Newfoundlander here from Random Island Trinity Bay. Lived and worked around the world, but my heart and soul is in Newfoundland. Home for good now, and so nice that I can talk in my language and dialect. We all get it. Luvs it me son!
I've met so many Newfoundlanders who have worked "away", which seems only to increase their appreciation of their home province. This longing for Home has as much to do with the Newfoundland sense of identity as does the isolation depicted in this documentary.
@@johnpearce9891 Probably less sectarianism in NL than in Belfast in the 1990s although the denominational school question would have been a hot topic of conversation back then in N.L.
This could be a duplicate comment. Not sure the original posted and can’t find it. When I was a little girl we first came to Newfoundland to visit my grandparents; this is how they lived. Their children walked around on stilts, and were down on the beach and out in the boats, playing in the sunshine on the bicycles, and playing hockey in the street, or wherever else there was a spot. The whole family worked to grow vegetables together to feed everybody, and there was probably a few critters around at some point. Grandfather fished and was a carpenter. We would go and visit another family, and the old people would only speak Irish together. It was beautiful and friendly. Outside of the odd swearword, almost no one speaks Irish here anymore. Too much is lost. And we’re all only too glad she expose ourselves to American broadcast of all kinds, and absorb their ways and language. It’s our own culture and language that has kept us together and alive for so these centuries. people knew what it was to work really hard and struggle together. Were it not for the kindness of the neighbors, many people would not have survived. And it was always done in a way that made people feel loved and included instead of marginalized. For example, when we first came home, we came from a very wealthy place where everybody had lots of everything. So my parents explained to me that at home, people didn’t have as much. It didn’t mean they were not as well off. That is to say that when you go to visit people, they will offer you a sweet biscuit, and a cup of tea or a glass of clingy. You were to accept it gladly, and eat it in front of them, whether or not, they had some themselves. You think I’m very glad you, for it, never asking for seconds. And you were to make conversation gladly. This was a social nonnegotiable construct, and because no one ever turned it down, it meant that it was basic politeness to offer and accept it. It meant that people who had very little had no shame if they were to accept a sweet treat when they visited you, and no shame if the family offering didn’t have enough to offer you a second one. There was no difference between us, at any economic level that way. Although most of us were pretty much the same. everybody tried to keep a few sweet biscuits, usually from the purity, bakery and sweet company, on hand for company, and if you were lucky, there was a little bit of butter to go with it. But that was just for company. and the traditional style of cooking was such that it wasn’t a big deal if somebody came to the house while you were eating. There was always lots to go around. You just put a few more chairs to the table, and maybe cut a loaf of homemade bread to go with it. All hands were always welcome. Nobody called ahead to see if anyone was home, Unless somebody was coming a long distance to visit, because there was almost always someone home. And there was always a place to put people for the night as well. I can remember times at my grandmothers house, when, in addition to her crew, relatives would stop by. The couches would pull out for extra beds. Us tiny children would be two to a bed. So I’d either share with my sister, or my same-aged cousin, while she shared with the other same age (cousin).. That was really exciting. I need to guys that went out drinking, will they took their chances on whether or not they were gonna end up sleeping in the car or camper. Lol. The bodies had to be there to be counted while the beds were being located. things have changed in the last few years. People are still hospitable, but the current generation I forgetting to do the things that we were taught to do. It means we’re losing some of her we are and who we were. And some of the ties back to our ancestors.
I love these people, when I lived on Grand Manan the people who embraced me were Fogo islanders there to work for the summers, they were the most fun. One young fella was kind of depressed talking to me about his accent someone had made fun of him, I said "all I hear is Irish" well the pride could be seen rising up almost spilling out his ears.
Nearly every cove and inlet in Newfoundland had its own accent or dialect. As roads got built and communities started to mingle with each other and schools became amalgamated the accents became mixed, for example I grew up in Carmanville and when the school took in other communities by bringing children by bus from Aspen cove, Ladle cove, Noggin cove, Frederickton, David's ville, main point, Harris point and George's point. We actually had trouble understanding each other, especially the Frederickton people who spoke very old English and even spoke with a different sentence structure. Over the years all the different accents have melted into 1. Sad to say the Frederickton one is nearly gone. The Newfoundland culture and accents are being swallowed up by all the different cultures that are moving in. These cultures are being promoted more than the Newfoundland one. There also is the fact that a lot of Newfoundlanders spend time away off the island and for years the Newfoundland accent was made fun of, so they learned to speak without using it. We need to keep using our Newfoundland sayings as much as we can, hey b'ye. Only place with its own dictionary 😊
I was there when the name "Rockwood High" was given the school. Before that it was called United Central High" Because all the kids from the different communities came together, or united to attend the same school. Nothing to do with the church.
It's like that in Ireland too. I remember going to my friends cousins house. It was about 15km away and she was asking me to say "cow" and "mars bar" and laughing because of how different it was 😂 probably more distinct back in the day but definitely still prevalent!
Ha! I might not know who you are, but I knows someone you knit. Did they ever finish paving both sides yet? Too many Newfies in Calgary hats, yes b'y. Hopefully, all will be back home to stay soon enough. ( how to say you're a Newfie..😉
@@thatsthejobbb8587 I remember some American kids up at the lake wanted my daughter to talk to them because they found the Canadian accent so weird. Further than 15 miles away, but still distinct from the Ontario accent, I guess.
"Phil takes me out to the shed that he's trying to turn into a pub." Drinking in sheds is a major Canadian difference that sets us apart from other nations and is relatable from coast to coast to coast, not just Fogo.
You have to keep in mind that the influence of Irish on Newfoundland's accent (or Newfanese as my Granny described her accent) is from 300 years ago. If you want to know how an Elizabethan Englishman spoke, visit the Sea Islands off Virginia and Maryland. My personal favourite is the English spoken on the South Shore of Nova Scotia. It goes from Irish to Yankee to South London in one sentence. A great documentary series to watch is called "The Story of English" by the Canadian journalist Peter Jennings.
yup, ppl heard my grandfather from Cape Ray (and his remaining family there now) and they say it's West County in origin for sure. Up home in central Labrador, you hear almost no Irish as it's mainly English, French, Scot, and Norweigian. The Discovery Channel show Last Stop Garage has shorts on here including how to talk like a (Central) Labradorian, and you can hear the slight snarl and drawl of the central crowd (along with some originally from St Anthony who came with the Grenfell Mission like my Grandmother), but it sounds much different from the island without the 'ch' that you hear with the Hiberno English influence of Newfoundland. really is a diverse range of dialects here in NL.
@@DaiAtlus79 The thing is I don't think people from the West Country talk like that any more. Listen to this woman does she have a West country accent?
Same with my mother. Soon as she's back in her hometown, you'd think she never left Newfoundland. She still got it here in Ontario but it's nowhere near as thick. Ive got a weird mixed accent as a result of being raised by Newfies, but growing up in rural Ontario.
I've heard it, too, all my life and I was born in Ontario. I think my mother used it occasionally and she was of Norwegian-American & German-Canadian parentage so not Irish. Also, she grew up in Western Canada and the western United States.
My Mom, born in BC, used to say it too. Our ancestors were English, with a touch of Swedish, Scots and Irish. I think our playfulness comes from the Emerald Isle.
Men convert more slowly than women do according to the studies. Women are more adaptable to learning a new accent. I guess that's why there are more women French teachers than men French teachers, at least, in the primary grades.
Would love to visit this place! I deal with so many people from the U.S. and Canada who are of Irish descent, and it breaks my heart when they literally apologise for being, as they put it, "Irish", so I would enjoy the role reversal of being in their backyard! Clánn MacCraith abú!!!
Also when visiting Newfoundland they all were curious as to what community in Newfoundland she was from lol she was born and raised in Neagna county Tipperary
As a Canadian, this is amazing and crazy. I have always heard a bit of the Irish lilt when Newfies talk, but never heard of Tilting or the fact that they actually sound like they were born and raised in Ireland.
