The Best Electric Temperature Controlled Gooseneck Kettles
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- This got way nerdier than I initially thought it would. I hope you enjoy it, and do let me know if your experiences with these kettles match mine or differ in some way!
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Diguo: www.amazon.co.uk/Diguo-Variab...
Dualit: www.dualit.com/products/pour-...
Timemore: en.timemore.com/taimochanpin/...
Felicita: www.felicitacoffee.com/product...
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Fellow: fellowproducts.com/products/s...
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:47 Overview
1:59 Heating test: to 95°
4:52 Heating test: to boiling
6:35 Maximum flow rate test
8:06 Pouring quality test
Individual reviews: design, build quality, and features
11:45 Diguo Variable Temperature Digital Electric Gooseneck Kettle
12:41 Dualit 72960 Pour Over Kettle
13:40 Timemore Fish Smart Electric Pour Over Kettle
15:26 Felicita Square
17:43 Bonavita Variable Temperature Digital Electric Kettle
18:56 Brewista SmartPour 2 Digital Kettle
21:45 Hario V60 Buono Electric Drip Kettle
23:32 Fellow Stagg EKG Electric Kettle
25:09 Summary
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James Hoffman getting upset with a square lid is the premium content I'm here for.
A legitimate complaint, too. Just shows how support goes a long way in making this content possible.
To be fair, it's a stupid lid and they probably only made it square so it was a "design" not a knockoff.
Same. He embodies all of my first world problems in an attractive British package
Same for me 🤣💯
@@TheBusyJane They could have still made it 'square' by making it a curve of constant width without falling in. It was a design own goal.
“…and fans of Pythagoras may already be ahead of the curve on this one” 🤣🤣
Yesterday, literally hours after I posted this comment, my friend was curious about a square piece of extra wood on the floor in one of my closets… but it wasn’t an extra piece of wood; it was a lid to the crawl space, and he instantly dropped it right into the hole. I was like dang James Hoffman was right, this square lid thing really is a problem.
Would love a Reuleaux triangle lid might look nice :)
I didn't think I could laugh so hard at a fucking kettle review
That was awesome, lol. I really feel for the engineers of that kettle if they happen to see this.
“I don’t want to stroke my kettle.”
Well said, well said.
🤣
It had me rolling 🤣😂
stroke your puck, not your kettle
I think that would make an awesome T-shirt.
😂
As a Fellow kettle owner, can attest you won't need a second kettle for flow rate. It easily pours 1lt/sec through the lid for French press or self defence purposes.
Same here :) and whenever I need to fill a thermo.
lol Loving the tone of this comment
i laughed at this
Hello, fellow kettle owner.
😂😂 hilarious!
This got way nerdier than I initially thought it would.
best way to describe this whole channel, really :)
It's half of the appeal of the channel. The other half is James's moustache in the one with him in the shower
Perhaps we could amp up the nerdiness with an interview/conversation with the author of The Physics of Filter Coffee book? 👀
but in a good way
@@ImAnEmergency Which one is that? 🤣
Not nerdy enough... thermometer 🌡️?
There is an important test not seen in the video: temperature accuracy for each of the kettles.
Plus retention. Does it stay at 95c throughout your brew? Or does it degrade quickly?
This is obviously for me the most important thing I'd want to have the most accurate temperature element
I have tested this on my bonavita and it is accurate and stable at temp.
Yes, my timemore starts working awkwardly after around 6 months like you need to put it back in some certain angle to keep temp. otherwise the temp. might be jump or go down around 5-6c (sometime it even jump down60c from nowhere after 1st boom before It go up to 92c again)
I tried contact seller once but they say the temperature will be more accurate if you put the volume of the water to max and it does help but i am not a big fan of boil 600ml. every time, (when I got it first it does work on 400ml. Pretty accurate) so it does make me doubt on longevity.
I was surprised this wasn't one of the tests as well.
7:46
James : "I don't want to own two kettles"
*Currently showing 8 kettles*
Exactly. He doesn't want to own *two,* he wants to own eight.
He's reviewing eight, not OWNing eight. In fact he actually gifted all 8 after the video
I think the Felicita’s square lid is a feature, not a bug. It makes it much easier to perform my daily boiling of the kettle lid.
