Dale, I just picked up this game and my friend you made this so easy to understand. I have seen so many other videos that made it so dang complicated because "Its a complicated game". You broke it down and made it simple and easy to understand. Thank you so much!
Fun to watch! great begining! Have the old core but think I will geat the new to get all the cards in one box. And later the box where you play through the books! =) Have a greta day
Dale that has got to be a speed run record 😅. That game looks like alot of fun. If I ever take a break from Marvel Champions lcg I'll definitely give that one a try.
In the annals of first scenarios, the venerable bug hunt stands proud. Gandalf says draw three cards. Talk about a mechanic that was baked into the underlying system early. I like the interaction/combat. Exhausted because they committed but then readied yet still committed. My head spins.
First time you used Gandalf, you put him to your hand. That's not according the rules. Gandalf has to go discarted, not back to your hand. That's crucial because now you couldn't do the combo with sneak attack...
Some rules issues: 1.) A player commits all characters to the quest simultaneously (even if the actual rotating of cards is done in some order). This means both Aragorn and Theodred's responses happen at the same time. Thus, you can choose which to trigger first. So, Theodred can give Aragorn the resource first and then Aragorn uses that resource to ready (i.e. Aragorn doesn't need to have the resource before questing). In multiplayer, each player commits characters in player order, so Theodred couldn't give a resource to a player that hasn't yet committed characters. 2.) You left a note that Mendor's response should have been used in round 1 but LotR LCG has specific rules for the word "Then" (which I hate as it's contrary to normal logic) where the preceding sentence must resolve in FULL for the "post Then" effect to resolve. Since the "pre Then" effect says to ready Mendor, if you didn't actually ready Mendor then you don't get to trigger the "post Then" effect. Basically, Mendor typically has to go on the quest to get the quest clearing benefit.
14:10 you were still in a Planning phase after playing Gandalf (that was an Action window) and drawing the cards. So technically you could still play Celebrian's Stone for +2 willpower before starting the quest phase...hopefully I am not wrong 🙂
he played gandalf with a sneak attack action window during the quest phase - otherwise gandalf wouldn't have been able to commit to the quest, as the planning phase he would have gone away.
Sneak Attack + Gandalf makes it look easy =D. With max 3 of each, and 60 card decks, it's hard to have anything resembling consistency, so unfortunately the other scenarios will probably be harder.
@David Ko Agreed. The one thing I really enjoy about Marvel Champions is the use cards as resources and draw a new hand every turn. The draw a card, gain a resource really is a down side for me in this game (and Arkham). But that Sneak Attack and Gandalf combo is SWEET!! :)
I also picked up this game recently - bought all revised content. It is little bit familiar to me since I also own MC (I do not have everything but quite a lot of MC stuff). As a huge fan of LotR I really like this game. Maybe I will change my mind after I play Escape from Dol Guldur 🙂 But I am already prepared for a defeat 🙂 And if I get stuck with the revised core deck, I will unpack some of the starter decks. I should mention that I am playing as a 2-player (6 heroes) to make it easier, but I chose standard mode. Dale, you have not done any content for maybe 1 year😞
Good game, next mission is harder and the third one I don't even play anymore (I won it once and I am done with it!). I usually play in 'sleazy' mode, start with one extra ressource but leave all the gold cards in the encounter deck, mostly because i cannot be bothered sorting them out :p I would recommend Dark of Mirkwood for a 'cheap' good two quests campaign pack if you do end up wanting a bit more since you also got the starter decks.
I got the revised coreset as a gift. I just played Campaigns 1-3 4 times over the past weekend. The revised set is awesome and had blast. Glad your covering Lord of the Rings LCG again.
@Mr.L Sounds like you've found a great game for you!! I plan on running the campaign with the core box ... and hoping I can stop there. Keeping up with two LCGs is not something my wallet is prepared to handle. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Yeah definitely, For myself, I am glad FFG is mostly my money sink. Couldn't afford Marvel Zombicide and other KS games, since FFG is taking most of my cash lol ;p.
The threat meter looks awfully like the life counters in Aeon's End, and I'm sure other games too. I wonder if there's one lone manufacturer of them that all publishers use? 🤔😆
This looks really good. I actually got the Steam version in a Humble bundle. It has a bunch of expansions. Still I would prefer the physical version but considering how expensive MC is and how how I have recently gotten into Arkham Horror the PC version will do
Thanks for watching! They are UberStax and you can find purchase information for them at www.uberstax.com . I also did a video highlighting them at czcams.com/video/HBNRANBuKS4/video.html and a handy attachment tray at czcams.com/video/dyC9jiuOrwc/video.html . For cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards but I love the way they feel. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
Really enjoyed the video. I got the game for Christmas and it has helped. One question: where did you get the stands you are using for the enemies and the quest & travel cards?