There are some very distinct accents in Nfld, depending on what part you are from, but there's definitely some very Irish flare to a lot of it. Makes me homesick to hear it.
You can still hear the North American accent in their voices. Im irish born and raised and yeah they sound similar but i can still tell that another accent is mixed in
No such thing as a "North American accent". North America is a continent not a country. There's various regional accents throughout the USA and Canada and these folks are speaking with a Newfoundland accent.
Yeah I was thinking that This accent has a bit more of a Southwestern English twang. I've heard other Newfoundland accents that are almost indistinguishable from Irish!
Newfoundland is about 45% irish derived, 45% English derived and the rest mostly French (Port au Port peninsular) or Scottish Codroy Valley with good farmland. Mainly the English got there first in Elizabethan times. I have heard old people say thee and thou in old Devonshire accents
Even younger people in the 1970s, but they may have been educated out of that way of speaking now. I remember teaching spelling in grade 1 through 6 in a one-room school in Trinity Bay. My superintendent was thrilled that I spoke proper English because I'm from the Mainland and the local people complained, "Because the youngsters can't understand a word you say." LOLOL! I guess I was an agent of transition.
Really, in Trinity. I have been there a few times. I brought the Newfoundland folk rock band, Figgy Duff, to the UK a few times.@@dinkster1729 I've stayed on Bell Isle a few times and been to most areas in NFLD except Labrador
There's an older video from 1981 with an old lady Mrs. Brennan in Newfoundland and she has a very Irish accent. Her family was from here in Waterford and I can absolutely hear the Waterford in her. czcams.com/video/Sr9Ogfpd1SA/video.html The accents in this video are not as strong Irish-wise, but you can hear a little bit of an Irish lilt in them. Interesting video all the same.
My GG grandmother was Elizabeth Brennan she married Michael Flynn in North East Placentia, Placentia bay, Newfoundland. The date I have for Elizabeth is 1854, I'm not sure if that's her Baptism date or her marriage date. I have been researching family for years, like her brothers, sisters, mother father and anything else. any help would be appreciated. Thanks
I once met an Irish fellow in western Canada. He often told people he was from Newfoundland and no one ever questioned it at all. To me he just sounded like a Newfoundlander...or an Irishman. I do not know if an Irishman or a Newfoundlander could tell the difference but I certainly could not. (PS: The background music is so loud it is difficult to hear the narration.)
Just to clarify, it's Memorial University of Newfoundland in St. John's and NOT "St. John University". Good school, with some world-class programs; one of them being the Folklore Department.
The man I learned pipes from was from Omagh, county Tyrone.. he was the Pipe major of the Black Raven band before moving to Ontario Canada..the bagpipe scene in Canada was Shite before that
Careful my son. A comment like that would get you a sound licking in Glengarry county by pretty near anyone. Multi-generational pipers going back to the Scottish soldiers who fought and helped win the War of 1812. We get right testy about people who make rubbish comments like yours.
To be sure there's plenty of Irish remnants in the Tilting accent & the expressions. But let's be realistic: There's also considerable diversion - plenty of phonemes and vowel shifts have developed & evolved in the centuries since their arrival. I don't think there's a person in any hamlet in Ireland that wouldn't perk up their ears and lift an eyebrow if a Tiltinger addressed them! Familiar, yes, but also distinct.
Very true. Tiltinger? That's a good one. I think it's mostly tourism that the people in Tilting talk about how Irish they are. Also, the rest of the Ireland has mostly people of English descent so they are distinct on Fogo Island. About 1/3 of the island is of Roman Catholic origin and 2/3 are of other Protestant religions so the people in Tilting probably feel very distinct. The students in the 1970s from Tilting definitely had a distinct accent.
There's also an old film called "The Viking" or "The Vikings" that features a Newfoundland setting. The director of the film was blown up when the vessel he was traveling on exploded, but the film was finished anyway.
@@caitlinhickey6 Oh, God! It's you again! Tilting was pretty Irish! I was the French teacher/history teacher/ Instructional Media Specialist (school librarian & public library chair) at the Fogo Island Central High School in 1976-1977. Back then, the Tilting Irish accent was so strong that other Fogo Islanders poked a bit of fun at it. Fogo Joke: "Question: What does a Tilting cow say? Answer: Mooooow [rhymes with "coooow"]!" (Moo with an Irish accent!) or "I was down to that club in Tilting last week and I almost died when one of them said 'umpty Dumpty potato chips"! Buddy knew the Tilting accent wasn't the same as his. One person from Tilting said that Tilting was only Irish. Not quite true! I drove a high school student into St John's one weekend and her family name was Cluett. Now, there's a book written about the first World War by a teacher from Belorum named Cluett, but she was Anglican and of English descent. So the writer on this film may claim that there are a lot of Foleys, McGraths, Reardon, etc.in Tilting and there are, but there was also this Cluett family. The teenager's accent has probably been moderated by the fact that she went to school from kindergarten in the centre of the Island where all the communities sent their children. She's picked up a bit of the accents of the other communities and even of teachers from the Mainland and even from the U.K. My room-mate a social worker told me that the expression, "Spot on!" was unique to Fogo Island. I said, "No, it's not! It's English! the people probably picked it up from M. (who was a British geography teacher!) And they probably did. The people on Fogo Island weren't too impressed with Colin Low and his NFB series on Fogo Island although it's a wonderful historic document, isn't it? It's very famous! Some of the films are now available on You Tube. It probably draws tourists to the Island all the time. When I was the school librarian, the public librarian told me that the people of Fogo Island didn't like the series because Colin Low and the Dept of Extension hadn't asked them permission to show the films off the island. I'm glad to see that children in that film now appreciate those films. I wondered at one shot in the film of my old house in Fogo which had been lived in by a fish merchant's family and was a respectable middle class house (not Buckingham Palace at all) when it was built at about the time of the First World War. I wondered if Colin Low wanted to show how grand the lifestyle of the fish merchant was compared with the life of the children of fisherman on Fogo Island. The director of this Irish film doesn't show the hard work the youngsters had to do, does he? Yet, it's included in the original film. The NFB' s film is a prize-winning film. I used to show the Fogo Island films to the high school students at noon hour. They had never seen those films from the mid-60s. That's how under wraps they were then on Fogo Island. I should also point out that the Fogo Island Centrral High School and the elementary school in Fogo proper were interdenominational. The pupils/students were not in separate schools according to their religion. All the youngsters in Fogo went to the same elementary school and all the pupil/students who went to the high school (grades 6 to 11) were from different religions. The priest in Tilting swore he'd never darken the door of the high school because it wasn't Roman Catholic. He was transferred, but I never did see the young priest that replaced him in the high school either! The high school was run by the Terra Nova Integrated School Board when I was there, but a lot of the teachers employed were Roman Catholic and the school librarian had to be employed by the Roman Catholic School Board of the area, but didn't have to be Roman Catholic. Neither I nor my predecessor were Roman Catholic.
@@sheteg1 North American. Although I can remember some kids from Pennsylvania visiting our Ontario fishing camp and wanting my daughter to talk because they found the Ontario accent strange. We can distinguish a New York accent from a Boston Accent from a Canadian accent, but maybe, Europeans cannot.
Not that harsh. It's warmer on Fogo Island in the winter than in a lot of places in Canada. I've visited my sister in Ottawa in mid-winter. It's very cold in Ottawa. The dogs wear booties. Our dog from Kingston tried to walk on 3 legs to keep at least one leg warm. It's cold in Montreal, too. I'd say a winter in Fogo not Tilting is about the same temperature as a winter in Toronto except it lasts longer. There's more storms, too, I'd say, although Toronto has gotten some storms as well. I remember Mel Lastman calling out the army after one exceptional storm in Toronto.
