Somalia, Sexism and Me - BBC Africa Eye documentary
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- What’s it like to be a working woman in Somalia in 2022 - trying to do a job in a culture where women traditionally take second place to men in many aspects of life?
For many women in the labour force, it’s a daily fight against prejudice.
Discrimination against women in Somalia is a sensitive subject - after all, this is a highly developed culture which has evolved over many centuries. But, BBC Africa Eye asks, is it now time to start thinking differently?
Can things change?
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My mom died recenty (allahu yarxum). she was the one who was paying my studies in abroad after then, my older sister filled my mom’s position to support me continuing my studies. I believe somali women are stronger than somali men nowadays and they are the spine of our society. Hang in there sister , you’re inspiring a lot of women.
Illaahey janada hageryo aamiin
I totally agree brother
Yes because women have a longer life then men they are not going to the war
The fact is today 95% of somali families cost paid by the men husbans or fathers or Brothers
I think today we don't need to start gender discrimination that may lead us to a Dark Future
Xaqiiqo naagaha ko nool sacuudiga ayaka ilmohooda Biilan nimankani goriga ee jiifaan naagta miskiinta goriyo carbeed ee o diraayan xaa kasii daran cidaha oo gabdhohooda o soo dirsanaayan shaqo💔
May Allah take her to jannah ya rabb
Well said 👏 crazy how the men start to bash women when they are making names for themselves but suddenly when they are struggling, it’s not the men paying bills no more. They are left to fend for themselves
Where's that pfp from looks good
Yeah you re inteligent bro
Join islam after realising the fact
@@mohamedibraahim2331 Mohamed brother this is not how you call people to Islam
My mom passed away in 2000, but my older sister stand to support and raise us. She become my second mom, I cannot image how we could live without her. Supporting women and giving them chance to develop their dreams is important.
Despite the fact that Somali women are more resilient and capable than men, they were the backbone of our society during the civil war. They are the reason we were able to overcome the difficulties we encountered. Despite the fact that they are facing gender violence in various sectors such as job search and educational issues, I just want to encourage them to keep moving forward. I believe you will achieve your life goals by the end sister
Learn your religion well bro
Women are allowed to work but not allowed to be in politics the prophet told us so the diin is not opinion and is a knowledge
I have been studying Islam many years so don't be like westerners
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
@@mohamedibraahim2331 saxib no one gives 2 fucks go practice that bullshit in alshabab territory Somali women could vote before majority of the world the first female African pilots was Somali we never had any laws that goes against our women. Somali women are the back bone of our country they should be made leaders so we can hopefully escape this shithole and build a real society u can take your ideas to Afghanistan
In many countries, women carry water back and forth for miles for their families. Not to mention those who carry goods on their heads. The problem is not carrying heavy weights, it’s the breaking down of societal order.
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What are males doing then??
@@Filip-dg6uk Being lazy and unproductive for the most part
@@Connect_with_Yourself evidence please
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
in our family, our Dad died in 2008, my older sister she studied and fortunately she got a job by the time I finish high school, she make my dream true coz now am doing master degree, for all that achievements I have made she was the one who was paying me everything. with out her I couldn't imagine how my future would be and love her so much.
so, in reality this is only for our old people's believe but not for young generation. thanks
First of all we want ladies to work but the religion of Islam forbids them joining politics
Learn your religion well bro I have been studying this religion of Islam many years so learn the prophet Muhammad sayings ahaadiith
Absolutely brother keep making your sister proud
@@mohamedibraahim2331 women can work for their professions either been businesswomen, driving, be a doctor and so on.
So don't make the religion hard for the people.
Bytheway, Even me i have been studying the religion since i became mature upto right now.
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
All the girls who’s striving for the life themselves or for such family reasons are the strongest ones I swear and they deserve the better and equality as the men given as a granted.
A resilient Somali woman. Passionate in making difference, wish you very best Maryama, you are so ambitious ma sœur
Feminist 🙄
I wish her all the best she is such a good example of being resilient.
"Their bodies are created to be enjoyed, not to work" The nerve 🙄
Nah. Wrong translation. Its for the men to do hard job. women should stay or rest & relax either home fathers home before marriage or her home after marriage. Tha’s what it mean.
I speak somali and that was crappy translation, not even close to what the dude said.
@@Ilkacasse Stop lying, just because foreigners are seeing somali mens true colors doesn't mean its not true
That's somali men for you, Imagine what somali women have to put up with.
@@sihaam I know afsomali also I live In Mogadisho same like the actors of this vidoe .
Old generation are most un-educated but our new generation are so different so don't generalise all men
Wow sister keep going be strong. Remember that it took over 75 years for things to slowly start changing for women in America. Your culture is even older and so it will take time. Be the best you can be and God will keep blessing you. Do not forget in ancient times there were over 200 women Pharaohs. Stay strong and trust your judgement. What was in the beginning shall be so in the end. The creator made no mistakes when he made women.
