This Part Of The FairPhone Isn't Repairable...?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- This is the Fairphone 5, Fairphone's latest and greatest addition to their repairable line of devices. This phone is quickly becoming one of my favourites- due to its repairability, transparency and ethical sourcing of minerals & materials to build the phone. Fairphone continues to impress me and this phone is no exception, with some pretty notable improvements over the Fairphone 4 I think all the hype is justified. But why is the Fairphone missing some aspects of repairability and is the price tag on this device justified? That's what we explore in this video.
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I don’t think it was fair to check the phone like this so much at Customs.
And you can do nothing about this, Which is something that I hate, Which is that you have No controls over it.
It’s to make sure it’s not a fake iPhone or another name brand phone coming into the country.
@@key462if you hate it don’t send stuff through international mail. They need to insect certain packages to make sure it’s not illegal
@@aussiedude3121 I know. Still kind of overkill especially with that ugly tape. And there’s plenty of fakes he unbox that don’t have that tape everywhere
@@SWOhioSpeedtesting they’re cracking down on it more now
Fairphone reminds me of Frameworks, the company making their laptops’ components replaceable.
I don’t see why Fairphone couldn’t do the same Frameworks do for laptops, whatsoever. It’d be amazing.
I wonder how much money they make doing this. And why there aren't any competitors trying to do something similar
They actually put more effort towards fair material usage and sources, unlike Framework.
Fairphone strive to create a phone that's fair as much as possible, which include getting sources with no child labor and certified mineral mining, etc.
While Framework only strive to make a customisable, repairable, modular laptops.
They make products that seems to share the same principle at look at function, but their company goals are slightly different. Nonetheless, would be cool if they could release upgradable modular parts instead of releasing new phones, much like... well... Framework
@@Mario_Lugo it cost too much and the sources dealing works aren't easy as they selectively choose them. Much like framework, customisable mobile devices cost a fortune to manufacture. Maybe that's why there are no competitors... yet...
@@Mario_Lugothere are mainly three reason
1. People won't upgrade to new phones if their old phones work for a long time and they fix it themselves.
2. You can see the phone is a bit thick and the internal design is like 2010 phones
3. They don't make as much as money as they would do from selling new phones with no repair
I remember Framework too, it is almost the same but with different devices.
i bought the fairphone 5 when it first came out and its been my daily driver ever since. super durable (ive already dropped it a few times, i havent bothered to get a case or screen protector yet and it still looks brand new) and the guaranteed lifetime is a great peace of mind thing. excited to use this for as long as i can get stuff out of it!
I love idea of swappable parts. Maybe in Fairphone 6, they could make the option for users that wants to upgrade to buy the phone with certain parts empty such as the speaker or the charging port and the user can just transfer those components from their older phone
For the old phone, the user could buy replacement for the missing parts and sell it or give to a family member maybe. That's certainly cheaper than buying a whole new phone.
Or if they don't want to, maybe they can send the old one back to Fairphone to recycle
@@ADFariedi think if they could sell as used devices. That is better than recycling. Recycling is the last option after Reduce & Re-use.
This aint framework bro. You know how much work they would have to put in their software for this?
@@gamingwithxan1430 yea that's fair
@@itsarian. I know. But it'll be cool, and it aligns with their company goal to reduce smartphones manufacturing impact. It would be cool, but it might not be achievable. I'm sure someone up in their company leaders have thought this but they just couldn't do it yet
Can't believe customs beat you to the unboxing
That mic was clean asf
The SoC is "future proof" because this SoC is an industrial grade or type that has a longer time of firmware support.
Apple mix with Samsung 🤔🤔
@@Ariabhgffu
What you mean?
According to the very transparent listing of costs ... the Fairphone costs that much, because that is what it should cost ... and you should rather wonder, why other phones cost so little. Where do they save money? (unethical working conditions, non ecologically sourced materials, etc. ) - If Samsung or Apple were as fair as the Fairphone, they would go for over 2k ... but - they are not, soo...