You're from England, southern England? The winters on Fogo Island are not that harsh compared to the winters north or Lake Superior where I was born or north of Lake Huron where I spent 4 years or compared to S.E. Ontario (Kingston) where I live now. Maybe, people think Newfoundland winters are "harsh" because there are icebergs floating down with the Labrador current. There is local sea ice flowing down as well. Still, I spent the winter of 1976-1977 on Fogo Island and didn't find it "harsh" at all. A bit like Toronto's winter with a few more snow storms, I guess. The spring and fall are longer and the summers are less warm. I was on the Grey Island in late July and the weather during the summer was defintiely cooler than in southern Ontario. We wore winter heavy sweaters almost all the time and the water after a few minutes of wading was very cold on our skin, but that's the summer.
@@dinkster1729depends on the part of Nfld too. I lived on the Northern peninsula and it was quite brutal. I've lived on the northern tip of Baffin Island also so i know brutal lol. Corner Brook area was milder. Also lived in Kingston and Ottawa lol.
Newfoundland and Labrador are beautiful and definitely have that celtic Irish and Scottish vibe. The geography is similar except much colder because of no jet stream like Ireland has.
My family had a conversation about this yesterday. Newfoundland and Labrador don't share culture or accents. We may be the same province, but we have almost nothing in common. Newfoundland being an island isolated from the mainland is what shaped our culture.
@@Jane-yg3vz Labradorian here - czcams.com/video/TSAJSJdziu8/video.html accent and culture up our way is different. not in a derogatory way, but spot the newfoundlanders in this clip, theres a cpl of them, the rest are from Central Labrador, mainly North West River where this was shot (and my hometown).
@@Jane-yg3vz Isolated from Europe as well, I think. You have the Avalon Penninsula which has what? 20% of the people of N.L. living on it and yet it is the most easterly part of N.L. You really feel isolated from Canada and from Europe when you are living in St John's. It's its own little world.
@@sharonconstable8146 I think when I was there in the 1970s, it was 20%. It may be higher now because the outports and smaller cities depended on fishing and forestry and pulp and paper mills.
@@tweedledee5375 Don't be stupid and don't spread stupidity by enabling people not to learn to improve their spelling and grammar. Education is important, even if you don't care.
many Newfoundland ancestors originate from Counties Waterford/Wexford/Cork. Some say the accent has a mix of all three but im not Irish so my ears can't tell lol
I'm from newfoundland and I'm irish background and I was born in Bonavista but raised till I was nine in Summerville. And those who are from Summerville all talk just like Irish folks as well. All along the east coast of Newfoundland their are Irish descendants who still speak no different than yous do. When the kids were on the stilts I was about that age when I left nfld. back in 1969 we took train all the way from summerville to kitchener Ontario. I was nine years old, I hated the mainland always was made fun of and gotten beaten up, had lots of fights was put into ambulances more than once, so I got into boxing at a young age. Always missed home, we all were very home sick, it never leaves your blood. Came from a family of twelve, My two older brothers lived down home one of them passed away, and older sister still live down home. The rest of use live on the Mainland, out of twelve kids that mom and dad raised. It was the Government that screw up our traditions and our way of life, allowing the big ships long liners to use their large haul nets to destroy the fishing grounds then blamed it on the inshore fishermen. That what made most nfld's have to pack things up and settle elsewhere in other provinces. Like Ontario and Alberta and BC. It's beautiful to see the folks of Tilting decided to do a coop and not settle for what the Government wanted them to do like re-settle. If only the rest of our forefathers had done likewise. I hope your right that your not going anywhere but your kids are, which is heartbreaking! I think the government wants all rural Canadians to move into Cities and get out of the rural areas. So they can control us and not have to pay for all the maintenance on the roads and still maintain it. That's a huge expense that's what they did long ago when they resettled many communities.
Indeed, I have known Newfoundlanders from St John's with stronger accents, my old boss, I could barely understand, and I grew up with an Irish Grandfather.
I left Newfoundland. Biggest mistake I ever made. Can’t get my way back. So much lost with the loss of culture. I guess it’s inevitable, but being a part of the outmigration hurts me every day.
Im not Newfie, im mainlander Canadian with some french Canadian heritage, but and inflection (?) I hear everywhere is whachya, as in "what are you". Goes to show the way we speak goes deep
I was born and raised in Ontario, but my whole family's from NL. My dad served in the CDN navy. Ran into an Irishman somewhere who wouldn't believe he was Canadian. He was convinced the IRA had sent him into hiding lol!
The rest of Fogo Island isn't particularly Roman Catholic. The majority of the island when I was there were Protestant--United Church, Anglican and even, Pentacostal.
@@beachboys3326 No, but in 1976-1977, the Fogo Island Central High School was managed by the Terra Nova INTEGRATED School Board. It paid 2/3rds of the cost of running the school and the Roman Catholic school board picked up 1/3 of the cost. I would think this would represent roughly the number of non-Roman Catholic students and Roman Catholic students at the high school There was a Roman Catholic church in Fogo, but it was very small. There was also a Roman Catholic school and church in Tilting, but that's it. All the other schools in the outports were under the integrated school board except for one small Pentacostal school in Seldom Come By. The Northeast coast of Newfoundland is very Protestant. That's why the Tilting folks work together---because there are no other Roman Catholic communities around.
The rest of the country has a hard time understanding us, and whenever I went to the “mainland” would have to slow down my speech severely and enunciate so they could understand me
My daughter lived in an apt building in Guelph. The superintendent was a Newfoundlander. My daughter had a Great Dane. The Newfoundland woman bawled her out for keeping such a large dog in an apt. A Great Dane ain't no cracky. Just a different culture. LOLOL! (My daughter could hardly make out the words being thrown at her fast and furious.)
@@shamrock4500That's what my Grandmother said about me. "You sound like that guy on the radio who talks so fast." She was from Calgary and lived with my mother in Ontario for the last 10 years of her life. Someone I know well said I talk French really fast as well. I do that because that way nobody is going to stop me and correct my French. LOLOL!
@@vanzarockin I was public library board chair/school librarian/history teacher/French teacher at the Fogo Island Central High School in 1976-1977. I talked with the high school students, the teachers and the parents every day> I had a collection of the Fogo Island films in my library. I used to show them to the students at lunch hour. They had never seen them. Some of the students were in some of the later ones. The youngsters spoke with more of an Newfoundland accent than they would today, I imagine. None of them would know a word of Irish. It died out in Newfoundland when? a century or 2 ago?
@@dinkster1729from what I understand, there are still some folks in Tilting who are able to speak Gaelic. It may not be their primary language, but they learned it somewhere and it wasn't in school.
Cape Bretoners talk very similarly (there was a lot of cultural exchange between CB and NL) and most of them are Scottish Gaels. Newfoundland is definitely the place where the accents are strongest and most prevalent though, due to their isolation from the rest of Canada
@@tweedledee5375 Not exactly. I've heard a guy from Prince Edward Island who talked just like these folks. A friend of mine married a fellow in Westport, Ontario north of Kingston. He lived in Guelph, Ontario for a few years and people would say to him, 'Are you a Newfoundlander?" He'd reply, "No, I"m from Kingston." There's a whole group of people of Irish descent north of Kingston who still speak in a very Irish manner.
@@dinkster1729to your untrained ear it’s “just the same” and how eats coasters talk. It’s not the same and these folks in Fogo don’t sound like Rick Mercer either now so they?
Nice of you to decide what they are and how they identify on their behalf. They are what they are. Decedents of Irish people who emigrated to a remote place and never really integrated or intertwined with any other groups making a unique Irish enclave still 300 years later. It’s very interesting.
Newfoundland only joined Canada in 1948, most of these people's parents weren't born Canadian. Their parents identified as irish because they weren't Canadian. These folks are isolated, very newly Canadian with little Canadian culture interference. It's not Strange for isolated Newfoundlanders to feel more connected to their roots than Canada.
close to my grandparents‘ place in Germany there is a town founded by French Huguenots in 1687. My grandma says people from there still spoke French when she grew up. And when the town partnered with a town in France in the 60s, the French visitors were amazed at how some of the old folk were still speaking an ancient form of French fluently, albeit with a terrible German accent. I guess it‘s all about how much a community integrates with those around them and how much they keep to themselves, whether due to cultural reasons of geographic ones… if a community is large enough to sustain itself and it‘s gene-pool, they can keep going for generations
They all looked healthy,happy,handsome and wholesome.And they sound a whole lot better than you sound with your cynical comment.God Bless these people,they are the salt of the earth.I embrace them as fellow Irish people.I lived in Canada for two years in Toronto ,and I never met a Newfoundlander who wasn't a great conversationalist or a great singer or musician.
