"I'll Fight You, If You Disagree With Me"
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2022
- Today I'm talking about The Smiths and more specifically their song "The Queen Is Dead". As I was reacting to this I remembered how much I love Morrissey as a vocalist and lyricist (regardless him as a personality.) I can now safely say, that if you challenge me after watching this that I'm wrong...I will fight you. Please, make use of the comments below to state your feelings.
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#Morrissey #thesmiths #thequeenisdead - Hudba
Mozza once dropped a couple of quid in my guitar case when I was busking. I said ‘Thank you!’, he said ‘See ya!’. Makes me smile to this day. I bought some Rich Tea biscuits with his kind donation and whilst I haven’t busked in many years, whenever I have a cuppa I tend to remember that moment.
That's the most British thing that ever happened.
Unbelievable mate. I mean, Rich Tea of all biscuits!
This could be made up & it’s still cool 😂
Such a wholesome anectode! ❤
Cool. What were you playing at the time?
My 14 year old niece said she liked “Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now”. I dropped everything and made a playlist with her of The Smiths and Morrissey. I wasn’t going to let the flame of interest die!
That was the song that did it for me too
Almost nothing compares to the moment you hear The Smiths for the first time and realise you have four albums + a heap of other great songs and singles to discover. A succinct but perfect career.
It's rare that you have a band with a guitarist as exceptional as Marr who plays utterly without ego. You can count on one hand how many (brief) solos there are in Smiths records, he never sounds like he's constrained by this and fighting to break out. Brilliant player and brilliant musician.
"Auto-fuck-off, more like." THIS is why we love you, Justin. Pitch correction kills the soul of the vocalist AND the listener. Rock on!
Love it when Grimes does it in “Kill vs. Maim,” when the vocals get K-Pop high, nigh unreachable. (I don’t feel that’s cheating in that case though … I think it might be too high to humanly sing for most adults 😳😊)
I didn’t know I need Justin Hawkins in my life 6 months ago but apparently I do every single day
Haha I know it's weird innit.
Even though Morrissey and Marr were the writers they had a great rhythm section in Joyce and Rourke, all 4 were fantastic! Love this song and album.
Underrated comment!
Rourke's bass + Joyce's drumming MADE the Smiths
Andy's bass on the whole catalogue is AMAZING and they wouldnt have been the same without him
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree , his playing is way more impressive than Johnny Marrs
Andy needs more as a pure guitarist as any. true.He grounds the Smiths like no other.
I've been learning bass guitar for 3-months now and I have made incredible progress. I have been learning songs I really like, but some bands are surprisingly difficult. I can say with some certainty that its going to be at least another year before I touch a Smiths song. He is a beast on that bass, yet he plays it in such a nonchalant way!
@@MrJambot Been learning bass 2 years too but wont even try to play what he did
Morrissey is indeed a force of nature. Ive admired his work for some years and finally saw him at Blackpool a few weeks ago. Despite his age, despite the people who discredit him, he was on absolute peak form. I hope to see him again sooner than later #VivaMoz
Morrissey is one of a kind and an absolutely unique talent. They don’t come along very often and should be treasured.
I only got into The Smiths about 18 months ago, having overlooked them in the 80's. I wish I could have turned the clock back 35 years and appreciated The Queen Is Dead when it was released. Great album. Great band. I adore Morrissey, one of the funniest and most intelligent lyricists ever.
they had an outstanding bass player
agreed - criminally underrated!
Andy Rourke
They had an outstanding rhythm section period. Rourke and Joyce are under rated.
And Marr and Mozzo are famous for keeping them (Rourke and Joyce) from royalties and merch profits. Much like Ian and Billy of the Cult.
@@stephenwolfram356 I think that's been overplayed a bit as Rourke is still a great mate of Marr.
“her very lowness” one of my favourite lyrics of all time its just fantastic yet simple
Incredible song. What I love about Mozza's delivery of the line " life is very long when you're lonely" is that it sounds like elation more than sadness. Like he is smiling inside and thinking to himself " I am totally fine with that."
