How strong is this Russian Titanium helmet? The Altyn Helmet
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
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This Russian Titanium Helmet is better known as the Altyn. The Altyn Helmet is frequently used among domestic counter terrorism units. In Today's video we test the strength of this Russian titanium helmet and put it to the test against common bullets in circulation.
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00:00 The Altyn Titanium Helmet Test Begins
00:57 The Altyn Helmet / K6-3 Helmet Test
2:30 Guns used in Test Benelli M4, Korth, Glock 17, URGI, MK18, AK47, SCAR H
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4:40 12 GA Birdshot vs Altyn Helmet Visor
6:03 Grenade Fragmentation vs Altyn Helmet Visor
8:58 12 GA 00 Buckshot vs Altyn Helmet Visor
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12:38 Glock 17 9mm 124 grains vs Altyn Helmet
14:58 Korth .44 Magnum vs Altyn Helmet (First round was rico, second round was dead on impact)
17:10 URGI M4 Block III 5.56x45 55 grain vs Altyn Helmet
18:50 MK18 CQBR Block II 5.56x45 55 grain vs Altyn Helmet (M855A1 not needed for this test)
21:50 AKM / AK47 7.62x39 122 grains vs Altyn Helmet
23:43 SCAR H / SCAR 17S 7.62x51 / 308 149 grains vs Altyn Helmet
24:19 Final Thoughts on the Altyn Helmet
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You played PUBG since you have that helmet!
Not OK my dude, Belarussian sponsor...I've been playing the game for 10 years but this is just not OK.
WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU GET A KORTH REVOLVER?!?!?!?!?!?! get the pistol they make as well its really cool. :)
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It’s pretty strong, takes around 3 shots from my rifle in ghost recon breakpoint before I kill them. Not sure how much more real world proof you need.
@@collinb.8542 she's not a dude , dude
Bruh, just use the mini sync shot drones on them. One and done.
Play smart not hard my man.
@@navidvahla8876 probably is a dude, whether it's the person on the pic or not
Lol
It's a damn shame all the Tom Clancy titles have become trash. I still play Wildlands (best ghost recon)
I think in EFT the devs said they buffed all helmets because almost no helmets can take rifle rounds and they wanted to incentivise people to actually use them.
This is precisely right. Most helmets are about 1 GOST rating higher than they should be (ratnik is ~2GOST irl and 3 ingame, the highcom striker is IIIA IRL which is GOST3, but is lv4 Ingame etc). Notable exceptions being ballistics visors, who are 2 GOST ratings higher on average. I say "about 1 higher" cus some of the helmets are in some sort of limbo between ratings irl.
Which is a bit silly considering PS12B fails to penetrate helmets incredibly often despite its pen value due to ricochet chance just being silly. That and .338 lapua magnum AP bouncing off of my tk fast mt at just about 100 metres is dumb but it saved me so I can't complain too much.
@@sovietrussia3632 Ricochet chance isn't really that high. It's based on angle of incidence for the bullet itself.
That as streamers did their usual bitching and complained enough to help influence the devs. Helmets were much better before, made people more likely to pick and choose their battles.
@@GreenSinic I'm pretty sure the chance is based on the cartridge stats and the "chance" listed on the stats of the helmet is the size of the zone which a ricochet roll will happen. As far as I'm aware it only rolls for a ricochet calculation depending on how close to the centre of the hitbox it hits and whether it is in the no ricochet zone or not.
For a better test, place the helmet on a representative dummy. This way the helmet does not just move immediately and absorb some of the energy.
We need ballistic gel head for clear experiment
Need an accelerometer to see if it would snap the wearer's neck, or if they could walk it off.
nahh just put it on Micah
@@razdog76 Small arms are extremely unlikely to snap your neck. They hit hard, but the initial damage is caused by the concentration of the force on a small point. Then velocity/cavitation causes internal damage to the target.
@@Rob-bn9ib he means that commonly when you shoot someone who is wearing body armour the ribs can snap because although the bullet did not enter the enegery violently pushes the plate back and bulges it causing heavy bruising and some internal damage and on a human head it would push the head back extremely hard possibly breaking vertabre
16:23 in 2014 I was in basic training at Fort Benning. We had a drill named Sgt. Batt. He had a helmet on his desk with a hole in it. We later found out he was shot with that helmet over seas and it slowed the bullet down enough to do minor surface damage to his head. You could still see the scar on the back of his head when he turned around.
One of the wisest drills we had though. When teaching he explained things but also gave you the reason behind the lessons.
That's badass as fuck!
It should be said right away that this helmet was made in 1984 for the needs of the police, not the army. They were intended to equip various police units. They are designed to resist those models of weapons that were criminals in the USSR in the 70s and 80s. These were PM and TT pistols and handicrafts made from hunting shotguns. Much has changed in weapons since then.
Much changed yes, but not in Russia, as we all can see...
@Black Mountain Works
The material tanking the shot isn't hard the problem is the wearer still taking a significant amount of force to the head
@@ch0kehazard Same goes for America buddy, same goes for America
@@Rob-cy5xj THE US never changes? Uhhh….
@Black Mountain Works correct.
These helmets were originally designed for the police and OMON special units, and they were designed to be able to let a policeman survive an ambush by protecting his head from one to two rounds before ducking into cover. Spetsnaz used to use them for the same reason but they have since moved on and adopted a different helmet more suited to modern Special Operations.