@@dinkster1729I remember with fondness the Newfies I met in Toronto.Was mistaken for one many times due to my Irish accent! They have great spirit and heart and soul wherever they are.
You're right Eanna, it is. It isn't like Irish accent are nowadays, it's likely a mix of old Irish accents and just evolving on its own too. People in Ireland don't talk like that anymore, though many words are pronounced similarly.
You're just being cynical.This was an unusual and interesting video and all you can do is make a snarky crappy comment.Don't you have nothing better to do ??
It's definitely not an American accent. It's a Newfoundland accent and theirs is distinct to Fogo although somewhat similar to other outports on the island. Pretty rude to say it's an awful accent. I'm sure wherever you're from in Ireland someone from another county would say you too have a horrible accent. I will also add that the Gaelic language has been preserved in eastern Canada and almost became an official language of Canada if it wasn't for Protestant overlords in Ottawa way back. To this day there are Gaelic universities on the east coast and an unbroken chain of spoken Gaelic. The people that came from Ireland and Scotland back in the day were fleeing political and religious oppression and kept their heritage preserved. They have every right to be proud of their roots and heritage that they fought so hard to preserve for hundreds of years.
@@selkarogers7662 You are absolutely right about Eastern Canada and it's Gaelic heritage.I apologize for this clown ,Monahan ,and the obnoxious comment he made.I was born in Ireland and lived in Toronto for 2 years in my travels.There I met many 'Newfies' and always felt a huge kinship with them.As for the accent I love the lilt of it and it just doesn't come from the Irish accent ,it is also derived from the heart and soul of the people and they've got plenty of both .💚
Thanks@@joekavanagh8997. The Newfoundland culture and character is truly distinct and they really are wonderful people! I was born on the mainland but my family is originally from Newfoundland (some from Fogo which is why I was watching this video). I am quick to defend my Newfies against bullying. Many Canadians love to look down their nose at them for having such humble beginnings and sounding different. I am used to the attitudes of pretentious mainlanders but to see them punched down by Monahan was surprising to say the least. Thanks for having good things to say about our people from the Rock! I'm going to Ireland for the first time next summer to escape the Toronto heat and am really looking forward to exploring the Emerald Isle!
@@selkarogers7662 It bothers me that someone from my own country would say something so untrue and downright ignorant. I can assure you that this guy is in a very minute minority. When I was in Toronto, (as a young man back in the 80's),I was mistaken for a Newfoundlander on many occasions as I come from the very southern part of Ireland where the accent is very similar. I am sure you will enjoy your trip over there in the summer.I was there in June.(I live in New Jersey ) and there were tourists from all over Europe and America. All the best to you Selka .💚
I’m from Ireland. These folks could move in next door and no one would realise they’re not locals.
I guess the only way to figure out is to find out who gets mad quicker
Yeah you would. Mad accent
I’ll be by in a bit… stay where yer at t’il I comes where yer to…
Jesus by I’m from newfound I hope to visit Ireland someday by
Thats going to disappear VERRRRRYYYYY shortly
Newfoundlander here from Random Island Trinity Bay. Lived and worked around the world, but my heart and soul is in Newfoundland. Home for good now, and so nice that I can talk in my language and dialect. We all get it. Luvs it me son!
I've met so many Newfoundlanders who have worked "away", which seems only to increase their appreciation of their home province. This longing for Home has as much to do with the Newfoundland sense of identity as does the isolation depicted in this documentary.
Fascinating. From Belfast 🇮🇪
Aye my family left belfast in the 90s and wound up in NFLnd canada
@@johnpearce9891 Probably less sectarianism in NL than in Belfast in the 1990s although the denominational school question would have been a hot topic of conversation back then in N.L.
Rosemary's accent is so strange, like it's clearly Irish but has a distinct Canadian twang in it
I've never heard any Canadian accent (other than from Atlantic Canada) as having a "twang." Canadians are the opposite, really.
@@juliansmith4295 Upper Canadians speak with a twangless accent, I guess. Americans have a twang.
"You don't want to pay my way do you "yeah definitely Irish lol
Typical Newfoundland humour. A quick pull of your leg.
This could be a duplicate comment. Not sure the original posted and can’t find it.
When I was a little girl we first came to Newfoundland to visit my grandparents; this is how they lived. Their children walked around on stilts, and were down on the beach and out in the boats, playing in the sunshine on the bicycles, and playing hockey in the street, or wherever else there was a spot.
The whole family worked to grow vegetables together to feed everybody, and there was probably a few critters around at some point. Grandfather fished and was a carpenter.
We would go and visit another family, and the old people would only speak Irish together. It was beautiful and friendly.
Outside of the odd swearword, almost no one speaks Irish here anymore.
Too much is lost.
And we’re all only too glad she expose ourselves to American broadcast of all kinds, and absorb their ways and language.
It’s our own culture and language that has kept us together and alive for so these centuries. people knew what it was to work really hard and struggle together.
Were it not for the kindness of the neighbors, many people would not have survived. And it was always done in a way that made people feel loved and included instead of marginalized.
For example, when we first came home, we came from a very wealthy place where everybody had lots of everything. So my parents explained to me that at home, people didn’t have as much. It didn’t mean they were not as well off. That is to say that when you go to visit people, they will offer you a sweet biscuit, and a cup of tea or a glass of clingy. You were to accept it gladly, and eat it in front of them, whether or not, they had some themselves. You think I’m very glad you, for it, never asking for seconds. And you were to make conversation gladly. This was a social nonnegotiable construct, and because no one ever turned it down, it meant that it was basic politeness to offer and accept it. It meant that people who had very little had no shame if they were to accept a sweet treat when they visited you, and no shame if the family offering didn’t have enough to offer you a second one. There was no difference between us, at any economic level that way. Although most of us were pretty much the same.
everybody tried to keep a few sweet biscuits, usually from the purity, bakery and sweet company, on hand for company, and if you were lucky, there was a little bit of butter to go with it.
But that was just for company.
and the traditional style of cooking was such that it wasn’t a big deal if somebody came to the house while you were eating. There was always lots to go around. You just put a few more chairs to the table, and maybe cut a loaf of homemade bread to go with it.
All hands were always welcome.
Nobody called ahead to see if anyone was home, Unless somebody was coming a long distance to visit, because there was almost always someone home.
And there was always a place to put people for the night as well. I can remember times at my grandmothers house, when, in addition to her crew, relatives would stop by. The couches would pull out for extra beds. Us tiny children would be two to a bed. So I’d either share with my sister, or my same-aged cousin, while she shared with the other same age (cousin).. That was really exciting.
I need to guys that went out drinking, will they took their chances on whether or not they were gonna end up sleeping in the car or camper. Lol. The bodies had to be there to be counted while the beds were being located.
things have changed in the last few years. People are still hospitable, but the current generation I forgetting to do the things that we were taught to do. It means we’re losing some of her we are and who we were. And some of the ties back to our ancestors.
I love these people, when I lived on Grand Manan the people who embraced me were Fogo islanders there to work for the summers, they were the most fun. One young fella was kind of depressed talking to me about his accent someone had made fun of him, I said "all I hear is Irish" well the pride could be seen rising up almost spilling out his ears.
That’s make me sad and happy at once. My Irish ancestors are from the very town mentioned in this program.
I’d love to watch a short documentary of some Tilting inhabitants visiting Ireland and how quickly they’d be spotted as Canadians… if at all.
Nearly every cove and inlet in Newfoundland had its own accent or dialect.
