Drag Race: 2005 Subaru Outback 3.0R vs 2023 Outback 2.4T
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- (Virtual) DRAG RACE: 2005 Subaru Outback 3.0R vs 2023 Outback 2.4T. For more details on this you can read our full report here: drivingenthusiast.com.au/2023...
00:00 - Intro
00:32 - 2005 Subaru Outback walk-around
03:28 - Virtual drag race details
04:19 - 2005 Outback engine sound tests
05:42 - 2005 Outback 0-100 tests
07:05 - Exhaust sound comparison; 2.4T vs 3.0R
08:21 - Drag race
09:07 - In-car speedo comparison
09:46 - Vbox results
10:01 - Conclusion
2005 Subaru Outback R specifications:
180kW (245PS) / 297Nm, 3.0-litre flat 6-cylinder
5-speed auto transmission with all-wheel drive
Claimed 0-100km/h: 8.5 seconds
Official average fuel consumption: 10.2L/100km
Boot space: N/A
Price: AU$46,490 (when new)
2023 Subaru Outback Sport XT specifications:
183kW (249PS) / 350Nm, 2.4-litre turbo 4-cylinder
CVT auto transmission with all-wheel drive
Claimed 0-100km/h: 7.5 seconds
Official average fuel consumption: 9.0L/100km
Boot space: 522L
Price: AU$52,190 (not including on-road costs, at time of upload)
What's quicker, the new Subaru Outback Sport XT with the 2.4 turbo or a 2005 Outback with the old 3.0L flat-6? Let's find out.
Using a well-used but well-maintained 2005 Subaru Outback 3.0R, featuring just under 210,000km on the clock, we ran some tests with a Racelogic Vbox on the usual private road that we use for all performance testing to see what it could manage.
In factory form, this particular model specification consists of a 3.0-litre naturally-aspirated, flat-six engine that produces 180kW at an ear-tickling 6600rpm, and 297Nm at 4200rpm. It comes matched to a five-speed auto and all-wheel drive system. Subaru claimed 0-100km/h in 8.5 seconds back in the day, but with this example's relatively high kilometres, we aren't expecting much of that...
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'Virtual' drag race starts at 8:21
The current XT is faster, more efficient, more practical, safer and better built, so the one you should buy is obvious: an 05 to 09 clean Outback H6 😂
I needed turbo noises so I got the 05 xt haha
@@nickjay5198missing out on the flat 6 sound on redline at 7k rpm.
Absolutely brother 😊
@@BLKBRDD But but but turbo
The wagon died in 2009. The new ones are suv boats. They're nice, just not beautiful.
Would be interesting to compare the new turbo Outback vs an Outback 3.6R Premium (my wife has one). The 3.6 engine is impressive for what it is an it's intended function.
I got a 2017 3.6R and I can say its better in everyway than the 2.4T
@@dmedeiros1974 Yeah but the new Outback is a far better vehicle in general. The 2014-2020 Outback felt like a slightly nicer Camry whereas the new one gets awfully close to an A6 Allroad (I cross shopped both and decided to get 90% of the vehicle for 50% of the price).
I've had 2 x 3.6 Outback's and a 2006 3.0 litre one. The newer 2019 3.6 is slightly heavier but quicker and more economical than my old 2010 3.6 model. If drivers care enough to learn how to use that CVT properly, remembering that it will drive for peak economy if left to use its own little computer brain, they'll see the strength of the cars in that all important overtaking speeds area from 80-130kph. They are excellent long distance tourers, not traffic light grand prix cars.
Stumbled by the channel when the outback video was recommended. Didn't realise you had your own channel now - instant sub
Awesome video, keen to see more!
I have an 07 Outback, manual 2.5 engine. It’s a lot of fun to drive. It will cruise at high speeds like nothing. I am sure the turbo version would be a lot of fun. Very capable vehicles, my first Subaru and I’ve been very impressed, minus some engine issues like excessive oil consumption and not impressed with the service/environment at our local dealership.