Lol. To be fair, I have a similar kettle with a square lid and I've dropped the lid in it once in the sixth months or so I've had it, and if you're dropping your lid in your kettle and THEN turning it on that's on the user. I get that a round lid is functionally better but I like the design of the square lid and it's really a not an issue
@@FrostedCreations
i think you're in the tiny minority, i like me a pretty design and part of me does see the beauty in this design but that's an infinite-fold increase in lid dropping
already doing so once in the first year is actually more often than i thought
“I don’t want to stroke my Kettle” -J.H.
Dang it. Was just about to say the same thing 🤣
@@Mulerider4Life I am not sure if I was the first lol
JH said that in anticipation of this comment. Yep, he’s playing chess with us.
*to make it whistle
“I’ve got to stroke it just right”-aaand jump cut!
The laminar flow breakup point seems really important if pouring your v60 from a stepladder.
Or if you actually listened to James's explanation for why he included it in his review and why he thought it was important ; )
🤣
@@SaltExarch I think the comment still stands as you would never be pouring coffee even close to the shortest distance of flow breakup o nthe worst pouring kettle shown here.
@@SuicidelG If you watch the video clip of where it breaks up, he was actually being pretty generous with the distance on each of the kettles. They're mostly the same, and only the cheapest one is one I'd strongly argue against, but you still have minor-yet-noticeable differences irl.
@@Naokarma True, but this really has nothing to do with my comment. I was agreeing that, even on the worst breakup distance, you're going to be pouring so close to the grounds that it doesn't matter.
"You ca't make water hotter than 100C ...at sea level" is a JH classic
That made me smile
I bought a Fellow gooseneck kettle today at a garage sale for $2.00 Some oldsters were downsizing and were clearing out their house. Brought it home, washed it and heated some water just to make sure it worked. 🤟🏼
"I don't want to stroke my kettle"
- J Hoffman 2021
3 seconds into the vid and I'm already pausing to looking for this comment!
Look, "you have to stroke it just right."
Hey you never know, some customer may have been like, "I'd like to stroke my kettle in the morning... what do you have for me?"
That got me a little bit off-guard🤣
It really does sound like a euphemism, doesn’t it?
“I don’t want to own two kettles” says James while standing in front of 8
thank James for the sacrifice
eight does happen to be more than two, so I guess it still works :P
I bought the Bonavita about 2 months ago after my cheapo electric kettle decided to stay on all night with no water in it and melted the plastic bottom, which I feel extremely lucky that it didn't set my kitchen on fire. Seeing James say the Bonavita was the benchmark really made me happy that all the research I did on electric gooseneck kettles paid off. James has helped me make a better cup of coffee over the last year after starting off with a french press, then convincing me to move to a pour over. Thank you James, if I ever find myself in the UK wherever you may live, it would be an honor of mine to buy you lunch.
I love this video so much. The data, the frustration, the fact that this is a video comparing kettles. I love all of it.
I enjoyed James dropping the lid into the kettle way more than I should have.
Im imagining James sitting at home, quietly weeping about all the waterstains in the closeup views at the beginning!
Yeah, we noticed too late and the edit was pain.
My Stagg Kettle has the same and I noticed instantly. Haha! Glad to see it irritates other people as well.
Thank you for pointing that out...glad i'm not the only one 😉
@@jamievallejo8102 come on people, take care of your precious EKG :p (and yes, it was fucking heartbreaking to watch lol)
@@bassmastersteve3609 hahah! Don’t worry I clean it regularly 😉
That comparison of breakup length and the way different streams agitate the coffee slurry were very eye-opening and well put together!
I really appreciate the depth of evaluation you put into this . Well thought out ! Thank you
“At sea level”
Yes, just yes….this is what I came here for.
My nerdy son said exactly the same thing when we were discussing it too lol
It's not a nerdy thing or whatever actually. Not everybody lives at sea level. Where I live boiling point is 98.5°C for example.
I’d swear that listening to this guy talk makes coffee taste better
I think this is one of the best reviews of anything on youtube. Thanks James!
As an owner of the Stagg EKG, I can definitely recommend it for gongfu cha. It is almost certainly is overkill for making a cup of tea, but for tea ceremonies it certainly provides the correct amount of control when pouring into a gaiwan/tea pot.
