Hence lies the problem..Common sense isnt common anymore...People dont have the Patience for common sense..It forces them to think and they cant Google it..
Great video as always, we appreciate you taking your time to release them based on questions from here, in saying that my first request would be I would love to see how you teach a horse leg cues on the ground and under saddle.
Glad I saw this months ago. It really came in handy here little while back tagging in the pasture ...I work on this every Sunday when things are slow and it takes patience which we all need ....many times older hands had to tell me to slow down watch out....these things really do help and I'm greatful he takes time to make these helpful videos
thank you so much for this video. im starting a calf horse and he is vey stubborn on the back. no trainer has ever explained things quite as well as you do.
Pat have you ever had issues with horses pulling back/sitting back hard enough to undo the halter from the lead? I'm not sure if you've made a video on how you've set yours up.
The link to www.thedisciplinedride.com.thank/ in your post does not work as written. (.Thank ) needs to be removed from the link in order for it to work. Just an FYI for anyone who uses the link instead of copy and paste.
I DO teach my horses to back this way. I was just wanting you to comment on something I was told about this. About 25 years ago a trainer told me it wasn't a good idea to train a horse to back this way. He said it caused the horse to hollow out its back and raise it's head when it was backing up. He did not comment about an alternative method though.
The horse has to back up by himself with the cowboy sitting on the cow. It wouldn’t be practical to do it any other way. Over time, the horse learns to use his body effectively especially when holding big cattle.
It’s a longer conversation than we can address here. If you’re serious about teaching your horse to hobble, email me and leave your phone number...debpuckett@gmail.com.
Question, please: Brought home a yearling colt and coming 2 gelding to a 15 yr. old boss mare and 9 yr. old gelding. I put the two babies in a round pen adjacent to the pasture with the two older ones. I made the grave mistake of not closing the pasture gate that separates the older ones from the round pen, AND I didn't properly lock the round pen gate. So, after approx. 30 minutes I checked on them, and to my shock and horror I see the babies being chased and cornered by the mare and gelding. After I was able to put the mare away I locked the babies in the round pen again. A quick inspection of the babies showed that they were totally beat up!! They had bloody marks on their backs, sides, neck and legs.I'm SO UPSET with myself for not checking the locks on the gates. I've been calling myself the biggest retard all day!!! How long should I keep the babies separated from the older ones? Will this aggressive behavior subside eventually? Any guidance would be ever-so-greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!!!
First we never run mares and geldings together if possible. Especially if there’s one mare and several geldings. Sometimes you can get away with a few mares and one gelding but you need a big enough corral and no tight spaces where a horse can get trapped in like a run-in shed that isn’t open on both ends. Second we never run mature horses with young horses until the young horses are as big as the mature ones. For exactly the reason that you’ve just experienced. So bottom line is when everyone is grown, you’ll still have a dominant mare and three geldings that will always be vying for the mare. Now I’m sure you’ll hear multiple stories that contradict what I’m telling you. I’m just giving you my opinion from a ranching background.
@@PatnDebPuckett What you say makes perfect sense. Their size difference puts the little boys at a great disadvantage. I agree - we'll have multiple and varying opinions on this matter. Could another issue be that the little boy has not been castrated yet and the mare senses this? She acted the same way when we introduced our full grown gelding to her. He tried to mount her (once) and she let him know that this was unacceptable! Thank you for your prompt reply, especially when I'm sure you're as busy as we all are. God bless you.
I don’t know if the fact that the colt hasn’t been gelded yet is the issue. I just know that it’s not a good idea to mix them. If your gelding actually tried to mount her, that’s a red flag to me. A proud cut gelding is a huge nuisance. If he has aggressive behavioral issues, you might want to have him tested. The surgery to fix it is not cheap and often the behavior persists because it is just a habit at this point.
@@PatnDebPuckett Again, Thank you for your replies. But, you have never seen a fully gelded horse try to mount a mare who is in estrous? My horse is fully gelded, not proud cut. When I brought my mare home she was going through transitional estrous, and yes, my gelding tried to mount her. She let him know with a squeal and a kick in the air that he cannot do that. He hasn't tried since. Many geldings still drop and get an erection, even when they are fully gelded. I'm surprised you haven't seen this happen. And just to clarify, I did not intentionally allow my babies to have contact with the mare and gelding, especially not the day after I brought them home. I did put in my first post that it was by my mistake that they had contact. Thanks again for your advice.
I didn’t say I’d never seen it. I just said that it’s a red flag to me. The majority of the geldings we’ve owned don’t mount mares on the rare occasions that we run them together. You’re welcome...
How cool is this man, sitting on a chair teaching his horse important Things.....
Greatings from Germany
One of the big themes you'll see in Pat's Californio training is the concept of manana. It's a key element to finding the Way...
Another great video with great advice. Thank you Pat. Laura
Yeah, the big secret, always has been and always will be, PATIENCE !
OH, and some common sense thrown in! 😊
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Hence lies the problem..Common sense isnt common anymore...People dont have the Patience for common sense..It forces them to think and they cant Google it..
@@TightwadTodd
Yeah, so many of them just looking for instant gratification !
Not willing to put in a little work for it!
Great video as always, we appreciate you taking your time to release them based on questions from here, in saying that my first request would be I would love to see how you teach a horse leg cues on the ground and under saddle.
Glad I saw this months ago. It really came in handy here little while back tagging in the pasture ...I work on this every Sunday when things are slow and it takes patience which we all need ....many times older hands had to tell me to slow down watch out....these things really do help and I'm greatful he takes time to make these helpful videos
Thanks for sharing! I'm in Western Kentucky.
