Basic Driving hours (Tachograph) for Professional Drivers.
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IMPORTANT NOTE: There is no requirement to get back reduced daily rest.
You must be compensated for reduced weekly rest before the end of the third following week.
The Most Misunderstood Drivers' Hours Rules
This video will explain the basics of Driving Hours and Tachograph legislation.
This video explain the basic rules and legislation you must follow specifically if you are driving.
The other aspects of your work as a professional mobile worker are regulated by the European Working Time Directive I cover this in another video.
you are absolutely amazing. you are the best. I LOVE it
Thank you so much
When a bloke is vawing a torch at me, I tend to understand everything faster. No doubt about it.
I was expecting to get that torch 🔦 to be switched on
Short, informative, simple 👌
l love the way you explain , l can understand you very well. next month it's my first time driving in Europe. right l'm in class learn all these you're explaining.
Thank you, this was very useful for my theory test!
If I watch this videos earlier wouldn’t fail. Having my CPC test in few weeks and you made so easier! Thank you
Thank you
simplest, least complicated, least over explained and most direct easy info I've come across. Bravo
Leon. You should start your own training school on this subject. You do it so well. I was totally confused as a newbie on WTD/Tacho
Starting my journey into truck driving and this has been really helpful, thanks
Nice and simple! Really important information that is detrimental to truck driving. 👍
Very good. Studying theory at the moment and struggling with drivers hours.
This has helped a lot.
Awesome video and great delivery 👊🏻
Good vid, a great help understanding current legislation,
Very good. Clear and concise and repeats all the important parts.
Your new student, Majid here ! Great video and very simple to watch. Cant wait to sit behind the truck next week!
i love how you presented this video, threatening but informative lol you got a sub.
Thanks, I lighten up a little later lol.
I'm training in HGV and have my test in 2 weeks - you have made this SO SIMPLE, going to see if you have more content, thank you!
Thankyou. That's wht I do it
Thanks mate. I'm moving back to the UK from Jersey and we don't use Tachographs here so it's a good refresher. 👍
Thanks so much for this. Simple way to take in information
Very clear and precise! Thankyou
Thankyou
I'm not sure if it was the aggressive torch pointing or the close up correction when I said 25 minutes for the second part of the break.. Its like you knew I got it wrong! but this really sank in!
I've got a driving assessment tomorrow which is the first time driving a lorry since passing my test and this really helped! Absolute legend. :)
This is a great, straight to the point explanation. And in only 8 minutes too!!! Bang on.
Thanks Leon 👍
Thank you
A good basic clear and concise understanding and explanation for all the new drivers brilliant....
Glad you liked it
Easy little video to understand I'm going back to driving the trucks and just wanted to refresh myself on the taco thanks for information .. Happy Trucking everyone 🚚
Let me know if you need anything.
@@BusandTruckTraining Thankyou i will do 🙂
Love this guy
Great Video many Thanks
Going from a tacho exempt job back into tacho driving, thanks for the refresher 👍
me too, I worked for the UN for a long time and they are exempt from tachographs
@@un-nomad I work heavy recovery and the last time I used tacho was the frisbees lol moving onto powder tankers now 👍
@@chrispowellutube actually I do heavy recovery as well in the Sahara desert (Mali and Western Sahara). All military trained but civvy now
@@un-nomad sounds awesome! I got my license in the military driving aviation fuel tankers but civvy recovery in the UK
Really useful information Look to change careers. Many thanks
Thank you
Very simple way … thanks
Brilliant and to the point. Cheers
Nice clear information but still more complicated than it should be .
Very helpful thanks mate
Much appreciated
Thanks 🙏
You are very welcome
That it brilliant I think that answered every question in my head thank you
Thank you
very useful. cheers buddy
Very helpful 👌💪
Thanks Leon
When i first started my HGV driving, i done a 8 hour CPC course on it and got my head around it easily
@@dicesquaresuk How is taking a CPC course explaining it nasty?
Hi Gary, The fellow that left the Nasty comment is not rational.
He has left me really nice comments ans Pschotic comments on the same day.
I have reported and blocked him.
@@BusandTruckTraining Ah okay mate, thanks for the heads up. Take care matey
Thx a lot!
vary good explaination thankz i personal subscribed your chanal
Thankyou
I am studying for my hgv theroy just now and the hours are making my brain explode 😂. I think I will rewatch this video a good few times to help. Thank you
Do not over study. It does not help and you will just get tired.
