it good to use lenses without OSS on a6400?
I wonder that because lenses with OSS are much more expensive. I hope for an answer.
Would you be able to do a video comparing rolling shutter of the a6500 vs the a6400? Maybe including the differences between 4K and 1080p? Been trying to decide which one to get, but rolling shutter is one of my deciding factors and I'd like to see which one handles it best as I haven't found any videos showing it over the different recording formats.
The A6400 "rolling shutter" issue has not improved over the A6300 or A6550, like the FHD video quality...
my main objective is actually to video my dog daily hopefully telling a story eventually say 1 month to 1 clip.
Iâm considering getting a a6400 instead of using a9 for video as the smaller setup would allow me to have more opportunities to bring the setup out since it is much lighter. What are some of your thoughts?
Iâm debating with getting a6500 - better AF and focus tracking vs IBiS. But since it should be a run and gun shoot, i thought still need a gimbal as both the 6400 and 6500 will still produce shaky footage.
If itâs videoing from a stationary position. Having Power zoom lens like the 18-105mm should work?
from your conclusion, it seems that there is no point for me to wait for the a6500 successor since i still need a gimbal?
If you are shooting landscapes with a slow shutter, low ISO and a high aperture (8-16), will the stabilization affect sharpness? Should you turn IBIS off? Will an OSS lens affect sharpness?
this is a great content bro!! I have a6400 :D
I would look at compare between sony a6000 without any stabilisation (software, lenses) but with gimbal versus a6400+ with all stabilisation system + sony lens
Ahhhhh! I mentioned in the previous video that you didn't do the test with OSS in conjunction with IBIS. Now you have! THANK YOU! Just as I had surmised. In combination there should be an improvement. It's slight but a difference. Also, having IBIS for non stabilized lenses is a no brainer, especially in low light and telephoto situations. One other question? Do you have an overall image quality winner between the a6x00's? Has the sensor improved at all with each model, or are they really just the same?
Nice video, interesting like always. However, it doesn't seem to me that the poorer performance of a6500 in the "book shelf" picture comparison is a matter of motion and not even of focus. The picture of a6500 just looks more noisy. Maybe a6400 has just a better noise-reduction algorythm?
Nice job...
nice one
I have a a6400 with the 18-135mm, f3.5-5.6 kit lens and mostly do photography and not video. I want to buy a prime lens for the better sharpness and smaller f number (better bokeh and low light performance).
The choice is between Sigma 30mm f1.4 and Sony 35mm f1.8, the price being basically the same. Where the first seems to be sharper and better in low light but the second one has OSS.
So do I understand it correctly that if I want to shoot handheld pictures during the day and also at lower light (say 10/11pm in a street), the Sony lens with OSS would be a better choice?
Interesting the text was sharper with just OSS and the a6400. A testament to the speed of the AF system? Wonder what that book test would look like with an a6600
Gawd damn youâre making me want to pick up the 6400 now lol
The best stabilization is steady hands imo =p
Can you test telephoto with meike extension tubes, and try to take potrait at 210mm. I have searched a lot.. There is no video but many sites telling that focus range will decrease and we will get nice bokeh. Please do it bro... It will be nice trick it happens
Hallo I am intersted in still photography: what about legacy lenses (85, 105, 135 and 180 mm) and IBIS performance of Sony of A serie ? Thank you for your attention
Hello. Thx for explaining the principle of working oss+ibis. Could u do a comparison between only ibis and only oss in next video on the same focal length, please?..
That was his previous video
My mistake, OSS+IBIS vs IBIS only on same focal length.
Is there a big difference between different Gimbal models and different Gimbal manufacturers?
I really like your videos! Hey, do you have any "social accounts" where you upload some of your shots?
Hey man, thanks a lot for the videos. They are great!!! I would like to know if should I get a Sony 35mm 1.8 OSS or a Sigma 30mm 1.4 for the 6400? I mostly shoot video and handheld. Thank you!!!
I have the same question..
It's the 18-135 or the 18-105 better for Video?
I would have liked to see a comparison of OSS vs. IBIS (w/o OSS). I'm having a hard time deciding between the Sony 90mm f/2.8 and Sigma 105mm f/2.8 right now. The Sony has OSS, the Sigma does not.
Nice.
I just got an a6400. I would have liked to have ibis to allow me to buy some nice sigma non stabilized lenses. However, the price of the a6600 is too close to full frame cameras in my opinion and just too expensive for what you get.
I can see me upgrading to full frame some time in the future and this a6400 will be enough for me to get back into the groove as its been a few years since my DSLR days. So far I'm super impressed with it, especially the auto focus!