Mother's teach your sons to respect women it start from in the home
Lots of women don't even respect women. They have internalized misogyny and hate themselves. That's why they don't teach their sons to respect women.
What I noticed, which is a sign of changing times I hope, is that the Somali women are able to express their opinions and having a discourse with the men. That's how she is changing minds starting with her colleagues. All the Somali women I know have a silver tongue, able to dish it out just as hard, fierce way of voicing themselves and a strong presence. It's how they learned to fight to be taken seriously.
There are places where women can't even speak let alone go outside alone
Women should not travel alone that’s Islam as for going outside you’re lying stop it
@@Sweeti924 ok troll, back to bed
@@johnnyjoestar7143 cry baby
@@johnnyjoestar7143 btw who the hell are you Muslim, Christian, Jew, agnostic, we Muslim we love our religion and we will die for it nothing compares to Islam
Their bodies are designed to be enjoyed. " That hit me" A woman can do what a man can do we should never be limited to societal, cultural norms and pressures. I love what she is doing and may she continue being the strong, independent and talented role model is she being to Somali women.
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
That was mistranslation, he never said that
@@rodaabdullahi9118 he did say that, stop lying he clearly said Women’s bodies are for enjoyment
@Kill Anything Fruity oh shut up and stop lying bbc didn’t mistranslate anything, I’m a Somali native speaker and everything they translated was accurate. The man presenting the story is a Somali himself , what are you going to say about that? Is he lying about his fellow Somali men and misrepresenting them? 😹😹 he’s clearly not misrepresenting anything and he’s telling the truth
What the guy is saying is nonsense, but he didn't say that. He said a women body is made for relaxation (basically saying that they should be enjoying life) and not doing hard work.
An Educated sister is an empowered sister.
This mentality is mostly common among old Somali generation because they grew up in civil war and they are not mostly educated,me personally I hope it will get better in the next generations’ my sisters are mostly girls and I will not wish for them and other women to get discriminated but we most also bring the change for women in Somali communities
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
@@houdini5538 Exactly! Western media is nothing but a propaganda outlet. We’ve seen for a very long time how they always portray every group who isn’t white or christian negatively in their propaganda state run western media’s. They are the biggest hypocrites and deceitful liars I’ve ever come across.
Maryam is a strong hardworking woman. the country needs more of her
Wow, this is a different Somalia than the one I grow up in 80's before the civil war. We didn't have restrictions and females where free as a bird to follow their dreams and to choose all professions without prejudice & harassment. It's sad to see this young lady fighting for her rights after 30 years of civil war, no education, backwardness and misogyny.
let's be fair here if u getting u salary at u doorstep without having to work why u need to work?
@@achass9531 because some people have passion and want to follow them, if you can’t let people follow their passion ,you will never Truly live ,also btw that’s how you grow an economy ,letting women to study and work will improve the economy of the country.
@@omzy8700 god knows what's best for us he wants men to be the bread winner of the family growing economy is important but obedience to god is more important
@@achass9531 yes but God didn’t say that women cannot work ,she is not doing anything haram in here ,a country cannot move in the right direction if only men work , many women will not be happy in life .
@@achass9531 Well, Khadijah the first wife of the Prophet PBUH was working and wealthy. Unless you're trying to say they were both disobedient to Allah. What's your point exactly???
Us Somali men respect and cherish our woman at all cost 🇸🇴
Not really
@Kill Anything Fruity i lived around Somali men all my life and most of them treat women horribly
@Kill Anything Fruity no the bad overweight the good when it comes to somali men, most Somali women are disrespected and mistreated by somali men. It’s a fact
@@eastafricandoll9308 we love our women. Wallahi I defend them every time.
@@eastafricandoll9308 Girl these men are PATHETIC
That is hypocrisy in the highest order.there is no career for a specific gender. Both males and females are equal in the eyes of Allah so who are we to dictate what they need to do.proud of all girls breaking boundaries and doing careers that men dominated.
@UCG4mdd-LmmC4Lrpe7DD_wlQ but Let me ask u when she was born was she born with her husband? When she was in school or university studying was this husband of hers with her ? The answer is No, what was the need of all those studying years if she can’t do the career she wants.who will provide these kids of hers if not her keeping in mind how we have many irresponsible Somalia fathers.
They have alot compare to Arab countries 😭
They're alot of somali irresponsible mother
It was narrated from Usaamah ibn Zayd (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am not leaving behind me any fitnah more harmful to men than women.”
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said best place for women is their homes and also haram to speak men not related to you unless is something really important like doctor appointment.
