DJI MINI 4 PRO Color Profiles: Comparison D-LOG M, HLG, & NORMAL Profile
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2023
- In this video I put the 3 color profiles side by side to show the difference between Normal, D-LOG M, & HLG. I am using a FREEWELL Mist Filter on my DJI MINI 4 PRO to get dreamy sunset video.
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Wow - Imagine that. A YT video that quickly and expertly does exactly what I hoped for - a practical look at whether I need to screw around "in post" for every video I shoot. No I don't. THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME HOURS MESSING WITH THIS at the beginner stage of my droning... EXCELLENT !
Thanks for the kind words! Glad the video was helpful! Have fun!!
@@AerialMotionPhotographyagree with him 100%!! Great video! I have a mini 4 pro tomorrow and I am extremely confident now seeing the quality of DLog now can 100% match that to the style of my camera
Adam you always provide useful information, mainly this shows why I just like what DJI does on its own. I really enjoy the footage from this drone over my Air2S, thanks for posting
thank you! You can't go wrong with the DJI's normal color profile!
That was a good video. Straight to the point.
Thanks for this. All the videos I’ve seen on D-Log M shows a comparison with the original and colour corrected. Of course, it does look dramatically different but not very useful. I just want to see the difference between corrected D-Log M and straight out of the camera Normal Profile to see whether it is worth my time and effort doing the grading on D-Log M and what difference I can expect. This video is perfect for that and the only one I can find that shows it. Well done. By the way, I didn’t even know about HLG so I need to get the drone out and find it!
Great, video. Many thanks.
I have the Mini 3 Pro and my only reason to possibly upgrade to the Mini 4 Pro is the log colour profiles. I've always struggled to get a decent result using my Mini 3 Pro with D-Cinelike as the colours never look right no matter what I do. The normal profile is useless too as the few times I've tried it, it blows out the highs and they're not recoverable. Otherwise, the result CAN look decent until you look too close. If I knew the Mini 4 Pro log profiles would overcome this I'd buy it today, but it's hard to really know without shooting stuff myself and comparing side by side.
Great comparison - thank you sir!
Thank you!
Nice comparison thank you
Thank you!
Very good thanks
I want to make HDR videos, but HLG post-production color grading is very difficult. In comparison, D-log M is superior in post-production color grading. However, the color gamut of D-log M is Rec 709 instead of Rec 2020, so I am a little confused about this issue and don’t know how to understand it?
I don't really agree on DLog-M:
1. You are showing Rec709 which is what the conversion LUT outputs for DLog-M
2. Using pro workflows (Color Management) it is way harder to work with DLog-M (It doesn't work automatically as DLog does)
3. HLG actually uses Rec2020 Color Gamut (2x Rec709) and Rec2100 Transfer Function (double the stops of dynamic range from Rec709)
4. While HLG is easy to grade, it doesn't even have to be graded, as its backwards compatible with SDR displays, DLog-M requires post-processing
Thank you for showing the comparison videos though, it's very cool footage. As an experiment, maybe try converting your HLG footage to Rec709 and see how that compares, I might try that today :)
I am trying to get to the bottom of DLog-M because I don't think its using a real log transfer function, and I am not sure it is using a wide color gamut as well. You can get good results with any of them, but I want to figure out what it's actually doing.
My first thought when I saw the first footage. I’m here to see if there’s actually a difference between dlog m and HLG. Because they look very similar to my eye when HLG is converted to 709
What about D-cinelike ?
@@ElvisSCL I don't really like that either, for the same reasons.
Most people when working with their footage, use color management, that means that in Resolve, or FCP, or Premier, I can have the program handle my footage, take it from the camera space, to the working space, and then output it to the delivery space.
So, if I have a Sony, I shoot in SLog3, and Resolve can automatically (and more accurately) convert that to Rec709. In practice, however, we don't want to go directly to Rec709, I want to go to an intermediate space like ACES or Davinci Wide Gamut/Intermediate.
That means that I can take my Sony footage, and my iPhone (Apple Log) footage, and my RED footage, and then I can apply the same grades to all of them, as I have converted them all into the same intermediate space, and now, when I want to export, I can export all of them to Rec709.
The one question that no one can answer, in terms of DLog-M or DCinelike is
"What if I don't want to export Rec709, I want to export HDR content."
I mean, isn't that the point of getting all the extra dynamic range using a Log format? I capture a ton of extra details in the shadows and highlights, then throw it away by going to Rec709?
