What is the difference between them? On paper they are the same, but in the game? Or the tank look, I mean the skin is different? I got Obj. 252U in my garage. Sorry iam pretty new to the game.
They are the same tank but the Defender itself with the permanent skin has not been for sale for a few years. Too bad I would like to get it, not just the Obj 252U.
Thanks for everything you do, as always Skill. I've wanted the Defender for quite some time, only ever seem to get offered the 252U (which is what is on "sale" for me currently) I know they're the same tank, but the name and style of the Defender is far superior. Wallet remains closed until WG decides to sell the right thing to me!
@christonkinson8473 I fitted mine with Vents/hardening/rammer. I have aiming circle mod that I set to 15px so I don't really need Aiming on any of my tanks. You know this stuffs really works becuz when I first played the tank without any Mod and equipment, the aiming was sooo bad I feel like crying that I wasted my bonds(I have just 4k remaining now) but after setting it up fully it is now just as accurate as any med I have played. It will do with more penetration though, sometimes 196mm pen sucks.
PSA: If you are looking to buy this tank go to the bond store and get the identical tank Obj. 252U for 9k bonds. So weird he opened the last video about going to the bond store to buy a tank that WG was selling for 50 bucks. But somehow that is completely absent from this video...
Used to be a solid brawler. Power creep has rendered the turret armor into paper for a few T8 and a lot of T9 & T10. Since you meet T10 a lot, this isn't nearly as fun as it used to be. Back when it first came out, you could exploit their height. If you had a tall tank (nodding at Mutant), face hug them and shoot the heck out of the top of the turret.
This tank only exists to make enemies press 22. Large parts of the tank are butter against premium shells, but they gave it an LFP that bounces standard ammo. So much for aiming at weakspots.
Still fun tank, perfect for bullying low tiers. Has one of those glorious Soviet guns that is much better than it’s listed accuracy (aka elitist bourgeoisie lies)
The greatest thing about the Defender and actually where i personally still have trouble with is that the lower plate can bounce quite a lot just like the Mutant and Chrysler. It even does against gold when angled properly. I never thought it was op however since it still has hittable cupolas on top, easy to permatrack if overangled and it catches fire quite quickly.
So why do I never get spawn in maps like this? I'm either north or south, I see his games east and west spawns alot.. I just came back to the game after 9 years
8:20 Skiiiiiillllll am sorry but i don't think so Man the higher tiyer tanks can penetrant you directly in the face.. It's happened to me sooo so meny times actually!! Other than that yeah it's still good
1 of 10 games will be tier 8-6. All games will be suffering as against tier 10 heavy's u have no chance armor is garbage cause tier 9-10 will pen 4out of 5 shots . U will do few shots and back to garage , i have 5skill crew whole equipment for accuracy still u will miss weakspots as gun is trash. Armor wont work against tier 10. Dont buy it. U have been warned . Unless u r top tier as skill4ltu is showing gameplay then yeah its fun.
I can't stand the defender :D The armour is great but it's gun is so bad for me, maybe a different equipment t setup could help but atm it's not one of my go to tanks :)
defender its not at sale, nor for bonds. obj 252U is. diferent 3d style. video is wrong. i just check wg premium store and ingame store and there is no way to get defender.
the upper plate of this tank cannot be pen by anyone, anyone, not even JPanzerE100 with 299 pen AP or 420 pen HEAT. and this is a tier 8. there are way too many OP tanks out there nowadays, and if it requires a little bit of skills and patient to play it people will call it trash. and a side note, 50% of the turret front is also auto bounce for JpanzerE100. but you are pening the Jpanzer in the lower plate with your standard AP, because it is made of paper. like how much more do you want from a tier 8 premium tank? i bought the fcm50t (150mm front armor and 240 alpha with no camo) and wz111(buffed to 19x penetration from 175mm) back then with real money, and we have people complaining the 252 is trash. WG is toxic but the community is the enablers to allow WG ridiculous behavior. nowonder why people are rolling with tier 8 mediums that have 230mm of penetration and 360 alpha plus an auto loader with ultra strong turret and they be complaining (the gun handling is bad)
Baboons!!! Obj252U / Defender is available for bonds! Don't buy it for real money.
What is the difference between them? On paper they are the same, but in the game? Or the tank look, I mean the skin is different? I got Obj. 252U in my garage. Sorry iam pretty new to the game.
@@sulyokpeter3941only the looks are the different, i prefer obj 252 u myself as you can use any skin, u cant change the defender skins
They are the same tank but the Defender itself with the permanent skin has not been for sale for a few years. Too bad I would like to get it, not just the Obj 252U.
@@sulyokpeter3941 If you are new Im going to save you a lot of time. Uninstall it now and never look back.
I am at 7,000 bonds. This is my next tank.
That tank still gives me ptsd to this day the more I see them I would have gone crazy ..... Painful memories .....
What?