@@trinitykiller1844 subhanaAllah how sad is it for people to take Hadith that they don’t understand it’s deeper meaning.it is true the prophet said the place of women is there homes but within which context.Aisha (RA) was one of the best scholars that the Muslim world has gotten and used to teach many male swabahs of the prophet. Sumaya (RA) was the Muslim matryer and the nurse of the prophet (SAW) during the uhud battle was a female So which religion are u talking about that doesn’t allow women to build careers and become educated. We have people like u who don’t know anything about the religion who just google little thing to argue learn ur religion first stop misleading people.
I'm proud of these women. And I see the beginning of a good change. These men with there aragont and ignorant comments have no idea how foolish they actually sound. And those exact views are what keeps the entire society poor and oppressed.
That's not true, cuz Saudi would be poor if traditional lifestyle breeds poverty.
@@blueflag6152 oil only oil dump
@@notme9187 Why are you hating on people to benefit from their natural recourses?
@@blueflag6152 I'm not referring to traditions. I'm referring to the masoganistic comments. I'm all for traditions. And ethical diversity. But men that think a women belongs under them like servant. That's what I'm referring to
@@Imawhiteboard I'm Somali and I can tell ya, we all not think liked that these are some uncivilised men!
Congratulations, my sister stay strong and educate those narrow-minded people who come on your way to be abstract 👏👏👏👏👏
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 hahahahha capitalism tricked them. Forget them you can’t rescue them now. But I like how you even have the heart to say something to them. The best you can tell them is to “READ”. You are very well read my friend. Peace.
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A Somali woman works as masseuse
When she did become your sister?
Things are changing for the better since the young generation completely have different mindset compared to the older generation. Women deserve respect and they can pursue any career they like.
No they don't , have you not been in Somalia?
@@codewebsduh2667 I was born in somalia and i know what i am talking about.
@@codewebsduh2667 younger generation are more open-minded
@@Appytontech Warya, it doesn't matter if you were born there. I've lived there for a year and talked to the people.
It's not changing.
@@codewebsduh2667 So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
Wow, I feel so privileged to have studied digital film production in Europe. I have so much respect for this woman to stand up for women's rights in a country where they are pretty much non existent.
U maybe privileged in europe, But she is gona be harassed in europe for wearing hijab
A Somali woman is more privileged in Somaia, than a western woman is in the west. Their husbands work and provide for them, and when Somalia gets better their quality of life gets better. Once Somalia has better infrastructure, more jobs, and higher income, the Somali woman will be way happier than a western woman. So the real problem is poverty, once we tackle that it'll be the happiest place on planet earth.
@@blueflag6152 Personally as a biological woman I have never wanted to be provided for by anyone and want to be independent and self sufficient, so that I would be able to pay for my taxes, feed myself, treat myself and not have to rely on anyone economically. As that can be a serious factor, as to why allot of women in the past were trapped having to rely on men. An abuse of power in their own homes, since they were not able to live for themselves, if they wanted to and leave an abusive relationship for example they could not or feel trapped because they have had to rely on someone else to provide money. Due to their terrible living standard in a lack of income and freedom of choice. In a capitalist society, money = power.
@@blueflag6152 Also as a biological woman who identifies as non-binary and Bisexual, living in a country that does not seem to acnoledge that lgbtq+ people exist. Would also be an awful infringement upon my human rights, to not be able to love and partner with whomever consenting adult I choose. Yet another reason why I do not see this description of a somali woman's "privilege" to be that she has to be provided for by a male "husband". Your comment is entirely screwed up and misguided. I need you to think about that statement a bit more deeply, perhaps from the perspective of women everywhere.
@@Harvyydent Yes some people do not agree with women wearing a hijab, in non muslim countries. Some people are just hateful racist idiots and call people who wear hijab terrorists. But these types of westerners are stupid and there are stupid people everywhere. Me personally I do not agree with, all but one interpretation of the muslim idea of a hijab, it was something that mabye protected women years and years ago. But now days they serve as a divide between the sexes and mostly force women to cover up more rather than to feel free in their own bodies, because the more you force one sex to cover up, the more taboo their bodies become. Thats never a good thing, but I also would never discriminate against a hijab wearer and I am for freedom of expression when it comes to clothing, except Nazi propaganda shirts, tattoo's ect. Personally I know and am befriended with multiple hijab wearer's here in Germany and the discrimination they face, is mostly from idiots and bigots who cannot even give you a good enough argument as to why they should not. They will not be discriminated against by anyone sensible, but also unfortunately like anywhere else that depends on the country. For example France is bad in this instance as they have politically tried to ban headscarves in public locations. Absolutely awful stuff and completely unfair.
she's a charismatic woman not entertaining any bs
Keep going our Somali women. More power and rizq to you.👍🏾
You so dump that you can’t see!