The exam is very similar to the normal Theory test with the added technical info of trucks.
Max height 4.65 m
Max width 2.55 m
Max overhang 300 mm
Max width with overhang 2.9 m
Max length 16.5 m
2 axle truck 18 tonnes
3 axle truck 26 tonnes
4 axle truck 32 tonnes
My son passed last week.
@@BusandTruckTraining thank you for the tips, glad that your son passed. Before I studied I done a mock exam to see where I would need to study. I got 57% on my mock test. After 4 days of studying I done another mock test and was jumped to 91% pass mark. So I am definitely heading in the right direction. Just a few bits and bobs now that I'm still unfamiliar with.
Thank you again for the heads up about the max weights and everything 😃
@@duncanmill2315 good luck
@@BusandTruckTraining its the weight and rest and time working time just cant get my head round it need to watch this again
Fantastic
Thanks
I love this
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you.
Great thanks
Great info thanks, now put that torch down 😂😂
Will do
Haha brilliant video 👏🏻
Thankyou
Asking these questions while holder that mag light makes me feel like I got to answer the questions right
Thank you for this
My pleasure!
@@BusandTruckTraining just passed my hazard an multiple choice questions. Partly owing to your videos
@@tomvarcoe3100 that's great. We'll done you. Best of luck to you
That torch help me to understand
Thankyou 👍
Well put together video. Have you done a video about work time directive?
Yes. 6 hour rule
helpfull thanks
Thanks
Great video thanks just Passed Class 1 and not bad with driving hours but a lot I didn't know in your video cheers bud.
how did you passed the test during lockdown?
@@wstretny I did my 1st lesson on the 19th December 2020 second lesson on Sunday 20th test on 21st we were not in lockdown then so just did it before it all locked down.
@@Droneon2012 ah ok, thanks - I was wondering how ppl do that during lockdown, because I want to attend a hgv course, but the driving school is in a another town, and with this stupid tier 4 I can't leave my place :( just thought that there was some kind of a workaround of this ;)
@@wstretny lol yes i understand hopefully it will ease soon try getting in on a sat & sun more money but worth it .good luck with your driving pal.
Great vid, delivered well... be it slightly menacing waving the massive mag light round?!? Lol Cheers.
My Phil Mitchel East Enders impression lol
Hi can't find the information anywhere, about out of scope rules. What breaks I would need. Driving for council on dustcart. Be grateful if you could give some information. Thanks j
very good vid
Thanks
No, not that good.
Great vid...i have one question..."Whats with the torch?"...😂
It's to enlighten you. Torch is also an RSA Rexommendation 🤪
Immediately upon starting this video I was practically bracing myself to get clobbered with that torch if I interrupted.
At last a simple yet precise explanation nice one mate. Just one question whats the torch for? do we use the maglight to bop the dvsa employer on the head then run ;-)
Yep
Thank you for your previous reply.
one more question if I may.
So on a 15 hour shift, I can drive a maximum of 10 hours (normally 9). so those 5 extra hours. I cannot drive? what would I be doing?
Thanks again , liked and subbed!
Sweeping the yard, Loading unloading, Paperwork, Taking breaks, washing vehicles, etc..
Hi mate, thank for this vid.. very helpful.. i have a Q, perhaps you can help as cant find help anywhere else. I just got my new minibus and starting a tours business. Im just getting started and try to insert my digital tachometer card into VDO tacho machine, I go through initial few questions then it starts flashing a message saying security breach 47 and pits my card back out! Ive tried looming for help but all anything says is “check the card” which isn’t v helpful. I only got the card about 3-4 weeks ago. Cheers for any help you can offer.
Hi Fred, sorry for the late response.
The first thing I would do is try another card in the machine to determine whether the machine or the card is at fault.
If it is the card which it probably is you can return it and have it replaced at no cost to yourself as it is faulty.
If you are returning it in Ireland to the RSA you will have to pay €45 initially which the RSA will then refund.
You may drive 3 weeks without a card if it is faulty but you must keep a manual entry write down everything you do with times and duration. Driving 4 hours, rest 45 minutes etc..
Let me know how you get on
Great video much easier having someone explain it than seeing it written down. The only thing I find confusing is daily rest, do I need to start at the same time every day or do I need 11 hours after the end of my last shift before I start work again
Within the 24 hour period
it can be reduced but it depends on your hours and how many times you reduced rest in one week
You must take 11 hours within every 24 hour period.
