The Wish weapons are actually really, really good (Season 23)
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- I am more than pleasantly surprised, the Season of the Wish weapons lowkey bang. Let's explore them.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - The Weapons
0:10 - Supercluster
2:38 - Scatter Signal
5:03 - Appetence
6:27 - Lethophobia
8:01 - Scalar Potential
9:20 - Doomed Petitioner
11:32 - Meta/Loadout Considerations - Hry
Got a few more surprises for you guys before the holiday season is out, might cover the Dawning weapons if that's of interest to you guys.
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Hi AscendantNomad, thank u so much for uploading this informative video there are definitely a lot of great or at least interesting weapon perk combos on this season's weapons that I would like to get my hands on. I've been actively keeping up with your other videos and even channel features (loved the spicy clips video #34 you did with TDT) and your takes about Bungie and different aspects of D2 are great food for thought topics. I wanted to ask you tho, what is the website you are using in this video to see the stat rolls of D2 weapons with specific perks on them and can this website be used on your phone?
P.S. love the voice.
You’re highly mistaken on appetence, the pvp roll is overflow and killing tally! Overflow doesn’t count as a reload so you can keep the stacks of killing tally increasing. I’ve got hundreds of pvp kills with mine at this point and once you start chaining x2-3 KT it’s insane… very slept on people will never adopt it even if it’s good
What's the website your using for the weapon rolls?
Hey! Chances are you're too busy to reply to this, but I have the same question as @sebastianlocke94 ; what website are you using to simulate the different weapon rolls?
One thing to note is that you don't have to land crits to build up precision instrument, just hits. The perk only buffs crit damage, though.
For my Doomed Petitioner I run max stability, enhanced Reconstruction and enhanced Precision instrument. Unfortunately as a solo player that doesn't have op raid weapons I have to go for the second best option. Sure fire team finder is in the game but I've never done a raid let alone beat one so no one has time to raid with me. I avoid discord LFG because of the toxic users.
@@Zero-rj6re might be the second best option for linears but i'd say it's nearly as good if not just as good as a crafted cataclysmic
10:22 Just a small note: Vorpal only adds 10% damage on heavy weapons
You've missed thr truly insane secret sauce roll: Under Over Scatter Signal to guaranteed murder void overshield enemies. I'm not trolling
And woven mail, and rifts.
Felt unhinged going into trials matches and laughing whenever I saw three void titans on the enemy team, knowing the absolute suffering they were about to experience
Yup. And I’m gonna keep it in mine. I have been absolutely slapping strand woven mail wearing and void overshield wearing guardians ever since I crafted it. Light gg has my roll grades as a D. It’s easily an S tier rapid fire fusion for the crucible with the roll I have.
@BJJrollerT what rolls dod you put on it, including the barrel, mag and masterwork
@@BJJrollerTI'm pretty sure the ranking that lightgg has is based off popularity of a roll, not viability
As detailed from Legoleflash, Scatter Signal also is the first fusion with Under Over, which grants a 20% damage buff against Overshields and Woven Mail, and lowers the bolt count from 8 to 9 for a kill (assuming you're running Liquid Coils against Overshields). Very useful against any barricade or Strand Titans.
edit: 9 to 8
Also speccing into range has been really good consistency wise over stability.
I assume you meant 9 to 8, not 8 to 9
@@konnerwilley4844 Yeah you're right. corrected it
Something important to note with Appentance, destroying a Headstone crystal can proc column 3 perks on enemies the shatter damage hits as long as you do it with the gun, so Demo/Headstone can be a really nice combo for getting a ton of grenade energy fast.
Shatter kills don't proc Demo, so it's not as good as you would hope. But Demo will always be one of the strongest left column perks in the game regardless.
@@Pocket_Fox I'm pretty sure it does proc Demo, the same way it procs Unrelenting on Eyasluna, or Dragonfly proccing Incandescent or Demo.
@martinprovo2389 Depends if it counts as a "shatter" kill. Dragonfly and Incandescent kills count as weapon kills, which is really nice. Voltshot is a mixed bag, as it depends on the order of operations (only chain kills from a killed target count as weapon kills, while chain kills from an alive target do not).