Love this comment ❤ 👏
Saw him in Kerry in Ireland a month ago and he was brilliant still has the voice, was the first live show I got goosebumps when he played how soon is now 4 songs in, best sounding concert I'd ever been to by far. He joked about his perception in media etc and never preached or anything so he still puts on an amazing show and people shouldn't be put off by his politics or anything and still catch him while he's still here.
The show where he tripped on stage,
serves him right for coming to Ireland but only playing One gig on this tour, measley Mozzer, must try harder😆
@@johncollins5552 lolwut
The queen is dead is one of THE best albums of all time !!
fuck yeah.
A few nights ago, I was walking past the bathroom where my 13 y/o daughter was taking a shower. I heard an unexpected sound so I placed my ear on the door. I quickly realized that she was singing along to This Charming Man. I’ve only ever heard her play rap so I was shocked and delighted. 4 days have passed and I still haven’t said anything because there’s nothing more uncool than your parents telling you that something is cool.
I hope your daughter hears the magic !
Just wait until she finds out what happened to Morrissey in his old age.
@@Nayson don’t be a crashing bore
@@leadbelly1495 I know you want to crowbar in a pun or three, but openly supporting the far right on TV makes Morrissey a racist cunt. He’s made some fantastic music, separate art and artist yada yada yada but fuck his politics.
@@Nayson he continued to write & perform outstanding music?
This song is amazing. The Smiths were amazing. I can go years without listening to them...and then something like this crops up and I'm floored all over again. Thank you Justin. You made my day.
Being a twenty year old in the early eighties , going to art college , How soon is Now , was a siren call to the alternative music scene, that slide guitar unbelievable , Ive listened to that song thousands of times since then and still gives me shivers
I was a bit younger, but How soon is Now, still gives me shivers too! Hated when they broke up, but I think it worked out. I love Morrissey's early solo albums, the new ones are pretty good too.
That song holds so so memories for me and emotions; happiness, sadness, joy, despair. I can listen to it and each time it hits different ❤️
I was into metal in me art college days. My eyes still roll thinking of them comparing indie guitarists to metal guitarist. 2 different beasts. But it was a constant talkin point.
7+ minute extended version is amazing, especially Mike Joyce's drum intro
I was 14 at the time this came out and a kid moved from Mass. down to N. Carolina where I lived and as we became friends he handed me a case of cassettes to check out, that included a ton of groups I'd never heard of: The Smiths, The Cure, REM, Violent Femmes...just all these amazing bands. I heard The Queen is Dead and was Absolutely mesmerized. Been a lifelong fan of them and the Cure ever since.
Isn't music brilliant?
North Carolina here and The Smith's and REM along with the Pixies were the best of the best. I've lived all over the country now and I've found some great music but nothing compares to the Smith's!
I have often sang this lyric at wedding discos.
same in queens, nyc same age, mostly same bands. .:)
i hope that kid is still your mate. he did you a good service.
I like to think that Morrissey is happiest when he's yodelling. It doesn't happen much but there's evidence of it from the closing minute on The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (which also sounds lovely).
Maybe their most underrated or overlooked songs. It's absolutely brilliant. And the "Life is very long when you're lonely" line, it's one of those transcendent lines he's so great at. Arguably, their best.
I have massive trouble "separating the art from the artist" on almost every occasion. Morrissey is one of the few instances where I couldn't hate his art if I tried. Love your channel, Justin!
We had a Best Of The Smiths on in the car a few days ago. Morrissey was incapable of writing a bad lyric.
"A monkish Monsignor with a head full of plaster said 'My man, get your vile soul dry-cleaned'"
He's amazing
What about the lyrics for "National Front Disco"?
@@GavinHuss A great character study.
@@GavinHuss yep, fantastic lyrics in that song too.
okay thats untrue
Morrisey is the last of the great English poets. A true working class hero. A genius & a living legend. A giant amongst men.
He's a far right racist biggot who has defended Tommy Robinson, described all Chinese people as sub human and openly says that he prefers his own race. That's really your idea of a living legend?