You may reduce your rest 3 times in any week 7 day period.
Thanks
Torch is N RSA Recommendation as well as High V8z and nite book and pen.
If you could like and subscribe that would really help.
Thanks
hi do outherwork and driveing count in your drive time im new to this and trying to get my head round driveing time i have to stop for deliverys and after iv been in the lorry for nine hrs but with stopping iv only drove 6 hrs so can i carry on for anouther 3hrs or does outher work count in the 9hrs
Driving is driving everything else is Rest,Otherwork or Period of availability. You can drive 9 hours but your shift can be 15 hours. Look at basic driving hours and 6 hour rule videos
hi bruv been a while i recently have to do some taco work on my bus this refresher helped out a bunch ! my taco is over an hour out is that still legal? i am told my printout will tell me my hours working resting is relevant to taco time not real time so is ok!
Do you mean your Tacho is showing the wrong time ?
Is it set to the correct country ?
Should ask you when you turn it on.
As long as you are driving within Tacho legislation breaks etc you should still be fine.
Get your employer to get the Tachograph fixed.
Hi, can i still use whatever left from 4.5 hours after 45 min breaks?
for instance for a 10 hours driving shift if I've just driven 3.5 hours before 45 min breaks, and again just drive 2.5 hours and get 45 min breaks, can I drive another 3 hours before end of shift or I only left with 1 hour after second break?
You can not drive for more than 4.5 hours without a 45 minute break. You cannot take an early break and then add the 2 hours onto your next driving session.
what if you take 20 mins to get on a ferry, but for example the truck in front if yours is faulty and blocks you exiting the ferry for 45 mins... so your embark/diembark total time is 65 mins....5 mins over allowed time.... what happens?
You break tachograph legislation !!
If it is a one off and was unavoidable you would hope the police officer would let you go. If it shows on your card ir truck you do it every other week then you are in trouble.
What a impressions do you have Matt
Thanks man😁🫡🫡🫡
Lmao this dude cracked me up whatta lad
Leon, what is the best solution for a 18 tonne skip driver as I’m just getting my cpc done , would you stick to the 4.5 hours of driving then have a 45 min break or 15 min and 30 min in the 4.5 hours, I’m only asking as I’m not constantly driving I’ll be doing split driving and other work
It is not illegal to have the TACHOGRAPH set to Rest or other work as its default setting.
So every time you are not moving for more than 30 seconds out of every 60 seconds that minute will count as rest and not driving.
This can really make a difference.
Otherwise you will just have to judge it according to your working day or schedule.
Like and Subsvribe 🤪🤪
Really depends on your rout and timings. Both are acceptable
I thought he was going to hit me with that light for a minute, waving it around like that
When do drivers have a law decree ?
If i dont use the full 4 hours 30 minutes on either my first or second driving period does that mean I can put that accumulated time on top of my 10th hour?
Noooooooo
Hello mate, great video! I've been away from driving for a little over 2 year's and haven't used my tacho card since then, it's still in date, will it reset when I load it back into a card machine?
Tacho cards are valid for 5 tears
Does not need to reset. Your finr
Your fine 🙂
Got a question got a dd on my licence from 6 years ago could I drive a hgv .
As far as I am aware there is nothing from stopping you completing the license process.
You would however be expected to inform your future employer of any past or current court rulings.
You only get an hour to board / disembark a ferry if there is sleeping facilities on board the vessel.
Yes you are correct. However the sleeping facilities may be in your truck if you are allowed in your truck. It is hard to mention everything in a short video.
but you have not mentioned UK domestic hours or the variations for coach drivers there are difference's I drive both even domestic hours have changed even card download times have changed but your vid on EU hours is still good been on the road now 31 years
If I ever do an hour long video I will include everything. This is enough to get you through you day to day and CPC exams
Daily Driving time increases from 9 to 10 hours are linked to the fixed week which is defined in the regulations and not with weekly rest periods.
Defined in what regulations?
Do you mean they are part of Tachograph legislation not working time directive?