Stasis grenade kills are sometimes "Shatter" kills, which are NOT grenade kills, and Headstone "Shatter" kills are sometimes NOT weapon kills. It's inconsistent and frustrating.
Fun fact: Killing Tally does NOT recognize Demolitionist grenade throws as a "reload". This blew my mind when I tested it. Demolitionist + Killing Tally is super viable combo.
@@Pocket_Fox The killing tally thing is good to know, I knew Demo doesn't proc Kill Clip, so that lines up.
I think the thing with Shatter kills is more of an issue with the grenades the way they coded it because I think for the longest time they always had an issue with shatter from glacier nades counting as grenade kills and they finally sorted it, because it used to not spawn an Elemental well when those mods were around. I think they fixed it though eventually, because that ability spam was my favoritedue to fragments.
I know it procs weapon related perks though because that's how Verglas Curve works with the wavefront swap, or kills with its own crystals in general and with Eyasluna + Unrelenting, because that was a combo in a video that Kackis talked about which is why I always wanted it.
For whatever reason the coding always associated with the shatter itself I guess because it counting as ability never was consistent.
@martinprovo2389 That makes sense.
Maybe it's more the grenade issue that I'm remembering, rather than Headstone. It's honestly been a while since I played Stasis consistently, given how strong other elements have been, lol.
13:05 One note about precision instrument: I don’t know if it was glitched or not when I tested it with friends, but a divinity bubble completely negates the perk from activating. My guess is that, because you’re not technically hitting the enemy themselves, and it’s coded to activate when you do, it never activates. So you’re only really getting the damage increase from div
The pulse is the best arc pulse there has been. Has keep away and headseeker and is wow. Headseeker is phenomenal on it and the trait perk is fantastic.
Interesting, I got completly opposite opinion about scalar potential. Probably my favourite pulse after BxR.
Same bro.
Yeah under over is slept on especially in pvp and GMs any bonus dmg to non matching shields is a breath of fresh air in a gm
@@josephstanton1556 the fully crafted Keep Away/Headseeker roll feels like a laser in PVP.
same this thing melts and way easier to obtain than the pulse from Crota
I don’t know if you just didn’t like scalar potential, but for me, at least, it’s one of the best feeling pulses I’ve ever used. I think it performs outside of its stats, I don’t know, I’m not really sure how to say that I’m trying to say. I know it feels really really good
Same, I think it's perk keep away or something. Bar far the most consistent and sticky rapid fire pulse I used. I love it.
it's got a set recoil pattern which definitely helps, the burst will always follow the same basic pattern and position so it's much less random. definitely helps the feel as it's more predictable in where your shots land
wallah made a vid on it cuz he lovessss it. he mentioned the recoil being very nice. I'm kind of a pvp noob, but compared to every pulse I've tried this thing is just so effortless and smooth. Headshots come real easy with it. It just feels really nice to use and I can't really describe it either.
I love it too the bit I used it. Plus having a rapid-fire version of Hollow Denial is awesome.
Same, the gun shreds and is the best feeling 540 I've ever used. Something about it feels significantly better than any other 540. I guess it's keep away and the recoil. First 540 I don't have to spec into max stability. I think he didn't give it enouhg of a try.
scatter signal my beloved, riptide can finally rest...
The perk synergies are great to see on weapons that have good designs. Fashion and function.
Supercluster with cascade point is amazing for bursting down majors in higher end activities. Being a special and cascade requiring either kills or just crits, it's EXTREMLY easy to proc at any time with a primary or power weapon, whether it being for bursting majors during ad clear or for boss dps. The other perks it has are available on other slugs, and with Heritage available while also doing 15% more base damage, so with that being the case cascade point is the clear choice. It's the best way to take out higher health yellow bars just due to how fast it puts those shots out, even compared to Heritage with recombination(especially considering it's extremly easy to miss the buffed first shot in the chaos of an arena filled with shooting ads, and therefore flinch), and make for a great alternative and tool worthy of a coveted slot in anyone's vault. And hell, because acendant alloys are(finally) eaisly obtainable why not craft 2 of them?