Very informative comment :D
KGB also used them
Correction: Spetsnaz still use them in significant numbers, but it has been officially phased out of production. Similar designed helmets are used, but this one is obsolete even if still in use.
@@pubcle it's not in use by special forces since 2000s. There are modern helmtes ЗШ-1, ЗШ-1-2М, Рысь-Т, Витязь, Вулкан.
Also weren't meant to be worn for more than 45 minutes or an hour.
It might stop the bullet but you might end up with a concussion or sore neck! My father told me the story of one of his the men in his squad (WWII) getting hit in his M1 helmet. The round hit at an angle and circled all the way around before dropping down his pal's shirt. It actually cut the helmet liner in half and scarred the inside of the helmet. Who knows if my dad was feeding me a line of crap or not. Either way it was a good story and it stuck with me. Bullets can do all sorts of weird things.
BTW, my dad also said the British liked our helmet better because you could cook in our helmet!
Hmm concussion or brain removal. Hmm what to choose.
Yes, the WWII steel helmet was useful for lots of things such as cooking, shaving as well as head protection. The new helmets have lost all those benefits.
@@hughgray4199 I mean in the Serbian army you get a mess tin to take with you always.
And honestly its the most important part of the kit.
Make anything in it.
as the saying says, better dead that head ache.
@@hughgray4199 modern helmets are way more effective and lighter then ww2 steel helmets it’s like saying medieval plate armour is more effective then a Plate carrier
Pardon me, if I am not mistaken this is an old, anti handgun helmet for city special forces (police). It was not designed to stop rifle bullets
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Im pretty sure the original purpose mainly included counter terrorism, so the weight is less of an issue as you are not wearing it weeks on end, same like the rifle rated shields that agencies like SWAT, GIGN Etc use. Sure they stop bullets but nobody in their right mind is going to drag one of those through a desert for months
Yup, basically the same as the IIIa clear shields most US swat use as well. Your biggest threats are stuff like handguns.
That was the idea.
maybe wtch the whole vid this is said at the end
Wait, how does this video become a trending for gaming?
@@blipblop1112 Tarkov maybe?
I love how daddy Garand is single handedly changing pop culture by accurately referring to the AKM instead of the AK47 as the world most common rifle. Same same, but *different.*
I’M DOING MY PART
really? me and some of my friends did reffer to AKM as AKM and other AK's as their own variants. Doubt anyone with knowledge would call a non AK47 a AK47.
@@noobguy9973 dude everyone refers to it as ak47 have u n ur friends lived in a diff timeline
@@ceroew4239 ye
I just call them kalashnikovs
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In the helmets defense, the bullets probably wouldn’t have gone through the other side if a head was inside it.
Glass half full.
Helmet would be half full too.
@@alkaholic4848 haaa
Glass half full, head now half empty.
@@brody7688 hahahahaha
Yeah the bullet would have stopped in the head 🤣 science
I've heard the most important part of a special forces unit is having heavy gear that reduces mobility and visibility.
Rule of cool
Life matter
Nah definitely the light sticks.
They may have a different viewpoint of what "special forces" are. Stealthy, mobile, efficient is one way to go, but overwhelming firepower and nigh unbreakable armor is another.
@@strixt they do a combination of the two because they have a ballistic shield and the helmet but they might only use those for stuff like counter terrorism and they also probably have different units that do and don’t use it
I keep hearing them talking about the neck, but honestly, the job of the altyn is to protect the head and face, now the job of the 6B45 (the body armor that pairs with it) is to protect the neck, body, and shoulders.
Very nice video! Thank you very much for sharing this information and tests!! : )
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So GarandThumb's "SURPRISE GRENADE" wasn't real?!
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You can own a grenade,
you are just not allowed to.
which is only a problem if you give a shit
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What? I thought you could go through the whole destructive device registering thing. Give the ATFE some money for a serial number. Report to them after it's been detonated or safed. And voila!! Grenade! I'm wrong?
I watched a video from a factory developing helmets in Russia. there, an employee said: we have reached the point in development that we can create completely impenetrable helmets, but then the impact force causes a compression injury to the brain and the person still does not survive.
Maybe like riot helmets where they have foam padding on the inside?
Well at least it'll be open cacket but still died from headshot related injuries 😥
@@Foreskin-Bandit nothing will stop the force from a big enough round giving you brain damage or breaking your neck even with a bunch of padding. Unless we get to exoskeletons or something
@@dritzdemon2243 While that is correct, couldn't padding help with slightly larger rounds?
@@Foreskin-Bandit Depends on the round...stopping 30-06 even with padding, well maybe the padding will help keep your skull in tact. Stopping a .50bmg? No amount of reasonable padding is saving your skull
Было конечно тяжело переводить и смотреть видео, но обзор мне понравился. Алтын не плохо себя проявил, как шлем, разработанный для спецназа. Спасибо за видос
В яндекс-браузере есть опция, которая на ходу переводит и озвучивает англ.видосы.
не знать английский в 23 году...
@@jackthepopper666 ну ну я смотрю у тебя уровень английского на уровне носителя?
@@user-ui4ev2fk1z da ya angliiski ochen xorosho znayu, prym pizdec ti axyeew esli budesh znat' eng takje kak ya, prosto shock YA BY SKAZAL PIZDA BLYAT' NAMOTANAYA NA KULAK, KAPISH?? BLYAT' PIDRILIO HUESOSO AXYYYYET' NE ZNAT ANGL V 23 GODU, KOGDA EGO V SHKOLE UCHAT, TI TYPA XYI SOSAL VO VREMYA UROKOV, A ILI 4TO, A?? CHTO TI DELAL A
@@user-ui4ev2fk1z а что за тема сочинения была, а?