As roads got built and communities started to mingle with each other and schools became amalgamated the accents became mixed, for example
I grew up in Carmanville and when the school took in other communities by bringing children by bus from Aspen cove, Ladle cove, Noggin cove, Frederickton, David's ville, main point, Harris point and George's point.
We actually had trouble understanding each other, especially the Frederickton people who spoke very old English and even spoke with a different sentence structure.
Over the years all the different accents have melted into 1. Sad to say the Frederickton one is nearly gone.
The Newfoundland culture and accents are being swallowed up by all the different cultures that are moving in. These cultures are being promoted more than the Newfoundland one.
There also is the fact that a lot of Newfoundlanders spend time away off the island and for years the Newfoundland accent was made fun of, so they learned to speak without using it. We need to keep using our Newfoundland sayings as much as we can, hey b'ye.
Only place with its own dictionary 😊
I was there when the name "Rockwood High" was given the school.
Before that it was called
United Central High"
Because all the kids from the different communities came together, or united to attend the same school.
Nothing to do with the church.
It's like that in Ireland too. I remember going to my friends cousins house. It was about 15km away and she was asking me to say "cow" and "mars bar" and laughing because of how different it was 😂 probably more distinct back in the day but definitely still prevalent!
My dads from Frederickton
Ha! I might not know who you are, but I knows someone you knit. Did they ever finish paving both sides yet? Too many Newfies in Calgary hats, yes b'y. Hopefully, all will be back home to stay soon enough.
( how to say you're a Newfie..😉
@@thatsthejobbb8587 I remember some American kids up at the lake wanted my daughter to talk to them because they found the Canadian accent so weird. Further than 15 miles away, but still distinct from the Ontario accent, I guess.
"Phil takes me out to the shed that he's trying to turn into a pub." Drinking in sheds is a major Canadian difference that sets us apart from other nations and is relatable from coast to coast to coast, not just Fogo.
Lots of shebeens in Ireland during Covid lockdowns👌
Here, in the rural Kingston area, people drink in their garage a lot.
Ah the aul síbín!
@@dinkster1729 they call garages sheds in Newfoundland. They’re not all piling into a 10x10 shed from Home Depot 😂
@@rileylazenby2950 I thought they called them "stores".
You have to keep in mind that the influence of Irish on Newfoundland's accent (or Newfanese as my Granny described her accent) is from 300 years ago. If you want to know how an Elizabethan Englishman spoke, visit the Sea Islands off Virginia and Maryland. My personal favourite is the English spoken on the South Shore of Nova Scotia. It goes from Irish to Yankee to South London in one sentence. A great documentary series to watch is called "The Story of English" by the Canadian journalist Peter Jennings.
yup, ppl heard my grandfather from Cape Ray (and his remaining family there now) and they say it's West County in origin for sure. Up home in central Labrador, you hear almost no Irish as it's mainly English, French, Scot, and Norweigian. The Discovery Channel show Last Stop Garage has shorts on here including how to talk like a (Central) Labradorian, and you can hear the slight snarl and drawl of the central crowd (along with some originally from St Anthony who came with the Grenfell Mission like my Grandmother), but it sounds much different from the island without the 'ch' that you hear with the Hiberno English influence of Newfoundland. really is a diverse range of dialects here in NL.
@@DaiAtlus79 The thing is I don't think people from the West Country talk like that any more. Listen to this woman does
she have a West country accent?
My family immigrated to Ireland from cork we in Newfoundland love our Irish heritage and our kindred blood brothers In Ireland
Go mbeannaí Dia duit mo dheartháir Éireannach Tá grá agam duit in Íosa Críost an Tiarna
@@iamachildofgodministry9360 There aren’t any Irish speakers left in Newfoundland now.
This makes me more sad than those factory farm videos. Traditions dying, culture dissipating, what a world we live in.
Culture dissipated when the Irish had to leave in the 1st place.
It probably lasted longer in some of these remote areas like the Cape Shore than it did in Ireland. @@johnmc3862
My husband is from placentia his accent has gone with living in Toronto. Get him off the plane in NFLD it’s back 100%
You know what part of placentia
@@Underrated709 I think Chorion or the Allantois
Same with my mother. Soon as she's back in her hometown, you'd think she never left Newfoundland. She still got it here in Ontario but it's nowhere near as thick. Ive got a weird mixed accent as a result of being raised by Newfies, but growing up in rural Ontario.
They’re Newfoundlanders an ethnicity of their own fella.
I've said the "whole shebang" my entire life and just knew it was Irish now.
I've heard it, too, all my life and I was born in Ontario. I think my mother used it occasionally and she was of Norwegian-American & German-Canadian parentage so not Irish. Also, she grew up in Western Canada and the western United States.
My Mom, born in BC, used to say it too. Our ancestors were English, with a touch of Swedish, Scots and Irish. I think our playfulness comes from the Emerald Isle.
"and so we sent the whole shebang a-floatin' in the gale"
Proud Newfoundland'er here, (Newfie) ....funny my husband grew up 15 minutes from myself , and his accent is more Irish
Yes, this is how it was.
Men convert more slowly than women do according to the studies. Women are more adaptable to learning a new accent. I guess that's why there are more women French teachers than men French teachers, at least, in the primary grades.
Would love to visit this place! I deal with so many people from the U.S. and Canada who are of Irish descent, and it breaks my heart when they literally apologise for being, as they put it, "Irish", so I would enjoy the role reversal of being in their backyard! Clánn MacCraith abú!!!
My mother passed recently her maidan name was McCraith she was able to trace her ancestry back to the 600s as they were bards to the Obrian kingdom
Also when visiting Newfoundland they all were curious as to what community in Newfoundland she was from lol she was born and raised in Neagna county Tipperary
As a Canadian, this is amazing and crazy. I have always heard a bit of the Irish lilt when Newfies talk, but never heard of Tilting or the fact that they actually sound like they were born and raised in Ireland.
My parents are from the cape shore. It's absolutely wild how much people who live out that way sound Irish.
Depends on where the Newfie is from for sure too. Baymen have the thick accents.
I have uncles in New Brunswick that sound very much like these folks.
@@JbBackFeebletownies have accents too
@@ryantwitter343 Yeah! Some of them sound Canadian--those born in 1949 and after.
There are some very distinct accents in Nfld, depending on what part you are from, but there's definitely some very Irish flare to a lot of it.
Makes me homesick to hear it.
Tilting is where my Irish great-great grandmother was from.
Was she Irish or a Newfoundlander then. Where are you?
My maternal great grandparents immigrated from Wexford first to Newfoundland and then to Nova Scotia.
Sounds like a mix of english west country with an irish accent
as a Newfoundlander when i saw this i was like " lord jummpins i knows dis place" eastern nl btw
You can still hear the North American accent in their voices. Im irish born and raised and yeah they sound similar but i can still tell that another accent is mixed in
No such thing as a "North American accent". North America is a continent not a country. There's various regional accents throughout the USA and Canada and these folks are speaking with a Newfoundland accent.
@@tweedledee5375 By 2012, these folks had had a lot more contact with mainland English through television, right?
Piss off
@@TheBenzer9 You're mother
@@dinkster1729
Don't know their tv viewing habits
Well Rosemary you did in fact go somewhere, from one rock to another 😄
This is not quite as thick a accent as the southern shore. This is more my accent which is central newfoundland.
I find the people on the south shore of Newfoundland have more of an Irish accent.
Yeah the southern shore has kept a lot of the Irish accent. Cape Shore right next door definitely has as well.
Yeah I was thinking that This accent has a bit more of a Southwestern English twang. I've heard other Newfoundland accents that are almost indistinguishable from Irish!
