Felice MA LOVED when they discussed that. She flat out said “y’all didn’t watch The Red Table Talk” in other words everyone has an opinion on this subject based on 30 seconds clips posted on social media
If all of you spent 10 minutes to research the facts you would not be calling MJ and rapist or talking about the parents. Wade Robson has been trying to make money off MJ in life and death. He tried to get the job as the choreographer for MJs tribute tours but didn’t get it. Ever since then he changes his story. Has went to civil court to ask for settlements but has not taking or to criminal court because there is no evidence.
I really feel it for Jeanie, with all of these accusations coming out it’s she’s constantly having to re-live her traumatic experiences. Props to you Jeanie for constantly being strong, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
I noticed. I also noticed that the other ladies spoke up before her, even though she's the one who has experience with it so probably has the most to say. But I guess that way she can have more time to talk at the end.
@@person8520 Yes Jeannie might be grown but she is also a grown adult who has been through tremendous trauma. It was probably very difficult to speak on the situation since it personally happened to her for years.
Isabel Majugo what does that have to do with anything? I feel like it’s such a ridiculous come back, lol. Like it’s her job to interview every single subject? She did this one because it spoke to her and she wanted to share their stories. And good for her for doing so. Ridiculous to think because she hasn’t interviewed every person surrounding any sexual accusations that somehow makes this one illegitimate.
Agree.. and I dunno how much amount they get for coniving with this poor and fallacious docu.. not watching Leaving Neverland anyway. Watch LOVING NEVERLAND INSTEAD.
Money being involved and going for justice doesn't mean mj did nothing or anything...many victims like murderer families And rape victims were compensated that doesn't mean incidents didn't occur...just think replacing 2 boys here with girls..the world would have been fumed..it doesn't matter how great mj is if he did mistake....Thats it
@@krishnasimhavemulapalli7124 Yes it does. If my kid was abused, I wouldn’t want the abuser’s money nor any money from said abuser’s insurance. I would want this person in jail. No amount of money will ever make them forget their abuse. And if you do you research, you’ll know that these allegations started of as an extortion scheme and it has been proven countless times that MJ did not do it. If you are willing to do research, watch the “Square One” documentary on CZcams, it breaks down the 1993 allegations and what really went down behind the scenes. These allegations have been false from day 1 but the media wants you to believe otherwise.
EVERYBODY DO YOUR RESEARCH, I believed Wade and James at first and for a few days but after seeing the other side (which they didn’t even show) I now definitely don’t believe them
Frida Kokk Same here! I believed it at first but There are are so many inconsistencies in the “Mocumentary”- countless videos refuting all the bs that they spewed.
i’m forever grateful that u did ur research as it reveals so much evidence to support michaels innocence. i just wish the whole world knew all the evidence.
@@ladennayoung2939 The media has literally put so much time and effort into making Michael Jackson out to look like a predator. That’s why when he was found not guilty on all 14 charges, the general public was shocked. Real MJ fans and people who did their research weren’t shocked.
@@amberm7116 there's hundreds of videos on CZcams that debunk evry word those tow clowns said with prof and prof they are fucked up non trust worthy ppl and that their families are bankrupt and in debt so.... Maybe go watch those before looking like a clown....
👏👏👏👏👏bravo. I agree with you. After i divorced i never let my kids sleep and my ex house because he share the house with friends whos i don't know. So i don't understood this parents let them kids with a total stranger. Parents only want money and now this guys too
Aloha in 10+ years of investigation, not one proof that proves him guilty.. so just because people accuse him, don’t just believe it... they’re probably doing it for money... just let the man rest in peace
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom How about that parents never let them kids sleep with a stranger. Like parents we have to protect are kids no matter what. And they exposed the kids only because M.J are famous really,for me that is sign for ambitious people waiting any excuse to make easy money. And i agree with Siva Barth FBI was involved and they never found M.J guilty
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom the parents are sooooo guilty because the kids are indefensible they depend to them parents and what they did? Let them ALONE for days o week with a stranger total stranger,really. And you cant compare somebody was taken by force and raped with some kids the own parents the guardians the person who supiste to protect you let you indefens and alone with stranger
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom the job of a parent is to protect their child. Them as a parent are able to determine where their child goes and when. Without the parent's permission, that would be kidnapping. Did the parent hand them over to him, or did he kidnap them, dear? Also, don't put words in my mouth. We gonna blame everybody, BUT the children. Have a Blessed day, boo.
Let the man rest in peace already. I don't believe he's guilty. If he was, then he's already paid for those sins by dying. Not saying it's right if it did happen, but he's dead. Nothing is gonna change.
Yes. Let’s never discuss Hitler’s wrongdoings cause he’s dead. History is literally a collection of terrible things dead people have done. This is such a moronic excuse.
Her show was a flop and so was that stupid ass fictional movie which they label as "documentary". The first part which aired on Sunday had less audience than the Real Housewives of Atlanta (on their worst season) and the last part had 750k viewers, which is absolutely LOW. Nobody gives a F about Dan Reed and his little perjurers. #LoveMJstill
HBO is going to be sued, and the MJ Legacy will be huge.Michael was found innocent, period. He was the most investigated entertainer in the history of hollywood ever!!!
He wasnt found innocent. He was found not guilty, and thats because he was rich and famous, he got really good lawyers, and he settled another case by paying 25 million. A normal guy would have gone to jail.
Michael Jakson Legacy is huge , he is the only artist everyone around the world knows even old Nomad ladies in my country somalia knows him that's how big Michael is , i went to Saudi and people love him , i went to Emerates people love him, i went to syria people love him , i went to malaysia people love him , people love him in China , people love him in Japan and people know Michael Jackson but no1 knows HBO . Rip micheal all the way from Africa (Somalia)
Child abuse particularly. You internalise, you tell your self stories, 'oh but he just loves me', you rationalise it 'oh but hes being so good to me otherwise, hes my hero' . You are so susceptile to your abuser manipulating you. Saying these guys are lieing because of inconsistencies is a complete and utter misunderstanding of how abuse can work and honestly quite ignorant and hearbreaking for the abused to listen to. Inconsistencies could mean lies, but often in child abuse cases, inconsistencies are a direct RESULT of the abuse. Why do you think they dont charge someone with purgery for recanting on a child abuse case???? Doesnt mean that there IS child abuse in the jackson case, but your logic as to why there is no child abuse is so flawed.
Niggiez SOME provable lies told by Robson & Safechuck Robson was MJ’s star witness in court in 2005 as an adult and under pressure he swore he was not molested and in television interviews before and after. Who would put someone that they have abused as a star witness?! Robson said in the documentary that Michael kept him away from and hate women when Michael had set him up with his niece Brandi Jackson and they dated for 7 years! Around the time he was allegedly molested. Robson burnt MJ’s clothes at the end of the doc but Juliens Auctions tweeted that he asked to remain anonymous when selling them in 2011-before he realized he was abused in 2013! Robson tried to sue Jackson’s estate in 2013 and the Judge threw the case out because of the statue of limitations and the judge also said that “no rational jury would believe him” as he changed his stories and was caught lying several times Safechuck said he was molested in Neverland’s train station between 1988-1992 when proof from newspapers have stated the the train station was made in 1993 & opened in 94 Safechuck said in 2005 he didn’t want to defend MJ and he said that MJ got angry with him and threatened him.Facts passed down from court documents state that the judge said there is no need for Safechuck as they already had 5 witnesses James Safechuck pieced together his allegations using Victor Gutierrez's pro pedophilia book proves he is not a victim but a liar Safechucks family were sued for millions weeks before he saw Wade Robson on tv in 2013 and remembered he was “abused” In the Doc Safechucks mother said when MJ died in 2009 she jumped up and down with happiness cause he died and can’t molest kids again when it wasn’t until 2013 that Safechuck realized he was molested on Oprah’s interview! Plus she said got out of bed when the announcement was on the news at 2:55pm 🤨 Safechuck said MJ molested him in LA at the Grammys,problem there is MJ wasn’t at the Grammys or didn’t even perform that year (1989) & the Grammys was on in NYC that year! Some more lies on uncovered on CZcams in “Lies of Neverland” including Robson’s witness statement from 2016 when he had different stories told before the “documentary” Let’s not forget the deceptive editing by Dan Reed to make it more convincing All proven facts and there’s more incl the Grand Canyon lie!
@@djjameshayes9766 you still havent responded to my point?? Abuse creates holes in peoples stories because they dont even know what their reality is. Why would he make an abuser his star witness? Because thats EXACTLY what a manipulator would do, given thet were confident in how deep their abuse had run. Im not denying that their facts dont neccessarily line up perfectly bro? Sprout out more facts like that and it wont change my postion in regards to how dumb your comment is. I am fully aware that their stories have been inconsistent and changing. My point is, that just because thats the case it doesnt prove there ISNT abuse, and that there isnt truth in what thet are saying. Now im not saying that this does prove there IS abuse and im not in any way saying theres proof beyond reasonable doubt to convict him. Im just saying your argument is demonstrating a fundamentally flawed understanding of how abuse works. If you truly understood it, you would realise why someone who has been abused may defend their own abuser, and why the abuser would have the audacity to choose their victim to defend them. The fact that you cant even comprehend that fact shoes to me that you arent able to understand the complexities of abuse and i need not waste any more breath trying to explain to you. Good day!
Oprah is full of BS. She was just getting to the point where people forgot about the way she manipulated and used Michael for her own success... and here she goes again. No more chances with me, Oprah. I’ve had it.
In an interview with Dave chappelle, she was so damn manipulative.... Ugh it was disgusting. Nobody, not even Oprah, becomes this big without getting their hands dirty.
L A she was one of the couple of people who got an interview from MJ. She was invited to his house, His studio, he gave her a tour. It was huge those times
Cause you knew him so much! Right? I knew of his brother Germaine and Germaine admitted he did molest boys but knew his brother could get away with it cause he is too high up and knows evil people who hid his documents. So stop defending a bad man cause your lust for his money and fame. Defend innocent children and babies first. Michael was also part of the sex trafficking with Epstein and killed children. Lust for money does that to people. He is more guilty than a homeless man. Celebrities are the worse humans. Cause they sold their souls to the devil. Stop defending evil people and picking your blindness over the reality of truth. Fairy tale isn’t real. Kids do get molested. And p diddy molested Justin Bieber. You going to attack Justin Bieber too?
MJ was not a junkie I don't believe he was a child molester either. He got hooked on prescription drugs in the 90s for legit pain. Happens to lots of people. And he died I believe because his handlers forced him to take prescription drugs he didn't want. A woman who says she was a close friend alleges Dr. Murray was selected against Michael's wishes and was making Jackson take additional drugs such as ambien in the daytime( which you are not supposed to take during the day) and he complained of chest pain and Murray told him not to worry about it. When she told Mike to take control, he said " I can't, not this time. The people that control everything can make it all go away this time ( referring to his concert and comeback). I believe her completely. Michael told several close friends " They are trying to kill me for my catalog." and they succeeded. I believe the prescription drugs Murray forced him to take weakened him and his heart and then Murray gave Jackson the propofol to sleep ( cause he really did have sleep issues) and then he simply walked away on purpose and let nature take its course. His demise was by design as were the accusations of molestation. Had he gone to jail they would have got his music catalog ( including the Beatles catalog and half of all music publishing in the industry). Well, he was found not guilty. So later he dies and they still get his music rights. Michael made a lot of enemies. The music industry is very crooked. Lots of people have been mysteriously murdered for decades in the music industry and I firmly believe Michael was too. They broke him, exploited his weaknesses and killed him.