Samsung and Apple would be able to save some money due to economies of scale and fixed material costs (like screen and battery), but there's no way a normal big company will look into ethical sourcing when it would make production costs more expensive.
Most of the people in the world can't afford 2k phones.
Apples phone would not be more expensive, they already get way more than what it costs. They would just have to slim their margins by increasing producing cost.
The reasons why swapping the cameras and most other parts between the fairphone 5 and 4 not working is most likely the chipset/cpu, if it has different CPU’s it’s unlikely it’ll every work like that
Nah. Android hardware is not plug and play unlike windows lmao. The blobs (drivers) and tuning for the old cameras isn't there, and it can't be ported as it's soc specific.
@@christosath8132This is why I really wish someone would develop a proper alternative phone OS (likely Linux-based) that could be competitive with Android/iOS. Phone hardware is really cool, but niché innovations are limited by how tightly packaged the hardware is forced to be by the current software.
@@leonro You won't get around the proprietary blobs, even on linux. This could only be solved through legislation.
@@izumemori Oh yeah, they're proprietary. I didn't think of that. Well, that's just another reason why modern devices suck. The new technology itself is incredibly cool, but their creators are looking for every single way to lock it down.
In the markets they sell it in, it is as expensive as an iPhone 13, which are both around 700 euros. The iPhone 15 is about 900 euros, the 14 800.
An easily replaced USB C port and a OLED Screen? Count me in!
Both always go within a year. I'm so in now
For the price of an iPhone 15, idk man I prefer a budget Samsung or a cheap Poco tbh 😅
@@CarcosaheadOf course it's overpriced compared to the rest of the phone market, you're paying for ethical hardware production; there's a reason why other companies don't do it...
the chip had something to do with security updates. its an enterprise chip, so qualcomm supports it for longer.
i saw this on some other youtube channel a while back.
I've never known that there's enterprise grade SoC until now. Usually just enterprise CPU/GPU
why tf would someone want software update on a phone thats for planned obsolesence to make it runs slower
this chip performs like a 778g
@@lifeai1889 security updates are different from software updates. they do not make the phone slow.
phones get slow with new software updates because newer updates require more power.
It's an industrial SOC for like machinery and stuff
The fairphone is a good phone. Its repairability is really nice.. they should make all phones like this with the seal as well.
Funny how 10 years ago pretty much most of phones were this easy to repair… My Nokia Lumia 830 for example is just held together with screws. It has a user replacable 2000 mAh battery and even Qi wireless charging, its a semi flagship phone from 2014. Its bigger brother the 930 in the other hand was not so easy to fix with a glued chassis…
I actually thought one of the main draws for this phone was the ability to upgrade individual components instead of having to buy a whole new phone. I could have sworn Fairphone touted that claim at some point but I guess I was wrong. It sucks that you can't upgrade the parts individually between phones, and while being able to repair the phone easily is nice it would have been even nicer if they went to the extent of making upgradable parts. I was actually planning on buying a used Fairphone 4 and just buying parts for the Fairphone 5 and installing them, but it's a good thing I didn't do that.
So they basically lost a customer lol
I wish they sold something like what u said. I don't think it will ever be like that though
sounds like that cancelled google project that promised the same thing
You sound like you mean "Framework", the laptop company. Haven't seen Fairphone make that claim, but i could be wrong. But that would indeed be cool, but i see issues on the software side, due to Linux Devicetree stuff and Android Drivers and the Android Kernel just being a mess (trust me, i know how cursed it is, and the whole ARM scene in general.)
you misunderstood what they meant, but nevertheless they didn't entirely kept their actual promise either. They indeed claimed that phones would be upgradeable, but what they meant was not that you could upgrade from e.g. 4 to 5, but that they would for e.g. release a new camera module that would be compatible with fp4 and you could just buy that to upgrade and not buy an entire new phone. They actually did this up until FP3, but no upgraded modules where launched for FP4 and FP5 is already out.