Thanks for watching! They are UberStax and you can find purchase information for them at www.uberstax.com . I also did a video highlighting them at czcams.com/video/HBNRANBuKS4/video.html and a handy attachment tray at czcams.com/video/dyC9jiuOrwc/video.html . Hope that helps and happy gaming! :)
I hope this is the beginning of a new series. And it was the quickest game i have ever seen!!!! I have never heard of the "Sneaky Gandalf" tactic but I will start using it. I have two copies of the Core game and I'm now considering buying this. Will we be seeing anymore LOTR LCG game play videos?
@Ragnot Greymane lol I had 2 copies of the core game too, now to go for sale at the swap meet at my game store next week. I plan on going through the campaign (on easy). Not sure my wallet can handle another LCG, so not sure of any more game play videos after this campaign (but you never know). :)
Hi Dale. Great playthrough, but I have a question. Is there a new rilule that you can only play 1 card at a time? I'm kind of surprised you didn't attach Steward of Gondor first, exhaust for 2 resources, then bring in Guard if the Citadel using those 2 resources all in the first round.
thank you for the videos from Australia. question, after you cpmplete each stage of campaig here do i remove any damage at beginnig of next quest, the river, start afreash..but keep attachments?
Hi Dale: thank you for the video. Question: when you started your resource phase - you started with two resources each - isn't only one per Hero? I searched the rules and could not find where you start the first round with 2 resources each for hero's. Thank you in advance.
I know it's been 5 months but just in case you are still wondering or for others watching the video, his heroes get 1 resource because he's playing easy mode, then they get the usual 1 resource in the Resource phase.
@ResplendentOrder the Revised edition is just a reprint and re-packaging. The scenario cards are new and from what I understand are downloadable from the Fantasy Flight web site. :)
Normally my complaint with this game is the difficulty, hard to beat. Seemed like it ended quickly and was too easy. Maybe the easy mode had something to do with that not sure.
Wait you played gandalf in your Planning phase with sneak attack right? -> You cannot quest with him because that is now phase 3 and he shouldve returned to you hand already, or am I wrong??
MC really is a streamlined version and some minor tweaks, that for me, improve the game ... but that is a personal preference. Depending on a persons preference, I could easily point them towards this for more of a challenge, or Arkham for a more connected story in a campaign.
1st edition taught me how to get used to losing. Mechanics make sense after a few plays. Some keywords can get confusing, but do the best you can as you learn the game. It’s a challenging game experience. :)
Dale, I just picked up this game and my friend you made this so easy to understand. I have seen so many other videos that made it so dang complicated because "Its a complicated game". You broke it down and made it simple and easy to understand. Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching, and happy gaming!! :)
This is an unexpected surprise! Keep up the great work and good luck Journeying down the Anduin!
@COTRPodcast Thanks for stopping by! I know you are an experienced LOTR card game player. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer thanks, if you're ever in a situation where you need to reach out please don't hesitate to do so. Happy to help.
This game seems so epic. Love the artwork on the cards!
@James Bourner FFG does a great job with art and graphic design! :)
Fun to watch! great begining! Have the old core but think I will geat the new to get all the cards in one box. And later the box where you play through the books! =) Have a greta day
Things did go well for the fellowship this "movie". We'll see if that continues! lol
Dale that has got to be a speed run record 😅. That game looks like alot of fun. If I ever take a break from Marvel Champions lcg I'll definitely give that one a try.
lotr is the best lcg by far
@Caesar's Peak Thanks for watching! Two LCGs is a lot to keep up with, so my "plan" is to just step into this a little. We'll see how that goes. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer yeah I'm the same way. So by step into it a little you mean buy everything they have for it.
@@samuelnunes2641 nope. Not at all. ;) the missing real campaign mode alone disqualifies it for that…. AH is worlds better.
Awesome video. Hoping for more LOTR LCG videos. It is one of my favorites. 👍
@Brandon Langston Thanks for watching, and I'll be finishing this 3 part campaign for sure. :)
In the annals of first scenarios, the venerable bug hunt stands proud.
Gandalf says draw three cards. Talk about a mechanic that was baked into the underlying system early.
I like the interaction/combat. Exhausted because they committed but then readied yet still committed. My head spins.
My head spins in the constant state of confusion.
I was sooo looking foward to this
Have you picked up the revised edition?
@@DaletheCasualGamer is ln the way Coming this Monday super exited 🙌🏻🔥
First time you used Gandalf, you put him to your hand. That's not according the rules. Gandalf has to go discarted, not back to your hand. That's crucial because now you couldn't do the combo with sneak attack...
Good game
Amazing Dale!! I buy Marvel Champions 2 years ago because of you . Now on gonna grab this one ! Thanks !!