Jessica C many reasons… money, to shut them up, they know something that the big guys behind the camera didn’t want them to know. Personally, I think Murray worked for them and was hired to get rid of Michael along with all the other obscure celebrity deaths.
If you look at Dan Reed's interview in France the psychologist even called him out on it and also let him know that real abuse survivors cannot describe like these 2 liars have described in the movie and people who are real abused don't go after money. It is not a documentary it is a one-sided movie
Ashitaka because I’m not arguing I’m insulting. This is stupid. R Kelly quite literally had a video of him pissing on a girl shown in court and got off. Paul manafort just got a 47 month sentence on a 20 year crime. A lot of these MJ supporters are the same niggas who are against the police treating working class and poor people being treated unfairly by the justice system
Ashitaka considering I strongly alluded to an unfair justice system on both sides, I thought you’d be able to st least figure the connection on your own especially given the examples. Even then I gave you too much credit damn
BEFORE you say that those 2 men in the documentary are lying. I'm just gonna leave this right here. This is a video of Latoya jackson, Michael's own sister exposing him. czcams.com/video/9_1tGqn4jXc/video.html
I’m not a Michael Jackson fan but you don’t have to be to understand and acknowledge that these to mean are just doing it for money .... I firmly believe Michael Jackson is truly innocent may his beautiful soul Rest In Peace .
Michael Jackson quotes: «I am very sensitive to their pain (due to his childhood)» «When I see children, I see the face of God» «I would slit my wrist befor I would. I would never, ever» «Children are my insperation. Every song I write, every dance I do» «And Jesus said to be like children. Be innocent and pure, honorble. That was how I was raised»
Jennifer Hyde with a 10 plus year investigation. No evidence AT ALL. All the lies and money grabs those 2 guys have done. Nah they’re a bunch of pathetic ass liars
And he slept in his bed with a 7 year old boy for 30 days! And he had a marriage ceremony with a boy with a ring and all (with photos of this and a diamond ring for evidence) Micheal ruined his face to the point where only a crazy person would do that. He had an alarm set up in the hallway leading to his room, just give me 1 reason why any single bachelor man would have that. Not to forget, where were the girlfriends??????? He never ever had a damn girlfriend for goodness sake. Stop the idolatry, Micheal was beloved by us all, the entire planet was enamored by him. So the hater narrative needs to stop. Explain this ridiculousness
He came on her show and lied the entire time back in the day. I think it was the interview with him and Presley girl. I remember Oprah saying she was disturbed by him basically bullshitting her on her platform.
@@fionathomson255 Oprah didn’t interview Lisa Marie, and that’s why people like you shouldn’t speak on things when you don’t even know what you’re talking about. You can’t even get your facts straight...bye 🤡 Also if you watch the Oprah and MJ interview, she was fangirling so hard over him behind the scenes. Also why isn’t Oprah talking about her friend Harvey Weinstein? Oprah is a hypocrite and she can’t be trusted.
Michael is innocent now and forever... I do not understand why people do not understand? He never hurt a child. He would never be able to do a such a thing. He is a wonderful beautiful and an amazing person that has ever existed in this world. He helped many people around the world... He saved the life of many children around the world. He just wanted to change this world in a best place. And these two boys defended him in many occasions,they said that Michael never touched them never and ever. He has a golden and also he has a heart of a child, his soul is that of a child. And the police in 1993 turned his house upside down and they found nothing for saying that Michael Jackson did this. They found absolutely nothing. And also in this documentary there are many places that did not exist when they say they have been harassed in these places. So he never hurt this two boys, they he never hurt a child. They lie. They are liars. Michael always told the truth about this crazy story. Do not watch this horrible and disgusting docunentary because it's a false. Do not listen to these crazy boys. Leaving Neverld it's a fake . And Michael is the only victim in this story. LEAVE HIM ALONE . HE IS INNOCENT. I know that he will win. These men can say and do everything they want... But they know that sooner or later the truth will come out. #JUSTICEFORMJ #JUSTICEFORMJ #JUSTICEFORMJ #MJ INNOCENT#MJINNOCENT#MJINNOCENT.
Wade Robson as a child has said Michael is innocent and that child molestation is sick. Now to defend himself when asked why didn't he say anything when Michael was alive, he says "I didn't know it was abuse" He also says that the reason why he testified under oath that Michael never touched him so that his kids won't be father less. But didn't he say he didn't realise it was abuse untill 2012? James safechuck says that he was abused at the train station in Neverland in 1992. But the train wasn't built untill 1994. It was approved in 1993. Wade Robson says that Michael gave him a wedding ring as a form of grooming. But that ring in particular was furnished untill 2009, Michaels death year. If you really want to believe these fools, go ahead. It's easy to believe bullshit when you only hear one side. Facts don't lie people do.
If Wade's testimony would have backfired on the stand at the time and he would said that he was molested, fans would of said he was lying then too. You just can't win with the powerful and rich.
@@arrivagabry it's clear you haven't done any research. I pity you. czcams.com/play/PLmirOw7JCi826i_J_xsWhtY7jh2sqIlpX.html czcams.com/video/m4trDbeFWTY/video.html
I'm only gonna say this once and I'm not going to go back and forth with any of you imbeciles. Let's get this straight Wade Robson and James safechuck were NEVER molested by michael Jackson and here's proof. I'm just going to say this before I get into any evidence. In October of 2009 Wade is 26 years old, he went to the Los Angeles premiere of This Is It.
In 2011, Robson approached John Branca co executor of MJ estate about directing the new Michael Jackson Cirque Du Soleil production ONE. Robson admitted h wanted the job so "badly" but the estate ultimately chose some one else for the position.Check out @mjchproject’s Tweet: twitter.com/mjchproject/status/1084005872861294594?s=09
he’s rotting in hell love take note people never have young boys in your bed because people will talk even if it’s not true about the abuse MJ was definitely a fucking case for having kids in his bed I believe he did do it shame he’s dead I’d love to see the bastard hang
Honestly, I didn’t watch the documentary because I didn’t know about it nor did I do want to because I feel like bringing all of this up now and he’s passed on is kind of disrespectful to his legacy and to his family !
If you knew the pain of being abused, the trauma, the way it breaks you, damages you, affects you spiritually, mentally, psychologically, emotionally and even physically. It takes YEARS for victims to speak about their experiences, and even longer to heal. Their stories, experiences NEED to be told and heard and respected no matter how many years ago it happened or if the perpetrator is dead or not. Can't believe you automatically feel sorry for a dead perpetrator without consideration for the alive victims still living with that pain.
@@MajesticMyronn And if he did do it and they're FINALLY letting the OTHER SIDE have a platform... then it's only right. The victims NEVER had a public platform like this. Michael did. For DECADES.
@@lovelyluminals3723 - Today, 03/21/2019 The Jacksons will perform in São Paulo. Michael's brothers know that the fans of the late singer are in large numbers in South America. I did not understand what the purposes of his concerts would be in some countries, including the United States, but they should be at home to keep up with the delicate moment which involves them. The hypothesis of "Leaving Neverland" ending up in a disappointment for the family should not be ruled out, as well as a win for Wade Robson and James Safechuck in court. Fans do not want to accept, but Michael Jackson is considered a suspect!
It's a joke. There's so much information that the public doesn't know - doesn't bother to find out. www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/
@Veair There's a disclaimer right at the beginning. It's to bring context. Disclaimer: this article is not intended as a review of Leaving Neverland, which I have not seen, but rather of the context behind the allegations in the documentary.
Wade Robson doesn’t have the attitude of a real victim of sex abuse. Real victim from sex abuse doesn’t beg to be a part of a tribute concerning his rapist, doesn’t ’t imagine his own kid being molested, doesn't harass kids who befriended his rapist, doesn’t ’t praise and defend his rapist for years. When I saw videos where Wade said that MJ was his inspiration in life and he wouldn’t be a dancer if it was for MJ, I could see the sincerity in his eyes whereas in his recent interviews when he’s claiming that MJ molested him as a kid I saw no emotions from Wade. Plus, his story that MJ would have forced him to defend him back in 2005 knowing that MJ molested him doesn’t make any sense. Child abuser would never take the risk to ask one of his victims to be his witness in court. Wade is acting like a shameless sociopath by pretending to be molested by MJ and using real victims of sexual abuse. It seems that Wade wants to blame MJ for his career crisis and anxiety because he doesn’t want to learn from his failures. Wade's breakdowns are due to the fact he refused to acknowledge that he suffered from depression and the Robson's family had a long history of mental illness like depression. Wade Robson said that Leaving Neverland was made for survivors of sexual abuse. If it was really for survivor of sexual abuse, he would apologise to Gavin Arvizo, stop harassing kids who befriended MJ and said that Brett Barnes and Macaulay Culkin were molested by MJ whereas they always denied to have been molested by MJ and he wouldn't keep on his CZcams's account videos related to MJ. Jimmy Safechuck and Wade Robson stories have a lot of similarities with Victor Gutierrez's book (a pedophile apologist and NAMBLA member. Wade Robson also said that MJ was jealous of Wade's girlfriends whereas MJ was the one who introduced Wade to his nieces. Wade dated Brandi Jackson for 7 years. It was MJ who set them up back in 91’-92’, when all of the supposed abuse was going on. His story about being in love with MJ and not to realize he was sexually abused doesn't make sense.
Different topic, not related to the Documentary but it always confuses me when they upload videos from different shows in one day. All these outfit changes, lol.
& I hope that they'll upload the whole show or the whole Girl Chat - segment at once. I'm annoyed by these short clips, lol, especially the one minute ones.
Funny cos Michael Jackson himself refused to take a polygraph test in the 90's. He was being offered a million dollars to answer 10 questions and refused.
Well idc who they are in general if they have money and people accusing them of anything it’s hard to trust Some people just want money. . it’s happened before just saying It’s all common sense when you know someone is doing something wrong, they were all above the age of 6 I’m pretty sure they knew right from wrong To me is unbelievable that they just realized that once they were in there 30s and had kids of their own 🤷🏻♀️
bep4ever97bp why on earth are you bringing Elvis into this he didn’t go near his ex wife till she was old enough fact MJ on the other hand was sleeping with very young boys get your story straight
My thoughts exactly‼ When we know that in AMERIKKKA, no black men will get away to sexually assault and abuse white little boys‼ Some black men went to jaill life sentences for less than that😤😢
His own sister exposed him!!! His mother called him a faggot!!! What grown man allows little boys to stay in his room on his bed for weeks at a time?????? He was obviously mentally ill. Stop being blind.
LuneyTune72 I also did my research. I’m not one to jump on the outrage train without understanding why I believe something. Long story short just because you are let go or someone reverses their statement that does not mean you are innocent. Additionally there is something very very wrong with an adult man sleeping with children.