Thank you for saying! As a tea lover starting to get into coffee I wasn't quite sure how they would compare and I'm definitely wanting a kettle that's great for both.
@@FreshAlacrity I also use mine for gongfu-style tea and have been for a few years. In fact, this is the reason I got it initially and got into coffee afterwards. My downside is that since it's ideal for pour over, this assumes the user is standing and pouring. For tea, no one brews gongfu while standing. Why does this matter? The circular screen cannot be seen from an angle other than from above. SO if you're using the built-in stop watch, this means you have to sit up and kind of lean over to watch the time. Obviously you can use any other timer and I still love it, but this is my main problem with gongfu brewing. It's great and accurate and pours amazing. If brewing for more than one person, you will likely have to refill since there's so much warming up vessels, rinsing, etc. But it heats fast and I love being able to set exact temps for my different teas.
whats gongfu cha?
@@robinsonner5461 Gongfu is a way of brewing tea that's kind of opposite to "western style" brewing: In western style you use a relatively small amount of tea leaves (like 1g/100ml) and steep it for a long time (2-5 min). Gongfu you use lots of tea (say, 4g/100ml) and steep it very quickly (10-20s). You get a richer cup of tea with more pronounced flavor and you can reinfuse the tea several times. There's all sorts of different equipment one can use for gongfu brewing, one of the most straightforward is a Gaiwan, which is literally just a cup with a lid that you then use to hold back the tea leaves while pouring into your drinking cup. There's all sorts of things people pay attention to, from temperature (lots of teas easily overextract at higher temperatures) to how you pour your water over (or around!) the tea. And of course there's a lot of tradition surrounding this sorta thing.
Are you Chinese?
time to find out whether or not i like my kettle!
never buy anything before James reviews it, I made the mistake of buying a hand grinder too soon and noticed it a few weeks later in the thumbnail of one of his reviews, I'm too scared to watch the video now
hahahaha
This was a good reminder of James's strengths as a reviewer. The objective comparison of the pour pattern was inspired. I also like it that he commented on the length of the shorter cord on the Bonavita, which is of great practical concern, even for those who live in teeny, tiny homes.
It's a big plus for me. My outlet is right by the kettle, so it can slide almost to the front of the counter while remaining plugged in. Some of my other gadgets, coffee and otherwise, need the cords bundled and managed quite a bit due to their excessive length.
Totally agree. This is the one I own and I don't like that one thing about it. Love it otherwise.👍🏻
Thanks James for posting. Your content is always amusing and helpful. I understand and appreciate coffee in new ways! I so look forward to my morning cup!
This is a surprisingly good comparison which is fantastic. The approach to the heating speeds was a lot more interesting than it needed to be.
“It beeps, quite a lot of beep. Perhaps too much beep, but still a beep.” I enjoyed this bit quite a lot.☺️
Of all the other uses for a kettle, instant ramen was the last thing I'd expect James to say
Last thing I expected, but definitely the answer I needed.
Highly appreciate the flow rate comparison for tea and other things! Nicely done
I've had the Bonavita kettle for 8 years now. It's fantastic for my daily pour over as well as for french press on the weekends and my evening cup of tea. The volume of the kettle is ideal, in my opinion. Can't recommend it enough.
Agreed! It has enough size range for pretty much any scenario. Has worked great every day for 5 years now
Mine is 6 years old and has rust around the spout/body connection on the inside. I can’t get it off, so I’m researching new 😞
@Mike Edwards good to know! My just stopped working, burnt resistor, diode and capacitor. Can’t get them to give me at least the value of the diode. Love it as long as it worked. One recommendation is to unplug the power cord after used, if left plugged the PCB is powered at all times and what caused the failure.
Really really happy with mine. Zero issues with it ever over 10+ years. Love the pour and the heating.
Just read about business problems of Bonavita. They return with Bonavita Life… not so sure available in Europe.
"Fellow Stagg EKG is nice to pour, has intuitive design"
Me: ok i guess
"It also let you play Snake on it"
Me: _Fellow really outdid themselves this time_
Yeah, that sold me on it. Sounds like the best would be the Fellow with a better spout but really, for someone just looking for a good kettle for coffee and tea I don't mind the slower pour rate at all. Being able to play Snake on it makes it the easy win for me.
He forgot to add it also has a timer.