Hi, could I get a extra stabilise if I buy Sony a7s3 and OSS lens like Sony 24-105?
hello bought a Sony a6400 lens kit wanted to buy a cheap lens with good autofocus is sharp for video that was good also for photos ... thanks
I prefer have 2 option use ibis with not stabilized lenses like sigma art or cheap lenses adapted I have and use native stabilized lenses (we know that the stabilization don't make miracles but It helps a lot )
Great
Iâm looking for the best mirrorless or DSLR for around $1200 or less (body only) to record my nieces. One is a gymnast and the other does local community theater. I will be purchasing a 70-200mm f2.8 lens for whatever body I choose as well. Iâm looking for eye autofocus that functions in 4k. Some have suggested Sony a6600 (Iâm a little concerned about the rolling shutter) others have suggested Canon M6 Mark ii (some have said eye autofocus doesnât work in 4k) Any help from any other viewers would also be appreciated.
can you do a video of using 3 sigma lenses on the 6400 for video? I am deciding between 6500 or 6400
if you watched this video than its clear that 6400 is way better
If youâre not using a gimbal, and want to use sigma lenses, you need to get the a6500. Otherwise your videos are going to be bad.
6600
Can you pls make a comparison with raw Files instead of jpeg. The a6400 got a better processor, i think thats one (!) reason for sharper Images.
To be honest I am disappointed from the ibis, was the only reason why I switched to the a6500. The Sony Ibis is not that great and itâs not worth it as a important reason to change. Thanks for your effort and time.
don't know about you guys, but I can take crisp images at 1/10sec f/1.4 iso100 hand held with my a6000 / sigma 16mm. probably because of a small focal length..
so basically, the advantage A6500 have over the A6400 is in the video stabilization department. in the still photo , a6400 even slightly beat the a6500.
if you take video a lot and using non native lenses like myself (sigma 16mm f1.4) go for a6500,
otherwise, go for a6400 for sure.
Yes I think the same the a6500 it's better for video when you don't have stabilization in the lenses .
no its not just in videos, if u use primes u will face a huge difference between a6500 vs a6400 in any condition> a6500 is totally a winner
Didnt watch it but now it's going to be great
Cheers for the video and good work!
One thing you also should have included was tests with lenses without OSS on the A6400 and A6500.
Christian Wagner Photography I did that with the Sigma 30mm in my last ibis/oss video.
What a pity you didn't compare OSS vs IBIS only (you compared OSS vs OSS+IBIS). That was exactly what I was looking for.
This is part 2. He did that in part 1.
@@mikeydoes Thanks! I watched it. Unfortunately he used very fast shutter speeds, so you can't draw any real conclusions. Hopefully he'll upload another video with shutter speeds lower than the reciprocal rule.
Yayy
Can u compare oss and ibis with a6300 and 6500
Anoop Raju 6300/6400 is just the same. Very similar performance oss vs ibis.
The downside using 6000/6300/6400 is that when you mount non-oss lens, it get shaky.
Please do a video on the firmware update for the Sony A6000. I can't believe I haven't seen one? Also I do wonder of you can use of Sony update of different models? Its all about 1 and 0's, I cant believe a smart hacker hasn't opened the software to cameras and allow us to update any Sony camera
Thanks for the video! I've been thinking of getting the A6400 (from my old NEX-5R), and I also use the Sigma 56mm F1.4 lens. Just wondering without IBIS and OSS, how will the A6400 + Sigma 56mm do hand-held in low light?
as long as you use shutter speed above 1/100, it think it should be fine for still photography.
but for video, expect many small jitters in your video,
im using a6500 with sigma 16mm f1.4 and when i turn off the IBIS, the micro jitters is quite noticeable,
so i guess it will be more noticeable in your case , since you're using a longer focal length (56mm)
@@utsmanzu0907 Cool , tks~ I rarely shoot videos, so I guess that should be fine then XDDD
As you saw in his video (bookshelf scene): Handheld in low light without any stabilization looks terrible. It will also look terrible with the A6400.
@@Thunderbird1337 Yeah... I suppose my hands need to be really steady... that's why I am torn in between getting the A6400 and the A7III...
@@ashiohsiao Or you wait for the A6500 successor which will hopefully come this year.
IBIS on the Panasonic GH5 is so smooth that it can be used for walking around.
but iso sucks
IMO, stabilisation on aps-c generally not that great, comparatively to micro four thirds Panasonic or Olympus 5-axis in body
In the comparison at 8:50 you compare OSS vs IBIS + OSS but from the exif it shows that both were shot with the a6400. How is that possible?
George Papamichail ISO is 6400, thatâs not the camera info
@@ArthurR Oh yes my bad. Looks like I crave this new a6400 too much..
Hy! Bto iam new to your channel... Loved and watched all your previous videos... Sony Alpha a6400...is a professional camera for photography or not? ??đ€đ€
I think it depends on your skills and not the gear
And to answer your question, yes I saw professionals using this camera In many Photography situations
Thanks bro! You are right skills are important than gear... U need to learn diving first then we can become a racer or a car driver..
And gear is not important than skills... If I have a Lamborghini but don't know how to drive then how can I become a racer... Thanks for replying... đ
Can you name the studios.... So, I can grab some information about Sony a6400...see I have a very low budget but, have a deep interest to be a pro or best photographer... So, I cannot a afford a another body atleast for 5-7 yrs.... So, I need my first camera work as a beginner camera at the start and professional as I grow....
sir, do you know if there are third party lenses for sony a6000 series that have lens stabilization?.
Ron En Sony 50mm 1.8 Oss
Next video: compare sharpness no-IBIS-body vs IBIS-body but IBIS is off ))
Sony needs to fix the rolling shutter...its awful
And also the FHD 1080p video quality.