@@thomascamprand CPS allowed him to keep all his children around him, cause he was molesting and abusing children is that your story and you sticking to it?
If we strip back the love and loyalty we have for the icon and see him as a man we can agree his mannerisms and behavior would set off reg flags the size of Texas. Someone can be a great father, friend, son and have an amazing career but still have a dark side. People are complex.
YESS!I literally just said this in reply to somebody else's comment. Just because you're one thing don't mean you can't be the other. In fact what makes paedophilia even scarier is that they are the most charming, hardworking, smart, child loving and revolutionary people that you will ever know! It's insane.
I understand your point of view, but please allow me to ask you to look at this with an open heart and clear mind. Michael Jackson has been the most "famous" human in the world for 40 years now. He was also a black American, who broke many barriers in the industry, became the richest, most successful and admired person with a massive fan following on every continent that transcended race, age, colour, culture and creed. His entire life was lived in a fish bowl, no privacy anywhere in the world, and the people and media scrutinizing his every move and action. His friendship with children was always well known. Do you think it was even possible to commit such heinous crimes, not once or twice but over so many years without leaving behind EVEN ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE..? The FBI investigated him for 10 years, the files can be accessed by anyone on internet. Not 1 evidence. A humiliating strip search was done on his body. Not 1 evidence. The prosecution and media( Both tabloid and mainstream) offered money to numerous kids who had visited Neverland, many with their families, many alone, luring, forcing and intimidating them to speak against MJ, but not even ONE of them said there had been any wrong doing, instead they only had praises for his goodness and big heart. Over the years, his generosity had been taken advantage of by shrewd, cunning, gold-diggers and crazy extortion attempts were always being made. The 2005 trial proved his innocence beyond the shadow of a doubt and it was clear that it was MJ who was the real victim. Thousands of people, children, employees who have spent time at Neverland, and ANYONE who has known him personally for either 4 minutes, or 4 decades has the same opinion about him.. that he was the sweetest, kindest, most humble, gracious and loving human, full of compassion for the needy, very funny and childlike, honest, truthful, had integrity and grace and always felt that as someone blessed with " God-given " talent, he had a responsibility to use it to make the world a better place. And his real fans or admirers are those millions of people around the world who have been fortunate to look beyond the ARTIST/SUPERSTAR/CELEBRITY persona to know and deeply appreciate the real Michael Jackson- a humanitarian of epic proportions. Please do only a bit of research and you will find that he gave away more than 350 million dollars to charity, funded treatments, constructed parks, installed hospital machines, provided scholarships and what not. He even features in the Guinness Book of World records for having funded the greatest number of charities, 39, throughout his life. And the few grifters and gold diggers who tried to malign his name by false allegations were all liars, motivated by shameless greed and their 15 min of fame. Their lives and past conduct with other people prove their deceitful intent, complete lack of credibility and low moral compass. These two liars in the so called documentary, who earlier swore on oath that nothing was ever wrong, that MJ was the kindest person who inspired and helped them like a big brother, now turn against him and lie when they have no career, are broke, and have failed to extort a billion dollars from the MJ Estate because a court threw their stupid, baseless allegations.. and the irresponsible TRP driven media and actual rapists like media mogul Harvey Weinstein are supporting such despicable liars to spread the sleaze, either to up their ratings or to distract attention from real pedophiles infesting Hollywood. The media killed Michael Jackson with its lies, slander, libel and hate campaigns relentlessly and shamelessly targeted against him for decades because he was different, and hence an easy target who could be misinterpreted, misrepresented by the media and as a result, misunderstood by the gullible public that didnt even know it was being manipulated and brainwashed by the unethical mass media. His reclusive was used against him to create salacious scandals and sell false news. It is happening still. What a shame, that the man who was not only one of the greatest artists, but also the greatest humanitarians to walk this world, inspiring millions to be the best versions of themselves, is being crucified still..even in death.. On behalf of mankind, we are sorry, Michael.. may your legacy be your glorious music, your genuine humanity and the inspiration you continue to be to those who are carrying out your mission of healing the world by staying childlike, loving, innocent, forgiving and courageous, just like you taught..spreading their light in a dark and desolate world..
@@annies2077 it is most definitely a possibility that MJ is innocent and these men are lying. But equally, you also need to be open minded and realise that MJ is this great man who still could have done those horrible things. When it comes to sexual abuse, you literally can never put it past anyone. I speak from experience. The man that abused me when I was a kid is the most loved man in my family. He is deeply respected. My family is not rich but he has worked his butt off to send so many of our family members to school, provided food, housing etc for so many relatives. He's the cool Uncle that everybody loves. He's charming, very intelligent, hard working, caring, etc. He actually loved children as well having 7 of his own. He is all that AND a paedophile. When I finally came out after 2 yrs, loads of people didn't believe me, I have lost family because they think I'm trying to tarnish his name. I get why it's difficult for them to believe me, it's the same reasons you find it difficult to consider MJ was guilty. I went to university studied Criminology with Psychology and I learnt that paedophiles tend to be these great role models with a dark hidden side. So from personal experience and university, you literally can never say so and so could never have done that because there is every possibility they have. About the evidence thing - in the UK sexual abuse has the lowest rate of conviction. Only 2% of the 100,000+ cases reported and taken to court actually end in conviction. Most don't due to lack of evidence. It's difficult to find evidence when it comes to abuse especially when victims take yrs to finally come out. MJ could have easily payed off the FBI. I am open minded that he might be innocent but you need to be open minded that he might not. Though I apprreciate you taking your time to reply me, you have gone to great lengths to defend a man you didn't actually know and you weren't at Neverland. So at the end of the day you can never be so confident that he didn't do it.
As someone who has gone through this and is STILL ashamed to speak up or out about it, you never know a person's situation and assuming you have all answers as to why a victim is most likely lying is either because you have never been through it with someone so loved and close to you that you can hurt so many people by speaking up or you are just that strong and handled it differently. Everyone is different, I chose not to speak up but I raised my kids not trusting them to ANYONE, AND to this day I still have to see the people who did this to me, but I keep it to myself instead of causing family issues for the family members I love. It is not fair to assume or judge either way unless you were in those rooms.
Idk if Michael is guilty or not- all I know is that it was extremely weird that a GROWN man was hanging around little kids. There’s absolutely no excuse for that to have had happened.
Michael loved children & was a child at heart because he never had a "childhood" & he felt like he missed out that. That's why he loved being around kids
I hate to see comments like this bc one I’m a True mj fan and I know for sure it not weird b if you seen his childhood or even heard his song childhood you will know that michael never had one and by michael building never land it was for him to re live it and like michael loved kids like to the point wear he rather slice his wrist before doing ANYTHING to a child and ima need people to realize this image not having a childhood bc you have to make music for people to listen to how would that make you feel michael couldn’t every go outside b he always had to go to the studio and just to give you a heads up michael is innocent and was found not guilty for every charge that the gave him
It is weird that he did hang around children but I do not believe he saw them as sexual pleasures, more so vicariously living through them because of his childhood. He was childlike himself. A grown man wanting to be a boy again, doing boyish things.
Ferren Barnwell the children was the only people that understood him and like I don’t blame him for hangi around kids bc like michael been around adults ever since he started singing around 5 and beyond so like him with children was like a Miracle bc he felt like a lil 7 year old when he was around him
Ferren Barnwell them* but also everybody know michael was a child like person so him around kids wasn’t weird like you telling me u being around ur children or any children is weird bc u a grown adult
Also they've had five years at least to practice their lines for this movie and it is awfully similar to the lines from the fiction book of Victor Gutierrez.
Yeah, they didn’t need to be payed for that interview anyways since they are suing the estate for hundreds of millions. The only corruption here is from Harpo
Wade is supposed to be appealing the lawsuit suing the jackson estate for 1.5 billion. Of course making this doc is gonna stand in his favour, hmmm money grabbers..
Elaine M and I’m wondering how the Real wasnt able to find out this info vs just depending on the directors statement... 🤦🏾♀️ this all is just a mess.
Known lairs, heck even in small details. Like the Indiana Jones bull whip was donated to the institute of archaeology in london in 1990, and then the euro disney honeymoon in 1988 even though it opened in 1992...Also the money... This docu is made so that in court they will have an easier path to walk to get that 100 million from the family estate
It's scary how people defend a criminal once he's reached a certain level of popularity and vilify the children who were the victims. Sick society ‼️ They are like cultists blindly following their guru. There is so much that speaks against him, that alarm bells should be ringing for everyone.
It's actually called "Leaving Neverland"....not "Escaping Neverland" lmao. And I seriously think not one of these people even bothered to watch it never mind the idiots in the comments below.
MJs parents are to blame for the way MJ was... :( MJ was the most amazing man tho ... You know Omer OBee the norwegian ( Im from Norway and I live here ) boy who lived with MJ ? Ive talked with him about MJ after MJ died... and Obee was truly devastated.... and had nothing but good things to say about MJ.. and OBee STILL flies over to be with MJs family... years after MJs death... I trust OBee more than those money hungry awful men
How is this different than r Kelly? He was exonerated from his charges as well but people now, 20 years finally believe he’s guilty. People still aren’t ready to believe Michael is guilty, this panel of women included. Young children sleeping in the bed of a grown man with no parents around never sat well with me, if it were anyone but Michael Jackson, people would be quick to say it’s vile and that there had to have been something going on. But because he’s so beloved people don’t want to believe it. But this isn’t any different than what’s going on right now with r Kelly, it’s the same type of abuse allegations.
I think people always believed R.Kelly was guilty. However These girls willingly had sex with him that why people didn’t care as much. They were sleeping with him like grown women.
@@1love847 you're very sick for immediately equating sleeping over at someones house to having sex. I hope you don't have kids and if you do, I sure as hell hope they don't live with you!
hnljojoilbvtgfyvgub I personally believe they lied, my belief comes from the FBI, The courts and Robson’s and Safechucks constant changing of the story
Did you watch this documentary? That fbi thing is the most passed around ish that basically shows no one has actually watched it. What evidence were they supposed to get? DNA? How? VIdeo footage at the moment he molests??? HOW?? Even Corey Feldman friends with MJ as a little boy is now retracting his support for Michael after finally seeing the film
I believe the accusers. I was sexually assaulted when I was 6 years old and there was a time I had denied it as well because I was coached to say so. I am very uncomfortable with so many people calling these accusers "known liars" when there is a lot of mental aspects people don't understand about child molestation. Denying something that happened in your childhood and then later recanting does not automatically mean the person is lying. It can mean that the person has finally come to terms with what happened to them. I'm 26 years old and it took me almost 15 years for me to finally admit what happened to me to just my mom. For some people it takes longer and I have no idea the kind of courage it takes to admit such a thing to the entire world. Trying to hold on to the legacy of Michael Jackson because you're a fan of his music does not negate the fact that michael faced these accusations for 20+ years and was ultimately able to beat the system because he was rich, not unlike r kelly. And my heart breaks for his victims because if you were to ask me today, 20 years later to prove I was molested, at the age when I couldn't even understand what was happening to me much less have the foresight and self awareness to gather evidence I couldn't be able to prove it in a court of law at all, all I can do is tell my story the way these guys are doing now. NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVE IT DOES NOT MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I think that Michael Jackson is one of the most iconic legends of all time. I've loved listening to and growing up with him. I loved his music, but there is no song good enough for me to overlook the abuse of children. I can't ignore what I saw in that documentary, especially the testimonies of these men that are so detailed, specific, and seem so authentic. I just have a feeling they are not lying.