I'm quite happy with mine, though it tends to slow down when it nears the desired temperature. The flow rate is slow, but not too slow for an afternoon cup of tea or instant miso soup.
@@lizcademy4809 Yeah and slowing down when it gets near desired temperature is fine, I'd be doing grind prep anyway - I wouldn't be using this for anything pre-ground.
Fellow Stagg all the way: first thing in the morning, a beautiful object with a sense of humor makes all the difference to me. I have the Fellow 'Clyde', a squat matte black stovetop kettle with an unusual harmonic whistle -- every time I use it, it makes me happy. They make gorgeous, well-behaved products.
@@Lu-db1uf I have one and love it, for someone trying to learn proper pour-over techniques the spout is really amazing. You can even do one drop at a time it's that accurate. Not to mention it's the best looking and premium feeling kettle by far. A lot of fellow's products are just so well made I wish there were more companies like them (not copying but trying to set better design/function standards)
"Its a long length of unbroken water". This is on another level. This is officially the deepest coffee channel out there 😮
Thank you for making the exact video I needed six days before I needed it. I loved the way you explained everything so cleverly and it appealed to my scientific side and my coffee obsession.
I use my home Bunn machine's carafe. Pours surprisingly well and the water is always instantly hot. I use it as intended for drip coffee if I'm making for a lot of people AND the whole machine is about the same price as these 👍 I do love these over the top specific gear review videos though, always informational and enjoyable.
The empirical test you missed was accuracy of the temperature settings.
True, If you don't trust their sensors.
Very true.
And more information about overshoot. I know my Bonavita overshoots by about a degree. Not a big deal, but I am sure others are better and worse.
I think you missed the first part, when he compares how individual kettles achieve set temperatere of 95°C
@@MasqueArt I saw that but didn't see the accuracy of the temperature setting being measured. The kettle said 95 but was it?
"I like a beep - as long as it is a good beep" - captures the essence of why I love your videos! Amazing, how you are casually geek away with something as "simple" as a kettle.
Another great review.
A real talent for ergonomics - I wish the various makers would request your assistance when it comes to create a new device.
Thank you so much for the review. Just hearing your criteria was really helpful! Really appreciate your thoughtful content!
Minor addition: When it comes to gaming, Fellow Stagg DESTROYS its counterparts.
My gf was overjoyed when I showed her how to access snake
best gamer kettle
But can it run Crysis?
What does this mean?
@@sikaheimo 100fps
16:15 ... And now you all know why sewer lids/manhole covers are all circles.
They're not all circles. Also you can easily design a square one in a way that it can't fall inside-just as you can with a kettle.
Also, because manhole covers go over pipes and pipes are usually round.
My family has the Bonavita 1L and 1.7L. I feel like your descriptions of the Bonavita is spot on. It was the best quality for our budget and we use it for pour over coffee, classic European tea brewing, and gong fu tea brewing. It works very well. My wife even bought the non-electrical version for watering plants because she likes the way they pour.
That's a fairly expensive watering can xD
I use my non-electric Hario Buono to water my plants...no joke. A gooseneck really is well suited for this task! Even a really cheap one. It's the bomb for plants.
The “B” logo hidden in the handle of the Bonavita is why you have the the finger lip. I love mine mainly because it’s 1L which is easy math, and it remembers my temp preference.
I can't believe i never noticed the "B" before. It was just a comfortable hand grip for me haha
“I don’t want to stroke my kettle.”
Have you ever taken the time to ask your kettle if it wants to be stroked though?
* sad kettle noises *
Well, you've got to stroke it just right, you know? 14:36
#metoo
I enjoy how nerdy this is. There is no way I would've thought of all these variables to study for my kettle.
Had a Dualit for three weeks which couldn’t hit the selected temps below 100 & refused to heat back to 100 if it had cooled down & you pushed the button again. It would also turn off for up to 10 secs when it reached 95 from cold, before eventually kicking back on to get higher. I returned it to Amazon as faulty & got a replacement. Thankfully it behaves as it should & is lovely to use, looks good in the kitchen & was one of the least expensive quality brand goosenecks. I’m really happy with it.
Clicked this wanting a review, what I got is a review and the science that underlie the review, power curves, flow profiles, laminar flow tests. My inner geek is swooning with joy right now and I'm only a third through it.