I think the perk permeability is very slept on, scalar potential can become strand using unraveling rounds with golden tricorn & make tangles on kills
I think you need to re-look at scalar potential. It really is a phenomenal pulse rifle and the origin perk caters well to pvp.
Slice on Scatter Signal is unique: you lose out on the mag size of Overflow, but halving enemy damage is huge for survivability and team play, especially if you're not using a Strand subclass.
Overflow on Scatter is actually even better because enhanced makes it overflow a bit more than double, probably more so than you can use in a damage phase.
You forgot to mention the intrinsic benefit of aggressive pulse linear fusion rifles. If your aim is trash on the initial shot, you can still land a partial amount of damage with the rest of the bolts, whereas if you shoot and miss a single bolt linear, there goes your entire round's worth of damage.
Does a single burst give you 3 stacks of Precision Instrument? I know Chill Clip doesn't work like that, unfortunately (that would have been so cool!).
Edit: I just rewatched the video more closely and the answer is YES! Max stacks in only 2 bursts.
For people that don't consistently hit their initial shot, I can definitely see aggressive frames being a bit better
But if we're strictly talking about ease of use for optimal damage, the recoil on aggressive frames makes it really annoying to use on dungeon bosses especially when nobody uses div in dungeons
How the hell have I not discovered your video until now. Brilliant
I'm a designer by trade, and these recent white bg thumbnails are extremely appealing.
Love your new editing and video style
All are probably the best weapons we’ve seen in a season this year for their type! Great video too
I have 5/6 patterns already. And 3/5 of them fully crafted. The shotty, fusion, and trace. I love the trace, headstone and demo is so good for my stasis Titan build.
I LOVE scatter. I have it crafted with overflow controlled burst and it is chefs kiss
4:55 I maxed out range (not fullbore though) with enhanced perpetual and enhanced over under and my god it’s a beast. It can kill any guardian at any resilience even with over shields in a healing rift or with woven mail. Very very very solid/reliable
Finally a season where the seasonal weapons aren't completely irrelevant.
Just got my first solo flawless spire using Doomed Petitioner for the first boss. It went great.
Permeability has some odd behavior with exotics that give surges to matching elements. It doesn't forget its original element, so you can stack x3 on your legs for the original and x4 from matching (e.g. Icefall Mantle) to get wild performance.
Appearance with Overflow/Killing Tally is pretty funny on a Ballidorse Shadebinder. Easy to rev up KT and go on a tear without ever reloading thanks to Overflow feeding bricks straight into the mag.
It sounds odd but I crafted my Appentence with Deconstruct and Clown with stability/capacity traits. It fires and fires and fires........and fires. Get this thing on a crit after a reload and it becomes a real long rolling workhorse. Sometimes you just want a fun gun that does things others don't
Doomed petitioner is actually my go to weapon for the final boss of the new dungeon. Surrounded just works so well there
Scatter signal with slice is also a nice dps roll, since torch is essentially putting double weaken on a target
I like slice with controlled burst on the scatter signal
Picking up everything but the pulse rifle. Oversoul Edict just feels like the best rapidfire pulse rifle between voltshot & sword logic.
Overflow Cascade Point on Until Its Return (strand rapid fire shotgun) is really fun. Not generally practical but very fun to just delete champions by firing a shotgun quickly. Supercluster probably has similar feel although Im not sure how the shooting experience will be since you care about crits more on this than a pellet shotgun.
Pair apentance crafted with demolitionist wellspring with chain of command with demolitionist+ osmiomancy gloves and any special weapon with demolitionist + bleak watcher it's nuts
“Plus you need to be a special kind of catch to even entertain that (cascade point Supercluster) thought.”
Idk, I ran it on my gyrfalcon hunter with Buried Bloodline to quickly ding a red bar and it deleted the wardweavers in the abomination boss fight in a coil run lol. Get devour going, invis, ding a red bar to trigger cascade, ding the wizard once w Bloodline to break its shield and apply weaken, then unload w Supercluster. Could see it being nice in the Ruins boss fights where you only activate one totem and get like 5 seconds for dps or shorter situations like that.
