Why The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula Is The Most Forgotten Golden Era Performance Car

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  • The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula was one of the great performance cars of the Golden Era. Find out why this great car is so overlooked.
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  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock Před 3 měsíci +118

    Back in the spring of 72 I ordered (courtesy of my parents) a new 72 Formula 400. The agreement was for me to order a 350 2 barrel as a college car. Naturally, I instead ordered a Formula 400 in a burnt orange with honeycombs. The order got cancelled by the dealer a few weeks later due to the factory strike. That October I ordered a 73 TA 455, having been told that the SD-455 was on indefinite hold. Drove that car for four years then bought a low mile 74 TA 4 speed SD-455 in 1978. I still have that car, now with 14k miles.

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 Před 3 měsíci +31

    The twin scoops were so cool

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Před 3 měsíci

      Till it rained

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yup. I actually like the twin snorkel scoops better than the T/A shaker.

  • @gmoney1592
    @gmoney1592 Před 3 měsíci +69

    Man do I miss Pontiacs.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Gone but not forgotten, thanks to media like Smokey & The Bandit, Knight Rider and, more recently, I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yes. Even 90s ones.

    • @OspreyFlyer
      @OspreyFlyer Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah same, my wife and I had some Pontiacs: Trans Am, Sunbird, Grand Am.

    • @formula73
      @formula73 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I bought a 73 Formula when I was a junior sailor back in 2001. Still have it.

    • @gmoney1592
      @gmoney1592 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@formula73 Nice man. Great car I love that year and style .

  • @thepassionofthegoose5472
    @thepassionofthegoose5472 Před 3 měsíci +22

    When I was a child my dad had a 70 Formula 400 in granada gold, and an 87 Formula with a 305 TIP in silver when I was a teen. Needless to say he was a Firebird guy.

  • @HerbLarge
    @HerbLarge Před 3 měsíci +17

    I’m lucky enough to have a 71 ram air ho 455 4 speed car with all of its factory drivetrain still in it. It is fun to drive!

  • @ronb493
    @ronb493 Před 3 měsíci +23

    One of my favorites as a kid. Brings back memories.

  • @blainesnider9089
    @blainesnider9089 Před 3 měsíci +25

    I still have my 70 formula400

  • @lancairw867
    @lancairw867 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Memories. In the early 80s my teen neighbor had a 72 Formula Firebird 🐦‍🔥. I remember my 13 year old self being pushed back in the seat and see the hood rise as he did a pull. Awesome 😎 his dad was high up at Comp Cams in Memphis.

  • @joedoyle7799
    @joedoyle7799 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Back in 1980 my parents were looking for a new car for my dad, they brought several test drives to the house, mostly GMG bodies until my dad pulled up in a Firebird formula 301 turbo. I didn’t believe him when he said he bought it but he did and it’s still in our family today. 10 years of fighting with a turbo he had put in a custom built 400 with a 400 transmission, it’s a Family heirloom

  • @EvanBarr-uk3vk
    @EvanBarr-uk3vk Před 3 měsíci +14

    1973 formula sd looks so clean

  • @JustK009
    @JustK009 Před 3 měsíci +73

    When America built REAL cars

    • @Tony_417
      @Tony_417 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Have you seen the mustangs, Camaros, and challengers of the last 10 years Forrest Gump? I would call those REAL cars with record breaking horsepower numbers. Such an ignorant comment founded in none sense. I’m sure you’re very proud of your 40 year old firebird parked outside your doublewide trailer. But the muscle cars of the last 10 years are amazing technological marvels.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@Tony_417 sure the performance of the newer cars is better, but the styling and the entire image is completely based on the older cars you just knocked. The originals were just that & weren’t trying to be something they weren’t.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@Tony_417 and apparently you’ve been living under a rock because you haven’t seen the prices of these Firebirds lately. None of them are parked outside a double wide Einstein.

    • @appleiphone69
      @appleiphone69 Před 3 měsíci

      My S550 Mustang has great styling and performs as both a muscle car and sports car. 460 HP and cooled seats.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y Před 2 měsíci

      @@appleiphone69 given the performance of these new cars, I'm amazed that so many are paying so much for the run of the mill turds of the 60s and 70's....