Thanks for the insight. Some great heritage in these.
I had a 2004 Forester XS with the 2.5L manual. I bought it at 150k for 2k and sold it at 270k for 2k!
The original owner replaced the engine at 100k w/ paper work. He had catastrophic engine failure but reading through the paperwork I suspect he didn’t do required maintenance. Car ran like a top for me and was a blast.
got a 2008 outback LL bean 3.0R i bought for $1200 3 years ago- got 390kms on it right now and never skipped a beat. Love the car will never get rid of it. Only issue is my radio display sometimes turn on and off when hitting bumps lol. But the music don't stop lol so we still good.
I tried really hard to find a 3.6R in good condition. The dealer near me had gotten a few, but they got sold so quickly. I ended up getting a 2.4l turbo.
yes, I got one of the last in mid 2019 when I knew they were stopping the 3.6 production. Still have it and love the car. On a legal speed open road trip we can often see 7.2l/100k now it's done 65,000 and run in
I just bought an Outback today. A 2008. It's truly an amazing car. I have it in manual. Beautiful to drive.
My answer to your question, is that if you have an old version competing with the new models, that's a good sign across the board for that make of car. For old and new Subaru's.
I had a choice of a 2010 Liberty or a 2008 Outback, and i went with the latter.
My mum and dads 1989 corona station wagon used to do those speeds back in the day. Not when mum and dad were in the car though 😂
Glad I found your channel as I'm a long time follower on your other channel.
Love the content. Do more of these drag races and 1/4mile time.
Where are you based?
Get more old cars and do drags. ❤
Thanks for finding! Apologies for ghosting the other channel. I was planning to do a farewell video as my last, but the current owners wouldn't allow it.
Yes, definitely aiming to do more of these virtual drag races in the future! 😃
Awesome video!! I owned an 05' Outback too (with the 2.5L Auto however), was an excellent car - miss it heaps. Great to see this one in such lovely condition.
haha love it. The FA24 may have gotten the win as expected , but it'll never match the sound of an EZ30 on song :D . That said , with a the 6 speed man behind the EZ, can almost guarantee you would have turned the tables times wise.. the old 5EAT , esp in first gen is a bit doughy. Miss our Gen4 3.0 outback dearly, but thankfully I do still have a spec b 3.0 (man) in the stable
-edit, also big credit to your parents for looking after it so well.. it's mint!.
The flat-6 sounds superb. With a manual, that would be awesome. Yes, you’re right, the 5A in this is a bit laggy and sluggish at times. Hold onto your spec B!
Nice video. Waiting for the 2005 2.5 XT vs the new 2.4T
I have a 3.0 Outback from -07 and love it! The styling is so spot on, drives like a dream, engine is super smooth, so silent on idle you hardly notice it inside the cabin. But when giving it some throttle, it does move. Also a real good car to pull a caravan with!
I still look at nice condition 2006-2008 Outbacks and admire their looks. The extra interior space from 2009/10 onwards is a big plus though for those who need it
Love the comparison many more please.. P.S how about a 2.0 focus vs the new one
I'm sorry but they should have NEVER gotten rid of the boxer 6cyl it was a very good engine.
@@tomtalker2000 agree!
Just loved it............plz do more such content..
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Speed is speed, but I would still get the H6 purely for the exhaust note.
I have from new a ford falcon 2004 3LT 182kw 380nm all in perfect working order will not change for any car
In the 05 sports mode are you manually shifting or just letting it fly on its own?
Just auto mode 👍
i bought a 3.0R liberty sedan as my first car because i wanted a porsche and couldnt afford one lmao
So, basically the BP(2005) turbo model of Legacy/Liberty/Outback would handily beat the current turbo.
