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  • čas přidán 15. 03. 2018
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Komentáře • 126

  • @freespeechforall1069
    @freespeechforall1069 Před 6 lety +41

    Thanks for this history lesson, sometimes we forget that our faith makes us so much stronger together.

    • @kieran296
      @kieran296 Před 6 lety +5

      We have to Remember as Christians, The Quran is obsessed of our religion. We are in there book every other page, Muslims dislike our religion and our Traditon. We need to be aware of people who dislike us.
      Luke 6:27-36
      27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
      “We who formerly hated and murdered one another now live together and share the same table. We pray for our enemies and try to win those who hate us.”
      ~ Justin the Martyr (100AD - 165AD)

    • @DEUS_VULT_CROATIA
      @DEUS_VULT_CROATIA Před 2 lety

      @@kieran296 God bless you, hope you are doing well 3 years after you commented.
      Peace of Christ to all of you people out there.

  • @unmaskingfools8152
    @unmaskingfools8152 Před 6 lety +27

    We eastern european know very well the danger of Islam. We have fighted Islam for 500 years and faced death and prosecution under Otoman rule. And Skenderbeg (meaning alexander the great) was great leader. For 26 years he destroyed Otoman empire with 15000 soldiers against over 100000 Otoman soldiers. He is one of the people that stopped Otoman from expanding further in europe

    • @westernriteorthodox8719
      @westernriteorthodox8719 Před 6 lety +3

      This why I like to listen to the Byzantine Empire Music when they fought ottoman empire, They hymn and chant about it.

    • @westernriteorthodox8719
      @westernriteorthodox8719 Před 6 lety +5

      Thankfully our Eastern Europe Christians stopped them,

    • @kieran296
      @kieran296 Před 6 lety +4

      We have to Remember as Christians, The Quran is obsessed of our religion. We are in there book every other page, Muslims dislike our religion and our Traditon. We need to be aware of people who dislike us.
      Luke 6:27-36
      27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
      “We who formerly hated and murdered one another now live together and share the same table. We pray for our enemies and try to win those who hate us.”
      ~ Justin the Martyr (100AD - 165AD)

    • @unmaskingfools8152
      @unmaskingfools8152 Před 6 lety +4

      We should love Muslims are they are victims of Islam but we should not be foolish and should defend our faith

    • @kieran296
      @kieran296 Před 6 lety

      I agree

  • @walkerscott77
    @walkerscott77 Před 6 lety +17

    I love Brother Bob😂, Is he wanting a Uproar? A Crusade? Lool. I love his Christian Passion. Or he generally wants to see British in its Christian way of living again, like we all do.

  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan3708 Před 5 lety +4

    God bless SOCO films, DCCI ministries. And God bless Bob the man of God✝️🙏

  • @GinaToySculptor
    @GinaToySculptor Před 6 lety +5

    Very enlightening! The lesson is crucial. We must remember our history as a Christian people - for without it, there is no identity for the individual or his Christian nation to stand upon.

  • @michaelb8610
    @michaelb8610 Před 6 lety +2

    You are a champion Bob speaking words of wisdom. Keep up the good work. God bless you

  • @as680783
    @as680783 Před 6 lety +2

    I can see both sides of this argument but I do lean more toward Bob. The fact is ethnonationalism does look after itself, and to hell with the suffering of their brothers and sisters in faith. However, for Christianity to have its much needed firm roots we do need to protect our National identity and cultural values. We're too far away from Bob's ideals at the moment and too far away from each other as Christian individuals to have any meaningful impact on society.
    Christian values starting in schools and lessons combined with cultural and religious activism on street level will for me bring the swiftest rewards. Politics and religion working in tandem. Islam seems to have had a lot of success with that formula. A fabulous discussion as always Bob.
    GREAT VIDEO JC & SOCO!!!