  • @jerryleejohnsonjr1377
    @jerryleejohnsonjr1377 Před 3 měsíci +8

    My first car was a 73 Firebird that I paid 800 bucks for in 1982 before I even had a drivers license, I still dream of having that same model again.

  • @m1a1hm
    @m1a1hm Před 3 měsíci +27

    I think the 70 to 73 Firebirds are the best looking firebirds made I got a 71 Firebird Formula 400 .

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Před 3 měsíci

      Agreed and almost impossible to find these days.

    • @m1a1hm
      @m1a1hm Před 3 měsíci

      @@danmyers9372 Your right they are hard to find well a least around where I live as a kid in the 80s there were only two guys I knew who these year model firebirds and the 71 Firebird I got came from California

  • @Paulie1232
    @Paulie1232 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I own a firebird and I loved it...beautiful car 🚗 😊

  • @csumme7
    @csumme7 Před 3 měsíci +5

    A friend of mine in high school had a blue 71 Formula. It was a great looking sports car from the 70s.

  • @Plombo_5
    @Plombo_5 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Those were the days

  • @gt-37guy6
    @gt-37guy6 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I spent a fair amount of time in a 71 Formula, Black with white stripes and 3 speed manual - high school buddy's car. It was not a quarter miler, but holy cats it was fun to ride on curvy roads at say 120 - 130 mph! Very impressive handling compared to the basic cars of the day, and very good brakes. I have to this day not seen another 350 3 speed manual Formula - but I know they are around.

  • @mikemc330
    @mikemc330 Před 3 měsíci +15

    I didn’t forget about them. I love the look of those beautiful cars!

    • @warrenny
      @warrenny Před 3 měsíci

      No one who actually is a car person has forgotten them. It's just a marketing tool for CZcamsrs to get clicks.

  • @luisvelasco316
    @luisvelasco316 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I always liked Panch's Formula on the show "Chips" which had the dual Formula hood scoops together with a Trans Am shaker scoop.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Před 3 měsíci

      All 3...? Wow

  • @905cavillac2
    @905cavillac2 Před 3 měsíci +4

    That's funny this came across my feed as yesterday I seen a 70 Formula fully restored in a champagne color, absolutely stunning car and very underrated, but I love me a good Formula Firebird✌️

  • @BCaldwell
    @BCaldwell Před 3 měsíci +13

    Thanks for continuing to make these videos Sir 👌

  • @landiahillfarm6590
    @landiahillfarm6590 Před 3 měsíci +4

    '71-'73 Formula's are IMHO one of the best looking musclecars of all time. Sadly I never owned one, but I did have a '70 GTO so I totally get it!

  • @69Applekrate
    @69Applekrate Před 3 měsíci +18

    nicely done. not sure if you were clear but, in 1970, all Formulas had 400 engines. The rear spoiler and 350 and 455 engines became avail for 1971.

  • @bobc8649
    @bobc8649 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Always wanted a 71-73 Formula with a 455 SD. Add the twin scoop hood with ram air ! Owned a 69 GTO 400/ 355 hp so I got the whole Pontiac vibe.

  • @allanbacon2977
    @allanbacon2977 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Was my favorite car 🐦‍🔥

  • @scotsiegel35
    @scotsiegel35 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I had a 70 formula 400 with 330 hp.stock growing up in 71 and 72 my Jr and Sr high school year's. I could blow away 396 Camero's, no problem It was the fastest car I ever owned in my life. Oh yeah it had a 4 speed with a Hurst T shifter. What a great car.

  • @brandonpetchnick1182
    @brandonpetchnick1182 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I asked for this one some time ago. No idea if you saw the request. It's awesome. I absolutely love your channel.😊

  • @jaydcs6298
    @jaydcs6298 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Those hood scoops made the car.

  • @braddietzmusic2429
    @braddietzmusic2429 Před 3 měsíci +12

    I just like these Firebirds in these 3 year a bit more than Camaros of the same years. I never get tired of looking at them.

  • @georgewilson1184
    @georgewilson1184 Před 3 měsíci +21

    Actor James Garner portraying low budget ex convict frugal Private Detective James Rockford drove Firebird Esprit but because he really enjoyed driving and doing his own stunt work his firebirds were actually Formulas badged as Edprits LOL

    • @RivetGardener
      @RivetGardener Před 2 měsíci +2

      His car is a classic. And those J turns he did!