Appetence with Demo+headstone on a renewal grasp hunter is SO INSANE!
paired with artifact mods, it's one of the best legendary options for the slot.
Scalar potential feels difficult to use because of its deterministic recoil. I got mine crafted and tried it in crucible and was not having a good time. While it may be great in skilled hands, it has a higher barrier of entry that makes picking it up for the first time a rodeo you don't want to be on.
Funnily enough. I cant remember which activity it was in ( either in crucible i believe or some higher tier content) that dragons perk reamins constantly active if not in a fireteam
Lethalphobia also has a good roll for void builds, repulsor brace and explosive arrows
I got 2 doomed petitioners with reconstruction and precision instrument. And theyre great
Yesterday we did 6 doomed petitionners on oryx all recon/ precision and we one phased with 4 bombs. I don’t remember all the supers but I know there were 2 nighthawk golden guns
Remember Cenotaph on warlock, that with killing tally on the trace is so good
Thanks!
“It’s not the fastest time to kill”
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I want to add something about Appetance as well: out of over 600 guns in this game, only 14 weapons can roll with the specific combination of Demolition and Wellspring. Out of 14 of those weapons, 4 are Primary Weapons and 3 are Special Weapons. Out of them, only 3 of them can be crafted weapons.
These weapons are: the Optative 180 RPM Handcannon, the Appetance Trace Rifle, and the Judgement of Kelgorath Aggressive Glaive.
This combination is special because, when crafted, the Appetance and the Optative each grant 18% Grenade energy on a kill. Enhanced, 20% per kill.
The glaive stands out for its ability to instead provide 31% grenade energy, however as this is a glaive, even I'm not sure if this is a worthwhile thing to go for.
But anyways, out of all these weapons, Appetance can easily generate so much grenade energy the easiest. Imagine the kind of add clear this weapon can help you achieve!
Anddd again, yes headseeker does help the forgiveness of rapid fire pulses! I’d appreciate this set of reviews a lot more if the info you provide isn’t just absolutely downright wrong, I can link you a headseeker spreadsheet on every resilience if you “wish”
the only use i can think of for the scalar potential is if u want to have strand wapons in all 3 slots it can switsh wapon damege typ when u use the class ability the damege typ wil matsh your subclass til u stow it
0:49 “hunter dodge more then politician” - that’s just straight up killed me T_T
someone said it below but in a much less... reasonable way, but scalar potential does have 1 benefit over most rapid fire pulses, its got the new set recoil pattern, so every burst always has the same directional pattern meaning recoil direction is less important. I personally hate darkest before because of the recoil patterns and imo the perks on horrors least are kinda bad, but this pulse just feels good, maybe it's more noticeable on controller rather than kbm but even in 3v3 I've been doing better using it than any other weapon recently. (plus it has the same base model as my favourite all time Crucible weapon cold denial so it's instantly better)
Just to throw this in there precision instrument doesn’t proc on a div bubble only the physical crit on the boss. Tested this multiple times in ghosts of the deep
I see appetence being good with stasis lock but that’s it for titans we only use strand and solar and maybe void depends and hunters now use solar with void and strand for the quick ass reload and envious breaking
What is that app or website you use to look at the perks and stats of the weapons
What's the site being used for the build craft? I've never seen it before
Is there really a use for the void linear? Other than surge matching, I i can't see a scenario where I'd be using it over the RoN linear.
what website is that you were using to show the weapon perks?
I crafted scatter signal with overflow and Controlled burst. Shreds the bosses on the moon activity. It. Does. Work. Mines a 16 round mag with 2 in reserves😅
what is that website you use to show the perks and stuff?
Scalar potential’s niche is in it having permeability with golden tricorn to proc golden tricorn on any subclass brother that’s its secret
And lets you run a strong kinetic special
4TTC and Deconstruct on Supercluster for max ammo efficiency
The sights on Oversoul is nasty, so that’s why Scalar is rightfully more popular
can anyone tell me the name of that perk combination simulator thing that is used in this video?