10 YEARS That's how long Michael was investigated by the FBI; yet they found nothing, no evidence. That's not the case with Harvey Weinstein, Cosby, RKelly etc.
chelecovers I could not agree with you more. People who haven’t been through something like sexual abuse as a child may not understand why it often takes people so long to come forward about it, especially if they’ve been brainwashed and told not to. I’ve been studying psychology for many years now and I can say when something traumatic like that happens to a child, especially in this particular situation, there’s often some form of denial and repression that happens and I’m not surprised they took so long to come forward about it. While it’s very sad someone we all have known and loved for a long time has these accusations against them, we can’t just call the victims liars because we don’t want to see MJ in a negative light
Was it a dumb move for Michael to have all these kids at his house by themselves as well as sleep in the same bed with him? YES! MAJORLY DUMB🤦🏽♀️ But do I believe he ever did anything to hurt them? No. The man was a big kid himself...that’s why he never saw anything wrong with it. He was simply trying to live out the childhood he never got, as well as give it to other kids. The end.
If the nicest man in your neighbourhood wanted your 10 year old son to sleep in his bed with him because he didn’t get the childhood he wanted, would you let him go?
Who said anything about being on board?! If I found out my child was in bed with ANY man, I will be FURIOUS!!!! I never said that I wouldn’t be. Having those kids in bed with him, in his home without extra pairs of ears and eyes was STUPID. Michael brought all this heat upon himself. I simply stated my opinion on whether or not I believe he actually sexually assaulted them.
If the man was "a big kid himself" why, when Neverland was raided in 2003, was "a sizable amount of adult heterosexual pornography" seized? How many kids do you know that have a large collection of hardcore pornography?
I Remember when Michael Jackson said they said that they would say that he raped and abused kids or blackmail him just for money and now that's his not here he still getting bashed smh he never did anything wrong!
he would have been arrested with what evidence .... Are you stupid or what? He went to court in 2005 and these two men defended him!! but YOU SAID NO The people who testified must have been paid, no the jury must have been paid... oh no the Judge must have been paid!! But now, these two people who defended MJ in 2005 (but you didn't believe them) come out and say "Oh he actually molested us" and YOU BELIEVE THEM!!!!,?????????????????????????? WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE THEM BACK THEN? CAUSE YOU ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO!! Stupid people out there !
They weren’t compensated by Dan reed but an important thing to mention is that they tried to sue the estate for 1.5 billion in damages which was thrown out based on a limitation period bc michael had been dead for too long, and after this documentary aired they appealed that case and the law has now actually been changed so there is a good chance it will go to trial... this is far from over, folks!
Yeah and they neither lie too...Which sexual abuse victim defends and dances on his abuser's songs? And then suddenly comes out of nowhere to accuse the same person whom he defended hundreds of times..And tht too only after his abuser died?? Rather than going to the court who sues the estate first?
These children should not have been shoved at Michael Jackson. These men were in love with Michael, they just wanted to be in his light no matter what. They were victims.
They have gotten so much publicity from all of this for years. Imagine how much shows have paid for them just to come on their show and speak about the allegations they made. Even if they state they haven't recieved any compensation from Michael, they can't deny they haven't sold their story well multiples times on various different platforms. Michael was too child like to have done something as cruel and deadly as they claim. Just by discussing intimate topics, Michael would become very clearly uncomfortable. If you watch old documentaries its also very clear he even had his children, just to have children and become a father. Not to hold any kind of relationship with anyone. He was a man who was not driven by lust. He was driven by love. Something he lacked. He was a kid at heart. People need to leave the poor man alone.
I had no thoughts on it. Because I refused to watch it, and I was disappointed that it was even put on air in the first place. All of these years after he have passed away. Smh!
I LOVE that Loni does her research/ knows the background of topics before giving her opinion. REALEST correspondent on the REAL!
I LOVE LONI! She’s very smart! 😊
NFRT LABEL me tooo!! I wouldn’t watch The Real if she wasn’t on it
Brittani Lloyd Yes! I love her as she spoke about the Jorydan Woods and Khloé Kardashian situation she keep it REAL!!!!
Felice MA LOVED when they discussed that. She flat out said “y’all didn’t watch The Red Table Talk” in other words everyone has an opinion on this subject based on 30 seconds clips posted on social media
Agree
I agree with Loni. Those aren't good parents at all.
You know who else not a good parent MJ for being a rapist
So that made it ok for Michael to do what he did??? You’re as sick as he was.
It’s easy for people to get manipulated especially if the approach is friendly and trusting
If all of you spent 10 minutes to research the facts you would not be calling MJ and rapist or talking about the parents. Wade Robson has been trying to make money off MJ in life and death. He tried to get the job as the choreographer for MJs tribute tours but didn’t get it. Ever since then he changes his story. Has went to civil court to ask for settlements but has not taking or to criminal court because there is no evidence.
Steven Turner You know who else isn’t a good parent? Your mother for giving birth to you! 😑 MJ is And will always be innocent.
I really feel it for Jeanie, with all of these accusations coming out it’s she’s constantly having to re-live her traumatic experiences. Props to you Jeanie for constantly being strong, it doesn’t go unnoticed.
I didn't fuking notice that's for sure
I noticed. I also noticed that the other ladies spoke up before her, even though she's the one who has experience with it so probably has the most to say. But I guess that way she can have more time to talk at the end.
Exactly it’s sad
@@rtmusicvideos431 Jeannie should speak up then tf she is grown
@@person8520 Yes Jeannie might be grown but she is also a grown adult who has been through tremendous trauma. It was probably very difficult to speak on the situation since it personally happened to her for years.
How come she didn't interview Harvey Weinstein's victims!?!
Because that’s Oprah’s friend, silly! Let’s prosecute a dead exonerated Afro-American man instead! Yaay, progress!
Molesting innocent children is a much different than molesting 20 year old women it made a choice to sleep with him get a clue idiot
Stop deflecting, Harvey Weinstein has already been torn appart left and right, not even bones are left
Steve Harvey 😂😂😂
Isabel Majugo what does that have to do with anything? I feel like it’s such a ridiculous come back, lol. Like it’s her job to interview every single subject? She did this one because it spoke to her and she wanted to share their stories. And good for her for doing so. Ridiculous to think because she hasn’t interviewed every person surrounding any sexual accusations that somehow makes this one illegitimate.
These two guys have been suing the Estate for millions of dollars since 2013. They lost twice and are currently on appeal. A LOT of money is in play.
Safechuck's case was dismissed maybe a week ago! 1 down now we only have Wade
Agree.. and I dunno how much amount they get for coniving with this poor and fallacious docu.. not watching Leaving Neverland anyway. Watch LOVING NEVERLAND INSTEAD.
@@udontknowmyname8714 Wade's case dismissed again... Dont know when they'll stop
Money being involved and going for justice doesn't mean mj did nothing or anything...many victims like murderer families And rape victims were compensated that doesn't mean incidents didn't occur...just think replacing 2 boys here with girls..the world would have been fumed..it doesn't matter how great mj is if he did mistake....Thats it
@@krishnasimhavemulapalli7124 Yes it does. If my kid was abused, I wouldn’t want the abuser’s money nor any money from said abuser’s insurance. I would want this person in jail. No amount of money will ever make them forget their abuse. And if you do you research, you’ll know that these allegations started of as an extortion scheme and it has been proven countless times that MJ did not do it.
If you are willing to do research, watch the “Square One” documentary on CZcams, it breaks down the 1993 allegations and what really went down behind the scenes. These allegations have been false from day 1 but the media wants you to believe otherwise.
EVERYBODY DO YOUR RESEARCH, I believed Wade and James at first and for a few days but after seeing the other side (which they didn’t even show) I now definitely don’t believe them
Not trying to be funny. But why did you believe them in the first place?
@@ladennayoung2939 it's easy to gravitate towards one side when you've only heard their side of the story and not the other
Frida Kokk Same here! I believed it at first but There are are so many inconsistencies in the “Mocumentary”- countless videos refuting all the bs that they spewed.
i’m forever grateful that u did ur research as it reveals so much evidence to support michaels innocence. i just wish the whole world knew all the evidence.
@@ladennayoung2939 The media has literally put so much time and effort into making Michael Jackson out to look like a predator. That’s why when he was found not guilty on all 14 charges, the general public was shocked. Real MJ fans and people who did their research weren’t shocked.
You guys are so irresponsible for not mentioning that these two perjuers have been suing for years and failed each time.
Please leave him alone and let him rest smh
Yea really!
Amber Maxwell there is no evidence so stfu
Amber Maxwell you’re stupid af🤦🏽♀️
Amber Maxwell Bitch please where’s the proof?
@@amberm7116 there's hundreds of videos on CZcams that debunk evry word those tow clowns said with prof and prof they are fucked up non trust worthy ppl and that their families are bankrupt and in debt so.... Maybe go watch those before looking like a clown....
Stop coming for the "kids" and come.for the parents.
👏👏👏👏👏bravo. I agree with you. After i divorced i never let my kids sleep and my ex house because he share the house with friends whos i don't know. So i don't understood this parents let them kids with a total stranger. Parents only want money and now this guys too
Aloha in 10+ years of investigation, not one proof that proves him guilty.. so just because people accuse him, don’t just believe it... they’re probably doing it for money... just let the man rest in peace
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom How about that parents never let them kids sleep with a stranger. Like parents we have to protect are kids no matter what. And they exposed the kids only because M.J are famous really,for me that is sign for ambitious people waiting any excuse to make easy money. And i agree with Siva Barth FBI was involved and they never found M.J guilty
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom the parents are sooooo guilty because the kids are indefensible they depend to them parents and what they did? Let them ALONE for days o week with a stranger total stranger,really. And you cant compare somebody was taken by force and raped with some kids the own parents the guardians the person who supiste to protect you let you indefens and alone with stranger
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom the job of a parent is to protect their child. Them as a parent are able to determine where their child goes and when. Without the parent's permission, that would be kidnapping. Did the parent hand them over to him, or did he kidnap them, dear?
Also, don't put words in my mouth. We gonna blame everybody, BUT the children. Have a Blessed day, boo.
Let the man rest in peace already. I don't believe he's guilty. If he was, then he's already paid for those sins by dying. Not saying it's right if it did happen, but he's dead. Nothing is gonna change.
True hun
Ridiculous comment what about the others?
Yes. Let’s never discuss Hitler’s wrongdoings cause he’s dead. History is literally a collection of terrible things dead people have done. This is such a moronic excuse.
This goes to show you, people will believe anything if you package it right.
For real
Facts. People love to give opinions but don’t do proper research
Of course. That’s why the documentary was made as psychologically manipulative. That’s the trick into making people believe propagandas and lies.
More facts point towards guilt than innocent
@@belladonna5904 lol how?? I'll be waiting if you have any proof
Oprah is cancelled. This man is innocent. Let him rest in peace damn.
'that is not a court of law it's a documentary' exactly!