Newfoundland is about 45% irish derived, 45% English derived and the rest mostly French (Port au Port peninsular) or Scottish Codroy Valley with good farmland. Mainly the English got there first in Elizabethan times. I have heard old people say thee and thou in old Devonshire accents
Even younger people in the 1970s, but they may have been educated out of that way of speaking now. I remember teaching spelling in grade 1 through 6 in a one-room school in Trinity Bay. My superintendent was thrilled that I spoke proper English because I'm from the Mainland and the local people complained, "Because the youngsters can't understand a word you say." LOLOL! I guess I was an agent of transition.
Really, in Trinity. I have been there a few times. I brought the Newfoundland folk rock band, Figgy Duff, to the UK a few times.@@dinkster1729 I've stayed on Bell Isle a few times and been to most areas in NFLD except Labrador
Would love to visit.
There's an older video from 1981 with an old lady Mrs. Brennan in Newfoundland and she has a very Irish accent. Her family was from here in Waterford and I can absolutely hear the Waterford in her. czcams.com/video/Sr9Ogfpd1SA/video.html
The accents in this video are not as strong Irish-wise, but you can hear a little bit of an Irish lilt in them. Interesting video all the same.
My GG grandmother was Elizabeth Brennan she married Michael Flynn in North East Placentia, Placentia bay, Newfoundland. The date I have for Elizabeth is 1854, I'm not sure if that's her Baptism date or her marriage date. I have been researching family for years, like her brothers, sisters, mother father and anything else. any help would be appreciated. Thanks
I have Irish ancestors from Tilting.
My nanna is a Dwyer from Tilting.
Me, too. My great-grandfather and his brother left Tilting for Boston in the late 1800s.
the fisherman with the million dollar loan,, has the soft final 't' on words just like the Irish ,,,,
I never new about this ,that's mad
I once met an Irish fellow in western Canada. He often told people he was from Newfoundland and no one ever questioned it at all. To me he just sounded like a Newfoundlander...or an Irishman. I do not know if an Irishman or a Newfoundlander could tell the difference but I certainly could not.
(PS: The background music is so loud it is difficult to hear the narration.)
I'm Irish I can't
Just to clarify, it's Memorial University of Newfoundland in St. John's and NOT "St. John University". Good school, with some world-class programs; one of them being the Folklore Department.
The man I learned pipes from was from Omagh, county Tyrone.. he was the Pipe major of the Black Raven band before moving to Ontario Canada..the bagpipe scene in Canada was Shite before that
Canada has a lot of top notch bagpipers.. just depends where u are. Most are in Nova Scotia .👍
Careful my son. A comment like that would get you a sound licking in Glengarry county by pretty near anyone. Multi-generational pipers going back to the Scottish soldiers who fought and helped win the War of 1812. We get right testy about people who make rubbish comments like yours.
To be sure there's plenty of Irish remnants in the Tilting accent & the expressions. But let's be realistic: There's also considerable diversion - plenty of phonemes and vowel shifts have developed & evolved in the centuries since their arrival. I don't think there's a person in any hamlet in Ireland that wouldn't perk up their ears and lift an eyebrow if a Tiltinger addressed them! Familiar, yes, but also distinct.
Yes, of course. That makes sense.
Very true. Tiltinger? That's a good one. I think it's mostly tourism that the people in Tilting talk about how Irish they are. Also, the rest of the Ireland has mostly people of English descent so they are distinct on Fogo Island. About 1/3 of the island is of Roman Catholic origin and 2/3 are of other Protestant religions so the people in Tilting probably feel very distinct. The students in the 1970s from Tilting definitely had a distinct accent.
Where are all these old films you learned about Newfoundland at? I would love to be able to check them out.
Google National Film Board and, then, Fogo Island. You'll find some. There may be some on You Tube as well.
There's also an old film called "The Viking" or "The Vikings" that features a Newfoundland setting. The director of the film was blown up when the vessel he was traveling on exploded, but the film was finished anyway.
Im from trepassey on the irsih loop on the avalon in newfoundland. Irish as you get
2 different migrations. Fogo is 1700's. The southern shore is 1800's.
@@caitlinhickey6 Oh, God! It's you again! Tilting was pretty Irish! I was the French teacher/history teacher/ Instructional Media Specialist (school librarian & public library chair) at the Fogo Island Central High School in 1976-1977. Back then, the Tilting Irish accent was so strong that other Fogo Islanders poked a bit of fun at it. Fogo Joke: "Question: What does a Tilting cow say? Answer: Mooooow [rhymes with "coooow"]!" (Moo with an Irish accent!) or "I was down to that club in Tilting last week and I almost died when one of them said 'umpty Dumpty potato chips"! Buddy knew the Tilting accent wasn't the same as his. One person from Tilting said that Tilting was only Irish. Not quite true! I drove a high school student into St John's one weekend and her family name was Cluett. Now, there's a book written about the first World War by a teacher from Belorum named Cluett, but she was Anglican and of English descent. So the writer on this film may claim that there are a lot of Foleys, McGraths, Reardon, etc.in Tilting and there are, but there was also this Cluett family. The teenager's accent has probably been moderated by the fact that she went to school from kindergarten in the centre of the Island where all the communities sent their children. She's picked up a bit of the accents of the other communities and even of teachers from the Mainland and even from the U.K. My room-mate a social worker told me that the expression, "Spot on!" was unique to Fogo Island. I said, "No, it's not! It's English! the people probably picked it up from M. (who was a British geography teacher!) And they probably did. The people on Fogo Island weren't too impressed with Colin Low and his NFB series on Fogo Island although it's a wonderful historic document, isn't it? It's very famous! Some of the films are now available on You Tube. It probably draws tourists to the Island all the time. When I was the school librarian, the public librarian told me that the people of Fogo Island didn't like the series because Colin Low and the Dept of Extension hadn't asked them permission to show the films off the island. I'm glad to see that children in that film now appreciate those films. I wondered at one shot in the film of my old house in Fogo which had been lived in by a fish merchant's family and was a respectable middle class house (not Buckingham Palace at all) when it was built at about the time of the First World War. I wondered if Colin Low wanted to show how grand the lifestyle of the fish merchant was compared with the life of the children of fisherman on Fogo Island. The director of this Irish film doesn't show the hard work the youngsters had to do, does he? Yet, it's included in the original film. The NFB' s film is a prize-winning film. I used to show the Fogo Island films to the high school students at noon hour. They had never seen those films from the mid-60s. That's how under wraps they were then on Fogo Island. I should also point out that the Fogo Island Centrral High School and the elementary school in Fogo proper were interdenominational. The pupils/students were not in separate schools according to their religion. All the youngsters in Fogo went to the same elementary school and all the pupil/students who went to the high school (grades 6 to 11) were from different religions. The priest in Tilting swore he'd never darken the door of the high school because it wasn't Roman Catholic. He was transferred, but I never did see the young priest that replaced him in the high school either! The high school was run by the Terra Nova Integrated School Board when I was there, but a lot of the teachers employed were Roman Catholic and the school librarian had to be employed by the Roman Catholic School Board of the area, but didn't have to be Roman Catholic. Neither I nor my predecessor were Roman Catholic.
I'm from westeren Newfouland, in the bay of islands, I thought we had thick accents. My mom's fiance is from Mary's town and your right.
@@Upinthegarden wow that's amazing
The accent of people from the Southern Shore is more difficult for me to understand mainly b/c they speak much quicker.
My great grandmother is from the island
They sound like a mix of like 8 Irish accents with an Australian/American twang
U mean Canadian. They aren’t American.
@@sheteg1 I know :) I just think it sounds more AMERICAN than Canadian with the Irish twang
@@sheteg1 North American. Although I can remember some kids from Pennsylvania visiting our Ontario fishing camp and wanting my daughter to talk because they found the Ontario accent strange. We can distinguish a New York accent from a Boston Accent from a Canadian accent, but maybe, Europeans cannot.
Alot of Irish and Scottish came here my ancestors we some of them my name is Cameron.
Shoulda gone to Burgeo! Aint a more Newfie soundin word than Burgeo!
How about Dildo?
This isn't the stereotypical Newfie accent, this is just Irish - this isn't common.
It is in the Irish settlements. The other settlements would be mixed.