Do this test again with the same helmet and a ballistic labs head so we can fully see the effects
These tests are missing shock stickers to see how much force is on the other end of that helmet / vest
Force is not very relevant, equal opposite reasons. Blunt force damage is only relevant in deforming armor like ceramic, and it’s point damage, such as your skull receiving a small (but potentially deadly) radial fracture a couple inches in diameter from backface deformation. Breaking your neck has always been a myth.
Quick, someone call the Hyneman.
You'd probably be fine since the round needs to hit the helmet, then transfer that force through the suspension system, and then actually hit or twist your head. Without sufficient backface deformation to actually contact your noggin you'd probably be fine since Newton's Third Law states that the force exerted on the helmet cannot be greater than the force exerted through recoil (obviously this isn't technically true but it's close enough). That round looses a lot of force when it hits the helmet, and the helmet not being rigidly attached to the head means that the suspension system dissipates a good bit of it before you feel it on your noggin.
Lmao what is Verlisify doing hear
@@superjay5023 this video is #35 trending on gaming
GT: *makes a whole video on not breathing/ingesting lead*
Also GT: *puts on shot up helmet covered in lead and glass dust*
It was in the name of science
Trust the science, bro
@@daygus1115 - haha, I was gonna say "but it was 'for science'".
I have a friend who took a round to his helmet (not sure what type) by turning on his light on his helmet. prob hit by a sniper. he said it was instant KO, but he woke up fine, just a bad headache and prob a concussion. And yes, he is kinda slow, but not sure if it has anything to do with the helmet shot. He just got stupid lucky. prob got in a lot of shit for that from his unit for giving away their position in the night.
Well he did wake up, the alternative isn't that great
@@chrisaddy4604 he would not know that though. It's not that bad.
@@back_to_white you don't know I am guessing it's bad and you can guess it's not but you and I do not know yet but we will....but we will....dammit
When you say kinda slow do you mean mentally or physically?
@@skinnybub5237 mentally
Love these videos mate, brilliant humour
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While I understand it’s not monetarily viable to buy a new helmet for each test, I think it’s important to remember that every time you shoot something like this, especially the visor, the material experiences fatigue. It’s possible (not guaranteed) that if they’d started with buckshot the visor might have survived.
That’s true for the visor, but the helmet itself isn’t really going to experience a meaningful drop in protective capacity unless it hits right near another whole
@@CoconutMigrating It depends on the metal. I don’t know what kind of titanium this thing is made out of, but I guess you’re mostly right. It really bothers me when people do this sort of escalating test with ceramic or composite plates though.
@@suspiciouscheese4518 itrs made out of titanium, as said in the video, not steel
@@urfork1 My bad, I’ve edited the comment but the point still stands.
Yes this, it happens all the time in alot of tests. especially against bulletproof glass. All Materials experience stress fatigue and a crack or hole in a part of the glass for example changes the whole math. The whole structure is now compromsied and its capacities need to be re-evaulted. If for example it can withstand N newtons of force when its intact. A small crack or hole in the glass from a previous shot changes the N number. and all these materials have so many layers on top of each other that all do specific things and been engineered in very precise ways to achieve results. Any deviation from the standard will effect the N number. Its pretty simple and something people should keep in mind that all these tests where they use the same product, while financial feasable, is not infalliable and shouldnt be taken as 100% scientifically accurate.
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I love how this whole video is basicly a bug report to Nikita.
This just makes me feel even more confident in the power of metal over kevlar helmets. the visor was kinda a let down, but the helmet portion definitly took the hits a little better than when I watched your video on the modern kevlar helmets.
I'd love to see how a helmet with a similar idea to this one, only instead of kevlar with a titanium shell, maybe a steel shell with a spall catching layer like some other armor plates have. Definitly would feel confident and safe wearing something like that over just kevlar
Stationed with a guy who took one to the dome. He was wearing the tanker helmet riding on the turret. Dude shot from a tower and the round impacts just above the lip and ripped up the helmet around the curve. Broke his neck and another tank turned and obliterated the tower with a HEAT round.
Broke his neck as in he died right? I feel like some of those pistol rounds could break a neck.
@@visionaryfirearmsllc9999 nope. It was a hairline fracture and the impact put him in sleep mode for a bit. I saw the helmet and they did a story on him because he has 3 separate purple hearts. The scares from the IED blast were extensive.
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I was curious, the Brits have a HESH round, functions quite nicely as both anti-light armor and personnel. Did Americans use heat primarily for anti-personnel?? I know they have multi-purpose these days.
Angle of attack was definitely one of the biggest elements for the 7.62 result. But it would at least catch a glancing 7.62, which is still decent, but not reliable. But as before mentioned, not a rifle rated helmet.
Precisely
I wish they compared a glancing blow with 5.56, to see if it could have stopped one, and also a flush 7.62 hit, to see if it could get through.
@@Oldsmobility98 I highly doubt It would have stopped a 55 grain 5.56 round at any angle. That speed
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 i would put my money on the ricochet for the 55gr despite the speed for one reason, bullet size/weight. AoI of 45° or more I would say almost consistent ricochets, 30-45° it might get sketchy and anything under a 30° impact angle would still pen. I've witnessed 55gr from a 16" barrel ping off of a 1" post that we used to staple targets to. Speed kills but the angle at which that speed impacts matters too.