Even FBI investigation couldn't find a single evidence.
My point exactly
Like libertarian with voter suppression
They found the adult mags when searching Mike's home during the court case
Okay and...? He was an adult man, plenty of guys have adult magazines that doesn't prove anything. @@denamartinez9005
enough incriminating evidence means evidence that can lead to incriminate him, that doesn't mean they have no leads or evidence.
Been to Neverland as a kid. Better than Disney. Hands down. Would take my kids if I could
Watch Brandi Jacksons interview on soundcloud. Wade is a liar
Its so painful for MJ's family and kids to watch this , not letting his soul rest in peace .
Hope the sick peodophile rots in hell and if you defend him you're as sick as he is
He's Dead the "Soul" is Your Mind Will and Emotions He's Dead He Feels Nothing
Ophra would defend an ant as long as she's getting her ratings and sponsorship
Well she made a mistake here.People love MJ ..Oprah my ass.Now she will swallow her words
Her show was a flop and so was that stupid ass fictional movie which they label as "documentary".
The first part which aired on Sunday had less audience than the Real Housewives of Atlanta (on their worst season) and the last part had 750k viewers, which is absolutely LOW. Nobody gives a F about Dan Reed and his little perjurers.
#LoveMJstill
Monique and Miko Grimes tried to tell y'all about Oprah!
I agree. Okra is getting on my nerves.
....say that again!!
I will never watch it
I honestly don't know why people watched in the first place
You wouldn’t of wanted to watch it anyway it’s was complete and utter bullshit the mum and dads should be ashamed of themselves!
I watched it so I wasn't biased on Michael's part. It was fuckin gross. If it was real, it wouldn't be that detailed. It's not worth it. Trust me.
kendrick schwartz period same here! Thought I was alone! Glad I am not! ❤️
Ugly Barnacle agreed!
Ugly Barnacle You sound straight brain dead.
HBO is going to be sued, and the MJ Legacy will be huge.Michael was found innocent, period. He was the most investigated entertainer in the history of hollywood ever!!!
He wasnt found innocent. He was found not guilty, and thats because he was rich and famous, he got really good lawyers, and he settled another case by paying 25 million. A normal guy would have gone to jail.
Michael Jakson Legacy is huge , he is the only artist everyone around the world knows even old Nomad ladies in my country somalia knows him that's how big Michael is , i went to Saudi and people love him , i went to Emerates people love him, i went to syria people love him , i went to malaysia people love him , people love him in China , people love him in Japan and people know Michael Jackson but no1 knows HBO . Rip micheal all the way from Africa (Somalia)
tubester4567 6ix9ine
@@nasirfadhiyare5060 what does this have to do with anything? That you love someone doesn't make them morally sound.
OJ got off too.....so?
I wish people let MJ Rest In Peace.
I know right he’s been dead for almost ten years they still talking about him like he’s still alive
Aloha they didn’t find that. That’s false.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom lol what's your problem
no idea and did anybody ask for you’re opinion no so shut up
Aloha no they didn’t they found absolutely nothing they investigated him for 12 years and found nothing to prove he was a child molester
He aint do it. PERIODT!
Queen L Nice umm you don’t know that I’m sure you wasn’t there .
giselle gomez you don’t know either
PERIOD
Periodt.
Queen L Nice would u say that if he wasint mj ?
I'll take the bitter truth over a sweet lie anyday
MAD BUDDHA Exactly, it has to be said
You don't know that the documentary is the truth, it's 4 hours of brainwashing without an evidence!
@@danseabreeze1404 the irony
MAD BUDDHA yeah one sided documentary is the answer
Gla ZeD I believe that when u cn prove it
Leaving Neverland is full of holes and different from the truth
No the problem is Michael Jackson's pants are full of holes
I stand by Michael Jackson
I do too
Maybe you can stand by R. Kelly as well.
100%
Always by the King until he is proved to be guilty. Which ain't happening
@@Redef1ned cheese n chalk...
You guys should interview Brandi and Taj Jackson to bring light to their side.
Too many lies and inconsistencies these guys are not credible. I don’t believe it! MY OPINION!!!
Rowan G Your opinion is 💯 correct and I’ve researched a lot on all cases including this bullshit circus
You seriously dont understand how abuse works. Truly delusional.
Child abuse particularly. You internalise, you tell your self stories, 'oh but he just loves me', you rationalise it 'oh but hes being so good to me otherwise, hes my hero' . You are so susceptile to your abuser manipulating you. Saying these guys are lieing because of inconsistencies is a complete and utter misunderstanding of how abuse can work and honestly quite ignorant and hearbreaking for the abused to listen to. Inconsistencies could mean lies, but often in child abuse cases, inconsistencies are a direct RESULT of the abuse. Why do you think they dont charge someone with purgery for recanting on a child abuse case???? Doesnt mean that there IS child abuse in the jackson case, but your logic as to why there is no child abuse is so flawed.
Niggiez SOME provable lies told by Robson & Safechuck
Robson was MJ’s star witness in court in 2005 as an adult and under pressure he swore he was not molested and in television interviews before and after. Who would put someone that they have abused as a star witness?!
Robson said in the documentary that Michael kept him away from and hate women when Michael had set him up with his niece Brandi Jackson and they dated for 7 years! Around the time he was allegedly molested.
Robson burnt MJ’s clothes at the end of the doc but Juliens Auctions tweeted that he asked to remain anonymous when selling them in 2011-before he realized he was abused in 2013!
Robson tried to sue Jackson’s estate in 2013 and the Judge threw the case out because of the statue of limitations and the judge also said that “no rational jury would believe him” as he changed his stories and was caught lying several times
Safechuck said he was molested in Neverland’s train station between 1988-1992 when proof from newspapers have stated the the train station was made in 1993 & opened in 94
Safechuck said in 2005 he didn’t want to defend MJ and he said that MJ got angry with him and threatened him.Facts passed down from court documents state that the judge said there is no need for Safechuck as they already had 5 witnesses
James Safechuck pieced together his allegations using Victor Gutierrez's pro pedophilia book proves he is not a victim but a liar
Safechucks family were sued for millions weeks before he saw Wade Robson on tv in 2013 and remembered he was “abused”
In the Doc Safechucks mother said when MJ died in 2009 she jumped up and down with happiness cause he died and can’t molest kids again when it wasn’t until 2013 that Safechuck realized he was molested on Oprah’s interview! Plus she said got out of bed when the announcement was on the news at 2:55pm 🤨
Safechuck said MJ molested him in LA at the Grammys,problem there is MJ wasn’t at the Grammys or didn’t even perform that year (1989) & the Grammys was on in NYC that year!
Some more lies on uncovered on CZcams in “Lies of Neverland” including Robson’s witness statement from 2016 when he had different stories told before the “documentary”
Let’s not forget the deceptive editing by Dan Reed to make it more convincing
All proven facts and there’s more incl the Grand Canyon lie!
@@djjameshayes9766 you still havent responded to my point?? Abuse creates holes in peoples stories because they dont even know what their reality is. Why would he make an abuser his star witness? Because thats EXACTLY what a manipulator would do, given thet were confident in how deep their abuse had run. Im not denying that their facts dont neccessarily line up perfectly bro? Sprout out more facts like that and it wont change my postion in regards to how dumb your comment is. I am fully aware that their stories have been inconsistent and changing. My point is, that just because thats the case it doesnt prove there ISNT abuse, and that there isnt truth in what thet are saying. Now im not saying that this does prove there IS abuse and im not in any way saying theres proof beyond reasonable doubt to convict him. Im just saying your argument is demonstrating a fundamentally flawed understanding of how abuse works. If you truly understood it, you would realise why someone who has been abused may defend their own abuser, and why the abuser would have the audacity to choose their victim to defend them. The fact that you cant even comprehend that fact shoes to me that you arent able to understand the complexities of abuse and i need not waste any more breath trying to explain to you. Good day!
Oprah is full of BS. She was just getting to the point where people forgot about the way she manipulated and used Michael for her own success... and here she goes again. No more chances with me, Oprah. I’ve had it.
For her own success? How?
In an interview with Dave chappelle, she was so damn manipulative.... Ugh it was disgusting. Nobody, not even Oprah, becomes this big without getting their hands dirty.
L A she was one of the couple of people who got an interview from MJ. She was invited to his house, His studio, he gave her a tour. It was huge those times
Still waiting for some actual evidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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LEAVE MICHAEL JACKSON ALONE
Cause you knew him so much!
Right? I knew of his brother Germaine and Germaine admitted he did molest boys but knew his brother could get away with it cause he is too high up and knows evil people who hid his documents.
So stop defending a bad man cause your lust for his money and fame.
Defend innocent children and babies first.
Michael was also part of the sex trafficking with Epstein and killed children. Lust for money does that to people. He is more guilty than a homeless man. Celebrities are the worse humans. Cause they sold their souls to the devil.
Stop defending evil people and picking your blindness over the reality of truth.
Fairy tale isn’t real.
Kids do get molested.
And p diddy molested Justin Bieber.
You going to attack Justin Bieber too?
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MJ was not a junkie I don't believe he was a child molester either. He got hooked on prescription drugs in the 90s for legit pain. Happens to lots of people. And he died I believe because his handlers forced him to take prescription drugs he didn't want. A woman who says she was a close friend alleges Dr. Murray was selected against Michael's wishes and was making Jackson take additional drugs such as ambien in the daytime( which you are not supposed to take during the day) and he complained of chest pain and Murray told him not to worry about it. When she told Mike to take control, he said " I can't, not this time. The people that control everything can make it all go away this time ( referring to his concert and comeback). I believe her completely. Michael told several close friends " They are trying to kill me for my catalog." and they succeeded. I believe the prescription drugs Murray forced him to take weakened him and his heart and then Murray gave Jackson the propofol to sleep ( cause he really did have sleep issues) and then he simply walked away on purpose and let nature take its course. His demise was by design as were the accusations of molestation. Had he gone to jail they would have got his music catalog ( including the Beatles catalog and half of all music publishing in the industry). Well, he was found not guilty. So later he dies and they still get his music rights. Michael made a lot of enemies. The music industry is very crooked. Lots of people have been mysteriously murdered for decades in the music industry and I firmly believe Michael was too. They broke him, exploited his weaknesses and killed him.
this is scary . But why could someone murder him pr any other musician ?
Jessica C many reasons… money, to shut them up, they know something that the big guys behind the camera didn’t want them to know. Personally, I think Murray worked for them and was hired to get rid of Michael along with all the other obscure celebrity deaths.
@@camillehardy5529 thanks for the clarification but you know sometimes my curious ass wants to know what kind of info do these celebrities know
Jessica C I honestly think they know the truth and secrets to the world that we have been told aren’t true
I AGREE.
If you look at Dan Reed's interview in France the psychologist even called him out on it and also let him know that real abuse survivors cannot describe like these 2 liars have described in the movie and people who are real abused don't go after money. It is not a documentary it is a one-sided movie
Propaganda same style Hitler did to demonize Jews. Here they are trying to demonize MJ.
@@FactualGenius Good 👍 observations.