But indeed, it would have been the coolest if modules would be backwards and forwards compatibility.
I believe upgrade-able parts is still their goal, and them having experience with modularity definitely helps, but it's just that they couldn't really pull it off yet. Or at least not in any exciting ways. I heard that they're discussing with qualcom to develop a mobile cpu socket (like PCs have), but also from what I've heard the discussion is rather one sided, meaning FP told them and qualcom didn't entirely and explicitly dismissed the idea immediately.
its nice to see phones like this. now get some more rubber geskets in between some parts and youll have a more resistent and not much more dissicult to repair phone with better audio quality
Just came across this video and all I can is wow, its about time we had a phone that can be repaired easily and if one part goes, just replace that one. I hope Fairphone makes Its way to CAPE town South Africa soon......I'd go into debt to have this phone. Merry Christmas guys.
Or you can just find reliable agent to source it for you
Just steal it.
@@4bafiafzil999 They'd need one that does more than merely "source" it.
After all who do they go to for warranty issues?
your videos are really stunning, how can you do these so well🐹
Yeah.. you probably put backlight voltage to some data lines of that screen. RIP. Nice video!
I have repaired many mobiles and brands that use different screws for everything but this looks very easy
Amazing. Love your videos. Great work bro
love your vids. they are always worth the wait
I hope you are okay. I couldn't help but notice that in some parts of the video you sound...diffrent. I hope you continue making videos and love doing it. Always will watch your vids. ❤
I love how they really sent the transparent back one to mister transparent black mod himself =))
That Wera Kraftform Precision Screwdriver though! Gorgeous
My country’s map in the phone part on the thumbnail made me watch the video
I was waiting for a long form content bruh 😂 it's been so long
I think making parts swappable/upgradable would also require fairphone to include a firmware to flash so the phone actually works with the upgraded part. Some parts would work without requiring that like speaker and charging port and some parts might be hard if not possible like display screen.
He's happy about business being taken away from himself and other technicians, but the change for self repairs is a welcome one.
Why am I getting JerryRigEverything vibes sometimes when watching this teardown? It's just missing "it scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7"
I really hope they keep gaining traction honestly.
Fairfone says its future proof because the chip they use is a commercial grade chip rather than a consumer chip. Commercial chips get upgrades for longer from qualcomm because its not expected commercial consumer to replace devices regularly. Consumer grade chips get replaced at a much higher frequency, so qualcomm just does not bother supporting them for as long.
I really want to get a Fairphone 4 or 5 someday, I love the idea of having a phone for 8+ years if possible. Heck, I’m still using a dinky ass iPhone SE (gen 1) from 2016! It’s getting close to being on its last limb but it has served me surprisingly well thus far.
Sure am gonna miss the small size and headphone jack when I eventually upgrade…
Same, though i have a samsung S8. At least there are some good quality Usb c dacs available like the fiio btr5, though its still annoying to buy a separate thing to have wired audio :/
As a Framework user, please review the framework laptop it's a really great laptop
Love the idea manageable phone.
But the electrocuted scenes give worries.
An unexpected benefit I found to using the Fairphone is that I can swap sim-cards without using a sim-card tool. I was tasked with making a bunch of calls and got a pre-paid card for that. It's been so nice to simply take off the back, swap the sim-card and turn it on again, all without having to find where I put that tool. I can likewise imagine this being useful when traveling abroad.
I own this phone and i had a blast from the beginning. People hating on the camera are kinda right but also kinda wrong. the camera is great if you know how to use it. It's good enough for normal pictures just don't expect the Samsung zoom on these phones. Sony camera modules are great and fairphone is still improving software wise to improve the picture quality.
The chip is future proof due to being able to run for a long time. These chips are actually not designed for phones but for robots and other oit devices that need a longer life span. Many companies have to drop support for phones due to qualcomm not pushing updates to a deprecated SOC. Fairphone eliminated that issue by choosing for a chip that gets supported with updates for more years to come(because the SOC of these chips get longer support). hence the longer support they can promise you for your phone.