@@ArgolasBowmaster I agree with you to an extent. I've shot enough junk sh*t in my day to know that a 5.56 coming in at anything between 90 and 45 degrees is going to penetrate. Obviously the wider the angle, the more shelfing on entry which slows it down considerably AFTER it penetrates the first barrier. 7.62x39 produces similar results but the angle of consistent penetration is noticeably smaller. Probably something like 90 - 65 degrees for consistent penetration... It's not easy to stop a 55 grain 5.56 round but 7.62x39 is more devastating on bare flesh. 7.62x51 (308) is a beast too
Very cool video, enjoyed it a lot
It could cause a head trauma or some internal bleeding due to the impact. I think so, but I thought the resistance of a helmet was really cool
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This helmet is designed for stormtroopers when clearing buildings. It provides excellent protection against small calibers and fragments. Not a single helmet in the world will save from intermediate cartridges like 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56X45 and above. It’s definitely not worth running through the trenches in it - there’s no point. Greetings from Russia.
Hey comrade! They should make the test with P-36M. They are really think that russia possibly can attack? And they right. But not like this way. History says it's US started almost all wars in a past 120 years. US is a real agressor. Hello from Syberia.
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@Joseph Burnside It would seem that NATO's advance to the east has nothing to do with it - right to the borders of Russia. And don't tell me that NATO is a "defensive alliance". From whom to defend? From reptilians? Or from Yugoslavia? For any person with a brain, it is obvious that NATO is an anti-Russian alliance and is crawling to the borders of Russia not for peaceful purposes. To make it clearer, Russia is now in Ukraine defending itself from NATO. We are defending our country and we will do it until complete Victory. We have nowhere to retreat, and if necessary, we will fight with the whole world, we have already done this more than once. It is you who climb to us every 100 years - another "hegemon" who imagines himself the master of the world, read history. You have no idea where you are going. Do you think we will allow ourselves to be strangled by sanctions and will calmly watch how we are surrounded by military bases? No. We learned lessons from the past, we remember the USSR. We will strike first if we are forced and then everyone will fly. Who told you that you can teach us how we should live? ))) Who appointed you in charge? We will fire you.
P.S. Ukraine received its statehood from Russia, like half of the countries of Eurasia, the very concept of "Ukrainians" was coined only at the beginning of the 20th century. In fact, Russians live there. Ukraine and Russia are like China and Taiwan. This is one nation divided by politicians.
@Joseph Burnside since 2014 how many dead kids in Donetsk an Lugansk? Thanks ukraine armed forces. Check this "angels alley donetsk". They killed kids. I have nothing to say. I against war but amerikans loves it too much... Vietnam, Panama, Dominicana, Iraq, Afganistan, Korea... US is true agressor
@@slipknnnot I just tuck lvl 4 side plates under my red bandana
The intro song and animation to these is just priceless
Great video thanks ✌🏻 ❤️ 🙏🏻
Always a trade off between weight (speed/mobility/endurance) and protection. Same as back in 03 I was wearing soft armour with plates and PASGT. Mobility sucked, it weighed a bit, you’d overheat. Plate carriers and new helmets are trade offs, I prefer carriers TBH huge improvement in comfort, durability, reliability and less chance of heat exhaustion.
Yeah if you're talking IBA, that was crazy heavy and hot. Big issue was that it's basically a full vest that traps in the heat rather than letting some air get in there. Lots of guys who could get away with it opted for RBA instead that was lighter and way cooler.
too long didn't read
@@seth_vh9916 then go to tiktok, that wasn't long at all
@@seth_vh9916 idk if you can read bro
arent pasgt like 1980s gen1 anti ballistic armour? i mean, for the time our grandads wouldve been spewing seeing us able to tank a projectile flying at 800m/s seeing as though my great uncles knew how it felt having a 8mm round tearing through their chest. the only thing they had were little pots to deflect explosions which are the majority of casualties
It may be bulletproof with pistols with the padding on, but the kinetic energy would still hit you like a headbutt.
No doubt
@@GarandThumb :D
Yeah ,Better pain than dead
I've been hit in the pate (top of the head) with a paintball, and actually saw stars. It doesn't take much.
Not to mention that speed of deacceleration will give u mega concussion lol.
Love your videos!!! Thank you.
That helmet faired far better than I imagined!
Got to show this to my friend Noah one day
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He graduated top of his class at the Ho Chi Minh City school of medicine.
He's said this many, many times.
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In full larp, cinematic slow mo, smoke, sounds and explosions?
@@warrenharrison9490 yes please
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Would have liked to see a ballistics head in the helmet but great work as always Doc.
Great intro. Love it
From the looks of them, I always just assumed these helmets were made of steel, rifle rated, and weighed about as much as a bowling ball
My exact same impression
From how Russia's military performs, I always just assumed their helmets were made of paper.
@@FroggerbobT lol salty Ukrainian. In ww2 Germany was known for having the thickest armor on tanks and almost everything else. Also known to have the biggest guns. 2nd place was Russia. USA 3RD. That mentality still runs true. Russia prefers thicker armor and a bigger gun, reliablility, less reliance on technology. mobility/speed is moderate. Modern Germany has gone the high speed, moderate sized main gun, moderately armored and relies on technology. USA copied Germany's main battle tank. So same capabilities just lower profile (slightly) and probably not as thick of armor.