@@joe125ful
"I used to hate you Obj 252U" series ...
it was real fun playing the tiger and tiger 2 against them... with no prem ammo
Vert stabs with experimental turbo can mitigate the lack of accuracy significantly
They can't because both are boosting dispersion not accuracy, but i think you mean gun handling.
Better get accuraci boost.
@@Target850 eh it's the same shit but the point is that the circle is smaller
@@sanzyboy3952 smaller circle doesnt mean always better accuracy
@@Falt_ what? It literally means that, you are literally more accurate what are you yapping about?
Thanks for everything you do, as always Skill. I've wanted the Defender for quite some time, only ever seem to get offered the 252U (which is what is on "sale" for me currently) I know they're the same tank, but the name and style of the Defender is far superior. Wallet remains closed until WG decides to sell the right thing to me!
okey armor when it meet a Skoda or the new tanks it crys in the corner afther taking 900 for the team..
I just had 5k dmg battle with Defender few hours ago, play safe and remember to aim before shotting will be fine, this tank still work.
I rlly like 112 w improved aiming and stabs. Got number 1 on NA in it was pretty cool
The look on his face just in first 30 seconds told me everything I need to know. Sheer joy
I got my first Tier VIII Bond tank days ago and I was considering this. But I went for the T34-3 for the sole reason that it doesn't meet Tier X
I love my 34-3 .. fitted mine out with bounty vents/aiming/rammer. good little tank
@christonkinson8473 I fitted mine with Vents/hardening/rammer. I have aiming circle mod that I set to 15px so I don't really need Aiming on any of my tanks. You know this stuffs really works becuz when I first played the tank without any Mod and equipment, the aiming was sooo bad I feel like crying that I wasted my bonds(I have just 4k remaining now) but after setting it up fully it is now just as accurate as any med I have played. It will do with more penetration though, sometimes 196mm pen sucks.
When defender went in the game everyone complained pretty much like they complain now about bz176 :) what will be next ?! 😅😊
In the stream he said don't buy it but here it different?
great armour but i cant hit anything with it :(
Almost 70 % of all the tanks I have 🤭😫
That’s it main issue. There are other premium tanks with great armor and decent guns. (703 II prime example)
Skieeeeeel Day 21 of asking for Su-122-44, does it need re-rating?
PSA: If you are looking to buy this tank go to the bond store and get the identical tank Obj. 252U for 9k bonds.
So weird he opened the last video about going to the bond store to buy a tank that WG was selling for 50 bucks.
But somehow that is completely absent from this video...
If he did it on purpose it's sneaky but still the difference is that this one is good and the last one was crap
Wich video do you mean btw? Hydrostat is not in bond store?
One of my all time favorite tanks. Had some of my best games in the defender
Used to be a solid brawler. Power creep has rendered the turret armor into paper for a few T8 and a lot of T9 & T10. Since you meet T10 a lot, this isn't nearly as fun as it used to be. Back when it first came out, you could exploit their height. If you had a tall tank (nodding at Mutant), face hug them and shoot the heck out of the top of the turret.
This tank only exists to make enemies press 22. Large parts of the tank are butter against premium shells, but they gave it an LFP that bounces standard ammo. So much for aiming at weakspots.
have to agree skill, at running t8 onslaught I played mainly defender and it worked fine on t8 only
What does the Writing on the Barrel say ?
SKill4ltu think you have to mention for new players that your crew is super duper cool
For me I would have finised that first game with 0 dmg and all shells flying into orbit
The armour of the tanks works best if you have no clue what you are doing. So great tank for the worst of the worst.
I eat them alive often in my Is3 with AP... Premium ammo and turret becomes almost non-existent with rng blessings...
what is the best equipment for defender, is skills setup on the index the best one? If i want to max the gun performence.
my defender has bond fan, band rammer and bond stabi.
Great tank, lots of fun
Band rammer is tight.
Still fun tank, perfect for bullying low tiers. Has one of those glorious Soviet guns that is much better than it’s listed accuracy (aka elitist bourgeoisie lies)
9:58 Looks like the KV-4 took up the mantle of "DEFENDER" LMAO!!!!!!!! 😂😂🤣🤣
2:06 And Skill says it have bad gun handling...300meters blind kill shot in move...
Greeting! How to get the marks of excellence indicator on the in-game in monitor. You are the best, stay that way!
I enjoy this vehicle, I got 3RD mark and top 1 in SEA sever
This is the tank who grew all my heavy ussr tech tree !!! 4K battles with this
What equipment is good for this tank
P44 pantera skilllll plssss
I just bought the Un-skinned version on console. On sale for half price
Day 382 of asking for AMX CDC 😅
Yea sure😅😅😅
CDC IS DEAD 😜
@@Ale_X Oh ... I know! The experience of playing a walking dead is ... painfull! 😅
Day 382 with 68 comment lol
Skill could do a try hard session with one weak tank for a change
the more i watch skill's video, the more i am sure that Wargaming listening when we play their games 😂
WG does not sell defender no more, only obj. 252U, wtf?