The phone performs well think of it as a 2021 flagship and your good. The phone isn't the flashiest and the newest compared to your s23 or iphone. but it will do the job just fine.
Software runs well and gets improved by the month. You can really see how they put lots of effort in to this phone compared to other brands (cough samsung cough).
The repairability is also a great bonus ofcourse.
Feeling wise the phone feels like an iPhone 12 and or up.
You can actually see some similarities in the camera app and in the way this phone has been designed.
E/os ran from day one so that will make it even feel more like an actual iPhone for our fanboys out there.
The phone is a bit on the heavier side with rounded edges and a somewhat thicker feel that you only notice at the start (which didn't matter to me because many of us actually knew how chunky a phone used to be).
Long story short: I'd recommend this phone if you like a phone that's quick enough for all of your apps and games(on medium settings).
So happy you are so supportive of Fairfone! Proud of you!
I think the Claim that the SoC is futureproof is because it's one of qualcomms iot/edge SoCs, which get longer driver Support. If you use one of those in for example a remote locstion, lets say as part of a weather Station on a mountain top, you don't want to get a new one brought up there every few years, just because the thing doesn't get any more support
Thanks for the vid!
I think fairphone target the wrong market with their phones, they need to make more high end devices as with a repairable and sustainable phone you can keep it around longer.
Also people in that market are more concerned about sustainability. I’d love a fair phone but I also love having flagship devices which push the limits and keeping them for 3-4 years.
they will if the price can go down they will make higher specs phones
Hey man your videos are awesome I love learning about tech. Been a tech fan since me and my dad built windows 95 desktops. I just have one very big question. Is it hard to fix the bottom glass off an Apple Watch Ultra? And would it be better to just get a new one or just repair the one I have? I appreciate you and your videos bro
I haven’t done it before, would make for a cool video. But based on what I’ve seen no not at all, just difficult to retain that water resistance after
the problem is that there's no IP rating with modular phones today. my 400$ a54 submerged accidentally and still works fine.
You should try testing microphones, DankPods style.
The facts that it also had a micro sd card slot is a win, more access to a portable storage is what new devices are missing
Honestly, the only negative appears to be the lack of wireless charging imo
Finally a phone I can take apart and put back together when I get bored!
Hi 👋 do you mind having a Samsung A54 opened up and take a look inside the phone itself? Or might as well try the Redmagic 9 that has a transparent background.
Please do a review on iPhone 14 Pro camera over processing images and sharpening it out how to fix it
Can you do mods on it please? Like improving the speaker and adding wireless charging?
With a fair phone we all be phone repair guru
Customs opened my iphone 15 pro last week
I would love it in sub 6 inch frame
It's not fair that they removed the aux jack.
Well, the only other manufacturer of modular phones, SHIFTphone, did the same, so I guess parts are just not available anymore.
Why is there a third circle on the back cover next to the 2 camera lenses?
Nice video!
Love your vids, so pro like the iphone, now I got a package.
I would get the fairphone as a 2nd phone that I'd keep thru generations of my actual daily
you gotta get the fairbuds xl and try them with the phone😂
You should look at the schematics they provide for free on their website to descern possible dangers before you swap parts that can potentally encourage someone harm themselves.
i expected customs to also put a sticker on the phone itself
I want this phone or that new Lenovo. Love this stuff
I do not know how much of 750 usd goes to employees and sustainable recycling and chain supply. But I hope It's as they advertise.
Main issue is hardware. By the time the 8 years of updates are done the hardware will be quite far behind. Like framework I wanna be able to upgrade components for more longevity. Cos after those 8 years people will get a new phone and the whole point of fair phone is longevity through repairability.
An upgradable SoC would be great, but I'm quite sure that won't be a thing for quite a while.