Somali people criticize everyone. I told people I wanted to become a male nurse, you should've heard the vile shit that came out of their mouth lol if somali wmn want gender roles to end, BE CAREFUL what you wish for and don't be a hypocrite either because you can't want gender roles for men, while you get to do whatever you want. Hypocrisy is not good.
Feminist is trying to knock on the door and I just hope my intelligent somalian people don’t open that door and not let it inter and bbc should be banned in Somalia since they are very bias and keep pushing western influence and ideology on our people. Making us looks like we’re the bad guys. The west is good at this game. The game of “FRAMING” anything they want to look like anything they desire. Mixing Truth and lies and bringing division amongs people already divided amongs tribalism and now nationalism is taking hold but it’s just beginning. It’s just a repeat of the old divide and conquer games we know this and we are familiar with this from the British and Italians but have we learned our history ? The time of mischief is upon us. Let’s us seek allahs shelter.
There's a diffrence between critism and HARASSMENT. Somali people need to change ASAP because this behaviour is primitive
Maybe Somali men judgemental behavior is Tiring but We always Support Somali women and Girls ✊ Salute
This woman is right. Human rights are a great thing for the evolution of humans!
We need a human rights video bbc africa based in mogadishu somalia and all of somalia!
Maryama has all the right to do camera work ,she is no violating any law of Islam ,for people to talk of religion regarding her work is lack of knowledge ,go a head with the good job sister ,
Somali women are resilient and forward thinking mashallah! May Allah protect her inshallah
As a somali boy i know most of somali women are more genies and so active doing business, politics, and other jobs and are educators than other african womens
This is how a lot of men across Africa think😂 I was raised into believing you do everything for women which is true to a certain degree but women should be able to do what they want e.g job and have dreams they want to achieve not just be a mother
you know that the mindset of “women should be in the kitchen etc” came from the colonization from the Europeans, because let me tell you before the colonization. women were just as equal as men, sexism, misogyny etc didn’t exist in africa. feminism was rare in africa too because africa has always been equal. there were no such a thing as “men are superior” in africa. all that came from the white people and how they treat their women. i just wish africans could stop being fooled by the mindset of the white men.
@@dayasarea8672 cap women in tradition islam were always at home and never seen outside after sundown … it was only skabools who were seen out during those times so please do your research before writing nonsense
@@abukarali4 say wallahi, are you dumb Allah has not said that and it doesn’t say that in Quran either. It’s not islamic culture, islam was the first religion to give women rights. You here lying and spreading false information on a religion you must be sick. You probably don’t even read the Quran or do religious studies on Islam.
@@abukarali4 in islam actually the man is in the kitchen. because women take care of the children more than the man, that’s why in Islam mother comes always before the father.
@@abukarali4 men like you are the reason why the world is bad. you really think God gave you animals the job
I am so happy to see us the young generation start breaking these deep rooted bondages that have held women and the Africa continent back from flourishing. Culture must evolve as time evolves 👏🏾👏🏾
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 This is your opinion! Atleast allow the other group of women who want to do things outside of being a housewife, the opportunity to do so. How do you know it's going to overburdened then if they choose to do both??!!
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western people making us look sexist people while our woman was heroes fighting the white man.
we know our history, we are not brainwashed like other Africans.
BBC and trying to destroy the culture of Somalia never gonna happen and we are not sexist, our woman do all kind of jobs and have doing even leadership. and we have 100% Muslim for almost 1500 years, so keep trying to mess the mind with ignorent people and brainwashed people
I feel very sorry that she making our girl like oppressed while they doing every kind of job and she making our girl can be given freedom by white man.
because she is taking some money from NGO.
very shameful and very disrespectful to our girls
@@pinklove8422 and this is your opinion we follow Islam and Anyone who goes against Islam is a disbeliever
We must fight against all form of discrimination rooted in cultures, traditions and religions. Women deserve equal opportunity as men. Yes to gender equality
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This new form of discrimination against Somali women mostly comes from Wahhabi Islam funded by Saudi Arabia.
Yea I’m pretty sure the western women who are the most depressed and over medicated women are happy overall in the West huh? Get real my friend. Women shouldn’t be overwhelmed and overburdened with being a housewife and also taking up on other jobs. We can see the western hypocrisy and delusional mindset from here. NO THANKS!
@Shimmy Shai Thanks for the reply but here’s a couple of things you missed. For one, both men and women who are suffering from mental health issues are usually the ones who became disconnected with their manhood or womanhood. Their lifestyles are being reversed through socially, economically, politically, environmentally, etc and the impact can be measured how unhappy they’re becoming which they resort to all kind of vices such as drugs (legally or illegally), alcohol, escapism, etc.
