How Thogden Became YouTube's Most Hated Football Creator
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How Thogden Became CZcams's Most Hated Football Creator
How Thogden Became CZcams's Most Hated Football Creator
How Thogden Became CZcams's Most Hated Football Creator - Hry
My only issue with Thogden is that he acts as if he knows more than he does. There's nothing wrong with not knowing something if you're honest about it.
That’s fair lad
so does every other football fan.
@@Harvm but other football fans dont have a YT CHANNEL thats spreads hate
@@matsumoto_9562 what?? switching teams does not spread hate
True. But all these CZcamsrs seem to be like that it's not just Thogden.
The thing with Thogden for me is he reminds me of the annoying influencer side of YT, the side that feels disingenuous.
That being said, I just click not interested and move on. But the people going out of their way to plot these weird dark fantasies of Thogden being harmed? That’s deranged and they need to go outside.
Spot on, there’s one thing not liking an influencer but I do feel like he’s over-hated now
Shush Little American
Me two, that's why I unsubbed just rn.
@@parovozrufclm And why you say that?
@@parovozrufclm What’s that have to do with anything? He’s just saying his opinion on the topic.
for the mistakes thogden has made, the abuse he gets for them is so insane.
He’s just so unlikable and irritating, I don’t even think the abuse is directly because of the mistakes - rather the mistakes are an excuse to abuse him.
Yeah I mean if you don't like him then move on & find a CZcamsr you do like, no need for any hate.
I think jealousy is the main factor.
@@ghc3155 he called Ranieri among worst 3 epl manager. Deserve it.
@@eavyeavy2864 since when does that deserve a beheading 💀💀
When are we getting 'How did AwayDays become CZcams's sexiest Football Creator'?
Next week cutie pie❤️
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I was going to like this comment until I saw it has 69 likes. Very fitting.
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Very balanced view Vizeh, well done. I personally don't watch the vlogs just because it's not my thing, I watch his "one player your club should sign" videos, predictions etc etc. It's all just jealousy I feel like, and even though I do dislike his character in many ways, he's simply using his platform to his advantage, something which every single one of us would do if we were in his position, and we all know it.
Appreciate it lad
Yeah ultimately jealousy is where most of this all stems from
I don't even know who Thogden is lol(im not english and seemingly hes behind Alfie, Niran and Vizeh in my algorythm)
But the last sentence is just truth.
Everybody would take advantage of their fortunate position.
Stealing from kids isn’t jealousy
Honestly the problem is people take thogden too seriously... he is a character and he obviously genuinely loves football and thats what great about him. He takes his fans on the trips he goes to to foreign countries to feel what not everyone can. His prem predictions are for fun, people need to just grow up and understand its not that deep. He is high energy and loves what he does and i love him for it, people who go out their way to hate need help and people who are bothered by how he acts shouldnt watch. What harm does thogden do, thats right NON.
I totally agree.The seriousness these football fans take is too far.
I AGREE
Exactly.
Liam pin this plz
@Xavier Lynch jelousy
I personally enjoy watching Thogden. I can see why many people don't like him, but as someone who lives in the Unted States and can't afford to go to these big European games, his videos give me a sense of what its like attending keeping me hopeful that one day I might be able to watch an epl or Bundasliga match live one day. And remember , just because you don't like a person, doesn't mean you have to personally attack them in the most vulgar way possible.
Spot on!
He can just be a little annoying that’s my only complaint.
Correct
If you are interested in a particular club you should watch vloggers of said club who support them, without that real connection to a team you will never get the full experience because to get that requires more experience than just turning up for a game you think will get views, you also learn a bit if subtitles are required.
You said exactly what I was thinking
Very fair analysis mate. In real life Thogden is a great guy and I think pretty much anyone who has met him can confirm 👍
Thank you lad
Theo is a good guy
But don't bring thogden to football analysis,
@@piplupempoleon4225 Don’t bring him near your kids either, he might steal their stuff
Fiago!
Theo is a good guy, he doesn’t deserve this amount of hate
Definitely overhated
agreed and well said
Agree he is one of my favourite CZcamsr
His dads a torie
@@fifa_zilla980why should that make us hate thogden?