Been thinking of getting one of these since i have the stovetop Hario right no so the timing couldn't be more right.
Same with the aeropress series, was thinking about it and found James channel when looking at it, perfect timing.
Whenever I see a new video from James, I know my day is going to be good.
I have the Bonavita, and as a coffee & tea drinker I really love it.
Same. It's fine, it just works. I had a prior version with a pop open lid. When the mechanism broke they sent a new kettle with the updated top. No questions.
"I like a beep."
"Doing this for a living kind of has broken my mind, I suspect."
- J. Hofmann (2021)
"as long as it's a good beep"
I wish the base of the Hario didn’t look like a Sony Discman
SO TRUE ... Never thought about it before I read your comment 🤣
that would be a selling feature for me
As long as it doesn't skip as much 😂
true
Well, it is a Japanese classic after all...
Love your attention to ergonomics - a man after my own heart. More important than many other bells and whistles. Gotta love the interaction with things in life.
I have the Bonavita and there are a couple things I’d like to add:
Firstly, there is a timer, though you can only use it when the kettle isn’t on the base. When you remove the kettle, the display turns to 00:00, and the timer starts if you press the + button. The one downside to this is that as soon as you place the kettle back on the base, the timer immediately goes away. The kettle comes with a plastic cover to put on the base to make it a bit more water resistant. I think it makes it look… cheaper… but interestingly enough, I find that the display is actually easier to read through the plastic cover than without it on. Bonavita also sells a silicone flow restrictor that fits into the spout from the inside - I got a 2-pack (they didn’t sell in singles) for $1.50 CAD, so it’s a fairly cheap option that makes it a lot easier to pour at a slow flow rate. It can definitely pour pretty fast if you’re not careful, and if you’re only ever using it for pourovers it’s a very cheap thing to try out that might prove helpful. I will say though, it’s an absolute pain to put in, since you need to reach into the kettle to stick it in. I don’t have small hands, and my hand definitely doesn’t fit through that opening, so I’ve used long-nosed tweezers to try and shove it in or pry it out. A friend of mine who has a Fellow Stagg tried it and said that with the flow restrictor, the maximum flow is about the same as that of the Stagg.
I agree with you on a couple of the negatives: the cord is far too short (and because it’s “hidden” by winding it inside the base, you only really have a few different lengths it can reasonably be), and the lack of beep is annoying. I only ever use the “hold” function because that way I know I won’t have to reboil it after missing it finishing. Also, the handle being attached on the top and bottom does make it feel more sturdy, but it doesn’t feel as comfortable to hold as something like a Buono or a Stagg. Having said that, Bonavita is a fairly major brand that has a decent presence in major home retailers, so it’s fairly easy to return or replace if something goes wrong. I picked up that kettle on sale for $78 CAD (about £45 or $62 USD), but it regularly retails on Amazon.ca for around $90 which is pretty reasonable.
THERE IS A TIMER. I clearly didn't read the manual good. TY for new learnings. Also love my Bonavita. I have the 1.5 because the 1L didn't have the temp control. Prefer the smaller format of the two, but too cheap to re-buy.
I have the Dualit and have been using it for several months. I'm really happy with it and couldn't imagine spending more money for a different pouring rate/style - it's a great kettle for pour overs, French press, and all-round usage.
Such a nice review! Thank you so much, James! 😊
This videos is well made. It give me overview idea of science and design of electrical kettle which is surprisingly wonderful.
I love your reasonably objective measure of pouring quality, but I'd really have liked to see it done with hot water instead of cold. The viscosity of water changes quite markedly at different temperatures, so that would definitely affect the stream of water leaving the spout.
And of course best would be a graph showing pouring quality as a continuous function from room temperature to boiling, for each kettle.
I offer this as an amusing aside, not as implied criticism of the comment inspiring it.
this is a very interesting point on its own.
I have a Timemore and another factor there is that when the water has been boiling the pouring behavior blows up completely, I think primarily due to agitation inside the kettle! If immediately off the boil, the water sputters and splats from the spout - it's absolutely awful! This has never happened to me with a standard Buono even at a full on raging boil. And as much as I love the easier control of the Timemore spout in ideal conditions, it just fails miserably in the boil scenario.