@@BusandTruckTraining EC561/2006 only defines one type of week and that is the Fixed week in effect Monday to Sunday. The “Fixed week” governs anything to do with Driving time - 2 x weekly increases, 56 hour max and the 90 hour fortnight (2 fixed week rule). A max of 3 Daily rest reductions are allowed between any weekly rest periods - the 2 daily driving increases from 9 to 10 hours are bound to the Fixed Week and crucially NOT between Weekly Rest periods. For example a driver could take off Thursday and Friday and drive 10 hours on Saturday and Sunday (if he didn’t drive 10 hours MON TUE or WED that is) and as a new Fixed week starts on the Monday he could drive 10 hours on the Monday and Tuesday and then take off Wednesday and Thursday. He is allowed to do this (in effect 4 x 10 hour drives on the bounce) as each pair of the periods of 10 hour driving fall in different Fixed weeks and are not related at all to when the weekly rest was taken.
I have a question, splitting your break to at least 15 & 30 minutes what's the maximum time between these two times? Fantastic video btw, helped clear the muddy water
Hi Martin, There is no maximum time as far as I am aware. You could take your 15 minute break after 3 hours and 14 minutes then do a minute driving and then take you 30 minute break.
You could drive a minute and then take your 15 and then drive 3 hours and 14 minutes and take your 30 minute break and then drive for another 4.5 hours.
There by driving 1 minute short of 9 hours with only a 30 minute break. This is a deep dive into tachograph lol
@@BusandTruckTraining thank you very much for getting back to me. 👍🏻
Hi Leon
I start work at 6am !
I start driving 2 hours later !
I drive for 3hrs 59mins !
I take a break for 46 mins !
My question is
Does my 46 min break cover me for both WTD as well as my driving hours ?
TIA
Mike
Yes
You need to take a 15 minute break for WTD and 45 minutes to comply with Tachograph. 45 minutes is fine
Now time to go and binge watch Modern Family
I watched the whole thing. Great programme
Hi Leon it might be a silly question but got a bit confused. If I only driver 4hrs in a day but worked total 8hrs. Does that mean I only need a 30 minute break to clear WTD? Or do I need to take 45mins to clear driving time even if I only driven 4hrs. I'm just learning my CPC and got all confused. Thanks
If you have not driven more than 4.5 hours then you do not have to take a break according to Tachograph legislation. You do still have to obey Wirking Tome Directive so yes you are correct.
If you work between 6 and 9 hours you need to take a 30 minute break which can be split into 2 times 15 minute break.
@@BusandTruckTraining thankyou Leon cleared that up
Hi Dear
A question is if my time running out and almost break time but first service was full then second full 🤔 so what should I do with tachograph if run more than rest times??
I do not understand your questio. There are 4 settings. Rest Work Driving, Period of availability.
Do I have to take tacho card out on daily split break ? Thanks
You can take it out or set it to rest.
3:20 To my knowledge you do NOT have to compensate the 2 hours shortage if you are doing a 9 hours break. Correct?
Hi, Yes as I state in my comments that was a mistake. You do not need to get back reduced daily rest, Only reduced weekly rest.
You are correct!
if you drive for 2 hrs then take 45 mins brake and then it gives you another 4.5hrs driving time,how do you keep track of driving time taken.thanx
It's not hard to keep track of a days driving. If you are unsure you can write it down.
How long before do a Hgv driver have to insert a techo card (while initially doing safety checks on vehicle) before starts driving the vehicle
You insert your card and select other work before you do your checks.
@@BusandTruckTraining ya but how many min 5 , 10 or 15
@@melroymelroy5356 the RSA say the walkaround should take between 10 to 15 minutes. So you should have the card in and the tachograph set to other work for at least 15 minutes.
@@melroymelroy5356 most haulage firms give drivers 30 mins at start of shift
15 mins walk round check
15 mins secure load and collect paperwork.
quality. Why do other people make it sound so much more complicated?
Thank you
Hello, where can I buy that torch... I have a meeting with the boss on Monday and I think it might make me look more professional 🤔
It is a Mag Light D6. Great for security it is heavy like an iron bar. You can buy an LED kit and convert it
@@BusandTruckTraining the driver trainer in my yard would be well impressed if I was doing my checks with that
Can I drive for 4.5 hours, take 45 mins break, and then drive 4.5 hours to the yard and go home? Or do I need a 45min break in the yard before I go?
You only need to take a 45 if you are going to drive again. Go home!!