Some of the richest and wealthiest zip codes have one of the highest suicide rates. The correlation is there but some people are blind to it. Now, I do agree that women or anybody else should not face any type of violence whatsoever, but this isn’t the case with respect to occupation. In our culture women, children, the elderly, and the disable are considered a protected class and they should have their basic needs met. It’s the men who take on most of the burden in resolving the issues of the society since they are always the ones in front lines to defend and provide them.
As far as the western “women rights” is concern. It’s absolutely one of the most delusional and asinine talking points I’ve ever heard. So you mean to tell me that we tell women “hey you’re free to do whatever you want” which includes becoming strippers, prostitutes, and sexual objects in the workplace just so they can be replaced by a younger hotter looking one as soon as they pass their youth.
Social media is an indication of how men in the West view their own western women. Soon as she takes off her clothes is the moment she gets attention, likes, and money. The result is witnessing the biggest “independent” women being the most depressed and over medicated women in modern society.
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
It is not discrimination it is our culture you cannot change our culture and our religion jamal is lier and he is working organisations that wanna to fight our religion and our culture we wakeup and we understand you very well
In the midst of chauvinistic society, Resilience is what keeps Maryama going. All the best. Soar the greater heights and God will reward you.
Discrimination against women is much less in Somalia compared to many countries. We love our girls and protect them.
Maryama is a trailblazer, since the beginning of time there have been strong woman taking care of the people, changing laws, also giving positive guidance on living life. It is important now more than ever that us as melanated men listening to our women, protect our women. We need to support these women in all aspects of life. It was God that bless man with the woman. Alhamdulillah.
Those men who are criticizing you are narrow minded people don't listen to them keep pushing my sister ❤️❤️
The translation at 1:48 is wrong!! He said women should be at home and relax, they shouldn’t carry heavy stuff in the hot weather!! Also, the guy in the clothing store at 1:13 is joking with her, this is how we Somali people humor ourselves, men and women young and old but they’re making it look like he’s being serious! This whole report is misguiding 👎 👎
Bulllshit..Sexist jokes are not jokes
@@khalid2733d***head
@@priscaooko4626 For the westerns, sexist jokes are no jokes but for us Somalis, sexist jokes and jokes about other sensitive jokes are nothing but just jokes to us. We don’t take everything seriously like you do in the west! Men and women joke with each other.
The reality is, Somali women are much more mentally and physically (in terms of getting job done and not getting tired) stronger than most Somali men I have come across.
NO LAW AGAINST SEXUAL HARRASEMENT..!!! WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY IS THIS
Why do you need a law when you have clan protection? You do something to a woman or child, you have to deal with their clan and your own clan will give you over to be punished. Nobody dares to mess with Somali women in Somalia openly trust me.
A lawless and corrupt country that has no respect for women.
@@blueflag6152 What a delusional perception of reality. Clan mentality belongs in the stone ages. If you want to know how women live in Somalia, ask women of all ages and of all social economoc statuses how life is. Life is hard for women in Somalia. The light freedom you take, is not acceptable for most women. Can your sister become a taxi driver? Can your sister become a mayor? Can she walk freely in the night ? If no is the answer, then Somalia is not that free for women. But this is the case for most countries in the world. Every society has some anti-female mentality.
@@jamiefooddreamer6381If every country has anti female mentality aren't you then basically saying it's natural for humans to be misogynistic? To me that makes no sense, so how about you ask women what they want rather than speaking for them, how many women want actually be a mayor? What you're doing is you are equating poverty stricken societies with being hostile to female, when in reality those regions are hostile to everyone equally, and men have it just as hard. The reason why people like focus on just the women is because you view women as external entities that are not actually part of a society.
@@jamiefooddreamer6381 You said it's a lawless and corrupt country that has no respect for women. What about the men though, does it have respect for the men? Like I said you're treating women as external entities within a society that demand a certain lifestyle, and have no control in society. So in essence you're saying that women can't take any credit for it if a country is doing well, they're always the passengers, and I find this deeply disrespectful to women. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for exempting women of all responsibility, and thereby excluding them from claiming any credit for a country's prosperity or heading on a road to prosperity.
So glad to see positive news from this country! so interesting and ispiring!
What is interesting is before the civil war women did work in everything from doctors to being soldiers , radicalism imported during the civil war changed things
@@theancientsancients1769
but now it is better than before
@@dailycontent3955 No, It's not.
@@cr7thegod660why?
This is very positive, because of her many other Women and girls in Somalia will get confidence and join her trade. Even in other countries women had to fight for the rights they are enjoying today and have the pioneers like Maryama to thank. E.g Women voting in the USA, Women driving in Saudi..e.t.c.
It's really sad to see other countries so behind and clouded by ignorance... This is why they don't progress i hope more woman like her grow and become more fearless and inspires young girls
Remind me what Subsaharan African country you're from that is doing so well?
@@blueflag6152 lol I’m from Southern Africa, Botswana women here have the freedom to do whatever they want
@@odd7646 South Africa is the rape capital of Africa, has a AIDS epidemic and has vast amounts of extreme poverty.