There is the additional factor that with the Timemore, the water can end up boiling either by my explicit choice or because the volume has dropped low enough that it can't accurately measure the real water temperature and just overshoots - a serious issue in and of itself especially when the capacity is only 600 ml which is very often my target volume for a small pot using a kalita.
There’s also a built in stop watch on the Fellow Stagg, which personally I find very convenient
The bonavita has this too
Real talk, do you actually use the stop watch? I find myself using the stop watch on my scale more often.
It’s nice to have, but there is a flaw - if you reseat the kettle after emptying it and the stopwatch is running, it’ll stop to show the “no water” warning. It’s minor, but frustrating.
I found it odd that he didn’t mention this, I have a super cheap scale with no timer so I do appreciate this feature
I find the clock on Stagg Ekg is really useful, as I using Cafelat Robot and use small scale to fit with but without timer feature.
Countdown to start timer on Stagg give time for me to prepare to push down espresso on Robot.
That has to be the most in-depth and involved kettle review I've ever seen, and I loved every minute of it! Sadly the Cosori kettle I bought a couple years ago wasn't included. I love its separate temperature preset buttons for quick setting and not having to remember what temp is need for the coffee or tea I'm making. I admit to testing its pour quality after watching your video.
Thank you for this content, especially to know which ones don't beep. 💜
Never thought I'd not only watch but be interested in how flow rates compare between popular options of a type of kettle I'm probably not actually going to buy. The level of this in-depth analysis on a product which on the surface just basically heats up water is impressive, informative, and entertaining. I appreciate this kind of information and unbiased analysis of competing products is now out there, but just the fact that he makes it interesting and explains why he's critical of a certain point is impressive in its own right. I feel like I could watch this guy narrate paint drying and still be interested in what he has to say about it. Absolute gem of a channel.
This has to be the most niche title I've ever seen 😂 love it
I mean it is, but boy I needed it haha I want to buy one and who better than Jimmy Huff to tell me which one to buy
@@gabrielac2663 the fellow, right? IT HAS WORM
Um, I believe this video has the most Niche title: czcams.com/video/FzOY2tHyZ4w/video.html
@@benjamin1503 came to comment this exactly. Bravo sir. The “Dad” is strong with you.
@@benjamin1503 Huh? The title of the video you linked clearly has Zero Niche
I’m really stressed out about an upcoming home move, mostly due to the multitude of decisions that have to be made. One of those decisions is getting a new electric kettle for my pour overs and Aram espresso machine… this video allowed me to quiet all that stress and find a happy place. Cheers!!
I had the brewista for 6 months - I really like it. No complaints what so ever and for me that is rare.
"I don't want to stroke my kettle" might be the weirdest, but truest (yes, that's a word) thing I heard today.
I actually asked for a video on kettles (comparisons, what factors might play a role) a while ago. So I really appreciate this one.
I kinda like the square one. The shape of the lid might not be the most practical thing, but it looks nice to me. Plus I like the idea of having this dial to set the temperature instead of a button I have to press over and over again (and even more when I accidentally miss my desired temperature)...watching this channel long enough made me appreciate some weirdly specific things.
"I like a beep...if it's a good beep."
"Too much beep."
As someone with an aversion to the blinkification and beepification of everything these days, I'm so grateful you let us hear the beeps.
And three of them is for sure two beeps too many.
Good on you James. I loved it. Thanks for your valuable explanation
Love my bonavita. Really simple to use and I think the flow is really easy to control.
I mean, who are we all kidding, we're getting the Stagg purely for Wormy.
I have it, and didn't know about Wormy. Life changing discovery!
What is Wormy?
@@FantomMind Just looked it up... Apparently Fellow programmed a little mini game for the kettle called Wormy. Cute. haha
@@Alice429800 You the real MVP lol.
@@FantomMind It's literally in the video.