@Ekim I'm glad to take the blame for you getting both of these games. Enjoy!! :)
Some rules issues:
1.) A player commits all characters to the quest simultaneously (even if the actual rotating of cards is done in some order). This means both Aragorn and Theodred's responses happen at the same time. Thus, you can choose which to trigger first. So, Theodred can give Aragorn the resource first and then Aragorn uses that resource to ready (i.e. Aragorn doesn't need to have the resource before questing). In multiplayer, each player commits characters in player order, so Theodred couldn't give a resource to a player that hasn't yet committed characters.
2.) You left a note that Mendor's response should have been used in round 1 but LotR LCG has specific rules for the word "Then" (which I hate as it's contrary to normal logic) where the preceding sentence must resolve in FULL for the "post Then" effect to resolve. Since the "pre Then" effect says to ready Mendor, if you didn't actually ready Mendor then you don't get to trigger the "post Then" effect. Basically, Mendor typically has to go on the quest to get the quest clearing benefit.
@Kenny Felts Thanks for the rules clarifications! I have already completed the campaign, so will probably still have the same issues. :)
14:10 you were still in a Planning phase after playing Gandalf (that was an Action window) and drawing the cards. So technically you could still play Celebrian's Stone for +2 willpower before starting the quest phase...hopefully I am not wrong 🙂
he played gandalf with a sneak attack action window during the quest phase - otherwise gandalf wouldn't have been able to commit to the quest, as the planning phase he would have gone away.
Sneak Attack + Gandalf makes it look easy =D.
With max 3 of each, and 60 card decks, it's hard to have anything resembling consistency, so unfortunately the other scenarios will probably be harder.
@David Ko Agreed. The one thing I really enjoy about Marvel Champions is the use cards as resources and draw a new hand every turn. The draw a card, gain a resource really is a down side for me in this game (and Arkham). But that Sneak Attack and Gandalf combo is SWEET!! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer It's definitely a much slower pace. More long term planning, but less dynamic from turn to turn.
@@DaletheCasualGamer The two main areas where this LCG shine are deck construction and quest variety.
Thanks for the video! Sneaky Gandalf is always good.
@Mark Spitzig I don't know much about the card pool, but Sneak Attack with Gandolf seems like the greatest combo ever. :)
I also picked up this game recently - bought all revised content. It is little bit familiar to me since I also own MC (I do not have everything but quite a lot of MC stuff). As a huge fan of LotR I really like this game. Maybe I will change my mind after I play Escape from Dol Guldur 🙂 But I am already prepared for a defeat 🙂 And if I get stuck with the revised core deck, I will unpack some of the starter decks. I should mention that I am playing as a 2-player (6 heroes) to make it easier, but I chose standard mode.
Dale, you have not done any content for maybe 1 year😞
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
wow that was a fast video :D that sneak attack and gandalf combo is cool :D
@Chris Villegas I hope that can happen every game! :)
Loved this gamplay, thanks a lot for posting.
@Daniel Zuluaga Thanks for watching!
Good game, next mission is harder and the third one I don't even play anymore (I won it once and I am done with it!).
I usually play in 'sleazy' mode, start with one extra ressource but leave all the gold cards in the encounter deck, mostly because i cannot be bothered sorting them out :p
I would recommend Dark of Mirkwood for a 'cheap' good two quests campaign pack if you do end up wanting a bit more since you also got the starter decks.
The campaign mode changes make the third quest much easier for solo (although it is still quite hard).
@aSyphodias Thanks for the recommendation! I remember 1st edition being brutal, and expect the same here. :)
@@PickleTheHutt It is easier but I still have no fun with it :p
Sneak Attack with Gandalf twice that early is nasty. Journey & Dol Guldur won’t be so easy. Buckle up!
@Bryce Snow I'll keep my expectations in check. :)
Thanks for this, Dale!
Thanks for watching!
Great vid. I can't decide between this and Marvel Champions to start my FFG card journey...
Good luck with that decision!! :)
I got the revised coreset as a gift. I just played Campaigns 1-3 4 times over the past weekend. The revised set is awesome and had blast. Glad your covering Lord of the Rings LCG again.
@Mr.L Sounds like you've found a great game for you!! I plan on running the campaign with the core box ... and hoping I can stop there. Keeping up with two LCGs is not something my wallet is prepared to handle. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Yeah definitely, For myself, I am glad FFG is mostly my money sink. Couldn't afford Marvel Zombicide and other KS games, since FFG is taking most of my cash lol ;p.
awesome, my fav LCG
Do you play mostly solo, or in a group?
@@DaletheCasualGamer Single handed solo, I dont have any friends interested in the game. ;(
No, I don't believe it can be that easy. Lol Starting with double the resources really helps.
@CulinVlau This did go a bit too easy. Just softening me up for a later scenario. ;)
The threat meter looks awfully like the life counters in Aeon's End, and I'm sure other games too. I wonder if there's one lone manufacturer of them that all publishers use? 🤔😆
Well, that was the quickest game i have ever seen.