@@blueflag6152 I said i come from Botswana it's a country...Better than most African countries.... I'm failing to see your point what does AIDS have to do with this, you speak of rape as if those men who talk about how a woman's body was designed to be enjoyed and not for work as if they're better than the rapists themselves... this video is about equality for woman in Somalia and generally african countries that are held back by it's toxic masculinity ideals... South Africa might be a country with it's flaws but it surely has progressed in this particular area where you have women who own Film and Production companies like Connie Ferguson for instance and others... fyi she's also from botswana bt resides in SA... Are you triggered by seeing woman become a spark for their own independence?
We don't allow our women to carry heavy loads. A man is responsible to provide food
The Somali translation is so watered down it’s unreal
The whole video should be thrown is the dumpster at this point. BBC is just abusing us.
While some people may take this attitude for hostility it’s in fact quite the opposite. The reason a lot of these men oppose this lady from going around filming in a stateless country is quite obvious, this isn’t LA, Mogadishu is currently unsafe for even men if they are carrying around a big camera.
Also a lot of the men were telling her to get a job that requires less physical labor like and office job, so their issue isn’t about a woman working but about the physical difficulty of the work and her safety. She was even told to have someone carry it for her, now you might say that “she has a right to carry it anyways” but you have to see that they are actually just telling her to live more comfortably and not burden herself.
In another instance a man tells her that women’s bodies are meant for resting and enjoying herself but the translation twists it to imply a sexual meaning which is not true.
All in all, this determined girl should be able to film if she likes it but the circumstances in Somalia are difficult for everyone and it really doesn’t help when a huge news organization like the BBC twist the information to fit their narrative and portray a false image of the country.
BBC is garbage. They have a narrative. All western news media are state sponsored because they are all pedaling western values democracy, human rights and freedom of speech, capitalism. So therefore anyone as insignificant person at this sister who has their values (feminist) will get a platform and all who oppose, object or even suggest their world view of life is worth looking at or even adopting is all brushed with the same brush. Extremest, Islamist, terrorist. Communist, socialist, anti American, 3rd world, dictators, antisemitism, anti west hahaha the list goes on. Anyone not following their world view is an enemy and anyone they say is an enemy, you better treat them us your enemy or else that’s their logic. Hence why I laugh when I think of leaders like Fadel Castro. He is someone who is known in the world stage as someone Who played his geopolitical cards rights.🦁
Here in somalia we live our way.. and the western and BBC they live on their way. Don't force us to live your way. By the way somali business women are more than men. And they are free.
@@somali.liibaan6059 true
I am very sorry to hear it that you saying Mogadishu is not LA and you think that LA more safer r then streets in Mogadishu you are totally wrong , i think Mogadishu is more safer then LA come your self and find out do not depend only the media black mailing you about Somalia or it is Capital Mogadishu i have been my self the streets of Mogadishu and i have filmed day and night and i am telling you Mogadishu is much safer then LA.
And the other Somalia is not a state less country as you think Somalia has a elected government .
@@anigaiyada7173 walaal, let’s not blind ourselves, Somalia is still a long way from having a proper government. The current government doesn’t control the whole country and it still can’t fully control and guarantee the safety of even Mogadishu, that’s what I mean by stateless. If the government cannot guarantee the safety of the whole country and make independent decisions without interference from foreigners like the US, Kenya, Ethiopia and Emirates and also there are foreign forces in the country like Amisom and US, then it’s still stateless. Somalia had a real powerful government back in the 1980s and 1970s but not today, hopefully in the future if Somali people unite and work together. While Somalis are divided then the enemies will always try to take advantage and keep the country like today.
When I talk about LA I mean for filming with a big camera, in Somalia filming isn’t as common so it is of-course less safe and it would attract negative attention but otherwise it’s not that dangerous most of the time.
I already went to Somalia back in 2011 to Hargeisa, and it was very nice, and I will come again inshallah.
As usual mazing story, THANK YOU BBC Africa 🥰🥰🥰
Very inspiring to see her push through all these barriers
barriers!!!! i live in norway, a country were strongest manpower is being a feminin if you call that a barrier you should come here and see the other side of the wall☺
1:49 wrong translation, he said "their bodies are designed for enjoyment and not for work", he didn't say "their bodies are designed to be enjoyed". Terrible of BBC to make this error, you can even see it in the context he said it in.
He said 'raaxaa loo sameeyey!' the translation is correct plus the guy who made the report is Somali Reporter Jamal Osman. Listen again.
no difference
to say that awoman is just there for sex is the most degrading thing someone can say
@@daughterofisrael671 I definatly agree with your statement
@@daughterofisrael671 daughter of Israel 🇮🇱 . Free Palestine 🇵🇸
We need more like Mariama, Allah created all men and women equal.