@@bawsack69 ah, so you're a racist and a homophobe. Well done. Personally, I was raised to judge people based on their character.
@@brendanm6921 oh how virtuous. The correct term for "racism" is in-group preference, it's perfectly natural. No such thing as "homophobia", just a made up word designed to make proper debate impossible. I'm not scared of sodomists, I just think their actions are disgusting.
@@bawsack69 morrissey is literally gay, and you praised him and called him a genius, but then you used the word gay as an insult. Why?
@@deliadorner1753 no he's not. Asexual at most.
Johnny Marr got me playing guitar. Morrissey's prolific, quality songwriting ability is a marvel.
I like that Justin proclaims his love for Morrissey. 😀
Just saw him at the weekend (Brixton Academy). He answers to nobody and lots of people are really uncomfortable with that. Good bless him x
Was he still wearing a For Britain badge?
@jack_in_the_green Who are the English?
@jack_in_the_green Er, no, you answer my question.
@jack_in_the_green Who are the indigenous in "England" then? Should they be protected from Scottish immigration, or French?
You do realise that in order for one culture to displace another, the original culture has to be somehow removed. Immigrants moving to a place does not remove the 'native culture' but people leaving a place does.
This was very fun Justin! I could listen to you dissect The Smiths’ songs all day👏
I saw them on The Queen is Dead tour at Nottingham Royal Concert Hall in 1986, what a gig! They opened with this song with Mike Joyce's drum intro kicking it all off. Craig Gannon was brought in on rhythm guitar for this tour too. My favourite band ever and lovely to know you like it too Justin! Love your reviews, thank you!!
In my list of top bands of my life. The Smiths were vital to my high school experience and are still a huge part of my musical life. Absolutely love them
Great video Justin. I’m a Smiths obsessive and was lucky enough to see them play live. They were the real Fab Four!
So lucky to have seen the Smiths in Ottawa Canada for this album. Great show.
I'm 6 years older than you, Justin (I graduated from high school the year The Smiths broke up), and at the time I was not really a fan of The Smiths (or any of the other British, post-punk and indie bands of the 80s) but as I've grown old, I find I have a much greater appreciation for the entire era. So I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis. I also appreciate your ability to separate the art from the artist (something that people don't seem to be able to do anymore). We need more of that.
The Smiths are the best, my favorite band of all time. So influential. Johnny Marr is the reason why I learned to play guitar.
Some people became a weatherman because of John Kettley
@@bazilbrushrocks hahahaha I imagine that is also very true. Don't forget about Michael fish though lol
H'es the reason I couldnt play the guitar for years!. I just stated learning again and am sticking to non Smiths stuff until i get good enough!
@@grumpyanarchist there are some great Smiths tutorials out there nowadays. You can do it!!!
Oh dear
The Headmaster Ritual has some of my favourite ever lyrics. His lyricism is unparalleled in originality. And he's a colourful character. I don't think he's actually that bad. At least, not as bad as people make him out to be.
He uses his voice as an instrument amazingly in that song too
Thom Yorke does a great cover
He's really not once you realize most of what he's been criticized for has been the way he speaks about and the content of his politics. So many highly respected and celebrated musicians have done things seen as 'evil' in the eyes of society, but Morrissey rarely ever does anything. At least not nearly as much as he speaks.
You must have one seriously large closet sir! (Or wardrobe where I'm from!) A fine collection of thread's X
Each time I watch your channel the way you express the absolute love for music is amazing to say the least. I remember a time since past I loved music as you do. You're a one of a kind talent that we must all embrace and try to emulate. Justin your a true original don't ever stop sincerely THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart.
Your explanation of the Rusty Spanner line blew my mind, cheers from Oklahoma you have been loved in this house for so long, as has Moz.
I’ve always struggled being able to separate the art from the artist. Even times when I can, usually at some point while I’m listening to certain artist’s music, whatever it is that I don’t like about them pops up in my head. Sometimes I can ignore it, sometimes I can’t. And when I can’t, it just kills whatever good vibes I was feeling.