He’s a young lad watching football with his dad having the time of his life, just leave the guy alone if you don’t like him don’t watch his videos…
That’s fair enough!
This guy have bias opinions
@@ameEeeee3 cope
@@ameEeeee3 everyone does he just says them
@@ameEeeee3 everyone has biased opinions
As an American, I've never though of Thogden in such a negative way. I did not even know that people viewed him in such a negative light. This is so sad as I grew up watching this guy and got me into watching the EPL Championship and League One. Here in the US, there is no football atmosphere like there is in Europe, and he allowed me to see how it felt to be a fan sitting in that stage. I personally never found him annoying. He's a young lad and that's his personality. I simply think that many are jealous of his growth as a CZcamsr and it's sad how much hate this guy is getting because he really inspired me to start CZcams and do what I love.
Exactly how I feel abt him… just seems like a kid living his dream. Football fans are the worst man
As an American I completely disagree. Never heard of Thogden and care less to know about him after this video. Seems like another dude at games. There's at least a dozen North American lads like him, and much better South American characters than this guy. Watch the Libertadores every once in a while. Oh wait. Your mls teams don't bother in that tourney. GL fellow American
no football atmosphere like there is in europe? let me take you to an Austin FC game bro😂we've sold out every game in our history
@@void_skyy and it will still be nothing like real football 😂😂
@@JF1908x whens the last time you watched an mls game?
This is genuinely a young lad with passion for the game living the dream. Of course he's gonna be hated for having an opinion that rubs people the wrong way sometimes. All he can do is ignore that hate and just keep doing what he is doing
There Is something called bad opinion because he can't bother to do 15 minutes research before making opinion
This is thogdens burner, there’s no way anyone can think that
@@Do27ggOP has one of the most reasonable takes in this entire comment section.
I don't even know the guy whos spoken about in the video, but he is seemingly doing alot of traveling to football games, speaking about it and earning alot of money.
You could call that the dream for any football fan. I dont need to explain to you that many people, especially on the internet, get angry when they simply disagree with you. And if he wants to keep a nice lifestyle and watch a lot of football its best to just continue.
So how can YOU not agree with any of these points is the way better question.
@@LiftandCoa the fact you don’t even know who he is and how he carries himself explains why you are saying t what you said. Thogden is the biggest wet wipe I’ve ever laid my eyes on
loving the new videos Vizeh great work, in comparison to the fifa stuff its clear your enjoying yourself again which is great! all the best 🙌
Glad you enjoy it!❤
@Vizeh where's my heart Viz!? Jk man I been watching for 3 years and I haven't seen a more dedicated football CZcamsr than you, you seriously surprise me with your topics each video, much love and keep being you mate ❤️
He gives fans like me a match day experience and culture experience that us across the world can't experience.
Exactly, i dont know how people cant understand and appreciate it.
@@Maelsstrom because they're probably self-entitled prats that don't understand how much the game has grown in countries outside of their own that don't consider football their national sport.
@@Maelsstrom probably because you aren’t interested in your local club
@@danclarke4519 you realize many people live in places with inconsistent local clubs that barely play or no club at all. We aren’t all lucky enough to live in cities or towns with an organized football club
@@captainCaybrew bro your names hayden wood you're not living in a somalian mud hut and you have internet access lol
I see him as a guy just enjoying watching a sport he loves with his dad. Him and his Dad have a special bond and its honestly why i enjoy his content so much
honestly Liam i’m loving the new content, keep up these story-short essay type vids
It's not his fault he got lucky and was born in England and came of age in a social media Era, it's also not his fault he has a cheerful personality or his family has money. I actually find his hustle inspiring.
Generally let's not be jealous of his luck In life. Let's just hope we will prepare enough to use our opportunites when we get them, so we can be just as lucky too.
I don't mind the football vlog, I criticize football analysis
@@piplupempoleon4225 This, i actually think his vlogs are fun and really well produced. But please stay away from analysis Thogden, it's for your own good.