Thanks Do your have to take a 45 mins break in the 6 hour of work time it you only done 3 ans half hours of driving in that time or can u take a 15 min brake driver 1 hour and then take a 30 min brake to cover both rules
Yes. As long as you have taken your 45 minutes after 4.5 hours of driving you are fine.
If you work between 6 and 9 hours you need to take a 30 minute break.
Therefore the 45 minute break would cover both requirements.
@@BusandTruckTraining thank you, company I work for just been took over and new transport manager, told me I must take 45 mins in the 6 hour no matter if I’ve only done 3 and half hours of driving ( started to think I’ve been doing it wrong all these years)
The 45 minutes ot 30 and 15 only relate to driving.
6 hour rule is for working.
If you take a 45 minute break this covers both requirements
Can anybody explain pleas my company deduct 45 minutes techo break from my wages is this legal
I do not understand your question. What is a techo break
I felt like I was entering a prison and I had to learn all the rules before I got beaten by the giant torch. :| Hopefully some of that info went in!
If you take a 9 hour rest you do not need to compensate that to make 13 hours on another rest!
No. There is no requirement to be compensated for daily rest.
so for every 4.5 hours driving i get a 45 min break ?
so could i drive for 2hrs 15 then take a 15 min break , then drive for another 2 hours and take a 30 min break ? would that be ok
Yes. You could drive for 2 hours and 30 minutes. Take 15 minute break, then drive 2 hours. Take a 30 minute break. Now the click goes back to zero and you can drive 4.5 hours again.
@@BusandTruckTraining cheers , so if I was waiting to for unload could I switch two POA ?
@@nicholasbrown8348 POA is a period of time when you are available for work but are not doing anything. So yes but a period of availability is usually known or planned in advance. Ie you are waiting to swap bodies and you know the other truck will be an hour later than you. Arriving at a Ferry an hour early then waiting.
@@BusandTruckTraining so from when the clock sets back to zero after the 1st 45 mins break another 4 half hrs driving i need another 45min break ? or does working hrs come into consideration then ?
brilliant video, thankyou do you have a link to your Cpc 35hr course. thanks
Thankyou
The 35 hour course is one day a year over 5 years after you receive your CPC Card.
@@BusandTruckTraining hi Leon my Cpc is due shortly have you a link to your online Cpc course you do?
@@onetobum Truck or Bus
@@BusandTruckTraining truck
So if i insert my tacho card in the lorry at 5.30 in the morning and i finish duty at 5.00 in evening how many 45mins break do i need to take 1 or 2 ?
Hi Joe,
If you finished at 5 in the morning g you are a night worker.
Night shift 12 to 4am.
If you are a night worker you can only work 10 hour shift without a work place agreement in place.
Yes after 4.5 hours you need a 45 minute break if you are driving again but if you were doing other work you can go 6 hours without a break.
@@BusandTruckTraining cheers mate, no im not a not working lol, i mean i start at 5.30 in morning until 5.00 in the evening, so 11 half hours
Your Tacho will give you a 15 minute warning when approaching 4.5 Driving . But if you have not achieved that within the first 6 hours of work , you still have to take a 15 minute " Working Time Directive " break , it used to be 30 minutes . Then if you are approaching 4.5 hours driving , you only have to take a 30 minute break for your driving to reset . Also, always let the clock go to the next minute , I.E. a 45 minute break should be 46 minutes at least . If you move on 45 minutes, your Tacho will not record the last minute as being completed , and it will go back to 44 minutes , which is not a break . Also , you do not mention that P.O.A. if you use it , will act as the rest symbol and reset your Driving hours , but this is not a break , that's why you should not use P.O.A. unless you fully understand it . All in all, i am not impressed with this YT Video , i presume you are a Professional Driver.
@@BusandTruckTraining Absolutely incorrect , you do not have to pay back a reduced daily rest . Only a reduced weekly rest I.E. , any hour or part of an hour under 45 hours. Also, you make no mention of letting the Tacho go to the 16th minute or the 46th minute . If you move before this , the Tacho will show the final minute as not being completed , and you will end up with 14 and 44 minutes respectively. I would take this down , you make no mention of the "Working Time Directive " within the first 6 hours, or the maximum 60 hours driving and other work combined within a 5 or 6 day working week .
@@dickdastardly635Hi Dick, yes you are correct in everything you say most of which is covered in the video.
I'm sure you will agree that it is extremely difficult to cover every possible angle and conversation about Tachograph in a video that is watchable and less than an hour long.