Ive loved morrissey regardless and imagined his words were twisted a lot but i heard the libertines drummer tell a story about him recently which makes me think differently about him
I'm the same. If I find out the artist is problematic it taints their work even if i try to look past it. There's been a few over the years and things are never quite the same.
Glad someone mentioned this. I love the Smiths so much, but I do struggle to separate the music from the racist crap Morrissey has come out with. Very disappointing. Especially because so many of his lyrics arguably speak to and for minorities and maligned people.
I love your enthusiasm when talking about the smiths. It rivals mine when I talk about Love and Rockets or The The. I also love the smiths. (honourable mention to Marr/Johnson collab on the the's Dusk)
@@darrenallison1422 you are not wrong but you are also not right. I would recommend any of them but right at this second in the spirit of Justin's video I can't stop thinking about the arm breaking guitar strumming Daniel Ash did on Kundalini Express. I tried playing that live a couple times at that tempo for that long and couldn't move my arms for a while after each time.
I have always loved this song. Thank you for doing a video on it and paying homage to one of the greatest bands ever.
I was at the Brixton Academy (the best venue) in October '86 to see them play this. Bloody marvellous and thank you Justin for shining a light on this song. Great Channel - you've got me listening to Five Leaves Left, The Bends and this in the space of a few days - I haven't enjoyed music so much in years.
The best opening track of an album one can ask for.
This is by far my favourite song of The Smiths. Lyrics are the best, and the instrumentation is the best. One of their few real rocking songs.
Thank you Justim. Forgot how much I love this song. That bass line! Perfect breakdown! Cheers!
This is the best episode yet. Justin's observations are truly insightful (and amusing), and they indicate a genuine fan. Sometimes the greatness of The Smiths is simply taken as read, so it's nice to have a critique that foregrounds what makes them timeless by utilising less obvious examples.
Johnny Marr is an absolute genius
ALAW
I’ve never sat down to listen to morrissey or the smiths but this guy really does have that “thing” and something else. Real musicians without any fakeness edited into the track. It’s a dying art being true musicians and the darkness is one of the very last of true musicians. In my opinion at least. Great channel Justin, great Taylor tribute also well done mate. Xxxxx
Beautifully articulated insights which inspire me to think in different ways about music composition. Thank you, dear boy.
Perfect timing, taking a little break from work and BOOM! There's a new awesome video from Mr. Hawkins.
God, I adored The Smiths - the perfect combination of Morrissey and Marr - something to rescue us from the cack, as Morrissey said, “Hang the DJ, as the music that they constantly play, has nothing to do with my life” omg that resonated. Morrissey was God and we were his love children …..
"says nothing to me about my life"
The Guardian and billy bragg disowned him for his far right stance. They tore into him and destroyed their smiths collection... such drama...
The intro song never gets old. It's my favorite way to start the day! Just singing; "juuuustin Hawkins rides again... again..." 😁
Love the Smiths and especially this song, pleased that you are bringing this to the attention of your youtube subscribers Justin, well done👍
Went to see morrisey at Brighton centre on Friday
Great show he’s voice was spot on
This whole album is incredible, but I say that about every The Smiths album 😂 Morrissey's lyrics are absolutely genius in my opinion, and I know you love a good double entendre!
But I agree with you as well that his voice is uniquely beautiful. The "whoa" effect with Morrissey is funny, as he throws these in quite often in his songs, and often I think he sings just to hear himself sing... But I want to hear him sing, too, so I'll happily eat it up! And he's still got it! If you have a chance to see him live, do it! His voice is just heavenly, and his range is still unbelievable.
Marr's guitar is unrivaled as well. He truly is such a talent. And like we hear in The Queen Is Dead, his playing evokes a mood. It isn't just notes, it is a complete sound, feeling that enwraps your mind. He also seems like such a humble dude!!
Although selfishly, I wish Morrissey and Marr weren't over, their combined talents created something special and unparalleled, and the albums they did make are perfect.