The Avalon, the Irish loop and Fogo sound Irish. The rest of us are a mix of west country and Irish.
Like my Culchie relies in Ireland. Aussie here where it`s a little Irish but not that much
I find the Newfie accent to be a mix of Irish and down east Maine accent
Great video . Winters there must be very harsh . Accent sounds wexford /waterford .Sad the young people have emigrated to the mainland .
Not that harsh. It's warmer on Fogo Island in the winter than in a lot of places in Canada. I've visited my sister in Ottawa in mid-winter. It's very cold in Ottawa. The dogs wear booties. Our dog from Kingston tried to walk on 3 legs to keep at least one leg warm. It's cold in Montreal, too. I'd say a winter in Fogo not Tilting is about the same temperature as a winter in Toronto except it lasts longer. There's more storms, too, I'd say, although Toronto has gotten some storms as well. I remember Mel Lastman calling out the army after one exceptional storm in Toronto.
You're from England, southern England? The winters on Fogo Island are not that harsh compared to the winters north or Lake Superior where I was born or north of Lake Huron where I spent 4 years or compared to S.E. Ontario (Kingston) where I live now. Maybe, people think Newfoundland winters are "harsh" because there are icebergs floating down with the Labrador current. There is local sea ice flowing down as well. Still, I spent the winter of 1976-1977 on Fogo Island and didn't find it "harsh" at all. A bit like Toronto's winter with a few more snow storms, I guess. The spring and fall are longer and the summers are less warm. I was on the Grey Island in late July and the weather during the summer was defintiely cooler than in southern Ontario. We wore winter heavy sweaters almost all the time and the water after a few minutes of wading was very cold on our skin, but that's the summer.
@@dinkster1729depends on the part of Nfld too. I lived on the Northern peninsula and it was quite brutal. I've lived on the northern tip of Baffin Island also so i know brutal lol. Corner Brook area was milder. Also lived in Kingston and Ottawa lol.
I like it
How is it today?
My Nana and Pop are from Tilton
The OG spelling, from ye days of old.
Newfoundland and Labrador are beautiful and definitely have that celtic Irish and Scottish vibe. The geography is similar except much colder because of no jet stream like Ireland has.
My family had a conversation about this yesterday. Newfoundland and Labrador don't share culture or accents. We may be the same province, but we have almost nothing in common. Newfoundland being an island isolated from the mainland is what shaped our culture.
@@Jane-yg3vz Labradorian here - czcams.com/video/TSAJSJdziu8/video.html accent and culture up our way is different. not in a derogatory way, but spot the newfoundlanders in this clip, theres a cpl of them, the rest are from Central Labrador, mainly North West River where this was shot (and my hometown).
@@Jane-yg3vz Isolated from Europe as well, I think. You have the Avalon Penninsula which has what? 20% of the people of N.L. living on it and yet it is the most easterly part of N.L. You really feel isolated from Canada and from Europe when you are living in St John's. It's its own little world.
@@dinkster1729 apparently the Avalon contains about half the pop. of NFLD. The whole province is half a million people.
@@sharonconstable8146 I think when I was there in the 1970s, it was 20%. It may be higher now because the outports and smaller cities depended on fishing and forestry and pulp and paper mills.
my parents were from fogo island
I'd love to know if Siobhan came back home since this is over 10 years old now
Probably not. There isn't much opportunity for young people on Fogo Island. Maybe, some tourism ventures.
They're Irish accent is amazing.
Their *
They're = they are
Its not an irish accent, its a Newfoundland accent
@@melanisticmandalorian8909
We understood what was meant so stop nitpicking about spelling/grammar. 🙄
@@xKrypto98x
Same difference so give it a rest 😴
@@tweedledee5375 Don't be stupid and don't spread stupidity by enabling people not to learn to improve their spelling and grammar. Education is important, even if you don't care.
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I'm trying to figure out what part (or county) that irish accent is from roughly 🤔
many Newfoundland ancestors originate from Counties Waterford/Wexford/Cork. Some say the accent has a mix of all three but im not Irish so my ears can't tell lol
Sounds like Midlands to me and I'm from laois
Waterford , south Kilkenny
@@fergspan5727 thank you :)
Newfoundland is mainly Cork, Waterford and Wexford
Bro was like, "you haven't heard of STILTS?!"
I'm from newfoundland and I'm irish background and I was born in Bonavista but raised till I was nine in Summerville. And those who are from Summerville all talk just like Irish folks as well. All along the east coast of Newfoundland their are Irish descendants who still speak no different than yous do. When the kids were on the stilts I was about that age when I left nfld. back in 1969 we took train all the way from summerville to kitchener Ontario. I was nine years old, I hated the mainland always was made fun of and gotten beaten up, had lots of fights was put into ambulances more than once, so I got into boxing at a young age. Always missed home, we all were very home sick, it never leaves your blood. Came from a family of twelve, My two older brothers lived down home one of them passed away, and older sister still live down home. The rest of use live on the Mainland, out of twelve kids that mom and dad raised. It was the Government that screw up our traditions and our way of life, allowing the big ships long liners to use their large haul nets to destroy the fishing grounds then blamed it on the inshore fishermen. That what made most nfld's have to pack things up and settle elsewhere in other provinces. Like Ontario and Alberta and BC. It's beautiful to see the folks of Tilting decided to do a coop and not settle for what the Government wanted them to do like re-settle. If only the rest of our forefathers had done likewise. I hope your right that your not going anywhere but your kids are, which is heartbreaking! I think the government wants all rural Canadians to move into Cities and get out of the rural areas. So they can control us and not have to pay for all the maintenance on the roads and still maintain it. That's a huge expense that's what they did long ago when they resettled many communities.
Tbh tilting is nowhere near the closest to the Irish accent in the province, Try the southern shore, st Mary’s bay etc
Indeed, I have known Newfoundlanders from St John's with stronger accents, my old boss, I could barely understand, and I grew up with an Irish Grandfather.
"poverty crates" lobster pots in the north eastern U.S. or "pawvety craits" beer is "beah" thees are holdovers from the isles.
I left Newfoundland. Biggest mistake I ever made. Can’t get my way back. So much lost with the loss of culture. I guess it’s inevitable, but being a part of the outmigration hurts me every day.
Im not Newfie, im mainlander Canadian with some french Canadian heritage, but and inflection (?) I hear everywhere is whachya, as in "what are you". Goes to show the way we speak goes deep
the Burkes are truely Irish
Any room for a Clare man there?
And a kingdom lad ?..music be mighty
Of course.😊
Drop in fer a beer b'y
Few salty bys in the comments. Oh well, good video!
I love hoe the town almost looks it and sounds it but then the feckin american school bus lol
My ex's fadder is from Fogo.
Here's another great similar video about Irish descendants in Montserrat... czcams.com/video/Jfip96k1cE0/video.html
I was born and raised in Ontario, but my whole family's from NL. My dad served in the CDN navy. Ran into an Irishman somewhere who wouldn't believe he was Canadian. He was convinced the IRA had sent him into hiding lol!
Fogo Island should be called Fogo, Ireland
The rest of Fogo Island isn't particularly Roman Catholic. The majority of the island when I was there were Protestant--United Church, Anglican and even, Pentacostal.
@@dinkster1729
Nonsense
Did you take a poll to determine people's religious sect? I highly doubt it.
@@beachboys3326 No, but in 1976-1977, the Fogo Island Central High School was managed by the Terra Nova INTEGRATED School Board. It paid 2/3rds of the cost of running the school and the Roman Catholic school board picked up 1/3 of the cost. I would think this would represent roughly the number of non-Roman Catholic students and Roman Catholic students at the high school There was a Roman Catholic church in Fogo, but it was very small. There was also a Roman Catholic school and church in Tilting, but that's it. All the other schools in the outports were under the integrated school board except for one small Pentacostal school in Seldom Come By. The Northeast coast of Newfoundland is very Protestant. That's why the Tilting folks work together---because there are no other Roman Catholic communities around.