    • @georgewilson1184
      @georgewilson1184 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@RivetGardener well I said low budget maybe not his standard fee $200 daily plus expenses 😆 that may be cheap now but back in the 1970s that was a hefty fee

    • @ONTHEEDGEFRED
      @ONTHEEDGEFRED Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@georgewilson1184yeah that was pretty good money back then, considering I worked all week for $50 less than one day of his salary . I made 375 per hour which comes out to $150 a week before taxes

    • @will7its
      @will7its Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah he drove the secretary version.....lol

    • @1990notch
      @1990notch Před měsícem +1

      My favorite show of that time.

  • @benniebarrow348
    @benniebarrow348 Před 3 měsíci +2

    My favorite classics ......1970-1976 Pontiac firebird and 1970-1973 Camaro. Gorgeous cars no doubt.

  • @peterbedrosian622
    @peterbedrosian622 Před 3 měsíci +5

    great video

  • @KevinSan88
    @KevinSan88 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The early nose with the twin hood scoops, is my favorite front end of the 2nd gen ‘birds

  • @danbaumann8273
    @danbaumann8273 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Love those hoods. Liked them even more than the T/As shaker. So, if I understood everything correctly the Formula was basically equal to a T/A if so equipped and the only difference would be trim and graphics. Great video.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@FranzAntonMesmer Yeah, the 442s were pretty cool.

    • @cmte.brazinazzo2061
      @cmte.brazinazzo2061 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Instrument Panel didn't had the metal finish, even if you wanted, I believe.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@cmte.brazinazzo2061 Yes, the metal dash was only in the T/A, you couldn't gey it in the Fornula.

  • @billmcmurtrie1142
    @billmcmurtrie1142 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'd love to have a '71 Formula 400 Firebird. Best looking Firebird ever.

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers Před 3 měsíci +5

    SD455 is one of the awesomest cars ever created

  • @jackduguid177
    @jackduguid177 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I had a new white/blue
    1972 Trans Am..
    I traded in my ‘66 GTO..
    Wish I had kept
    them both..

  • @jamescunningham4180
    @jamescunningham4180 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I took my driver's test in my mom's formula 400 firebird 1974 recommended premium no pollution. Back window didn't drop yet!! Gold very fast 🇺🇸🏁🏁😊

  • @chris.swearengin
    @chris.swearengin Před 3 měsíci +3

    I do like the trans am, but the firebird I would take the second gen. That would be my favorite out of the first two. I do like the videos. Please share more of them take care.

  • @johnhull6363
    @johnhull6363 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Nailed it with this one. Being younger, I had a 91 formula 5.7L bought new

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Had a high school buddy who bought a used 1971 or 72 Formula 455 around 1974. That car was really impressive. Great power (torque) and it handled better than pretty much any muscle car of that era. I had a 1970 Mach 1 351 and the Firebird beat my Mustang in pretty much every way imaginable. Out of curiosity I occasionally check the used market for these cars and rarely do I find one. Decent examples seem to be extremely rare especially given how many were produced.

  • @teddyghioto
    @teddyghioto Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have had lots of firebirds and trans ams lemans and even a fiero with a 350 in it over the years..Right now i have a 83 grand prix 350 in it a 96 firebird formula lt 1 and a 97 firebird v 6...LOVE MY PONTIACS...

  • @mikee2923
    @mikee2923 Před 2 měsíci +1

    70-73 Formula is my all time favorite. Especially when equipped with the 455. With the 73 SD as the holy grail.

  • @madmike2624
    @madmike2624 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This content is so fantastic!!, facts to back it up is even better!! Keep up the most interesting and fact filled channel!!`!Bravo !~!

  • @jimsteele2072
    @jimsteele2072 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I agree, my buddy back in like 1978 had a 71 formula 400, black with tan interior, cragars, I wished that was my car ...
    I had a 68 Sattellite , still was badass

  • @michaelsimmons261
    @michaelsimmons261 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Aaa the good Old days 😊

  • @cva1122
    @cva1122 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Keep them coming. I look forward to each and every one.
    When I load CZcams, if you have a new video, it's the first one I click. Everytime.