I dislike thogden and don’t rate his football opinions at all. But he dosent deserve all the abuse, he’s really annoying but hasnt done anything that bad
Loving Vizeh new content man been watching him for almost 6 years now he’s always been a very underrated keep doing what you’re doing mate and as I said loving the way you are taking the channel to
Thank you very much, I try my best!
You’re welcome mate have you thought about doing a video on Jack Wilshere would be a really interesting typical to touch on?
The new content fr has been fantastic, he’s gonna blow up again soon
As someone who watches footy content on youtube daily, I never had an issue with Thogden. Never followed him or his channels but when he would appear on other channels (Mark Goldbridge, Ben Foster, Etc.) I thought a dad son duo on youtube was nice and wholesome for a change
I work 12 hours a day myself in a Hospital and I know Thogden is living the dream but I still respect his work rate because he still puts in insane amount of hours to keep the dream alive. I can't hate him for that cause I would do exactly the same thing in his shoes. I think people don't realise that comparison is the thief of joy. Just compare yourself to who you were yesterday and make improvements where you can. It's not easy but nothing good comes easy.
Credit to Viz for remaining neutral throughout, very easy to sway to 1 particular side. Fair play.
It’s only fair too haha
It seems like this is a good vid, Also Vizeh you're doing a madness right now with your videos in a positive way
Thank you lad!
Vizeh is da best
Love your new format of vids. Keep the good work up mate
Glad you like them!❤
the fact he complained about working "15 hours a day" and "only getting 6 hours sleep" while attending stadiums built by slave labour is what really did it for me....
Someone else has made this similar comment but I don't think that Thogden was actually complaining about it. I believe that he was wondering whether the hate he received online for the work he did during the world cup was worth it
No one cares mate 😂 “really did it for me” 😭 jealousy at its finest
I enjoy thogden as a football fan that wants to see more from the game and experience historic football moments in different angles, interviews, fans reaction because broadcasters usually silence fans chants on thogdens vlogs you fully hear it and it’s something another fan can’t offer
6:45 these are quite possibly the two most accurate rules I’ve ever seen, fair play
Dang what he do, I mainly just watched him for world cup predictions, kit ratings, things like that
Ikr
Out of all people, he definitely gets a lot of attention
Same bro
@@GetMeOutOfMyMisery based profile pic
@@LocalNoob_2 lol yea
I felt a bit bad for him when I listened to the fellas pod, I actually really rated chip and cal for kinda "big bro-ing" and giving real advice. I think he just needs to own it and give a bit back, but idk if that's really in his character. Great video btw mate, been really loving the new style
Think he needs good people around him to keep him grounded aye, thank you lad
Yo Vizeh I used to watch your fifa videos back in the day and suddenly CZcams is recommending me all your new videos now good job bro!!!!!!!
All love❤️
Your commentary/informational videos are underrated ash, keep up the good work 💪😤
Glad you think so!❤
Another argument came a lot more recently when Bolton (his own team) played a massive match in the playoff race and he went to some random game in Europe
I really do love this new content by big V in this doc style keep it up
Thank you lad!
I'm an American who follows European football, mostly EPL and UCL. I watch his videos to get the scoop on the weeks matches that no one else around me cares about. I didn't realize he was hated. I'm pushing 40 years old and can't imagine hating a kid who has passion. I just love watching a younger person with passion and excitement talk about what he loves with his dad. There are a lot of reasons to hate an aspect of football: streaming rights, human rights violations, corruption, money, etc, and a kid who grinded his own way through that with passion isn't one to hate. Then again, I'm not exactly over saturated with football content, I get the amount I need/want. So maybe if I was British this would be different, but I wouldn't turn hateful, just annoyed with the companies who seem to push it.