Just to thank you so much for this one. Big fan of the Smith’s oeuvre obviously. The album cover is also a piece of art.
Beautiful song, beautiful shirt.
Thanks very much Mr.Hawkins, just what I needed.
Stumbled on justins podcast and think they are briliant , entertaining educational with comedy and great comedy timing thrown in … well done ive subscribed . Best thing for me on youtube at min
I saw Johnny Marr last month, he opened for the Killers. He is still amazing. So much talent.
Morrissey and the Smiths are as important and relevant to British music as The Beatles. Saw him live last week, there is also a lot of footage on youtube. Completely amazing, his voice was beautiful.Both old and new material was sung. One of the best gigs I have ever had the privilege to see.
I hung onto every word you said
This was so brilliant
Astute & entertaining
Thank you so much
I just saw him at the Brighton Centre on Friday and he was awesome. Voice was incredible.
Was he still wearing a For Britain badge?
@@Gerishnakov Wasn’t close enough to see. First time I’d ever seen him, brilliant show
And I will help you fight too. I have this album on vinyl and it's one of my favorites of all time. By the way, I'm looking for The Darkness albums on vinyl but I do have the first three on CD. Thank you for giving me a bit of joy in my life. Much appreciated and love from Georgia in the United States.
As someone who used to love Morrissey, this was refreshing. I like how you stripped his art away from all the undesirable things that seem to plague his personality these days. Morrissey was always right in my range, and I sang along with him so much in the early 90's that my mimicking was virtually perfect. I can't say this about any other artist. As a guitar player, no one is ever keen for a Smiths or Morrissey tune, but I do have a number of them in my back pocket.
Hooray! you got around to my favorite band and favorite Smiths song! Great video & analysis.
Justin, I love your analysis and the songs you love. I wouldn't have guessed you loved the Smiths, Gunther and Verve, but you defy all expectations. Champion 🏆
Thank you for doing The Smiths. I was listening to them yesterday and wanted to ask you to critique ‘how soon is now’ but I’m shy ☺️…and shyness can stop you!
Love your channel btw ❤️
He's already critiqued How Soon Is Now! Was a few weeks ago...
@@neilg7804 I’m slowly working my way back through the vids as I not long since discovered Justin’s channel. I shall go find and check it out :)
In 1989 I visited Italy with my family & I bought 2 tapes there for my walkman - louder than bombs & anthrax state of euphoria. I loved them both.
Great vid as per, Justin. I must have been 13/14 when I discovered The Smiths. Changed my life for the better. Some 22 years later and I was lucky enough to see the great man live last Friday in Stockton. Still sounding absolutely amazing and appearing to be really enjoying his music. An unforgettable night.
I love your love for the man Justin. I’ve seen Morrissey live around 40 times now, I was very surprised TQIDead didn’t make the setlist on this last tour. Shows Morrissey has some class, despite what people say.
Love the Smiths they are amazing this slbum is so good everyone should listen to it at least once.Morrissey is so fantastic he is surely a music genious love him ❤
Saw Morrissey in Concert in Brighton just a few days ago, he was awesome.
Was he still wearing a For Britain badge?
Love the Smiths...so fortunate I was able to see them twice in California during their brief existence.
Cracked up at the Minder reference to Stock Aiken and Waterman. Back in early 2000s he and (I beleive) Sinita were at a restaurant table next to me...he was drunk, loud and laughing his head off...it made the night
The album 'The Queen is Dead' sold no more than 700 000 copies but still it was their biggest seller. Incredibly underrated, the Smiths were simply too good.
They were a band for the time. Sadly, they weren't punk enough for me so I came in late to the game of loving the Smiths. Now, they are firmly entrenched in my love of 80's post.
I have never heard so much sense and knowledge spoken on CZcams, just love it 👍
GREAT VIDEO JUSTIN! It would be awesome to see a more traditional Smiths song to analyze Marr's guitar. What Difference Does It Make? I just want to see your breakdown of course.