  • @unmaskingfools8152
    @unmaskingfools8152 Před 6 lety +4

    Great discussion by two people that know the history

    • @Itsmrajhful
      @Itsmrajhful Před 6 lety

      nop sry. this was not a constructive dialogue just one guy trying to impose his perspective on the other guy which in turn deals in absolutes. 1/10 would avoid

  • @elainesmith2273
    @elainesmith2273 Před 6 lety +4

    That's really good you show this kind off other countries history under Islamic law.

  • @lotsofqurans
    @lotsofqurans Před 6 lety +4

    +Soco Films
    Great lesson once again. *Soco* and *Bob,* it would be good if you can add some *informational links* at the info box under the video (like CZcams documentaries ?) that explores the topic Bob is talking about so people can *further their knowledge.* Maybe you can ask Bob to send you recommended links or documentaries of the topic he is exploring on the episodes so your audience has an opportunity be more informed. I am sure people will click on them. So, next time the topic comes up again, your audience will be better informed, and can engage in the topic better as their knowledge slowly gets built up. *Knowledge is power.*

    • @Itsmrajhful
      @Itsmrajhful Před 6 lety

      this was not a lesson and was very flawed. if you are actually looking into these matters please try and keep to academic work or look for academic consensus on matters and go from there. the askhistorians subreddit is a great place to start online. documentaries in general tend to either overhype or downplay events because they appeal to an tv/internet audience and not critical acclaim from actual historians. scholarly work on any historical matter is a lot more complicated and extensive and youre looking at many pages of peer reviewed information on even the most straightforward subjects. to go on even the best books on their subject tend to fade out of importance as scholarly work advances and new understandings make more sense. the least you can do is ask for sources on what people claim and check them. this video has no sources for any of their claims.. if you were to ask me most of what these guys know is from youtube

    • @lotsofqurans
      @lotsofqurans Před 6 lety

      +Itsmrajhful
      do you have the resoruces at hand?

  • @everlastthomas3549
    @everlastthomas3549 Před 6 lety +1

    A voice of reason n wisdom n hope.
    God bless you Bob n Soco.

  • @ReneMatuscak
    @ReneMatuscak Před 6 lety +2

    Bob is really inteligent very good speaker I like to listen to him all christians should unite!

  • @carlosillich787
    @carlosillich787 Před 6 lety +3

    Bob sounds like a fundamental templar calling for a new crusade. 😁

  • @calebmunuru3598
    @calebmunuru3598 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is a gem!💎

  • @TheRedrusso
    @TheRedrusso Před 6 lety +1

    Bob Is right. When nationalism took over Balkan was abandoned by Europe. That's why the gorgeous balkan peninsula fell into darkness.

  • @roguejester1356
    @roguejester1356 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks you....l love the history and bless you bob.

  • @biaktonsing9324
    @biaktonsing9324 Před 6 lety +2

    Amen

  • @chronologicalwhizz8081
    @chronologicalwhizz8081 Před 6 lety +5

    I like how Bob just skips over the fact of why we have a separation of church and state, did he forget the European wars of religion (Reformation wars) and the Age of Enlightenment? He keeps on saying that it is Islam vs Christianity but fails to mention the infighting of the Christian Religion and what it took for it to stop. This is the problem with Islam today it needs a reformation, will it ever be able to?

    • @richardschroepfer5357
      @richardschroepfer5357 Před 6 lety +1

      Chronicgical,,,, that's because Islamo jihad is an outside threat. It's a spirtual attack on humanity. The devil and his forces of evil are taking sovernity away from God's people.
      The Reformation was an inhouse quarrel. Just as tragic, and evil. Christians fighting each over how one got baptized? Publishing the Bible into the common language?
      This was a rebellion against the herecy and politacal corruption of the 'holy" catholic church. Where Bloody Mary Tutor burned great Chruch leaders like Wm Tynsdale. for darting to publish the Bible in English?
      Long story short. the powers of the state church won, driving us out to America.
      and the passing decades watered the church even more. The French Revoliton took its toll and by the end of WWI, Christanity was just about dead.
      Sow to the wind, reap the whrilwind. It ought to be no surprize that this inposter god has taken a foot hold.