@@nightmarezero8465 I think you completely missed his joke man. He was just joking about how many Russians die in war because they just run head first into battle.
@@nightmarezero8465 okay nerd
These helmets were designed for storming buildings with narrow corridors, when you go behind a shield and risk a hail of 7.62 bullets
Cool I was thinking something like swat or bomb squad kind of units would use them by the looks of it...
@@jonathanbair523 the russian SWAT perhaps which is OMON
@@stayhigh66
Russian SWAT is SOBR
OMOH is more like local militia
@@stayhigh66 More like alpha/vympel, they are the military sf
A hail of bullets from Russian babushka.
would be awesome to see that test with ballistic gelatine!
love the SCAR sound so much
In general, I agree with the conclusion about the helmet.
"Altyn" is perfect for its tasks and provides an acceptable level of protection with a relatively small weight. Now this helmet has been replaced by more modern models, but it still continues to be used in the Russian special forces.
But I would like to know - will there be tests on a real HEAVY HELMET called "Volcano-5"?
According to available data, this helmet is able to withstand hits from a Kalashnikov AKM assault rifle and a Dragunov SVD sniper rifle from a distance of 10 meters.
Well the helmet might withstand that, but i doubt that wearer's neck will.
Ti pro SFERU govorish ?
@@philipcoffman4372 no.
@@Red_Mauserу нас в бригаде хотели сделать отряд по борьбе с терроризмом в 90х ...5 офицеров 2 срочника я и ещё там пряник. 2,5 месяца дрочили в сферах , а потом сказали " нет, не попрёт, есть профессионалы как Альфа или Вымпел , а вы едьте в чечню со 173 отрядом . В дагестан вернее 97 год . Конец 97го .
Где они возьмут вулкан, ты шутишь.
I recall that when they developed the M16A2 one of the requirements of the new round (M855) was that it penetrates a Soviet helmet at 600 yards. We were still more focused on the probability of fighting the Soviet Union in Europe. When I was stationed at Fort Bragg at the 82nd Museum there was a Kevlar helmet with a 7.62X39MM bullet lodged in it from the Grenada invasion. The story was that a paratrooper had fallen asleep and IIRC got left behind and while lying there got hit by an enemy soldier firing at him. The rest is vague, but I seem to recall that he did survive and got back home and the helmet did save him. Bear in mind, this was back in the mid to late 80s when I was there, so the full story may be vague. However, the helmet with round was there and the basic story. Kind of funny how things have come back around and now we are concerned with penetrating Russian helmets. :) P.S. That helmet with the shield makes me think of Bender from Futurama.
The story I was told (by a Grenada vet who knew the guy) the round in the helmet didn't kill him...but the 7 rounds in his back did...
Thanks for the clarification. I took that part with a grain of salt when the guy at the museum said it. Stands to reason that if you got hit with one round that there would be more coming your way that would probably get you.
Just for the record. I hated that K pot. Just coming off a 12 road march you would have to turn your whole body because you couldn't move your neck for hours.
zzz zzz zzz
First time I had to work titanium was on a Hughes 500. That shit is really strong and has some quite different metallurgical qualities. It eats drill bits that aren't made for it, and yes it will crack before it stretches, but it doesn't stretch much. Very strong, durable stuff.
Lessons learned: concussion is better than bullet in the brain
This helmet model is quite old, it was made in one of the USSR's military institutes (НИИ Стали) for KGB spec-ops units. That institute also worked on stuff like BMP aluminum armor, reactive armor for tanks, armor plates for bulletproof vests, special steels for tank armor, etc. And originally the Altyn helmet design was copied (with minor tweaks) from TIG PSH-77 helmets made by an Austrian company, Ulbrichts. It's currently just outdated by all modern accounts, hence the ridiculous weight-to-effectiveness ratio.
Над чем они там насмехаются постоянно?
@@Bronze_Paladin В целом весь юмор о том, что эта хреновина безумно тяжёлая и очень дорогая для своего уровня защиты. Но ребята просто не в курсе, что шлем, во-первых, старый, а во-вторых, продается на гражданке только в ворованном виде за бешеные бабки. Поэтому и дикий ценник и большой вес.
А так не сказал бы, что они насмехаются. Защиту от 9мм и .44 даже похвалили. Ну а то, что его 5.56 прострелил - и неудивительно. Ни один шлем толком не держит автоматные и винтовочные пули в реальности.
Totally can imagine it was a beast back at its days, now people thought of more ways to kill each other.
@@trantus2051 If I had to storm a building I'd love to wear.
@@vadimk3484 на момент старта серийного производства может быть и выдержал бы, но сейчас все-таки 2022й, разработчики и производители боеприпасов не стоят на месте.
I believe it was Wolfenstein that proved to me that a helmet like that should take like 70 rounds of 7.92x33 before anything substantial happens
@AUDREY wtf type of shit are u on
That game is in the future though. Nazis even have an installation on Venus.
@@Galil-aces They are bots dude. Auto generating crap and AI makes the accounts and spams the links for ad revenue/spyware downloads. Report them at least once to try and help the situation in someway.. I’ve noticed after I report an account they are totally deleted from the rest of the comments around 6 hours later, so it’s just a back and forth battle. Definitely not real humans posting or even making the accounts.
@@agentmueller thanks saw alot of comments like that on content like this weird there mostly on the ones that even mention the current conflict in ukraine or abt russia
Uhm actually those helmets are made from the magic space jew metal that makes them impervious to bullets... Obviously.