English Sarcasm Alert,My Friend:)..Obviously,I can only speak for myself but I pathologically hate Thogden because I am a JEALOUS, embittered person who hates the fact that a fresh-faced young lad had toured the World doing something that most Males would love to do for Free. Also, he is SUCCESSFUL, which makes me wild because we love a working-class underdog but to think he not only travels everywhere, in style but gets paid to do it is beyond sickening. As well as that, it is a proud British tradition to build someone up but when they reach a certain level of status and celebrity to bring them down to earth to show them, that WE, the PUBLIC, are still in charge. YOUNG, WEALTHY, SUCCESSFUL, and LIVING THE DREAM. I hate him!
what pissed me off was when he was celebrating infront of the japanese fans wearing the belgium jersery, and thenn celebrating belgium getting knocked out, it makes no sense
Lmao you have a favourite each game. I support Germany and let's say our group had Netherlands and Japan. I would 100 percent support Japan. And then 4 years later Japan Is in another group with underrated teams like Canada and morocco.i would want Japan to get knocked out. Idk how you get pissed off about a man switching after 4 years
Does whatever he thinks is most entertaining I guess
@@zuesnastrio3062 Lmao so switching up on teams is what is going to get you hate and thogden did it multiple times, clearly he isn’t from Belgium but celebrating crazy just for him to switch up just shows how fake he can be
@@elcuhyeee6253 no switching up on your main team is what gets you hate. switching up as a neutral literally means nothing
@@Vizeh but can’t you see why some people are hating on him, I 100% agree on the jealousy point but to me this is what it looks like
Loving this content Viz
Thank you bro!
I've just decided to subscribe to your channel based on how balanced and objective this feature analysis video is. I wish more journalists took a leaf from your book. I am going to watch your response video to Thogdad next. Please keep up the great work by doing objective and balanced content. I am sure that you will based on this video. Thank you Vizeh!
The Qatar beaheading comment had me fucking rolling lmfao
These documentary videos are great mate 👍
I don’t mind him
But then again, I just discovered him and I’m smart enough to not engage in twitter
I like his football vlogs and that is literally just it he makes some good videos and i have nothing more to say
Theo is just a lad trying to make content to his fans and also enjoy his life and make his fan happy
As an Arab, seeing his videos and the charisma he acquired within the Middle East over his latest videos, I can’t help but like the guy. We all mess up sometimes, I hope he learns!
Another thing he lied about was when he falsely claimed that Robbie from AFTV had demanded payment to appear in one of his videos - complete bollocks of course.
The hate can go too far sometimes, but he is definitely a compulsive liar who needs to be called out for it!
2022/23 is really both Burnley and Vizeh revelation
Theo is a fellow BWFC fan and Ive always enjoyed his BWFC vlogs. People can be so jealous of someone who has created their own success by doing something they love to do. Instead of hating, why not use it as inspiration to do the same for yourself. Haters never get anywhere
im gonna report all his social media right now thank you for your influence, you are good influence for our community
RIP English timestamps:
1:23 "83.4 percent of you who has watched..."
3:33 " ...people that does do football vlogging"
11:38 "... his multiple videos has done so well"
13:14 "people , especially in the hardcore scene , sees influencers..."
I have mixed opinions about Thogden. His videos are nice, I like them, but he sometimes acts like he knows everything. The hate on him is awful, he doesn't deserve it. He is having fun, and he deserves it. He blew up on yt, gets paid I believe quite nicely, so why can't he just have fun with the money? He sometimes makes mistakes, but who doesn't? Humans aren't perfect, but at least they learn to not make the same mistake again. I don't know him personally, but he seems like a nice bloke.
Not gonna lie I didn’t know he was hated until know 😂😂😂
I have just subscribed to your channel thank you for all the hard work you do to make these good videos
Vizeh have you been to Luton town fc
whats wrong with what theos doing, hes just sharing his passion with everyone. Big ups to him
As Irish man I’ve huge respect for him nothing wrong with young lad who grew his platform and nice personality he deserves everything he’s got don’t hate him cuz u ain’t him going to work everyday when his jobs going watching football fair play to him
I respect what Thogden does and the success he has, he just comes off as a bit of a show-off, the tone he speaks in mostly sounds like he's bragging. He also tends to think his football opinions are genuine fact that should never be doubted, and always tends to call out other youtubers when they get stuff wrong eg. Rory Jennings. All the excess hate is unnecessary tho.