    • @richardschroepfer5357
      @richardschroepfer5357 Před 6 lety

      Chronocogical. Again, God created us to be members of a nation. He gave us a home, a family and a laanguage. It follows that we should defend that which He created.
      But nationalism has it's limits. Often of late, it has become idolotry.

    • @chronologicalwhizz8081
      @chronologicalwhizz8081 Před 6 lety +1

      Σοφία What I meant by my statement is that Bob seems to think that more Christianty or the spreading of the message of Jesus is the best way to defeat Islam. My point was, how do you expect something to change when it can't change itself, a predisposition of sorts in the psyche.
      The problem I have with Isalm is that how can it expect other people to listen to it's message, when it can't even get it's own house in order. How can we be expected to tolerate a religion that cannot tolerate itself?

    • @kingswarriors243
      @kingswarriors243 Před 6 lety +2

      Jesus told us never to mix church with politics.. when pharasees tried to trap him by asking who do we pay tax to.. He asked for a dinarius (coin) and asked us the question.. whos image is this on here? Give to Caesar what is ceasar's and give to God what is God's.

    • @richardschroepfer5357
      @richardschroepfer5357 Před 6 lety

      Kings Warriors: Where dose he say that? Jesus told us to take dominion. to stand in the gate. to take an active role in the community.

  • @elroygertze8115
    @elroygertze8115 Před 6 lety

    Hey Socco. Hope you doing well brother. Next on Bob's hit list are Hamza, Adnan Rashied and Hijab.

  • @ruthmontes514
    @ruthmontes514 Před 6 lety +1

    The church is not the answer. That makes people slaves as much as Islam does. I am a Christian. I follow Christ, not a church. Bob went way off target. National identity is important. Laws, language and culture are what unite us. When you dilute that and deny your identity you lose your purpose to fight because you don't see the country as yours.

  • @andreivlad3518
    @andreivlad3518 Před 4 lety

    if the Romanians were not nationalists, they were lost as natives, trapped between their empires they could not survive, Romanian nationalism did not fail because it is not extremist, we say that England and France were not betrayed before WW2 and we fell into the hands of the Germans and of the Russians. Orthodoxy teaches you how to love people but teaches you to defend yourself and God did not make us slaves and fools. It is easy to explain to some Romanian people not to give their life for the country when your country was not invaded by anyone but on the contrary, the Romanian will leave from there crushed on your idea because he knows that if he does not go to die on the field family struggle and everything that was dear to him in this world can end in terrible torment. ww1 Romania loses 50% of the military personnel (we have no weapons, no problem we go with the axe). Western Europe has turned the back of the East and especially the Romanians whenever they have had the opportunity. Romanians are not racist in the worst case I say not Islam, they understand by nationalism that you have to love your country, who says about nationalism in Romania or nationalism is a failure because we have a president of another nationality we had a Muslim prime minister (a few days). Islamists in Europe was a mistake Western Europe will pay dearly. If you listen carefully to the anthem of Romania you will find out who they are from there! The priests were also fighting because he is not even worse when it comes to their country, they would light your candle and once they would even put their hands on their weapons when they saw what a blunder and misfortune they were heading for the nation they were praying for! Do not judge if you have not lived on your skin what this nation has experienced.
    The greatest hero was Stefan the Great and Holy who fought in 47 wars against the invaders and lose 2 times. The most important.
    the battle of Baia against the Hungarians.
    . -the battle from Codrii Cosminului where nothing left from Polish knights and Teutons -vaslui-the high bridge where the Turks suffered the greatest defeaon theat time.

  • @Kogaion100
    @Kogaion100 Před 4 lety

    Oh yes ;)

  • @andreivlad3518
    @andreivlad3518 Před 4 lety

    Church ortodox is bulding in bizantine stille!