The Queen Is Dead album is bangers from start to finish.
What a beautiful voice you have Justin....!!!!!
I agree. He should start a band, could probably go far.
@@Spaxcore 🤣
Thank you Justin. I’m a huge Smiths fan but like you adore Mozza’s solo stuff. Would “Let Me Kiss You” be worth a video? I bloody love the lyrical turn in that song! Love & hugs xx
My favourite band ever, this song just blew my mind when I first heard it - "Life is very long, when you're lonely"
Great track! Johnny is brilliant as usual and Andy's bass is used to great effect. Mike's drums are finally elevated from a background role.
Big fan of The Darkness and your channel. Had tickets to the show in Cleveland that had to be rescheduled for your throat surgery. Was in attendance at The Nautica for the make up gig. One of the best nights of my life. The last show my younger brother and I saw together before he died. Anyway, please continue to analyze The Smiths. One of the most important bands full stop. 👍
I love this stuff. Cheers Justin
Have loved smiths and Morrissey for well over 20 years now … great video ❤
So happy you’ve done this video Justin and the Morrissey one recently, I can’t even put into words how much Moz and the Smiths mean to me. I saw him live at the Palladium last week and I have to say he has never sounded better 👌
Was he still wearing a For Britain badge?
I love The Smiths and I love your channel. You are very intelligent, you speak of what matters and you are making videos consistently. You are great! I love Morrissey too btw lol And Dead or Alive were great too!
"heyyy Carrie Anne what's your game now can anybody play" 🎶
@@damotheman4196 My parents heard that song 2 weeks after I was born riding down the road. I love that song! lol
@@carrieanne5415 Lol.. That's brilliant. I thought you mightve been confused by the reference but nope, and thank you (or your folks I guess.. 😂) for reminding me of that great song listened to it loads since yesterday.
@@damotheman4196 I looked it up and gave it a listen too lol Have a great day and thank you for the reminder! xx
I am a bit off what this episode is about... I saw you guys at the Enmore Sunday night for the first time. Can I say you were ten times better than what I expected one of the best concerts I have ever seen in my life... So you have fired me up to start really getting into my guitar and have a crack at being as good as your back up band!.... Lol was a great night thanks to you and your band had big meaning for me I booked your concert when my dad died so yeah meant a lot and you guys totally delivered!.
What an awesome band. The Smiths came in right behind U2 with a similar busy/heavy rhythm section that seems to evoke a sense of imbalance, uncertainty and danger. They made some exciting and wonderful music.
Please consider covering Suede. Their new album is fantastic and their catalog is criminally underappreciated.
My affection for this channel is growing by the click. Growing up in Canada before Cable TV and internet … I didn’t know The Smiths existed … it was probably around 2006 when I some how stumbled up their genius … my god I love those guys !!
Thank you for this vortex of awesome ✌️❤️🤘🎸🥁
The Smith's will always be my favorite band ever. I don't care what their beliefs are politically or whom they pray or don't pray to because it's about the music to me. I actually lived in a time when others could coexist with each other and respect was a given. Fast forward to 2012 and man of mam how times have changed. I miss the better times even if life was still harder because we didn't have the internet like today or a phone in our hands. It was awesome. I loved going to band practice and then to the library. Times were and will always be better in the 80's and some of the 90's.
Amazing song. Amazing album
Love it! Great stuff Justin, very funny too 👍
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on The Smiths, I enjoyed it a lot😊
Saw him live a few weeks back, still sounds great and I fooking love him too! Definitely a genius and a great song. Had hoped he'd do it live but maybe going a little soft 🤣
he aint going soft phil.............🤣i saw him in glasgow................never sounded better................or harder 🤣
The Smiths had such an underrated rhythm section. Marr is incredible as he is but the boys in the back were driving things as in this song, Marr could establish incredible interplay with bass player on "The Night Has Opened My Eyes", and bass player stays properly in back on Marr's guitar workout on "Barbarism Starts at Home." Great titles all across here but obviously great and very literary lyrics, too.