👍👍👏👏👏🤘🤘🤘
I love my other somali womens who are making difference. The time has passed where we let somali men oppress us in the name of religion. Islam has impowered us more than anything but Somalis be going around saying that their culture is their religion(Islam) but if u look at it they have manipulated the religion to get wht they want.
Somali women are free thy are not like women in asia or arab countries were women are oppressed
@@jaallebulsho3367 thanks bro some people don't know how extreme other countries are towards their women.
@@Abdi-libaax What. Dude. Did you watch the video?
@@sihaam yes I did why
in fact, the Somali women is the strongest women in the world, have capabilities to do every thing, whilst happened civil-war the Somali women survives Somali country, still are working hard , selling milks, Qat, and vegetables how to survive their families.
Women shouldn't carry stuff?!? Only if it is a baby right? Though that tripod and camera weigh far less than most children.
I didn't see it this way. damnn
In many countries, women carry water back and forth for miles for their families. Not to mention those who carry goods on there heads.
If I was his wife anytime he asked him to do some chore I would be like “But I am just meant to be enjoyed” lol
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
@@houdini5538 Stop doing drugs 💀
Guulayso abaayo! Go forward sis and kill them with success!!!! What God wants for you is yours, regardless of who stands in your way!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
What west African country you from Nigeria Congo which Bantu hmm 🤔🤔
@@daviroza4700 if you think I am one of those somalis who get offended at such questions, I'm not. Also, your previous comments about the continent of Africa are very telling of your stance. 👀
Well said! Allaha sharfo gabdhaheena. 💪🏽
in as much as i love Jamal's documentary but most of them are pessimistic stories for instance in this case of Somalia there are many activities women perform and men stand by their shoulders despite not having good governance which needs to be documented to boast the morale and hope of the people.
Do you think Western countries don't have problems but what we see in their media's are positive sides to cover their negatives.
Media is not all about negativity..
somalia looks better than afghanistan
"Their bodies are created to be enjoyed". Sad
That is the Wahhabi mentality that pushed us to Somalia 11 years ago. May God bless Kenya and all the Somali women fighting extremism and chauvinism.
Wrong translation buddy, he said they are not made for physical labour they are designed to enjoy themselves.
Poor translation
thats normal sexism, a wahabi wouldn't say something so vulgar
edit: seems like its wrong translation
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
Its false translation you jareer danyeer
Women are our backbone. we should respect our women.
This is one of many reasons why I am proud to be born in America! If I were to be raised in Somalia, there is an inconceivably high possibility I would be spewing an equal amount of arrogance in to the world.
magac somaliga noo daa hadaad wadanka caynayso duli
Except you wouldn't be raised in Somalia, what kind of name is "Doumbuoya"? mention your own African country as an example.
@@blueflag6152 he’s a Kenyan pretending to be Somali 🤣🤣🤣 @Mohamed Doumbouya woi pole sana i know you’d love to be a Somali 🥺
@@hunnybun2855 he is an Ethiopian. lol
@@TheMadFarah worse lol
Wow the mindset of the men there ..smdh
Very interesting and educative documentary. It's too short
Somalia women are so beautiful.Greetings from Kenya
So unfair. She should never despair and set example for other girls who want to find their freedom in such a country full of discrimination against women
I got that correct. The mayor of Mogadishu is a former warlord. Such a great country Somalia
The mayor is also a war criminal that massacred thousands of innocent people in Mogadishu.
i hope you know as a kenya, majority of your presidents could classfied as warlords they have committed many massacres
Like former US presidents Bush, Obama,Trump
Held your head up sister and stay strong
In Jamaica men are very respectful to women unless proke ,but there is still domestic violence
Maryama, Believe me you doing a great job, be ambitious gril and ignore the negative comments.
Remember in our country women carry water on the back and walk a miles this is a jealous as Nurto Said and misogyny.
Go forward.
Great and brave girl stay safe
Nin iyo naag waa isku xuquuq. Qarnigee kunoolyihin xolahani.
sax
Waa sidaa! Allaha sharfo dumarkeena!
My dad passed away while i was 4 or 6 i guess then my dear become dad and mom she is my hero she did everything for me
U are beautiful, u are strong, keep doing what u love, if they want u to stop doing what u do tell them to pay ur bills and take care of ur daily needs.. God bless u..😘😘
i support you mariama, woman can possibly do anything they want, let's change the narrative, your brother from south sudan support you keep pushing and everything can change be the light in the society.
You know a country is developed when women walk down the streets, work and are seen in every corner of society. What I felt when I went back to Somalia, is that women are hidden. They stay home and has no social position in society. I felt sick by this in many ways.
Saudi arabia isnt developed?
@@yotobe3571 What does that country hava to do with Somalia???