The thing about helmets is that there spherical, meaning its highly likely to ricochet rounds, especially rounds that strike them at an angle or glance it, you mix that with dense metal like titanium and you get one hell of a barrier
+10 points for using C&C Hellmarch Soundtrack in this video!
Titanium has an elongation at break of 54%, which is pretty well up there in terms of ductility for metals. Steels get maybe half of that, but stainless can get pretty far up there. That is to say that titanium should be good at deforming before breaking. I wonder what sort of other materials are used nowadays.
Mostly Kevlar
Check out demo ranch I think he has a vid on it actually
It's kevlar and alloys composite
@@Cosmo_Gaming-ly2fc Kevlar is only used mainly by police and some riot units.
However its practically useless in warfare, because it can only stop pistol rounds and bird shot.
Composite plate carriers are used in modern militaries but the plates are thick and heavy.
Kevlar is nice though for its light weight and it's flexible. Its useful for police units because they usually don't have to worry about being shot by a rifle.
Kevlar is much easier to wear for longer periods of time.
The only reason Specnaz and such is still using it - it has high richochet chance and protects from fragments flying around in a tight fight. I also heard this helmet is like a relic veterans give to the new warriors for thier first missions.
Moments before they get fucking domed by Ukrainian freedom fighters hopefully.
@@toomanybrews7123 bro wtf...
@@toomanybrews7123 UNBELIEVABLY BASED
@@raifparker3990 - with a friend in Ukraine, I'm totally with TooManyBrews on this one.
If Russian soldier doesn't want to get "domed", he can hitchhike back to Russia.
As the one guy pointed out, a ricochet can be very bad if it hits your buddy next to ya instead of the way modern materials could catch the round.
That 80’s intro needs to be on every video
I wonder if you could replace the visor with modern bulletproof glass and layer some type of hard armor over the outside or soft inside to strengthen it but that would get heavy fast.
3mm thickness to stop 1000+fps lead projectiles is actually pretty impressive. You can only make it so thick before it becomes impractical for mobility. I'd like to see what a solid 3/8" titanium alloy like an ati-425 carrier plate would be able to stop. Titanium alloy armor plate I think is more of a cost issue vs a "dated" thing, since it's used on the worlds most high tech machines including air and spacecraft.
Titanium alone is not goodly God armor. There better usage for that metal and better materials for helmets.
Seeing pictures of a lot of dead Russian soldiers. The equipment can't be that good
We need some Beskar or Vibranium PPE.
@@the_LuckyPenny good idea man
@@jannejohansson3383 Titanium alone is not great just like copper alone wasn't yet add a bit of tin and you change the world. Alloy in some tungsten and that titanium becomes Godly, given no soldir is worth the cost Russia is pushing it with this helmet.
"If the Russians put ice cubes in our M4's we could be in for a fight." Dr. Thumb
Return to 1956 from 2022. Man! You are a damn genius!
@GarandThumb love to see what happens when you turn the bullet around. They did that back in WW2 to penetrate armour.
If you guys want some more info on these helmets or other soviet/ russian helmet and plates/ vests + ballistic test on it, check Oxide`s channel. Flannel daddy mentioned him in the beginning ;)
Fuck oxide
@@arighteousname5882 Hoes mad
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@@arighteousname5882 why do you dislike oxide? did he do something bad
He probably got mad he actually tested how good 5.7/ 4.6mm is at armor piercing instead of claiming it's good because Wikipedia said so; and he showed how mediocre the Altyn helmet actually is.
You should test the most common helmets:
Team Wendy, ops core, air frame, etc
Man, in my decade I only ever got the cool ACH. Fuck I had a DCU pattern IBA issued to me. Active duty hand me down shit
I hope this is sarcasm. Lol
caimen would be cool to
mf plying too much tarkov
Okay so maybe my wording of "most common" isn't correct, but I'd still be interested to see
i love what garand thumb wears in his videos
It's not an Altyn helmet. The Altyn helmet has radio communication. The connection is at the back of the helmet. The PTT button is on the left. The replica in this video is probably not an accurate replica. It's also possible that it's a simplified Mask-1 helmet. It's a simplified Mask 1 helmet with an off-brand visor.
Это не шлем "Алтын". У шлема "Алтын" есть радиосвязь. Подключение - сзади шлема. Кнопка PTT - слева. В этом видео вероятно не очень точная реплика. Еще возможно, что это упрощенный шлем "Маска-1". На который надели нештатное забрало.
Этот шлем для Адресной работы, круговая защита в первую очередь, должна была защищать не от пуль, а от осколков, например, когда вы находитесь в коридоре и по вам стреляют, алтын сможет остановить рикошет от стены винтовочного калибра( с большей вероятностью, чем от прямого выстрела) и сопутствующие осколки в виде крошки, оболочки и т.д. + его использовали с щитом, Гаранд правильно сказал, что если пуля прилетает под углом, то пуля уходит в рикошет, поэтому в сочетании Щит+Алтын эта система работала потрясающе. Для своего времени был очень хороший шлем.
P.S. Он уже давно на вооружении не стоит, его заменили на те же Ops-core, ЗШ, РЫСЬ и т.д.
That makes sense.
хоть один умный человек
@@STALKER-dg6vf I'm smart too
Historical accuracy of World of Tanks.
Proceeds to show tank flying over a jump to spin and shoot while in the air.