Yes my son shes my cousin
wow
The rest of the country has a hard time understanding us, and whenever I went to the “mainland” would have to slow down my speech severely and enunciate so they could understand me
It's true, Newfoundlanders talk too fast for me.
My daughter lived in an apt building in Guelph. The superintendent was a Newfoundlander. My daughter had a Great Dane. The Newfoundland woman bawled her out for keeping such a large dog in an apt. A Great Dane ain't no cracky. Just a different culture. LOLOL! (My daughter could hardly make out the words being thrown at her fast and furious.)
@@shamrock4500That's what my Grandmother said about me. "You sound like that guy on the radio who talks so fast." She was from Calgary and lived with my mother in Ontario for the last 10 years of her life. Someone I know well said I talk French really fast as well. I do that because that way nobody is going to stop me and correct my French. LOLOL!
Sorry, but Rosemary sounds clearly Canadian with a slight Irish twang.
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I hope they take us irish who are being displaced in our own country, maybe we can seek asylum In newfound land
Ryan's Fancy was an Irish folk group who loved Newfoundland and Labrador.
Irish people would be welcomed family I am sure.
In the black and white segment at the beginning the kids were speaking gaelic
They didn't speak Irish in 1968 on Fogo Island.
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How would you know?
@@dinkster1729 yes, how do you know?
@@vanzarockin I was public library board chair/school librarian/history teacher/French teacher at the Fogo Island Central High School in 1976-1977. I talked with the high school students, the teachers and the parents every day> I had a collection of the Fogo Island films in my library. I used to show them to the students at lunch hour. They had never seen them. Some of the students were in some of the later ones. The youngsters spoke with more of an Newfoundland accent than they would today, I imagine. None of them would know a word of Irish. It died out in Newfoundland when? a century or 2 ago?
@@dinkster1729from what I understand, there are still some folks in Tilting who are able to speak Gaelic. It may not be their primary language, but they learned it somewhere and it wasn't in school.
I don't get the thing about the uniqueness of the NFL accent. Doesn't everyone talk like that? Maybe it is just me learning English on the East Coast.
No, not everyone talks like these folksdo....only Newfoundlanders, which is why it's unique.
Cape Bretoners talk very similarly (there was a lot of cultural exchange between CB and NL) and most of them are Scottish Gaels. Newfoundland is definitely the place where the accents are strongest and most prevalent though, due to their isolation from the rest of Canada
@@tweedledee5375 Not exactly. I've heard a guy from Prince Edward Island who talked just like these folks. A friend of mine married a fellow in Westport, Ontario north of Kingston. He lived in Guelph, Ontario for a few years and people would say to him, 'Are you a Newfoundlander?" He'd reply, "No, I"m from Kingston." There's a whole group of people of Irish descent north of Kingston who still speak in a very Irish manner.
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Exactly nonsense
@@dinkster1729to your untrained ear it’s “just the same” and how eats coasters talk. It’s not the same and these folks in Fogo don’t sound like Rick Mercer either now so they?
Weird, they've been here 300 years and they still think they're Irish
Definitely Canadian definitely not Irish.
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It's Canadian and Irish
Nice of you to decide what they are and how they identify on their behalf. They are what they are. Decedents of Irish people who emigrated to a remote place and never really integrated or intertwined with any other groups making a unique Irish enclave still 300 years later. It’s very interesting.
Newfoundland only joined Canada in 1948, most of these people's parents weren't born Canadian. Their parents identified as irish because they weren't Canadian. These folks are isolated, very newly Canadian with little Canadian culture interference. It's not Strange for isolated Newfoundlanders to feel more connected to their roots than Canada.
close to my grandparents‘ place in Germany there is a town founded by French Huguenots in 1687. My grandma says people from there still spoke French when she grew up. And when the town partnered with a town in France in the 60s, the French visitors were amazed at how some of the old folk were still speaking an ancient form of French fluently, albeit with a terrible German accent.
I guess it‘s all about how much a community integrates with those around them and how much they keep to themselves, whether due to cultural reasons of geographic ones… if a community is large enough to sustain itself and it‘s gene-pool, they can keep going for generations
Ireland is not Ireland anymore it’s anything but!
I totally agree. The EU and Irish government have ruined it.
Rosemary does not sound Irish at all
Is nobody worried about inbreeding
Maybe you should be worried about it with your own clan.
They all looked healthy,happy,handsome and wholesome.And they sound a whole lot better than you sound with your cynical comment.God Bless these people,they are the salt of the earth.I embrace them as fellow Irish people.I lived in Canada for two years in Toronto ,and I never met a Newfoundlander who wasn't a great conversationalist or a great singer or musician.
@@joekavanagh8997 Lots of Newfoundlanders in Toronto or there were at one time apparently. Now, they are all out west in Alberta working, I guess.
@@dinkster1729I remember with fondness the Newfies I met in Toronto.Was mistaken for one many times due to my Irish accent! They have great spirit and heart and soul wherever they are.
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I'm not surprised because to Canadian ears your Irish brogue is very similar to the Newfoundland accent
the accent is weird as F.
No it's not. You just have a hearing problem.
You're right Eanna, it is. It isn't like Irish accent are nowadays, it's likely a mix of old Irish accents and just evolving on its own too. People in Ireland don't talk like that anymore, though many words are pronounced similarly.
@eanna. This was a very isolated island for years. Most of their descendants are from the 1700s. So it’s an old accent mixed with others. That’s all.
A REMOTE ISLAND OFF THE EASTERN COAST OF CANADA?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 REMOTE????? LARDDD CHRIST. 😂
The woman saying she's just as Irish as us doesn't even sound Irish, horrible American accent "and" = "Eeeend".
You're just being cynical.This was an unusual and interesting video and all you can do is make a snarky crappy comment.Don't you have nothing better to do ??
It's definitely not an American accent. It's a Newfoundland accent and theirs is distinct to Fogo although somewhat similar to other outports on the island. Pretty rude to say it's an awful accent. I'm sure wherever you're from in Ireland someone from another county would say you too have a horrible accent. I will also add that the Gaelic language has been preserved in eastern Canada and almost became an official language of Canada if it wasn't for Protestant overlords in Ottawa way back. To this day there are Gaelic universities on the east coast and an unbroken chain of spoken Gaelic. The people that came from Ireland and Scotland back in the day were fleeing political and religious oppression and kept their heritage preserved. They have every right to be proud of their roots and heritage that they fought so hard to preserve for hundreds of years.
@@selkarogers7662 You are absolutely right about Eastern Canada and it's Gaelic heritage.I apologize for this clown ,Monahan ,and the obnoxious comment he made.I was born in Ireland and lived in Toronto for 2 years in my travels.There I met many 'Newfies' and always felt a huge kinship with them.As for the accent I love the lilt of it and it just doesn't come from the Irish accent ,it is also derived from the heart and soul of the people and they've got plenty of both .💚
Thanks@@joekavanagh8997. The Newfoundland culture and character is truly distinct and they really are wonderful people! I was born on the mainland but my family is originally from Newfoundland (some from Fogo which is why I was watching this video). I am quick to defend my Newfies against bullying. Many Canadians love to look down their nose at them for having such humble beginnings and sounding different. I am used to the attitudes of pretentious mainlanders but to see them punched down by Monahan was surprising to say the least. Thanks for having good things to say about our people from the Rock! I'm going to Ireland for the first time next summer to escape the Toronto heat and am really looking forward to exploring the Emerald Isle!
@@selkarogers7662 It bothers me that someone from my own country would say something so untrue and downright ignorant. I can assure you that this guy is in a very minute minority.
When I was in Toronto,
(as a young man back in the 80's),I was mistaken for a Newfoundlander on many occasions as I come from the very southern part of Ireland where the accent is very similar.
I am sure you will enjoy your trip over there in the summer.I was there in June.(I live in New Jersey ) and there were tourists from all over Europe and America.
All the best to you Selka .💚
This is where my dad was born.