These video essays aee amazing tho, really will take your fanbase to another level.
Those are very valid comments tbf!
Personally I like him, as a Bolton fan who can’t attend a lot of games for travel, money and time reasons I like watching him to watch what it’s like from the Bolton end as the highlights on CZcams for league 1 are so soulless
I’ll never forget when he done a video at Newcastle and zoomed in on the poor bloke who had a heart attack and put it on the thumbnail!!! 😩
As someone who lives in the US, his vlogs do help us appreciate the culture and atmospheres in Europe. I love this game, but I’m disconnected due to the Atlantic.
He is a good guy and makes great content don't see a point to hate on him
May not like his personality, and could be some jealousy
@@Vizeh they're butthurt cause he can go to games and they can't. Gotcha 😂😂
hey man, great video, with the editing, keep it up mate
Legend lad!
Part of the job. He's got to stand above that.
He's hated?
Very much so
While we are here lads.... Newcastle for UCL? Yes or no?
@@progamerman27 probably
Also Viz, when are you gonna talk about the amazing season Burnley is having rn!!!
NVM I'm a freakin idiot
Personally I have no issues with Thogden and enjoy his videos. I find them interesting, informative (especially if I’m planning on visiting that ground/ team) and I was impressed with his fairly accurate WC predictions; sorry Messi fan here 🐐🇦🇷😂❤️
Having done you tubing in the past, it's difficult and hard work and all credit to him for succeeding with subscribers etc. I'm 23 and in my honest opinion he isn't humble or down to earth. I loved his early stuff at Bolton games but as he got more publicity I feel he changed. One time when he was on Saturday social he kept butting in when someone was speaking because he didn't agree with her opinion. She hardly got a word in because of it and I lost any little respect I had then. If he was less arrogant and actually listened to others a bit more I think he could be great. Videos like yours are great, a story, you mean what you say and are personable. The mario balotelli video a good example. If he changes his way slightly, he could become a goat in vlogging but I think if it doesn't change soon, that'll go
What a video Vizeh smashing it mate love to you and the fam 🫶🏼
All love man!
Cos he supports Bolton
Theo to me is a quite big knob in my honest opinion but some comments were way too far.
Definitely overhated
@@Vizeh I dislike him but 100%
In Brazil have Lucas Thilty who go to every 2022 World Cup game too
been here and at thogdens channel before the “beef” and found it hilarious that some kid made a disstrack on u when he had less subs and to see where he is now is crazy, still not sure my opinions on him but great video and loving these football investigations. keep it up mate
I don’t hate him, I just don’t believe he should be in the position he’s in. He doesn’t know enough about football to be on sky sports, for example. It’s not about lack of involvement, you don’t have to be part of the game for 30+ years to know about it. He doesn’t have a “footballing brain”, and that’s fine, just don’t talk about it on paid tv.
I met Thogden at the World Cup as an Aussie fan. He’s a good guy and I believe this is all fuelled by jealousy. No ego on him at all. Followed me on IG and still replies despite presumably getting loads of DMs etc.
Hey Vizeh really really loving these new videos they’re just so fucking awesome i just love watching then
Genuinely the Micheal Owen of youtube "pundits"
He just feels so fake, I actually think he’s probably a decent guy behind the lens, it just seems everything he does he just ends up looking like he’s trying too hard, or is just scripting to fit a narrative that isn’t really his.
He seems like an industry plant, even though I don’t think he is, he had a natural growth over the years.
That is a accurate way to describe him tbf!
Yo this guy right, he a fucking Industry plant! 💀💀💀
The irony is that if these people spewing rubbish about him on Twitter had as much popularity and influence as he does, then they would be acting in the same manner as he does which will attract similar criticism and hate comments on social media
Years ago, a guy sat right in front of me died of a heart attack during the game. Match wasn’t stopped, and only knew h died cos he went with his brother who also had season tickets so we’re always in the same seats, and overheard him say he died with that seat being empty the rest of the season. I was only 15/16.