@@FactualGenius documentary definitely gives demon vibes
Bro the Feds conviction rate is 98% if they weren’t able to find anything he ain’t do it 🤷🏽♀️ let this man Rest In Peace
Stupid
Ashitaka because I’m not arguing I’m insulting. This is stupid. R Kelly quite literally had a video of him pissing on a girl shown in court and got off. Paul manafort just got a 47 month sentence on a 20 year crime. A lot of these MJ supporters are the same niggas who are against the police treating working class and poor people being treated unfairly by the justice system
Ashitaka no it can quite literally be an appeal to logic. Get your head out of your ass and learn something
Ashitaka considering I strongly alluded to an unfair justice system on both sides, I thought you’d be able to st least figure the connection on your own especially given the examples. Even then I gave you too much credit damn
BEFORE you say that those 2 men in the documentary are lying. I'm just gonna leave this right here. This is a video of Latoya jackson, Michael's own sister exposing him. czcams.com/video/9_1tGqn4jXc/video.html
😢😢😭😭 Michael was used for ratings in life and now he is being slandered in death Michael Jackson I still stand by you forever innocent to me
I’m not a Michael Jackson fan but you don’t have to be to understand and acknowledge that these to mean are just doing it for money .... I firmly believe Michael Jackson is truly innocent may his beautiful soul Rest In Peace .
But MJs music will live on forever. ✨🌿
Michael Jackson quotes:
«I am very sensitive to their pain (due to his childhood)»
«When I see children, I see the face of God»
«I would slit my wrist befor I would. I would never, ever»
«Children are my insperation. Every song I write, every dance I do»
«And Jesus said to be like children. Be innocent and pure, honorble. That was how I was raised»
Jennifer Hyde with a 10 plus year investigation. No evidence AT ALL. All the lies and money grabs those 2 guys have done. Nah they’re a bunch of pathetic ass liars
Jennifer Hyde if you had 4 hours to see this doc, you have 20 min to look into the Wade Robson and James Safechuck.
@@leneyalandegset2528 I have researched all sides.
Jennifer Hyde naa...I don’t know about that
And he slept in his bed with a 7 year old boy for 30 days! And he had a marriage ceremony with a boy with a ring and all (with photos of this and a diamond ring for evidence) Micheal ruined his face to the point where only a crazy person would do that. He had an alarm set up in the hallway leading to his room, just give me 1 reason why any single bachelor man would have that. Not to forget, where were the girlfriends??????? He never ever had a damn girlfriend for goodness sake. Stop the idolatry, Micheal was beloved by us all, the entire planet was enamored by him. So the hater narrative needs to stop. Explain this ridiculousness
Oprah tried to mess up his legacy but ended up destroying hers 🤦🏽♀️😭😭😭
Lmfao 😂
KITTEN MAYZ Her legacy is doing just fine sweetie, work on yours 😘
@@celine9richardson No it wont mark my words‼
No it didn't. If you think its nothing wrong with a grown ass man desperately wanting to be in bed with little boys, its some thing wrong with you
Oprah didn’t molest children...
Something tells me Oprah was questioning Michael Jackson way before this.
He came on her show and lied the entire time back in the day. I think it was the interview with him and Presley girl. I remember Oprah saying she was disturbed by him basically bullshitting her on her platform.
Fiona Thomson
Oprah didn’t interview Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson, that was Diane Sawer...
@@fionathomson255 Oprah didn’t interview Lisa Marie, and that’s why people like you shouldn’t speak on things when you don’t even know what you’re talking about. You can’t even get your facts straight...bye 🤡 Also if you watch the Oprah and MJ interview, she was fangirling so hard over him behind the scenes. Also why isn’t Oprah talking about her friend Harvey Weinstein? Oprah is a hypocrite and she can’t be trusted.
Michael is innocent now and forever... I do not understand why people do not understand? He never hurt a child. He would never be able to do a such a thing. He is a wonderful beautiful and an amazing person that has ever existed in this world. He helped many people around the world... He saved the life of many children around the world. He just wanted to change this world in a best place. And these two boys defended him in many occasions,they said that Michael never touched them never and ever. He has a golden and also he has a heart of a child, his soul is that of a child. And the police in 1993 turned his house upside down and they found nothing for saying that Michael Jackson did this. They found absolutely nothing. And also in this documentary there are many places that did not exist when they say they have been harassed in these places. So he never hurt this two boys, they he never hurt a child. They lie. They are liars. Michael always told the truth about this crazy story. Do not watch this horrible and disgusting docunentary because it's a false. Do not listen to these crazy boys. Leaving Neverld it's a fake . And Michael is the only victim in this story. LEAVE HIM ALONE . HE IS INNOCENT. I know that he will win. These men can say and do everything they want... But they know that sooner or later the truth will come out. #JUSTICEFORMJ #JUSTICEFORMJ #JUSTICEFORMJ #MJ INNOCENT#MJINNOCENT#MJINNOCENT.
I refuse to watch tht🤦🏾♂️
Wade Robson as a child has said Michael is innocent and that child molestation is sick.
Now to defend himself when asked why didn't he say anything when Michael was alive, he says "I didn't know it was abuse"
He also says that the reason why he testified under oath that Michael never touched him so that his kids won't be father less.
But didn't he say he didn't realise it was abuse untill 2012?
James safechuck says that he was abused at the train station in Neverland in 1992. But the train wasn't built untill 1994. It was approved in 1993.
Wade Robson says that Michael gave him a wedding ring as a form of grooming. But that ring in particular was furnished untill 2009, Michaels death year.
If you really want to believe these fools, go ahead. It's easy to believe bullshit when you only hear one side. Facts don't lie people do.
If Wade's testimony would have backfired on the stand at the time and he would said that he was molested, fans would of said he was lying then too. You just can't win with the powerful and rich.
@@arrivagabry it's clear you haven't done any research. I pity you.
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Madison Green don’t forget the ring was found on etsy
He was a child. I don't blame him for denying it. That's a heavy thing to admit at 7 or 12. If you realize what's going on is abuse that is.
@@belladonna5904 That's not what I said at all. He claimed child molestation was "sick" meaning he knew what it was and why it was wrong.
The vibe of this conversation vs the one about Cosby and R Kelly is very interesting
What's the difference?
👏👏👏👏👏 unacceptable
Because ppl love michael and cant see past that.
I'm only gonna say this once and I'm not going to go back and forth with any of you imbeciles. Let's get this straight Wade Robson and James safechuck were NEVER molested by michael Jackson and here's proof. I'm just going to say this before I get into any evidence. In October of 2009 Wade is 26 years old, he went to the Los Angeles premiere of This Is It.
In 2011, Robson approached John Branca co executor of MJ estate about directing the new Michael Jackson Cirque Du Soleil production ONE. Robson admitted h wanted the job so "badly" but the estate ultimately chose some one else for the position.Check out @mjchproject’s Tweet: twitter.com/mjchproject/status/1084005872861294594?s=09
They literally harassed this man and bullied him to death! From these terrible accusations, calling him weird and a gay pedophile it’s like SICK!
Even in death, they can’t let Michael rest 🙄🙄🙄
Leave him alone and the Jackson family
he’s rotting in hell love take note people never have young boys in your bed because people will talk even if it’s not true about the abuse MJ was definitely a fucking case for having kids in his bed I believe he did do it shame he’s dead I’d love to see the bastard hang
Honestly, I didn’t watch the documentary because I didn’t know about it nor did I do want to because I feel like bringing all of this up now and he’s passed on is kind of disrespectful to his legacy and to his family !
Myronn Coleman Disrespectful to his legacy... but not disrespectful to children's wellbeing?
issamemariheaux because these are allegations... if he didn't do it , and they're doing this... then it's disrespectful
@@MajesticMyronn but if he did than shame on him
But we'll never know
If you knew the pain of being abused, the trauma, the way it breaks you, damages you, affects you spiritually, mentally, psychologically, emotionally and even physically. It takes YEARS for victims to speak about their experiences, and even longer to heal. Their stories, experiences NEED to be told and heard and respected no matter how many years ago it happened or if the perpetrator is dead or not. Can't believe you automatically feel sorry for a dead perpetrator without consideration for the alive victims still living with that pain.
@@MajesticMyronn And if he did do it and they're FINALLY letting the OTHER SIDE have a platform... then it's only right. The victims NEVER had a public platform like this. Michael did. For DECADES.
Until I see proof, I will continue to believe Michael is innocent.
About My Business Both of them has similar stories, the documentary showed both of them WITH Michael. They were holding hands, that’s kinda weird.
@@lovelyluminals3723 Ok. I didn't see but I don't know for sure. Thank you.
Myliniko
what are you trying to say lol
Cheyenne Houle First off- have you watched the documentary?
@@lovelyluminals3723 - Today, 03/21/2019 The Jacksons will perform in São Paulo. Michael's brothers know that the fans of the late singer are in large numbers in South America. I did not understand what the purposes of his concerts would be in some countries, including the United States, but they should be at home to keep up with the delicate moment which involves them. The hypothesis of "Leaving Neverland" ending up in a disappointment for the family should not be ruled out, as well as a win for Wade Robson and James Safechuck in court. Fans do not want to accept, but Michael Jackson is considered a suspect!
There is a billion dollar law suit no monetary motivations though?
It's a joke. There's so much information that the public doesn't know - doesn't bother to find out.
www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/
@Veair There's a disclaimer right at the beginning. It's to bring context.
Disclaimer: this article is not intended as a review of Leaving Neverland, which I have not seen, but rather of the context behind the allegations in the documentary.
Wade Robson doesn’t have the attitude of a real victim of sex abuse. Real victim from sex abuse doesn’t beg to be a part of a tribute concerning his rapist, doesn’t ’t imagine his own kid being molested, doesn't harass kids who befriended his rapist, doesn’t ’t praise and defend his rapist for years. When I saw videos where Wade said that MJ was his inspiration in life and he wouldn’t be a dancer if it was for MJ, I could see the sincerity in his eyes whereas in his recent interviews when he’s claiming that MJ molested him as a kid I saw no emotions from Wade. Plus, his story that MJ would have forced him to defend him back in 2005 knowing that MJ molested him doesn’t make any sense. Child abuser would never take the risk to ask one of his victims to be his witness in court. Wade is acting like a shameless sociopath by pretending to be molested by MJ and using real victims of sexual abuse.
It seems that Wade wants to blame MJ for his career crisis and anxiety because he doesn’t want to learn from his failures. Wade's breakdowns are due to the fact he refused to acknowledge that he suffered from depression and the Robson's family had a long history of mental illness like depression. Wade Robson said that Leaving Neverland was made for survivors of sexual abuse. If it was really for survivor of sexual abuse, he would apologise to Gavin Arvizo, stop harassing kids who befriended MJ and said that Brett Barnes and Macaulay Culkin were molested by MJ whereas they always denied to have been molested by MJ and he wouldn't keep on his CZcams's account videos related to MJ.
Jimmy Safechuck and Wade Robson stories have a lot of similarities with Victor Gutierrez's book (a pedophile apologist and NAMBLA member. Wade Robson also said that MJ was jealous of Wade's girlfriends whereas MJ was the one who introduced Wade to his nieces. Wade dated Brandi Jackson for 7 years. It was MJ who set them up back in 91’-92’, when all of the supposed abuse was going on. His story about being in love with MJ and not to realize he was sexually abused doesn't make sense.