I've bought the same Hario V60 decanter after your advice, James, and can't thank you enough-the best coffee-wise decision so far! I love my Ethiopia brewed in it, and I use a standard, thick-necked kettle with it. These are fancy-looking, though.
unbelievable, i searched for this yesterday and today james uploaded this❤️😭
All of my coffee nerd friends absolutely love the Fellow Stagg and have always recommended it to me, but I ended up going for something a bit cheaper since I was new to making my own pourovers so I just opted for the Bonavita, and I have 0 regrets doing so. I also love making tea in a gaiwan or just in a steel infuser if I'm feeling lazy and the Bonavita is perfect for that as well. I will say that the Stagg does make nailing down the pour technique for something like a V60 a lot more trivial given its restrictive flow compared to the Bonavita (you definitely have to be a bit more delicate or you risk pouring too fast) but I don't think it justifies the cost when it's just something to get used to and isn't really problematic after some practice.
I’m looking for a new kettle. I was hoping you reviewed kettles, and perfect! But I just had to say I love that you cite “physics of pour over coffee” it’s a small detail but you’re really fabulous with the details, and I really like the way you create videos.
I've owned the Fellow Stagg for about a year and a half now, and there's a few things that are definitely worth mentioning for the home brewer:
1. The click/scroll-wheel is extremely susceptible to grease. If you keep it near your stove and you cook with products such as olive oil, tiny oil particles will make their way underneath the wheel and cause it to get sticky. You'll regularly want to wipe down the base to keep it clean.
2. The kettle by default will hold the temperature for five minutes, and setting it to the "HOLD" mode increases that up to an hour maximum. That's why it will keep the water at a running boil if you set it to 100 degrees. It also means that you probably never have to use the "HOLD" mode.
3. As clearly shown here, the pour is astronomically slower than other kettles. If you're used to pouring with the Stagg on the daily, and you then switch to something like the Bonavita at a friend's house, you'll probably spill a bunch of water because of the vastly faster flow rate.
4. Holding the click/scroll-wheel will also start a timer with a countdown, which is nice if you don't have scales with a timer. But if you're looking at an electric kettle, you should already own one of those. Or buy that first. Seriously, get a nice set of scales before you even consider buying this kettle.
5. The switches at the back feel a little flimsy and honestly should be better for the price you're paying for the brewer.
6. It is the best looking electric kettle on the market and nothing comes close, it genuinely makes your kitchen look nicer. It's also the primary reason why I bought mine - I use it on the regular when I take photos for a client of mine, a coffee roaster, and it's already made its money back.
Just when I thought I couldn't love this man any more. So fun, pedantic and charming. Who doesn't need to laugh...I too like my kettle to beep at me.
I've recently gotten into pourover coffee and have mostly been working with my parents' "normal" kettle and that's worked well enough. My own kettle, however, has a hopeless spout to pour from, so I finally took the step and got the cheapest gooseneck kettle I could find because that's all my budget would allow.
It's like night and day, I didn't think it would matter as much as all that but it's a whole other world of control!
Thank you for your informative reviews, @James Hoffmann !
I researched all of these then bought the oxo, it is brilliant. No regrets after 2 years of use.
Same here, has been a great kettle
I was hoping it was here, but after my literal days of researching I have come to this conclusion as well. Is it still working good for you?
i was expecting Destin from SmarterEveryDay to jump into frame and yell: "Laminar flow"!
I'm in seeing if laminar flow creates a different impulse as compared to turbulent flow when impacting a static body. Time for some experiments
@@thecatofnineswords of course it does. A laminar flow would produce a constant force in the static body (scale), and turbulent flow has constantly varying cross sectional area of the stream, which means varying amounts of water hitting the scale, resulting in varying force on the static body.
That would have been epic
Only because of CZcams do so many know about laminar flow.
I love your videos. You have every case, every equipment, every comment, every time, every video. 5 stars
I got the Dugio, bought from 2 years ago. Brewed over 30 filter coffee bags and im still using it until now. Love it! :)
This reminds me so much of James’ video on coffee containers, and his subsequent decent into madness
Hi James, thank you so much for finally made this video! I waited quite a while for this content.
I have the felicita square at home, and your comments are totally what I experienced. I also quite dislike the base, and the lid (i once accidentally dropped the lid inside for misplacing it). The temperature overshoot also somehow frustate me, too. So, usually I set and hold it at 1-2 degrees lower of targeted temperature, and now I’m very used to it. Like you have mentioned about its flow rate, i like it. It is easy to adjust whether to be very fast or slow for pour over. I bought it because it is cheaper than the stagg (which I also wanted to have) and it’s not bad to be displayed in my kitchen.
Thanks again james! Always love your videos!