After watching this video I decided to play once again. After second game, I lost my %25 of my hair because of the gun xD I demand CC rng :)
The greatest thing about the Defender and actually where i personally still have trouble with is that the lower plate can bounce quite a lot just like the Mutant and Chrysler. It even does against gold when angled properly. I never thought it was op however since it still has hittable cupolas on top, easy to permatrack if overangled and it catches fire quite quickly.
So why do I never get spawn in maps like this? I'm either north or south, I see his games east and west spawns alot.. I just came back to the game after 9 years
it was encounter battle or assault enable it in the settings
@@hyperquick7412 is there advantages to playing in these modes, or is it just switching things up is all?
@@afoquinn17 it is just to add variety to the same maps
That Arta lol ....
There are too many decent tank and because of that suddenly Defender is starting to look average or standard
Crap tank is OP vs standard tier 8 and some 9 tanks.
Ok for bonds, not for real moneys
I got the bond variant and it was guuud
i really wanna get this tank but i will get it with bonds i guess
In the word of the great gnome overlord Mighty Jingles. This tank is idiot proof.
Your uncle is definitely working overtime at WG. WTF was that first 2 shots?
Great, i just sold the fatton to buy another tank and wg are buffing it
Where on xbox?
Need this tank.....freebie....?
☕😂👍
To świetnie
Not my tank,
When I play against it, I can't penetrate it,
When I play it, it's like hot knif in the butter...
And the gun...
Not my tank
Russian Bias lol
8:20 Skiiiiiillllll am sorry but i don't think so
Man the higher tiyer tanks can penetrant you directly in the face.. It's happened to me sooo so meny times actually!!
Other than that yeah it's still good
Not tier X Battle? Not accurate reality
On sale? It's a bond tank.
The version that's on sale is "Defender" version. But in the bond shop it's "Obj. 252U" version.
EXACTLY THE SAME but Defender has unique camo.
@@thiravitphinyoyang1254 Like calling a cat a horse.
💐My kulwa flowers here... I think i will purchase this mothertrucker today is6 is paper nowadays
1 of 10 games will be tier 8-6. All games will be suffering as against tier 10 heavy's u have no chance armor is garbage cause tier 9-10 will pen 4out of 5 shots . U will do few shots and back to garage , i have 5skill crew whole equipment for accuracy still u will miss weakspots as gun is trash. Armor wont work against tier 10. Dont buy it. U have been warned .
Unless u r top tier as skill4ltu is showing gameplay then yeah its fun.
defender vs k-2 who wins?
K2 8-)
defender
Day 1 pls play with super hell cat🙏
who is my sandwich
Great pick if you love to miss some easy shots and make others hate WOT XD
I can't stand the defender :D The armour is great but it's gun is so bad for me, maybe a different equipment t setup could help but atm it's not one of my go to tanks :)
It looks amazing but the gun....
even with powercreep it has good alpha
defender its not at sale, nor for bonds. obj 252U is. diferent 3d style. video is wrong. i just check wg premium store and ingame store and there is no way to get defender.
redshire encounter is such a lopsided map.
Tank no one wants to play or to fight against its great on downtier and shit on uptier
Defender is a pile of kaku.
Numero uno
Cia pinigu svaistymas,kuris geresnis tankas,jai nemokiesiat kaip zaisti su to tanku jokio skirtumo😂
13 metu sita zaidima zaidziu,ir taip pat esu skill4Ltu klane 😂
The Defender is crap; traded mine in.
You'll only get satisfying performance when top tier and even then, it's just too unreliable.
Save your money.
numero3
KAVAFOURKATATASA hahaha!.... i hate defender with passion... i dont care if it has the best armor in the game... this gun is sh!t !!!
the upper plate of this tank cannot be pen by anyone, anyone, not even JPanzerE100 with 299 pen AP or 420 pen HEAT. and this is a tier 8. there are way too many OP tanks out there nowadays, and if it requires a little bit of skills and patient to play it people will call it trash. and a side note, 50% of the turret front is also auto bounce for JpanzerE100. but you are pening the Jpanzer in the lower plate with your standard AP, because it is made of paper. like how much more do you want from a tier 8 premium tank? i bought the fcm50t (150mm front armor and 240 alpha with no camo) and wz111(buffed to 19x penetration from 175mm) back then with real money, and we have people complaining the 252 is trash. WG is toxic but the community is the enablers to allow WG ridiculous behavior. nowonder why people are rolling with tier 8 mediums that have 230mm of penetration and 360 alpha plus an auto loader with ultra strong turret and they be complaining (the gun handling is bad)
checked its armor model against jagdpizza HEAT. oh my bananas.
Nah, I'd recommend a beginner gets the IS-6. If they're going to play WOT it's important they learn how to suffer.