  • @PaNDaSNiP3R
    @PaNDaSNiP3R Před 6 lety

    I absolutely love ur intro

  • @sytyvadi5091
    @sytyvadi5091 Před 6 lety +1

    BOB.... you cannot explain every historical event with religion. Russia does share same faith with Poland, do some reading about history of Poland and Russia, same religion but how many times Russians did try to overtake Poland, even when Germany attacked Poland in 1939, Russia stabbed Poland in the back. So if you check facts about Russia in the past you will clearly see that their's intentions did not come mostly from greed, not Christianity
    .

    • @kieran296
      @kieran296 Před 6 lety +1

      As Bob said by then, they wasn't thinking of Christendom but Nationalism. It became nationalism in the 1800s. Which Bob wants to destroy and rewire back towards Christendom

  • @blankabb1289
    @blankabb1289 Před 6 lety

    It's aloso a orthodox catolic problem

  • @christophermorgan3261
    @christophermorgan3261 Před 6 lety +2

    Bob tilts at windmills with his neo pan Christianism, his onward Christian soldiers. The Rumanian is more realistic.

    • @westernriteorthodox8719
      @westernriteorthodox8719 Před 6 lety +5

      You Atheists have destroyed Europe with your selfishness and hatred for tradition and identity, now letting Islam take your lands

    • @antonypotsiar5565
      @antonypotsiar5565 Před 6 lety +1

      christopher morgan nationalism has destroyed europe and can not unite anyone. A pan christian identity can unite a global movement.

  • @DocRealTalk
    @DocRealTalk Před 6 lety

    Most of those conflicts were about land and resources under the guise Christianity and Islam lol
    How things have changed.... *sarcasm*

    • @Itsmrajhful
      @Itsmrajhful Před 6 lety +2

      but.. but.. only christianity will save us ( 313-2018 and beyond )™

  • @unmaskingfools8152
    @unmaskingfools8152 Před 6 lety +3

    Here is 5 min History of Skenderbeg that Bob mentioned czcams.com/video/D42J85hy1X8/video.html

  • @pelagonianlion8276
    @pelagonianlion8276 Před 6 lety

    I agree that nationalism has been the downfall. If you look what happened to Macedonia in 1912-1913 with the treaty of Bucharest, where our Christian 'brothers', the Greeks, Serbs and Bulgarians carved up Macedonia and began a brutal assimilation of the native Macedonian population. Macedonians suffered in the Ottoman empire, under the Turks, and after that we suffered in the hands of the Greeks, Serbs and Bulgarians. All that happened in the name of nationalism and not in the name of Christ.
    Greeks at one stage even allied with the Turkish muslims against Macedonains.
    Here is a Greek Orthodox priest together with Muslim Turks:
    goo.gl/images/CQCUw5
    Greek and Turkish shaking hands:
    goo.gl/images/JZvMKQ
    Greek priest blessing Turkish cannons before they fire upon a Macedonian village.
    goo.gl/images/xRDnUr

    • @Itsmrajhful
      @Itsmrajhful Před 6 lety

      and so was faith. yet people are holding on to both of them and insist on forcing them on others. the only fundamental things that should guide us in relation with one another are those forgotten things like equality, human rights and freedom. nationalism and religion are in direct conflict with these things as both cannot be achieved without opression and conflict

  • @peacebeuntoyou8934
    @peacebeuntoyou8934 Před 6 lety

    How much did you pay this Romanian fellow Bob?

  • @albanezo
    @albanezo Před 6 lety

    Was this dude just calling for holly war for his brothers in Iraq and Syria? MI6 should take a closer look at this i think. By the way what he was saying about albanians under Ottoman Empire is bullshit, all albanian heroes were brought up under that time.

  • @carlosillich787
    @carlosillich787 Před 6 lety +1

    Bob the waffling fascist