I swear the region in Somali matters, the nomadic areas most of business is run by women and the men set around or watch the animals, and it got worse after the war arab mentality started is not our culture and is not in Islam to stop a woman from education but it’s a Middle East culture where girls was looked down on before Islam
Do these brothers really follow sunnah in read the Quran Muslim woman are a big part of it helping and doin the most aisha and the prophet come on woman are to be respected and can do anything put mind two we both bllessed with two arms legs eyes in a brain Alhamdidilah
How women are allowed to carry heavy loads 🤣😹. They want to load lorries
Maryama keep going in your way, the west will never understand how our people are suffering mentally, physically and economically.
These men are just jealous she's a cool camera woman. They are unhappy with their jobs. Horrible hurtful jealous men hurling abuse at her when they see her with her expensive gear.
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
It's amazing how threatened these men ate. Sad
I love that she replies back asapppp
Wow. The guy said 'their bodies are created to be enjoyed, not for work'... smh. Wrong on so many levels.
translation is completely wrong, he said their body isn't made for hard labour (xamali) they were made to relax not work
STAY STRONG BEAUTIFUL SISTER.
Maryama has got strong mentality. Wish her for the best and dont listen to bullies
OMG am apritiate Maryama because she is study very large vision for our world men she is not limited by natural action am belive for next time am see success she's vission I Willl Wish every Things Okey Keep It Up
What man can do ,awoman can do 👸
Mariam, u r doing brilliant and exceptional work. keep ur head up and never listen the negativity
Wow, the story of this lady has made BBC show beautiful scenes from Somali instead of their usual,bombed buildings, dilapidated areas and wreckage, truly a Blessing in disguise. Also.....
In my opinion, if you want such things to change, i.e like the challenge of being a camerawoman in Somali, marry out of your tribe where sucha is acceptable...
Sometimes it is hard to solve a problem by the same level of mindset that created it
She amazing
the possitive thing is that the all man want girls be office or home so they get what they want with their husbnds or fathers but doing the hard things is not the option .
so sad men think like that.. wonder if the young generation have the same mind set
Same. It's normalized.
You are doing great job Maryama. Keep moving forward Insha’Allah.
She pushing 🅿️
@Justin Y. keep it real
SJWs from western countries should come and try to help women from countries like Somalia. Yet, I haven't seen any of them who would sacrifice the comfort of their home to help these women.
@Guuleed I agree with you, and I don't try to discredit women like Maryama. I pointed to western SJWs because they like to complain about things that are already "perfect" when compared to things that happened in third-world countries. They complain about little things and acted like "patriarchy is stepping on us" while women from less developed countries are facing actual discrimination. Instead of complaining self-righteously on social media, they should practice what they preach and actually come to countries like Somalia and do some real work. That's my point.
So many things wrong with this report, it's riddled with mistranslation and one point of view.
Firstly it's wildly known that journalism is a dangerous sector to work in Somalia for both men and women and those against women working as a journalist/camerawomen which also include women are coming from a place of a concern for their wellbeing rather than being against it from a negative stance.
Secondly translation is wrong, the man says that regarding the religion women shouldn't have to toll and work in what he see's as dangerous work and should enjoy themselves at home and have a man provide for her. He didn't say women were "meant to be enjoyed" as the translation ridiculously put.
And most women working in journalism even in the west are largely reporters whereas the large majority of camera operators in the west are men just like in Somalia and elsewhere, carrying heavy expensive cameras and having to travel up and down.
This report like many others of Jamal Osmans (guy narrating) are full of misinformation, wrong translation and bias. Jamal Osman like many other western reporters never fail to picture Somalia and Africa in a negative light for a quick buck.
FAKE NEWS SOMALI WOMEN'S WERE ALWAYS FIGHTERS AND HEROS THIS WOMAN IS FEMINIST ‼️ THATS THE PROBLEM LOOK 🇸🇴'S HISTORY.
Dear somalia “I love you “ 😂😂😂
Don't listen aidsthobe who attack you
@Justin Y. r u talking about France or Europe ?
MashaAllah she is fearless Lioness 😍❤️., They government should Empower Women because they are the only ones who have the capacity to transform our community in general., keep going forward my sister am sure u will empower our other girls in everyway and also the future generation❤️
It's so sad that those men are so ignorant. I feel bad for them
Is you the real ignorant your talking about
North America has so much professional Smolian bro who is lawyer,doctors business men .watching this young woman having a profession trying to support herself is refreshing than bombing an who's religiously correct
I'm with maryam, you can do it💪💪
Incredibly disgusting and deeply disturbing to hear those men hurling those insults as her, especially the one that said "women's bodies are designed to be enjoyed," 🤦🏾♀️
No, he said women should enjoy by not doing heavy work! BBC liked the other translation as they know their audience!