  • @weekendgarage3299
    @weekendgarage3299 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Pontiac made some iconic cars!

  • @ArmansAdventures
    @ArmansAdventures Před 23 dny

    This Firebird is very attractive. I saw it a few weeks ago. I saw the movie and I posted it on my page.
    Thank you for your interesting video 👌👍🏻🇱🇷

  • @mikeks8181
    @mikeks8181 Před měsícem +2

    I owened a 1975 Firebird Formula that I bought as my first car in 1982. It was underneath set up for rally racing! The gears would only let It get up to about 100 but That Silver Bird Would Turn on a Dime No matter the speed! I Miss it so much!

  • @carlc5748
    @carlc5748 Před 3 měsíci +3

    John De Lorean looked to Ferrari to help design the 1970 Firebird. it was supposed to be exclusive for Pontiac. GM people insisted that the camaro get the same design, or the Pontiac design would get the proverbial axe. My cousin has a 1970 Firebird, and told me this little known background story.

  • @josephcameron530
    @josephcameron530 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent presentation. Awesome cars!

  • @goodbonezz1289
    @goodbonezz1289 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Early second generation Firebirds and Trans Ams would be the main reason why I’d want a time machine…

  • @kencooper2059
    @kencooper2059 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Beautiful cars!

  • @user-ju8ss7wo5r
    @user-ju8ss7wo5r Před 2 měsíci +1

    I bought a '72 red formula 350 summer of '79. It came with a junkyard receipt for the replacement engine, said: '73 pontiac 400. A year later, while replacing the fuel pump I discovered it was a 455. To this day, I think it may have been a SD. At 6 K rpms it still had torque. Paid $300 for it!

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar Před 3 měsíci +2

    I have 88 Trans Am GTA and I love it but I would like to have one of early 70s too.

  • @vandalorianvandalorian4769
    @vandalorianvandalorian4769 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I had a ‘70 Formula 400!
    That sucker was FAST!
    I miss it so much!

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT Před 2 měsíci +1

    My aunt had a white one with all the performance options. I was a couple years too young to buy it when she sold it and in mint condition 😮

  • @trent1984
    @trent1984 Před 2 měsíci +1

    My favorite muscle car ever

  • @blackscotydog
    @blackscotydog Před 3 měsíci +4

    RIP Pontiac.......

  • @misterenergy959
    @misterenergy959 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nothing can put me to sleep like a good OCM video….. keep them coming !

  • @767driver
    @767driver Před 2 měsíci +1

    My Dad had a 72 Lemans. A great car, kept it 20 years with no major mechanical issues.

  • @WaltANelsonPHD
    @WaltANelsonPHD Před 3 měsíci +1

    I look forward to your posts. Thanks!

  • @pinchnloaf
    @pinchnloaf Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love these cars. And that’s how I feel about my LT1 Camaro. You get the SS drivetrain but can option it sleek and light

  • @Litt646
    @Litt646 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I had a 73, loved that car!

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I had a white 73 SD 455 Trans Am. Regrets still run deep for selling it!!!!!

  • @chadkimmel8957
    @chadkimmel8957 Před 2 měsíci +1

    These are my favorite years for Firebirds.

  • @darrellsaunders4267
    @darrellsaunders4267 Před 3 měsíci +1

    A guy I ran around with in high school got a 70 Trans Am brand new...white with blue stripe. 5700.00 plus change.
    I had A 68 Firebird 400....I could keep up with him neck and neck to 100mph. He had it up to 157 mph one night and it still had room.

  • @johngranato2673
    @johngranato2673 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I nearly bought a used 72, with the hood scoops. However, I was short $60, So, I asked my dad for a loan, but he didn't have the money. So, I bought a 73 Buick Century. Oh, well. Fifteen years later, I was able to buy a 68 GT 350 Fastback. I still love the Pontiac, though.

  • @JackF99
    @JackF99 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm a Mustang guy but IMO the 70-73 Firebird Formula was the best looking Pony Car of all time.

  • @georgeford6439
    @georgeford6439 Před 2 měsíci +1

    My fave years of TA/FB.....