Of course the one time I buy the dungeon key instead of the seasonal activity the seasonal activity is actually good with decent chase weapons
what website do u use for checking weapon traits ?
10:24 did they change vorpal on heavies back to 15? Cause I thought it went 20/15/10, with those number being primary/energy/heavy
It's definitely still 10% on heavies, he just misremembered I believe
Under over on the scatter is insanely good for trials right now.
The politician comment was gold.
Maybe spend some more time with scalar potential, it’s got potential after all ;)
the amount of people that look over killing tally + overflow for pvp is crazy
"Dodge more often then politicians" Indeed sir. Do you even Lie and Shake hands? lol
I still feel like Scalar Potential should've been a Lightweight instead of a Rapid-Fire. We already have three Arc Rapid-Fire Pulses in play, we didn't need a 4th, not yet at least.
I used my crafted scatter signal to solo flawless the new dungeon
Just fyi thw tracerifle with demo and killing tally means you can have 100% uptime on killing tally on an osmiomancy warlock
We are approaching unheard of levels of weapon reskinning
To be fair, i think precision instrument is just sustained damage now? My bow specifically says sustained. Either way. 30% buff to a harder hitting frame than precision frame linears. It definitely will do more dps than cataclysmic. My briars contempt already can do more with just frenzy let alone focused fury
what website is he using to check how the perks affects them
7:34 Lethophobia has to have a lucky pants build for pvp already
Appetence has demo headstone, you’ll be throwing grenades like crazy on it
What website was he using to show the stats and rolls?
Weird, i tried using d2 foundry to check the doomed petitioner, and at max envious assassin its giving me 13 in the mag not 15 like in your video, has something changed? O.o
If I'm to believe the title then yes Nomad, they are good.
Ok but using repulsor plus tricorn on a volatile rounds controlled demolition titan is one of the strongest things ive used on void titan
As a Prodigal Player, I appreciate the summary of Best In Slot
What website did you use in this video?
Thankyuuuuu
I run reconstruction and cascade on super love it and slide shot fragile focus for pvp
I love how I immediately went into the Supercluster section thinking "oh he's totally gonna talk about Cascade Point shenanigans and how good it is" and uh. Apparently I'm unhinged lmao
I really liked Scalar when I tried it. An Adept Horrors Least is probably better, but my roll doesn't have the best perks, and I really, REALLY hate the sights on Oversoul. Scalar just felt nice to shoot, I dunno.
lol i crafted the 1 wepon that you said is bad i thought of the perk that changes the damage type but theirs better options for everything else to.
deconstruct + 4ttc supercluster is kinda fun actually.
i havent played destiny since witch queen any site i can go to to know what are good perks for pvp and pve, along with good builds i have no idea whats good dfor titan
what is that website you are using in minute 2:19
I cant get the subjective vex smg to drop for me not even 1 where can I get it to drop?
Cascade point unfortunately sucks because it has such a short active time
The bow can roll with Repulsor Brace + Explosive Head. That's the absolute dream roll for volatile builds.
What is the supercharge for a weapons? How is that works idk
I think the issue with supercluster is just that slugs are strictly worse for double special dps. Agressives are stcitly better for people not doing the swap bug like the maniacs in speedruns and rapid fire pellets are just better cascade point users.
I don't know how it happened but I was able to stuff 19 rounds into my doomed petitioner with enhanced envious assassin
We've already got a 3 burst linear with enhanced surrounded in Briar's Contempt, meaning there's no reason to not craft precision instrument on the new one, variety is the name of the game. I guess you could craft 2, one with each perk, for different boss fights and surges now that alloys are a dime a dozen. Bungie really needs to let us permanently unlock perks on weapons and allow us to freely swap at the enclave so we don't have to either use 2 precious vault slots to spend extra mats whenever we wanna swap perks for a specific situation.
Doomed as a much better origin trait tho so other than activities with solar surges I see no reason of using Briar over doomed. And most surge activities are 1830+ so I wouldnt think you would even be using a surrounded LFR