HISTORICAL
well he did say historical not realistic
This was awesome!!
i love guns this is my 2 vidoe i have watched and i love this guys vids
I absolutely love the honesty and the educational value that you guy's put into your videos!👍👍👍
Indeed very educational.
Yes, education... That's why I watch this. Not at all to get my private time with daddy thumb
Altyn is classified as level 5 protection by Soviet/Russian standards. Most 7.62 rifle ammo can pen lvl 6 at point blank. I doubt there's a helmet that can take a .308 armor piercing with no problem.
Well there probably is but it would snap your neck when you try to look around
Altyn must protect from 7.62x25 and 9x18
@@theret2090 well duh, every 2+ armor class can stop a soft pistol bullet.
@@user-li5cr6wv5b It was these requirements that were set for the development of Altyn
он второго класса)
For the situation for which the helmet might be used in combat. I would also consider a different version of that helmet. I would consider a different version of that helmet for a different tactic in warfare. I would take some components of it away, and add different elements to mitigate the affects of impact to the soldier.
Such as...?
@GarandThumb knows his trajectory @7:02 I was like why are you moving it.... He had it right the first time.
"I know some of you are worried about the Russians I'm not "
the only reassurance I need from mr. Garandthumb
All I know is .. the people who are saying putin is bad .. have shown me they are completely untrustworthy..
@@BillyBob-wq9fl what
@@BillyBob-wq9fl Glory and strength to Ukraine!
@@bravo6959 You have to realize the real Ukrainian government was overthrown by the EU and they installed a literal comedian in charge. The government did not train any of its citizens, they let the inner circle of political elite leave the country while everyone else has to stay and they call them "volunteers", and they hand weapons to civilians without any training, which literally makes them combatants of war so when they get killed they can claim Russia is killing civilians.
This whole thing is caked with psyop from all sides. I mean you should have realized something was up when Putin out of nowhere just says he is invading to stop Nazis, literally using the democrat's go to label, next to racism/sexism.
@thickock45 >"Democracy matters!"
>Donetsk votes
>"No not that democracy!"
Yeah but you didn’t test what the face shield looks like after it eats bullets and then you repair it. We need an answer to the age old question about whether or not face shield repairs in Tarkov work like IRL?!
Uncle Veritas?!?
He'd need to walk out of the range, come back, take it off the helmet and pick it up, spin around three times, put it down, hit it with a hammer, disconnect from the internet, restart his recording twice, and then put it back on the helmet to see if it was actually fixed. It might be a bug otherwise.
Cool to see you here, looking forward to the next episode of the Pogcast!
Gagging for that recognition
@@OtterMusician So you're saying there's a chance?
It is FUBAR, as you guys like to say)
It can be replaced, not repaired.
Awesome video but I just need to correct one error. The technical designation for this particular helmet is "level 3".
12:59
As an army man from experience, I can say that a Bang can reflect any ballistic missile. You're good.
I think the helmet is better than what is shown here. Garand obviously buffed the rounds in a ghost update on location after the .44 failed to pen. Lol.
Never question Nikita.
When I was in the submarine force I remember studying Russian submarines, they used titanium hulls that were strong and could go very deep but only do it once because of titaniums lack of ability to “flex” and would get stress fractures over time. We used a different type of steel that had that ability.
They did not use titanium hulls on the majority of their submarines, limiting factor being price. To my knowledge only four titanium hulled submarines were built for the Soviet Navy - one each of the Mike and Papa classes as well as the Alfa class. And I feel like the "dive deep once" thing is not true; research submersibles like Alvin have logged thousands of dives with titanium hull designs, although I acknowledge that these submersibles are more optimized to diving deep due to their small size and more spherical construction.
you did not use titanium because you still have not learned how to connect it by electric welding
@@user-up6gf3xm1y Don't know how much it has improved by now but welding Titanium really is a pain in the ass.
@@tapist3482 shh, soviet engineering superior to capitalist engineering.
@@user-up6gf3xm1y Check out the SR-71. Titanium welding was perfected by the US in the 60’s. We just didn’t advertise it since we bought all the titanium from the Soviet Union through third party sources.
I always have the feeling that he’s going to scream: L.M.G;MOUNTED, AND LOADED!!!!
In the early 1980s, the external and internal situation of the USSR became sharply complicated. Against the background of the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan, the country's leadership feared that the Moscow Olympics could be overshadowed by a terrorist attack similar to the Munich events of 1972. At the same time, workers' unrest began in Poland, a key country of the Soviet bloc. Therefore, in 1980, the Research Institute of Steel received an order to develop a new helmet for special operations. The Altyn helmet was created "in the image and likeness" of the Swiss Tig PSH-77 armor helmet, a batch of which was purchased for the KGB of the USSR in the late 1970s. The Western novelty proved itself perfectly in Kabul, when Soviet special forces stormed Amin's palace. However, even Andropov's department could not afford to spend scarce currency on the permanent purchase of this helmets. Therefore, the task was set for domestic engineers: to make a helmet of the 2nd class of protection (Russian classification) no worse than the Swiss one, only cheaper. To facilitate the work for the "Research Institute of Steel", the KGB "shared" with him the technology of manufacturing a titanium helmet of the Austrian company Ulbrichts that fell into the hands of Soviet agents. Altyn is designed specifically for special forces, it has proven itself well in anti-terrorist operations (I will remind you that the first special forces soldier, in addition to a helmet and a bulletproof vest, has a shield, the rest of the special forces soldiers hide behind it - this increases the survival rate of the fighters). However, against rifle bullets and 7.62/5.56, this helmet does not save well, it is more designed to protect against pistol bullets, shrapnel and shotgun shot (this was the main range of ammunition for terrorists in the 70s and 80s). This helmet came out of mandatory Special forces equipment in 2014. It was replaced by the helmets "Lynx-T" (the development of "Altyn"), "Shako", "Spartan" - they are lighter (this is very important when worn for a long time) and they provide greater freedom of movement. In Russia, experiments were conducted to create a helmet capable of withstanding rifle bullets, but such kits are not widely used and are rarely in demand (the problem is that such a helmet must necessarily come complete with heavy and uncomfortable armor and be attached in a special way so that the cervical vertebra does not break when a bullet hits).