Those used to do 0-100 in 5.5 -6.0 seconds. They were pretty quick
no, the new model doesn't need to be any quicker than it is. It is a testimony to Subaru that a 20 year old car is faster than it was when first tested. I found this to be the same with both Outback 3.6s I've had ( 2010 and 2019) and fuel consumption also improves. There is no reason to think this turbo car will not show similar improvements over time. Subaru Outback is a wonderful car
Sweet looking 2005 Outback your parents have there mate
Out of all the expensive cars and ute’s here, it’s still the 04 3.0 outback we keep jumping into for everything: had it from new and will have it till it dies…love it to bits
classic video! love Outbacks old and new but the oldies have a great charm to them
Nice! How do you think the 5th gen 3.6r would fair against the new XT?
5th gen as in CVT ?
Should pit the new XT against the Liberty GT. In the North American market Outback could be optioned with the 2.5t engine, which I think would be more fair.
Thanks for the request. Unfortunately the Liberty is no longer offered in Australia. And we never had the 2.5T as an option :(
Comparr the new Subie with the discontinued 3.6 h6
I love that old Outback/Legacy gen. Sadly every time I look for a good one all the dashboards are cracked.
That's just how they are sadly.. You buy a dashmat and forget about it. Some people have bought new dashpads for them so you can get lucky.
nice
Just on the flat 6 re: boxer, meh never a fan of these engines, the turbo will have more bottom end punch but wont push 7,000rpm like the boxer 6 can.
the other difference is CVT v torque converter. clearly the CVT without needing to upshift has the advantage.
Yep, turbo offers great low end torque. Not to mention the 200kg weight disadvantage yet still quicker 👍
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia - actually I the 200kg extra weight is probably an advantage to the new Outback for a safety concern.
For the last what is now 13 years? I have been used to having BOOST in the midrange, A petrol i4 even with large displacement 2.5L is not the same, don't get me wrong, gearing can sort of make up for that but maths is maths and a turbo petrol making 345Nm from 2,000 to 4,500rpom clearly has more power than a NA petrol which generates peak torque 244Nm at 3,600rpm.
for the record that is
130kW @ 3,60rpm for the 2.0L turbo petrol i4
92kW @ 3,600rm for the NA 2.5L i4.
Difference: 39kW
Back to this video, just how many times are you going to 7,000rpm? Give me bottom/mid range torque any day of the week.
The facelift 3rd gen was the golden age of the outback IMO, it was really just a regular station wagon on stilts whereas the newer ones just feel like SUVs. I didn't expect the new generation to be so much faster though!
3.0r EZ30D ftw;)
p.s 3.0r spec b manuel can do 0-100 in high 6 low 7's on a good day;D
I have that same Outback.. same year... not a bad car when you care for them
I have a 2007 3.0L Outback. Put a complete exhaust system on and had it tuned. Does 0-100 in 7.1 seconds with bigger tires and a little lift 😆. Smoked 2 turbo outbacks so far 👍. Love this car!
Nice!
What exhaust did you run and what tune? Cheers
Crv 2.4l vs 1.5T
Suzuki vitara 2.4l vs 1.4t
Power to Weight Ratio. 2023 outback turbo 105.8 kWt. 2010, 4 Gen, 3.6, 119.4 kWt. 2008, 3 Gen, 3.0, 120 kWt. ????????????
no replacement for displacement ...
lol
a snail makes thing go much faster.
I've seen in USA someone tested the new Outback 2.4T and it did like 5.8 seconds from 0 to 60mph which is around 6.2s from 0 to 100km/h. This was measured with Dragy Performance Meter, almost 0% slope, no rollout, car brand new completely stock.
In your case the car wasn't in launch mode because in that mode it doesn't fake shift and it's faster than with those fake shifts.
Я думаю что новый столько не продержится лет как старый. Внешне старый конечно изящнее,новый просто топор.
I noticed that the older model has the SAME gloomy, depressing, drab, boring, outdated, coffin like interior colors as the new model.
Those interior colors looked great in 1990, but now 34 years later it looks cheap with no class.
People are sick and tired of those Old interior colors, but automakers really don’t give a crap about what their “Valued Customers” want.
Thank goodness our Outback has Ivory interior and our Forester has saddle brown interior colors.
Pointless video