Oh, well DJI doesn't have a DLog-M to HLG LUT, what do I do now?
With a standard that is published, I can export Apple Log footage to HDR10, Dolby Vision, Rec709, HLG, whatever I want, based on the display I am going to show it on.
That is why DLog-M is the opposite of useful for anything professional,
1. It doesn't work with any color management pipelines
2. It doesn't allow me to export to other color spaces, like those for HDR
3. It doesn't allow me to apply the same macro look to all my footage, which is even worse because I have never seen a project with only drone footage, so there is almost always going to be another camera.
There are many other reasons why, but that is the short version.
Nice Job! Thank You!
Thank you!
Great content
Thank you very much!
Great video. Can you provide more detail on which filter was used?
Thank you. It is a Freewell Snow Mist 1/4 Filter for DJI Mini 4 Pro. Snow mist is the affect and 1/4 is the strength of affect. www.freewellgear.com/en/dji-mini-4-pro-nd-filters/1167-dji-mini-4-pro-snow-mist-14-filter.html
To my eye, the DJI LUT murdered the reds and shadows from the D-Log footage. I'm guessing color and contrast could have been pushed a lot more if desired.
yeah it's a whole different "look" that is for sure. I tend to stick with the normal profile.
Very good video. I think I’ll stick with normal, but use HLG for sunrises and sunsets.. and where was this filmed? Colorado River?
Thank you. And yes it was! On the California side of Lake Havasu 🌵
The LUT provided by DJI converts to Rec.709. Does that mean it's only suitable for SDR applications? If that's the case, wondering the point of 10-bit D-Log is if you can't really use it for HDR applications.
I wish I knew more about the technology behind all of this. I do these tests so I can see if there is a real world difference that is noticeable. Good luck
Amazing. Can someone tell me why my footage comes out blue? If I put ND filter on it makes it even bluer. Even the white sand on the beach has a light blue tint to it straight from the drone? 😔
I would check your white balance and set it to auto if it is in pro mode
Thank you for your help. That has sorted my problem..👍
Seriously u don't need to colour grade the footage u can just use the default normal colour profile it's so good looking
I’m not sure if it’s because of the Color grading . But I have found that my normal footage usually looks better than d log. Is d log usually flatter in most scenerios?
Yes it is much flatter. You have to use a correction lut or do color grading to get it to look better.
Im not sure if i understand when you said “slide it like this” there is a LUT from DJI built inside the RC ? If yes how to apply it to my videos ?
The lut is a filter that you apply when editing the video on a computer using a program like Adobe Premiere Pro. It is not built in. That would be a nice feature though.
@@AerialMotionPhotography ohh i thought its there already in the RC . Because i used Hyperlapse earlier in one of my videos the color changed on my Hyperlapse only its like there’s already a color grade, even though im shooting the Hyperlapse using D-Log M
@@prodigyeta8828 Interesting! I didn't know that. I have only used hyperlapse video a couple times (in normal color). I do my hyperlapses with photos and edit them together in Lightroom then Premiere Pro. Sounds like you are having fun with your drone!
Where did you find the DJI lut?
It was on DJI’s website
Using the DJI Mini 4 Pro drone, DJI D-Log M mode, the Rec.709 LUT (Lookup Table) DJI gave us is not suitable for direct HDR video production. I tried to make HDR many times, but the color gamut required by HDR is Rec.2020, DJI can't provide Rec.2020 LUT, and no company on the Internet provides it. We must understand that Rec.709 is a color space and gamma curve designed for standard dynamic range (SDR) video, while HDR video uses a different color space (such as Rec.2020) and gamma curve (such as PQ or HLG).
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@@4kHDR.DAQUAN thank you for the info! Very interesting. That’s why I use the normal color profile for 99% of the time. I use rec.2020 for HLG.
One thing that I wish was more accurate was matching the different cameras on the Mavic 3 Pro shot in D-Log M. It doesn’t look right to me.
HLG seems to look the best
so good right?!
@@AerialMotionPhotography if I shoot on dlogm on one device and HLG one another one, how to make sure the colors from both devices can be matched and aligned?
@@ElvisSCL They will not match. If getting the footage to match you need to use the same color profile. HLG and Standard are the closest. The one way I use different color profiles in the same video are when I include clips where the time of day changes. Like if I shoot Standard during the day and HLG at sunset.
@@AerialMotionPhotography thanks for the explanation, that makes sense