I’m surprised customs opened your package and not my DIY iPhone 11 style housing for my iPhone XR 😂 or my knockoff AirPods 3 I bought almost two years ago
Actually till now i have never seen this phone in anyones hand
I was about to bought the fairphone but the lack of 3.5mm jack was a dealbreaker.
The CPU is not standard for smartphones. This one is used normally for industrial applications. The advantage is that CPUs for industrial applications have longer service lifes from the side of the producer.
9:22 is Snowball the dancing Cockatoo. Went viral for dancing to the Backstreet Boys and was on international news.
How's the software support? Does come with Google Play or does it have it's own app store?
its running android so yes
We got package.
Cam you do a review on meze audio 99 neo headphones
Do a lightning conversion on an iPhone 15
Photo processing can always be improved with GCAM.
Um this is unrelated but my iPhone 7 home button constantly rapid press when I touch it like it inputs multiple clicks a second and am looking but seems like no one has a fix
Wait, that map thing is real ? I thought its just like a coolant paste or something 🤣
try putting lightning port on the fair phone
💀💀💀
Hey so, i have some questions. I have been a bit carless with my ipad, and cracked the screen. Then cracked it again, and its gotten to a bit of a bad point. The internal screen has no damage, just the glass cracked. How much would it cost, mainly. It is a gen 8 apple ipad large, i am pretty sure. And also how can i get it to you if so?
We need to be able to upgrade the parts as time goes on. The software updates are great, especially the security ones, but after 8 years the hardware will be a bottleneck. As long as they produce parts that we can swap in, it'll be a huge success!
woah a new video!
Do you know how to take out striped screws on a 3ds
Is there away I can contact you to see if my iphone 11 pro is fix able so I can ship it
For this price they should fix the bezels
I was wondering if you can put a iphone 14 pro screen on a original 14. Can you try that if its possible?
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Great phone, will be buying one.
Hey I have an iPhone that fell in a sink 3 years ago it’s just been sitting there can you fix it?
Review framework laptop also
I wish they put a charger in the box.
Fairfield 5 sounds round as good as your microphone that you’re using to normally film
For me, I still prefer the f(x)tec Pro¹-x.
Same "no glue" mentality for pretty much everything (only the QWERTY keyboard is glued because they didn't find an alternative).
Same "can take apart with just a single sized screwdriver"
Same "no pairing of any parts or any other kind of DRM"
Different "has headphone jack"
Different "has factory selectable keyboard layout"
Aproximately the same price.
Different: Don't have extremely rich investors.
I just looked it up and I think that their next version might be my next phone once this one fully stops. I loved my mom's old phone I got as a kid because it had the keyboard. I would be using it to this day if it wasn't so outdated
What's up with the software? Is it stick android? or are they staying with AOSP..or /e/ ?
It’s a modified Android OS I’m pretty sure, but I think they work through Murena to sell Fairphones with with eOS as well.
"You wont get that with other phones"
Me: looks at my nokia
Imagine someone selling a refurbished model of this 💀💀💀
I want someone to make a jig to create your own vack covers. Like with random plastics or something.
Can you use an iPhone without the back glass. Meaning can you remove the back glass and instead put a skin on it. Would that make the iPhone less heavy. I mean I don't see any use with an extra glass on the back. 😕
Bro i watched this 2 mins after it got uploaded the whole comment section is scams bro google needs to worth on the bot situation 😭
Nah. More Bots, more Ads. That’s the way to go. /sarcasm
At least we can give Samsung and Apple credit for at least including a charging cable. If that's actually the case, and they didn't actually include one.
Imo it should be a free addon, like when you buy it you check the box for cable or even a full charger. I don't need it but having the option would be nice for those that don't want to get some third party one or the expensive first party one (looking at you apple!)
the Galaxy S5 neo is IP68 water resistant and has a removable back
If no headphone jack, then it needs wireless charging so you can have a and adaptor plugged into the port and charge it the same time
There are adapters which support both. I've got one and it works great. Sadly Fairphone doesn't sell those, but a simple USB-C to headphone jack adapter instead...
Damn that's actually a good mic