I have the Timemore scale, and I just absolutely freaking love how it matches the base of the kettle.
Two black squares with no buttons whatsoever.
Love all your content James.
A random quirk with the Bonavita is that when filled to the max and pouring, some water can drip out of the top. Otherwise, an excellent product! I use it everyday for tea and coffee. It's also $50 USD in the US, which is a stellar deal!
I've had my Bonavita for about 8 years now. My first kettle and it has held up quite well. Another little hidden feature is if you press the hold button when you are pouring, it acts as a brew timer in case your scale doesn't have one. I've grown accustomed to the handle shape with the index finger rest, and I feel it lends me to pour more precisely in a circular motion. Definitely recommend.
Do you have any rusting issues? Ive been debating getting one for years but there's so many Amazon reviews showing photos of them rusting.
@@LjrobisonI’ve had one for about three years and I haven’t had rusting issues, even though I leave water in it sometimes. My water is reasonably hard and alkaline, though, which tends to be not as corrosive as softer water. I really dislike the spout, though; mine dribbles onto the counter at low flows. I wouldn’t get one again.
I just watched every second of a 28 minute video about Kettles. Great video.
I did not think there would be this many qualities to a kettle.
This is good.
The coincidence here is nuts. On the 20th of this month I was just saying "I think I want to get an electric temperature controlled gooseneck kettle, but I don't know which one I should get..." and then the next morning, first thing I see on CZcams is this. Unreal.
If I ever need to buy James a custom T-shirt, it would be…..
“This is a nice beep…..”
This is an amazing video! Thank you so much for making it!
I've used the both the Bonavita and the Stagg quite extensively. The Stagg feels much better overall but like you said, i only use it for pour overs due to the crazy slow pour. The downside to the Bonavita is that the inside floor oxidized a tad and i just don't like the idea of boiling water with with a kettle that could be corroding. Great review!
I've had the bonavita for almost a decade and it's still as good as new except for a ding in the lid and a bit of discolouration where the stainless meets plastic. Yes, the heating is slower than every "dumb" kettle I've ever tried, but it never overshoots the set temperature.
The content we need from the expert himself!
In love with that kind of details ❤️
I appreciate how you approach everything scientifically and analytically; you aim for high-quality content, which is not universally true for all coffee-related vlogs. Your cheeky, irreverent commentary is always a plus. I own the Fellow Stagg EKG+ kettle, which I like quite a lot. As I only use it for pourovers and brewing individual cups of tea, it’s slower pour rate is not a problem. I like its high-quality, unfussy design, remote connectivity via the iOS Fellow app, as well as its accuracy. At $199 here in the US, it’s not an incidental purchase, but I’m a coffee geek who likes gadgets that perform well.
It’s time for an UPDATE
The lineup is missing the lovely OXO gooseneck kettle! I'm not sure about its performance but it's fast and pours very well
Not available in the UK sadly
I use the oxo over the fellow. It's faster and pours better.
Another OXO user here; happily spinning the dial back and forth for green, black and white teas and single pour overs. And filling just a little bit over the 1 Ltr maximum line for carafes of pour over coffee and pitchers of herbal tea. Have to really take care when pouring from a full kettle though. The other thing I like is the brushed surface so the fingerprints and yesterday's splatters don't show.
Another OXO user here! Been liking it a lot more than the Bonavita - better ergonomics, better pour control, and the temperature adjustment knob works so much better than the Bonavita's button layout. I see no reason to get the Stagg when the OXO exists!
(Stagg esports tournament, let's make it happen)
After scrolling through enough I found my OXO comrades, I wonder if it’s not in the UK cuz of the wattage it pulls? 1500, I remember seeing a Seattle Coffee Gear video about it and them cautioning to plug it in to it’s own outlet cuz they’ve had incidents of it tripping circuit breakers. I run mine with my grinder at the same time with no problem but I live in a new building. I suspect older buildings or different regions have different utility standards
Thanks for this. I’ve been meaning to buy a new kettle and was just waiting on your input ;)
I am just looking for a kettle to make tea with but I love how in depth and scientific this video is.
Really appreciate you testing for actual drawn wattage, since this is quite important due to different heating elements beeing used in these kettles. Therefore the resistance, volts and amps differ and probably would have thrown off your chart.