  • @ricknorton1732
    @ricknorton1732 Před měsícem

    1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula Is my favorite

  • @bryanmchugh1307
    @bryanmchugh1307 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My first car was a 1976 red Camaro. It was a nice car.

  • @midnightsun2483
    @midnightsun2483 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I always liked the formulas

  • @user-ui8or8cq7l
    @user-ui8or8cq7l Před 3 měsíci +3

    I only wish the 70-73 had the T/A front fender vents.

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Gorgeous cars! I wish that the GM motor company didn't make the Corvette the car that no other car built by Chevrolet or Pontiac couldn't be faster.

  • @manddservice.manddservice
    @manddservice.manddservice Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great Video

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats Před 3 měsíci +1

    Flush mount side markers really cleaned up the car over the Camaro.

  • @danam0228
    @danam0228 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Spot on mon ami

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas9105 Před 3 měsíci

    I had the luck to own a 73 Z/28 LT/RS back in the 80's. LOVED that car, but I always thought the Poncho's were better looking. And the Formula's set up right were a running, gunning SOB. The Ram Air Hood was Probably the best cold air induction ever on a factory GM car.
    When I win the lottery... LOL.

  • @excelerater
    @excelerater Před 3 měsíci +1

    love these ,455

  • @SierraBravo347
    @SierraBravo347 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Now we're tawkin....

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT Před měsícem

    My aunt had a Formula with all the performance options, white on white. Sold it decades ago in mint condition for $4k😢😢 and I was too young to buy it 😢

  • @MrWill73
    @MrWill73 Před 3 měsíci

    Definitely one of the most underrated and unrecognized muscle car. Strongest engines with no excess weight and had only what you needed. Slimed down prized fighter. Optioned correctly, it was a mid 13 second car totally stock. Blew away the Road Runner and beat it at its own concept.

  • @bobdavis3357
    @bobdavis3357 Před 3 měsíci

    I want a 72 T/A 455 H.O. Car ran mid 13s stock, 13.5 @105 with the automatic TH400

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats Před 3 měsíci +2

    The gap on the front bumper valance drives me nuts! They could have done MUCH better than that.

  • @ceejay960
    @ceejay960 Před 2 měsíci

    Really rare cars these days, probably because so many have been converted to a Trans Am, since for so many years that's what most collectors wanted.

  • @shayzayit
    @shayzayit Před 3 měsíci

    ❤Pure art ❤

  • @smellsuperb1
    @smellsuperb1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Absolutely not forgotten, this was the best of the second generation, especially '70-'71.
    1970 (year i was Born) is not coincidentally the best year of muscle cars across the board. '72-'72 isn't bad either but those had reduced compression and the beginning of emissions restrictions.

  • @charlesdiggs5297
    @charlesdiggs5297 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love the coverage, but you neglect to mention that the 1970 strike cut production.But this was john delorean's best work at gm

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion Před 3 měsíci +1

    Best Formula & T/A body style and nose. A jet intake nose.👍🏼

  • @gunsbeersmemes
    @gunsbeersmemes Před 3 měsíci +3

    Can you do the G-Body Grand Prix GT?

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u Před 3 měsíci +2

    I've always preferred the Formula over the Trans Am; it had cleaner styling, and was a much better performance bargain

  • @thunderray1987
    @thunderray1987 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The best-looking Firebird is still the '79-'81!! I would take a '79 Firebird Formula 400 or a T/A, either one.

  • @michaelcoffey7362
    @michaelcoffey7362 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice 😊

  • @buckshot6481
    @buckshot6481 Před 3 měsíci

    The best thing Pontiac ever built next to the GTO.

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif Před 3 měsíci +2

    i like the 2nd generation. i like 455 ho.

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love GM cars before the 5mph bumper standards

  • @mikyl-fo8rh
    @mikyl-fo8rh Před 3 měsíci

    Then came the rectangular headlights 😖
    What surprises me is the industries' tardiness in providing 4-speed automatics especially given their other technological gymnastics to improve fuel economy and performance in the 70s.

    • @davesmith9684
      @davesmith9684 Před 2 měsíci

      meh.. nationwide speed limit was still 55mph. It was cheaper to go with numerically lower rear gears

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You should probably clarify that the HP ratings after 1971 are net, rather than gross