Thank you for info.
Yeah
do you know the name of the helmet and armor that can stop 7.62 ammo?
Everybody already knew that.
But, seriously...
Thanks for the info. Golden in worth and light to carry, is knowledge.
Thank you was wondering what there specific purpose was
"This is a 6000 dollar revolver"
*lays it on a fucking boulder*
It's not a boulder!
It's a rock!
Can't believe he put it on a rock instead of or something!
@@somekindakaiser8339 technically a boulder is a loose stone that is greater than 10 inches across so that would be considered a boulder
@@somekindakaiser8339 It's not a rock, it's a mineral... :D :D
@@Idiotboxxx nerd
15:42 that 44 SLAPPED That titanium harddddd!¡!!!°°° #yolo #SLAPPED great video 📹 👏 👍 👌 🙌 ......
"I'm not allowed to own a grenade because....BullSHit...."
I subscribed....lmfao.
This is Mike's way to show the Ukrainians how good the Russian Spetsnaz's ballistic armor is
Sounds thick enough to arm an AT rocket, just sayin. 😆
They got new shit recently they ain't all use that helmet much
@@bombsawaylemay770 what are you?
K6-3s are not used in the field anymore since like 2005
@@bombsawaylemay770 and Putin married his daughter to one of them, your point being?
I think that with the advancements made in helmet technology, a ballistic neck brace might be needed to save people from broken vertebrae.
Then we run into the problem of modularity vs practicality the same problem the dod ran into during the mid 2000s
Not to mention not every war is gonna be patrolling in vehicles and open desert or plains or tundras.
Those who fought in forrests and jungles and long foot patrols would want to be able to be very mobile and able to swivel their heads as well as going full prone or trying to use what every they can as a rest and cover. Imagine trying to lay flat and you can’t cuz of some neck brace. I’m
No one. Ima 28 years old gun smith who lives in his moms basement ahah. I just drink a lot with my Dad (he’s not military either) and his vietnam/desert storm vet buddies and history teacher buddies. You learn a lot shutting up and listening to drunk old warriors 😎
@@GunGnome_ The brace doesn't necessarily have to be bulky or cumbersome. It would be more like a chain that connects your helmet to your vest that wont permit your head to move in a jerk sufficient to break your neck or give you whiplash.
@@Justowner it it AINT broke don’t fix it bud. Sounds like more complications.
@@GunGnome_ it is broke. Mainly because people still die from being shot in the head
the tarkov shout out made my day
Damn this Video was dope👍🏽
The thing is atlyn helm was never actually ment to take modern day bullets but back when they first made it to was very effective non the less it was very good for its initial time frame
It's not about era, it's about power. A 30-06 ball round from WW2 would punch right through it, modern pistol ammo won't.
@@nicholasthomas4382 That's true.
During WWII they used 7.92x57 and 30-06 for their issued rifle, and now we mostly use 5.56x45 or 5.45x39.
It's about drive
@@SEX_TRAINER it's about power
@@nicholasthomas4382 actually it is about the ammunition in that era / time and I'm pretty sure this helmet was made a couple of years after WW2 lol I never even said era in my comment
This kind of testing is what the military needs to see. I certainly would have had more confidence in our rifles back in Iraq 2003 if we could have found tests involving equipment that the Iraqis were using. I had just hoped that we would be effective in stopping whatever they were using at the time.
You mean a steel helmet? 😂 this kind of testing is exactly what the military did.
Sadly most Commands don't realize they can get testing footage and reports from Aberdeen Proving Grounds, and they usually don't have ready access to Jane's at Battalion and Company level unless they are MI.
@@zoiders Iraq army used South Korean made plastic/fiberglass helmets. They offered as much ballistic protection as a hard hat.
at least in 2003 you all had the 20 inch M16's. Meaning more velocity and stopping power
@@surfingtothestars More compared to what?
FYI the intro song is epic…. So epic that it’s now my ringtone😂😂😂
Great intro. Got a question what is the coat that you are wearing in this video?
The sparks and ricochet around from the 556 makes me really want to see you do that with a gel head inside!
I love all the Tarkov references your making. Lets just hope that game is available throughout WW3. Were all going to need that training when the War is over and everyone is living the life of a Scav.
LORD TACHNKA approves this helmet. Keep in mind that the helmet is for CT scenarios when worn for short period of time and not for the millitary operations for to be worn for days. Nice tests btw! Peace out!
Tachanka must be happy lol
finally the comment i was looking for
@@duelcomplexity I gotchu fam
It was the first thing I thought
LMG MOUNTED N LOADED🤣🙌
tachanka uses maska-1sch