Thank you from mn
thank you so much for this video. im starting a calf horse and he is vey stubborn on the back. no trainer has ever explained things quite as well as you do.
Thanks for sharing. You are truly the Arnold Rojas of CZcams. Love the stories behind the methods.
Deb & Pat this is so helpful - my horses thank you:)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm hooked on your videos and learning so much!
I enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge. God bless.
thank you pat for sharing. huge help
from Colombia but I live in Ga USA thanks for your time
Please keep up the videos. Best stuff put out there in my opinion.
Great video. It fills in the gaps.
Thank You
Very Informative
From Medicine Hat Alberta
Thank you for this video, ill try it on my horse
Sweet! ❤️ Beautiful horse! 👍🙂 I’d rather ride a horse than a motorcycle, any day! ✌️❤️
Good knowledge,,, thank you
Thank you!
Man I love that hat. What kind is that
I love it
Thanks
My wife says thank you also....you saved my bacon pard
Pat have you ever had issues with horses pulling back/sitting back hard enough to undo the halter from the lead? I'm not sure if you've made a video on how you've set yours up.
Never had that happen.
Doing such a little to get so much done.
The link to www.thedisciplinedride.com.thank/ in your post does not work as written. (.Thank ) needs to be removed from the link in order for it to work. Just an FYI for anyone who uses the link instead of copy and paste.
Thanks for letting me know. I have it fixed now!
I DO teach my horses to back this way. I was just wanting you to comment on something I was told about this. About 25 years ago a trainer told me it wasn't a good idea to train a horse to back this way. He said it caused the horse to hollow out its back and raise it's head when it was backing up. He did not comment about an alternative method though.
The horse has to back up by himself with the cowboy sitting on the cow. It wouldn’t be practical to do it any other way. Over time, the horse learns to use his body effectively especially when holding big cattle.
How do you teach a horse to hobble?
It’s a longer conversation than we can address here. If you’re serious about teaching your horse to hobble, email me and leave your phone number...debpuckett@gmail.com.
When will you finish this series thanks from Mississippi
We’ll try to add Step Two in the next week or so. This mare, Rasberry, is ready for the next step...
Question, please: Brought home a yearling colt and coming 2 gelding to a 15 yr. old boss mare and 9 yr. old gelding. I put the two babies in a round pen adjacent to the pasture with the two older ones. I made the grave mistake of not closing the pasture gate that separates the older ones from the round pen, AND I didn't properly lock the round pen gate. So, after approx. 30 minutes I checked on them, and to my shock and horror I see the babies being chased and cornered by the mare and gelding. After I was able to put the mare away I locked the babies in the round pen again. A quick inspection of the babies showed that they were totally beat up!! They had bloody marks on their backs, sides, neck and legs.I'm SO UPSET with myself for not checking the locks on the gates. I've been calling myself the biggest retard all day!!! How long should I keep the babies separated from the older ones? Will this aggressive behavior subside eventually? Any guidance would be ever-so-greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!!!
First we never run mares and geldings together if possible. Especially if there’s one mare and several geldings. Sometimes you can get away with a few mares and one gelding but you need a big enough corral and no tight spaces where a horse can get trapped in like a run-in shed that isn’t open on both ends. Second we never run mature horses with young horses until the young horses are as big as the mature ones. For exactly the reason that you’ve just experienced. So bottom line is when everyone is grown, you’ll still have a dominant mare and three geldings that will always be vying for the mare. Now I’m sure you’ll hear multiple stories that contradict what I’m telling you. I’m just giving you my opinion from a ranching background.
@@PatnDebPuckett What you say makes perfect sense. Their size difference puts the little boys at a great disadvantage. I agree - we'll have multiple and varying opinions on this matter. Could another issue be that the little boy has not been castrated yet and the mare senses this? She acted the same way when we introduced our full grown gelding to her. He tried to mount her (once) and she let him know that this was unacceptable! Thank you for your prompt reply, especially when I'm sure you're as busy as we all are. God bless you.
I don’t know if the fact that the colt hasn’t been gelded yet is the issue. I just know that it’s not a good idea to mix them. If your gelding actually tried to mount her, that’s a red flag to me. A proud cut gelding is a huge nuisance. If he has aggressive behavioral issues, you might want to have him tested. The surgery to fix it is not cheap and often the behavior persists because it is just a habit at this point.
@@PatnDebPuckett Again, Thank you for your replies. But, you have never seen a fully gelded horse try to mount a mare who is in estrous? My horse is fully gelded, not proud cut. When I brought my mare home she was going through transitional estrous, and yes, my gelding tried to mount her. She let him know with a squeal and a kick in the air that he cannot do that. He hasn't tried since. Many geldings still drop and get an erection, even when they are fully gelded. I'm surprised you haven't seen this happen. And just to clarify, I did not intentionally allow my babies to have contact with the mare and gelding, especially not the day after I brought them home. I did put in my first post that it was by my mistake that they had contact. Thanks again for your advice.
I didn’t say I’d never seen it. I just said that it’s a red flag to me. The majority of the geldings we’ve owned don’t mount mares on the rare occasions that we run them together. You’re welcome...
Get a 4wheeler and call it a day.
I could just see some old cow dragging a 4 wheeler across the pasture...
@@PatnDebPuckett I'm trying to picture the dally... I suppose if you saddled the wheeler you'd at least have a horn. Wonder if 4wheelers get cinchy.
I’ve worked cattle that are used to outmaneuvering four wheelers. They are always surprised initially that they can’t get past my horse 😆