Everything did seem to work perfectly. :)
This looks really good. I actually got the Steam version in a Humble bundle. It has a bunch of expansions. Still I would prefer the physical version but considering how expensive MC is and how how I have recently gotten into Arkham Horror the PC version will do
@marvinp90 Gotta budget!! Hope you are enjoying the PC versions! :)
The steam version is very different from the LCG, the artwork is borrowed but the game plays completely differently
Well you somehow made lotrlcg look easy.
Spoiler ... that won't last. ;)
Just got the game for a great price, super excited! Learning to play right now. What sleeves do you use? and that stand you use?
Thanks for watching! They are UberStax and you can find purchase information for them at www.uberstax.com . I also did a video highlighting them at czcams.com/video/HBNRANBuKS4/video.html and a handy attachment tray at czcams.com/video/dyC9jiuOrwc/video.html .
For cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards but I love the way they feel. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
Really enjoyed the video. I got the game for Christmas and it has helped. One question: where did you get the stands you are using for the enemies and the quest & travel cards?
Thanks for watching! They are UberStax and you can find purchase information for them at www.uberstax.com . I also did a video highlighting them at czcams.com/video/HBNRANBuKS4/video.html and a handy attachment tray at czcams.com/video/dyC9jiuOrwc/video.html . Hope that helps and happy gaming! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Thank you very much.
I hope this is the beginning of a new series. And it was the quickest game i have ever seen!!!! I have never heard of the "Sneaky Gandalf" tactic but I will start using it.
I have two copies of the Core game and I'm now considering buying this.
Will we be seeing anymore LOTR LCG game play videos?
@Ragnot Greymane lol I had 2 copies of the core game too, now to go for sale at the swap meet at my game store next week. I plan on going through the campaign (on easy). Not sure my wallet can handle another LCG, so not sure of any more game play videos after this campaign (but you never know). :)
Hi Dale. Great playthrough, but I have a question. Is there a new rilule that you can only play 1 card at a time? I'm kind of surprised you didn't attach Steward of Gondor first, exhaust for 2 resources, then bring in Guard if the Citadel using those 2 resources all in the first round.
You can play as many cards as you can afford ... I'm a rookie in LOTR, so room for a lot of strategy improvement. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer I've watched so many of your Marvel Champions videos, I couldn't count them. Looking forward to watching these as well.
thank you for the videos from Australia. question, after you cpmplete each stage of campaig here do i remove any damage at beginnig of next quest, the river, start afreash..but keep attachments?
What sleeve do you use for your cards?
Hi Dale: thank you for the video. Question: when you started your resource phase - you started with two resources each - isn't only one per Hero? I searched the rules and could not find where you start the first round with 2 resources each for hero's.
Thank you in advance.
I know it's been 5 months but just in case you are still wondering or for others watching the video, his heroes get 1 resource because he's playing easy mode, then they get the usual 1 resource in the Resource phase.
If we’re playing easy mode I use the mtg mulligan system instead
Hopefully this is entirely compatible with the original LOTR LCG version
@ResplendentOrder the Revised edition is just a reprint and re-packaging. The scenario cards are new and from what I understand are downloadable from the Fantasy Flight web site. :)
You actually sleeved these? Wow.
I’m a sleever on any game that may get shuffled a lot. :)
Normally my complaint with this game is the difficulty, hard to beat.
Seemed like it ended quickly and was too easy.
Maybe the easy mode had something to do with that not sure.
Gandalf really made the game go a bit too easy. :)
Wait you played gandalf in your Planning phase with sneak attack right? -> You cannot quest with him because that is now phase 3 and he shouldve returned to you hand already, or am I wrong??
oops, my bad it was correct xD, you already went to phase 3
Wiche sleeves are you using? They fit the cards like a glove.
I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves. Love them! :)
This is probably a stupid question. But here goes How did you bring Gandolf in without paying the 5 cost?
he used 'sneak attack' card to play him! that's why he was only in play for one phase.
Thank you @@Draktok
The Art of the cards is awesome, but the gameplay looks wired. This has a lots of stages and Phases compared to MC, my first impression at least
Your impression is correct...LOTR is the granddaddy of the LCGs and MC is definitely a streamlined take on the formula.
MC really is a streamlined version and some minor tweaks, that for me, improve the game ... but that is a personal preference. Depending on a persons preference, I could easily point them towards this for more of a challenge, or Arkham for a more connected story in a campaign.
It looks really complicated.
1st edition taught me how to get used to losing. Mechanics make sense after a few plays. Some keywords can get confusing, but do the best you can as you learn the game. It’s a challenging game experience. :)
What kind of sleeves did you use?
My go to brand for normal card sleeves are Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves. :)