Sara couldn’t agree more
Different topic, not related to the Documentary but it always confuses me when they upload videos from different shows in one day. All these outfit changes, lol.
& I hope that they'll upload the whole show or the whole Girl Chat - segment at once. I'm annoyed by these short clips, lol, especially the one minute ones.
Totally agree.
Escaping ELVIS!
This is for the real Micheal Jackson.These are his true friends.The ones that stay real and are honestly speaking
"Honestly speaking" and yet, you didn't believe them when they went to court in 2005 and defended MJ... But now, they honest speaker...
Put them on a lie detector
MsUsagi513 but I think they can tell when they try to cheat the lie detector
Idk if it’s true but I always hear it on the Steve Wilkos show lol
Funny cos Michael Jackson himself refused to take a polygraph test in the 90's. He was being offered a million dollars to answer 10 questions and refused.
lie detector test can even be use in court soo theres no point
Well idc who they are in general if they have money and people accusing them of anything it’s hard to trust
Some people just want money. . it’s happened before just saying
It’s all common sense when you know someone is doing something wrong, they were all above the age of 6 I’m pretty sure they knew right from wrong
To me is unbelievable that they just realized that once they were in there 30s and had kids of their own 🤷🏻♀️
you should you wont like the results
So where is Elvis’ documentary?🤔
He's a white man that's stole Black Talent! Of course they're not going to put his name in the picture.
bep4ever97bp why on earth are you bringing Elvis into this he didn’t go near his ex wife till she was old enough fact MJ on the other hand was sleeping with very young boys get your story straight
@Daniel Almquist what about Charlie Sheen fucked Corey Haim and fucked his life up that he committed suicide
Did elvis rape little boys? No he didn't. Mj raped little boys
Mila A 14 year old teenager isn't the same as an innocent 7 year old child!!!!!
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
They must have felt like complete tools within weeks after it all fell apart using good old fashioned fact checking 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
So the director said this and that so we should believe him...nah
Girl preachhhhhh 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Right ???!
My thoughts exactly‼
When we know that in AMERIKKKA, no black men will get away to sexually assault and abuse white little boys‼
Some black men went to jaill life sentences for less than that😤😢
LEAVE MICHAEL ALONE!! THE MAN IS DEAD 10 YEARS AND CANNOT EVEN DEFEND HIMSELF!! LET HIS MUSICAL LEGACY LIVE ON WITH DIGNITY!!
@@alfie1870 you a jackass! With what proof! Don't worry I'll wait! Bastard
@@sasukehickson7126 he molested a kids 😐😎
His own sister exposed him!!! His mother called him a faggot!!! What grown man allows little boys to stay in his room on his bed for weeks at a time?????? He was obviously mentally ill. Stop being blind.
zaltmanbleroze exactly !! Thank you!!
@HealthEnthusiast Best comment ever "Take off the idolartry glasses."
Oprah should hab interviewed WEINSTEIN
Okuku Liliann and Bill Cosby? And his victims
All of the commenters, serious question did you actually watch it?
Watched it. Did my research too. I believe Michael is innocent. I suggest you too do your research.
LuneyTune72 I also did my research. I’m not one to jump on the outrage train without understanding why I believe something. Long story short just because you are let go or someone reverses their statement that does not mean you are innocent. Additionally there is something very very wrong with an adult man sleeping with children.
Yes I did... just lies!!! #MJInnocent!
@ Al Ba if Michael had problem with kids why was his children allowed to be with him, since you all think he had some serious problems with kids?
@@thomascamprand CPS allowed him to keep all his children around him, cause he was molesting and abusing children is that your story and you sticking to it?
If we strip back the love and loyalty we have for the icon and see him as a man we can agree his mannerisms and behavior would set off reg flags the size of Texas. Someone can be a great father, friend, son and have an amazing career but still have a dark side. People are complex.
YESS!I literally just said this in reply to somebody else's comment. Just because you're one thing don't mean you can't be the other. In fact what makes paedophilia even scarier is that they are the most charming, hardworking, smart, child loving and revolutionary people that you will ever know! It's insane.
I understand your point of view, but please allow me to ask you to look at this with an open heart and clear mind. Michael Jackson has been the most "famous" human in the world for 40 years now. He was also a black American, who broke many barriers in the industry, became the richest, most successful and admired person with a massive fan following on every continent that transcended race, age, colour, culture and creed. His entire life was lived in a fish bowl, no privacy anywhere in the world, and the people and media scrutinizing his every move and action. His friendship with children was always well known. Do you think it was even possible to commit such heinous crimes, not once or twice but over so many years without leaving behind EVEN ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE..?
The FBI investigated him for 10 years, the files can be accessed by anyone on internet. Not 1 evidence. A humiliating strip search was done on his body. Not 1 evidence. The prosecution and media( Both tabloid and mainstream) offered money to numerous kids who had visited Neverland, many with their families, many alone, luring, forcing and intimidating them to speak against MJ, but not even ONE of them said there had been any wrong doing, instead they only had praises for his goodness and big heart.
Over the years, his generosity had been taken advantage of by shrewd, cunning, gold-diggers and crazy extortion attempts were always being made. The 2005 trial proved his innocence beyond the shadow of a doubt and it was clear that it was MJ who was the real victim.
Thousands of people, children, employees who have spent time at Neverland, and ANYONE who has known him personally for either 4 minutes, or 4 decades has the same opinion about him.. that he was the sweetest, kindest, most humble, gracious and loving human, full of compassion for the needy, very funny and childlike, honest, truthful, had integrity and grace and always felt that as someone blessed with " God-given " talent, he had a responsibility to use it to make the world a better place. And his real fans or admirers are those millions of people around the world who have been fortunate to look beyond the ARTIST/SUPERSTAR/CELEBRITY persona to know and deeply appreciate the real Michael Jackson- a humanitarian of epic proportions.
Please do only a bit of research and you will find that he gave away more than 350 million dollars to charity, funded treatments, constructed parks, installed hospital machines, provided scholarships and what not. He even features in the Guinness Book of World records for having funded the greatest number of charities, 39, throughout his life. And the few grifters and gold diggers who tried to malign his name by false allegations were all liars, motivated by shameless greed and their 15 min of fame. Their lives and past conduct with other people prove their deceitful intent, complete lack of credibility and low moral compass. These two liars in the so called documentary, who earlier swore on oath that nothing was ever wrong, that MJ was the kindest person who inspired and helped them like a big brother, now turn against him and lie when they have no career, are broke, and have failed to extort a billion dollars from the MJ Estate because a court threw their stupid, baseless allegations.. and the irresponsible TRP driven media and actual rapists like media mogul Harvey Weinstein are supporting such despicable liars to spread the sleaze, either to up their ratings or to distract attention from real pedophiles infesting Hollywood.
The media killed Michael Jackson with its lies, slander, libel and hate campaigns relentlessly and shamelessly targeted against him for decades because he was different, and hence an easy target who could be misinterpreted, misrepresented by the media and as a result, misunderstood by the gullible public that didnt even know it was being manipulated and brainwashed by the unethical mass media. His reclusive was used against him to create salacious scandals and sell false news. It is happening still. What a shame, that the man who was not only one of the greatest artists, but also the greatest humanitarians to walk this world, inspiring millions to be the best versions of themselves, is being crucified still..even in death.. On behalf of mankind, we are sorry, Michael.. may your legacy be your glorious music, your genuine humanity and the inspiration you continue to be to those who are carrying out your mission of healing the world by staying childlike, loving, innocent, forgiving and courageous, just like you taught..spreading their light in a dark and desolate world..
Annie S you are so articulated and i cannot thank you enough. God bless you 🙏🏾
@@annies2077 it is most definitely a possibility that MJ is innocent and these men are lying. But equally, you also need to be open minded and realise that MJ is this great man who still could have done those horrible things. When it comes to sexual abuse, you literally can never put it past anyone. I speak from experience. The man that abused me when I was a kid is the most loved man in my family. He is deeply respected. My family is not rich but he has worked his butt off to send so many of our family members to school, provided food, housing etc for so many relatives. He's the cool Uncle that everybody loves. He's charming, very intelligent, hard working, caring, etc. He actually loved children as well having 7 of his own. He is all that AND a paedophile. When I finally came out after 2 yrs, loads of people didn't believe me, I have lost family because they think I'm trying to tarnish his name. I get why it's difficult for them to believe me, it's the same reasons you find it difficult to consider MJ was guilty. I went to university studied Criminology with Psychology and I learnt that paedophiles tend to be these great role models with a dark hidden side. So from personal experience and university, you literally can never say so and so could never have done that because there is every possibility they have. About the evidence thing - in the UK sexual abuse has the lowest rate of conviction. Only 2% of the 100,000+ cases reported and taken to court actually end in conviction. Most don't due to lack of evidence. It's difficult to find evidence when it comes to abuse especially when victims take yrs to finally come out. MJ could have easily payed off the FBI. I am open minded that he might be innocent but you need to be open minded that he might not. Though I apprreciate you taking your time to reply me, you have gone to great lengths to defend a man you didn't actually know and you weren't at Neverland. So at the end of the day you can never be so confident that he didn't do it.
As someone who has gone through this and is STILL ashamed to speak up or out about it, you never know a person's situation and assuming you have all answers as to why a victim is most likely lying is either because you have never been through it with someone so loved and close to you that you can hurt so many people by speaking up or you are just that strong and handled it differently. Everyone is different, I chose not to speak up but I raised my kids not trusting them to ANYONE, AND to this day I still have to see the people who did this to me, but I keep it to myself instead of causing family issues for the family members I love. It is not fair to assume or judge either way unless you were in those rooms.
Idk if Michael is guilty or not- all I know is that it was extremely weird that a GROWN man was hanging around little kids. There’s absolutely no excuse for that to have had happened.
Michael loved children & was a child at heart because he never had a "childhood" & he felt like he missed out that. That's why he loved being around kids
I hate to see comments like this bc one I’m a True mj fan and I know for sure it not weird b if you seen his childhood or even heard his song childhood you will know that michael never had one and by michael building never land it was for him to re live it and like michael loved kids like to the point wear he rather slice his wrist before doing ANYTHING to a child and ima need people to realize this image not having a childhood bc you have to make music for people to listen to how would that make you feel michael couldn’t every go outside b he always had to go to the studio and just to give you a heads up michael is innocent and was found not guilty for every charge that the gave him
It is weird that he did hang around children but I do not believe he saw them as sexual pleasures, more so vicariously living through them because of his childhood. He was childlike himself. A grown man wanting to be a boy again, doing boyish things.
Ferren Barnwell the children was the only people that understood him and like I don’t blame him for hangi around kids bc like michael been around adults ever since he started singing around 5 and beyond so like him with children was like a Miracle bc he felt like a lil 7 year old when he was around him
Ferren Barnwell them* but also everybody know michael was a child like person so him around kids wasn’t weird like you telling me u being around ur children or any children is weird bc u a grown adult
THANK YOU LONI!! I love you ❤ thank you for your thoughts
WE LOVE YOU MICHEAL!
Omg shut up ..