When u said "atmosphere" I really felt tht😭😭🔥
I think part of the reason people hate on Thogden is that, NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY TELL WHY HE'S SO POPULAR!!. Like that dude is everywhere, in everything and a lot of people(myself included) feel he doesn't have the expertise or even the entertainment value to be in these places, there are LOTS of CZcamsrs and Influencers who deserve to be on places like Talksport and BBC before Thogden. so idk what he's done to get so much mainstream notoriety but when I see him in one of those chairs beside proper pundits I just can't help but think that someone else should be in that spot who would do the 'content creators' justice. Thogden and his ignorant takes just make it seem like CZcamsrs don't know jackshit about football.
That's just my thought though, time to start the video.
He's a proper helmet ⛑
Please make more videos like this, they are great.
He may not be a real fan but he can express himself as a real fan on his channel. It does feel natural
its just his face
that’s not very nice 😂
His stupid face you mean
Did you go to Jelly School?
He represents Twitter fans who act like experts on the sport. He has to have an opinion on everything. That’s what annoys me
Irish guy 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Personally I didn’t find it wrong wut he did he did highlight the things that happen in the Middle East for tourists especially from the vid where his dad got help form extortion that’s gr8 cus u can be vulnerable like that I liked that a lot he’s not done anything wrong jus supporting him also qatar wc was the best wc I’ve ever seen
I personally love theo and his vids i dont see no problem in anything i started watching him in 2021 before the problems
I think us Brits don't like Thogden because he acts way too over the top for British people and I think that's why his only fans seem to be America where a bombastic personality is expected
I don't like him because I am a jealous, embittered Londoner seeing this young lad, living the dream, worldwide and doing something most of us would do for free and he is doing very well and is popular and successful. I don't like him. Too happy.Too young and worst of all,he is to successful:(
Forgetting that they went on a tirade of AFTV and Robbie for no reason whatsoever.
Why would you hate someone in the first place? what did they do? Kill someone? Bully someone? Harass, Stalk, endanger?
I don't have a problem with football vlogs. I don't support Arsenal but I have watched DT's vlogs for the games he went to, like when he travelled to Sweden for a Europa league game, or the FA cup final win vs Chelsea
THE IRISH GUY FINALLY GETS RECOGNITIONNNNNN
is it just me but i see no problem ???
Thogden is just a young football mad fan. He’s set up a CZcams and become very successful in what he does, he’s not and has never claimed to be any kind of expert, he simply voices hos opinions which we are all entitled to. I can understand how he may seem irritating to some but these comments and hate aimed at him are vile and completely nonsense.I genuinely believe they’re fuelled by jealousy of his success and people reading to much into his content. Although im not a fan of his I wish him every success in his career doing things others including myself can only dream of
Love the video, great work
Thanks for the love!
Lets be honest, he is famous only because of his father. Unfortunately, he didnt teach him how to not be an arrogant manchild…
He is famous and successful because he has a happy knack of bringing about great football content worldwide which most of us, have no access to and I have been to 1,770 matches, mostly,in London.
People hate him cause he is successful. He is in all of your heads.
Farkin straight fax
I enjoy watching him with his dad, thogdad is a legend
Hi vizeh, I been watching you for a few years now. I really used to enjoy your fifa content and I like the type of videos your doing rn. I was wondering would it be possible to do a xhaka video because his turnaround deserves to be addressed.
My only real problem with him is simply that he feels so sanitised and corporate and yet wants to act like just another regular football fan. You can't be living off mad sponsorship deals and constant media appearances and at the same time pretend you're just a regular fan. He should honestly at this point be treated in the same way media pundits are. Sure, they may be fans of football but there's still an obvious gap between, say, a regular Liverpool supporter and Jamie Carragher, or a regular United supporter and Gary Neville. Basically, Thogden can't have his cake and eat it. He can't be a massive media personality and still pretend to just be one of the lads at the same time.
Remember his diss track on you aha
i think it’s different when ppl do nothing but blogging vs when ppl play fifa and blog sometimes
For me I just love thogden
.. I just enjoy a football fan who get to show us wat it like out there