Ain't it funny how they wait until Janet is about to release a new album to release this doc?
MONEY THEY THEY WANT
EXTREMELY disappointed in Tamera. Thanks for having some sense, Loni. #MJInnocent
I didn't even watch the documentary for HBO to profit off of deceased MJ! Nope🙅 Not on my watch☝🗣🗣🗣
What did Tamera do wrong ?
Yes! You can tell by the way she’s talking she believes in this foolery !
@@lamayiashaffer7080 exactly she never has her own mind she just gets swayed easily
she did surprise me at all...
MICHAEL JACKSON is INNOCENT ...FOREVER
oh really no financial compensation for the accusers! the hell research on wade robsons' suing the jacksom estate for a huge amount of money !!
Literally $1,000,000,000. Insane.
After so many years they still want more money from Michael Jackson, amazing you support this documentary.
I'm LOVING Tamera's style 😍 specially those earrings 🤩
Also they've had five years at least to practice their lines for this movie and it is awfully similar to the lines from the fiction book of Victor Gutierrez.
I love The Real, mad respect for these women. Love the bigger budget as it shows in the outfits and stage
MJ was found innocent i remember the 2005 trial and so he will always be innocent he is dead but they will not kill his legacy they keep trying smh
But you'd be okay with a grown person sleeping in the same room as your child?
Law is nonsense in this world of MONEY AND CONTACTS
i belev the jackson family 100 percent
Yeah, they didn’t need to be payed for that interview anyways since they are suing the estate for hundreds of millions. The only corruption here is from Harpo
I read they were each paid $600,000 to be on this Oprah show.
I'm never gonna believe James or wade in a million years
Wade is supposed to be appealing the lawsuit suing the jackson estate for 1.5 billion. Of course making this doc is gonna stand in his favour, hmmm money grabbers..
Elaine M and I’m wondering how the Real wasnt able to find out this info vs just depending on the directors statement... 🤦🏾♀️ this all is just a mess.
Known lairs, heck even in small details. Like the Indiana Jones bull whip was donated to the institute of archaeology in london in 1990, and then the euro disney honeymoon in 1988 even though it opened in 1992...Also the money... This docu is made so that in court they will have an easier path to walk to get that 100 million from the family estate
That makes no fuckin sense. He’s lying because he said 1988 and not 1992? It was 30 years ago 😂
It's scary how people defend a criminal once he's reached a certain level of popularity and vilify the children who were the victims. Sick society ‼️
They are like cultists blindly following their guru.
There is so much that speaks against him, that alarm bells should be ringing for everyone.
It's actually called "Leaving Neverland"....not "Escaping Neverland" lmao. And I seriously think not one of these people even bothered to watch it never mind the idiots in the comments below.
MJs parents are to blame for the way MJ was... :( MJ was the most amazing man tho ... You know Omer OBee the norwegian ( Im from Norway and I live here ) boy who lived with MJ ? Ive talked with him about MJ after MJ died... and Obee was truly devastated.... and had nothing but good things to say about MJ.. and OBee STILL flies over to be with MJs family... years after MJs death... I trust OBee more than those money hungry awful men
Michael didn’t touch them
Thank you Loni! I was watching it, and thats what I was saying! @thereal
How is this different than r Kelly? He was exonerated from his charges as well but people now, 20 years finally believe he’s guilty. People still aren’t ready to believe Michael is guilty, this panel of women included. Young children sleeping in the bed of a grown man with no parents around never sat well with me, if it were anyone but Michael Jackson, people would be quick to say it’s vile and that there had to have been something going on. But because he’s so beloved people don’t want to believe it. But this isn’t any different than what’s going on right now with r Kelly, it’s the same type of abuse allegations.
I think people always believed R.Kelly was guilty. However These girls willingly had sex with him that why people didn’t care as much. They were sleeping with him like grown women.
michael wouldn’t ask kids to sleep over at his the way you are making it seem Loni.
@@MrJKS247 no. are you?
Uh yeah he did. Nobody questions this. He def slept with little boys over at his house. Snapp out of the idol worship!!!!
@@1love847 you're very sick for immediately equating sleeping over at someones house to having sex. I hope you don't have kids and if you do, I sure as hell hope they don't live with you!
He never asked kids to sleep over. They wanted to.
@@annlanders978 what? So a child can say where they sleep at night?
I personally believe MJ is innocent. Sadly he aint here to defend himself.
I personally believe you haven't seen this documentary
hnljojoilbvtgfyvgub I personally believe they lied, my belief comes from the FBI, The courts and Robson’s and Safechucks constant changing of the story
True only Jesus Christ above knows the truth
Did you watch this documentary? That fbi thing is the most passed around ish that basically shows no one has actually watched it. What evidence were they supposed to get? DNA? How? VIdeo footage at the moment he molests??? HOW?? Even Corey Feldman friends with MJ as a little boy is now retracting his support for Michael after finally seeing the film
@@therealCJW900 LOL - and the FBI is perfect.
My mother wouldn’t let me stay at my cousins house for a night lmao
I believe the accusers. I was sexually assaulted when I was 6 years old and there was a time I had denied it as well because I was coached to say so. I am very uncomfortable with so many people calling these accusers "known liars" when there is a lot of mental aspects people don't understand about child molestation. Denying something that happened in your childhood and then later recanting does not automatically mean the person is lying. It can mean that the person has finally come to terms with what happened to them. I'm 26 years old and it took me almost 15 years for me to finally admit what happened to me to just my mom. For some people it takes longer and I have no idea the kind of courage it takes to admit such a thing to the entire world.
Trying to hold on to the legacy of Michael Jackson because you're a fan of his music does not negate the fact that michael faced these accusations for 20+ years and was ultimately able to beat the system because he was rich, not unlike r kelly. And my heart breaks for his victims because if you were to ask me today, 20 years later to prove I was molested, at the age when I couldn't even understand what was happening to me much less have the foresight and self awareness to gather evidence I couldn't be able to prove it in a court of law at all, all I can do is tell my story the way these guys are doing now. NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVE IT DOES NOT MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I think that Michael Jackson is one of the most iconic legends of all time. I've loved listening to and growing up with him. I loved his music, but there is no song good enough for me to overlook the abuse of children. I can't ignore what I saw in that documentary, especially the testimonies of these men that are so detailed, specific, and seem so authentic. I just have a feeling they are not lying.
10 YEARS
That's how long Michael was investigated by the FBI; yet they found nothing, no evidence. That's not the case with Harvey Weinstein, Cosby, RKelly etc.
@@michaelwatson7293 did you watch the documentary?
chelecovers :(
chelecovers I could not agree with you more. People who haven’t been through something like sexual abuse as a child may not understand why it often takes people so long to come forward about it, especially if they’ve been brainwashed and told not to. I’ve been studying psychology for many years now and I can say when something traumatic like that happens to a child, especially in this particular situation, there’s often some form of denial and repression that happens and I’m not surprised they took so long to come forward about it. While it’s very sad someone we all have known and loved for a long time has these accusations against them, we can’t just call the victims liars because we don’t want to see MJ in a negative light
Thanks for your testimony!!! God bless you and VICTIMS first!!
Was it a dumb move for Michael to have all these kids at his house by themselves as well as sleep in the same bed with him? YES! MAJORLY DUMB🤦🏽♀️ But do I believe he ever did anything to hurt them? No. The man was a big kid himself...that’s why he never saw anything wrong with it. He was simply trying to live out the childhood he never got, as well as give it to other kids. The end.
Brittany Keyes he was too nice. Can’t be nice to savages.
A grown man hanging out with children? Regardless if it was MJ or not, if another man who wasn’t MJ did this, would you still be on board?
If the nicest man in your neighbourhood wanted your 10 year old son to sleep in his bed with him because he didn’t get the childhood he wanted, would you let him go?
Who said anything about being on board?! If I found out my child was in bed with ANY man, I will be FURIOUS!!!! I never said that I wouldn’t be. Having those kids in bed with him, in his home without extra pairs of ears and eyes was STUPID. Michael brought all this heat upon himself. I simply stated my opinion on whether or not I believe he actually sexually assaulted them.
If the man was "a big kid himself" why, when Neverland was raided in 2003, was "a sizable amount of adult heterosexual pornography" seized? How many kids do you know that have a large collection of hardcore pornography?
I Remember when Michael Jackson said they said that they would say that he raped and abused kids or blackmail him just for money and now that's his not here he still getting bashed smh he never did anything wrong!
If mj wasn’t famous and he lived next door to you he would of be arrested years ago !
he would have been arrested with what evidence .... Are you stupid or what? He went to court in 2005 and these two men defended him!! but YOU SAID NO The people who testified must have been paid, no the jury must have been paid... oh no the Judge must have been paid!! But now, these two people who defended MJ in 2005 (but you didn't believe them) come out and say "Oh he actually molested us" and YOU BELIEVE THEM!!!!,?????????????????????????? WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE THEM BACK THEN? CAUSE YOU ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO!! Stupid people out there !
Mary Kab Who the hell gives someone $23,000,000 ....... a guilty man an innocent man would say $ 0.00 see you in court
Aiyaluna Yourke . Bull sh!t . People don’t say the same thing about you for 20 years and it ain’t true ,Be blinded by the talent if you want
They weren’t compensated by Dan reed but an important thing to mention is that they tried to sue the estate for 1.5 billion in damages which was thrown out based on a limitation period bc michael had been dead for too long, and after this documentary aired they appealed that case and the law has now actually been changed so there is a good chance it will go to trial... this is far from over, folks!
Tbh, sometimes victims dont want to share with anyone. they just want to forget it even happened.
Yah. And sometimes, victims go to the court, not sue the estate.
Sadly, money can buy people nowadays.
Yeah and they neither lie too...Which sexual abuse victim defends and dances on his abuser's songs? And then suddenly comes out of nowhere to accuse the same person whom he defended hundreds of times..And tht too only after his abuser died?? Rather than going to the court who sues the estate first?
you need to change the title. it's not "Escaping Neverland" its "Leaving Neverland"
These children should not have been shoved at Michael Jackson. These men were in love with Michael, they just wanted to be in his light no matter what. They were victims.
They have gotten so much publicity from all of this for years. Imagine how much shows have paid for them just to come on their show and speak about the allegations they made. Even if they state they haven't recieved any compensation from Michael, they can't deny they haven't sold their story well multiples times on various different platforms. Michael was too child like to have done something as cruel and deadly as they claim. Just by discussing intimate topics, Michael would become very clearly uncomfortable. If you watch old documentaries its also very clear he even had his children, just to have children and become a father. Not to hold any kind of relationship with anyone. He was a man who was not driven by lust. He was driven by love. Something he lacked. He was a kid at heart. People need to leave the poor man alone.
Let's be honest, if you chose to be on the side of two men then people will attack you so most would play it safe or be quiet.
No, you can have your opinion but before that look at the accuser background.
Damn the man is gone and ya still won’t let him rest. Omg, this is why he not here anymore. THE WORLD DID NOT DESERVE A PERSON LIKE HIM!
Exactly
It's often someone we know or even love who puts children at risk.
I had no thoughts on it. Because I refused to watch it, and I was disappointed that it was even put on air in the first place. All of these years after he have passed away. Smh!