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Hero Wars Alliance - Dante & Octavia META Episode
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- čas přidán 25. 12. 2023
- The new hero Octavia makes some trouble
and brought new things into the game:
► Explanation Octavia
► Explanation Dante
► Synergy effects
► Team setups
► Counter
Enjoy it!
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/ @herowarssuddendeath
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Great video - very insightful and inspiring...thank you.... already your fans are crying out for Oya!
Thank you very much 🙂❤️
Yeah oya will follow 🤣
We played you guys in GC today! was awesome seeing your guys lines! hoping my guild learns alot and levels up from here!
Hehe nice match 👍
Your guild has a good power level for your server 💪
Wish you and your guild the best ✌️
@@herowarssuddendeath Thanks! we are hoping to finish top 200 this season got 309 last and improved a lot! I think you guys have a real good shot at royal this season
Our titanhitters have some issues with solaris 🙃 if you face a guild with only max solaris lines, we have no chance 🙈
@herowarssuddendeath ahh mairi on offense could help a lot! That's what I run against alot them. Mairi/sigurd/3L
@Rhomsgaming yes 👍
But you need still a good solaris on your side 🙃 mort is also very helpful
my octavia is barely upgraded and she just helped me killed three max orange enemy (because she's hidden in the back and based on dodge she can't be touched no matter how weak she is unless they target the backline or a huge splash AOE occurs) octavia plus dante really is pretty strong, with aurora she is amps up her already strong dodge, with chabba you can keep him alive long enough to eat the enemies tank so your primary dps can shred their team (i'm a noob but this works) p.s i'm a free2play person, 2yrs playing and slowly upgrading everyone
Yeah she is great 👍💪as f2p you can enjoy the game 😉
As always mate, you put out another amazing video. Great content and like the others have commented I can't wait to see the Oya video.
Thank you very much my friend 🙂✌️
Thanks for amazing vids of Metas bro!! I always wait to you for understand new heros. PLS do vid of OYA
Thank you very much 🙂
Yeah Octavia is very complicated, so it was necessary 😂
Oya will follow 👍
Great vid! Been waiting for your oya feedback man, you are out like for 2 weeks
Thank you very much 🙂
Not easy to keep everything up 🙃
Thank you so much for the quality of the content and the time you spent on this! Fast question, I do not have andvari nor Satori, but I have Heidi and Nebula. Will a Maya Nebula Heidi with cleaver, asta or Ziri still work or do you still need Andvari? Thank you.
Cleaver is also good 👍
It depends on your opponent if you can use this heidi neb maya combo. Sometimes you are too slow and then you need Satori JF 🙃
There is also a workaround with TAF teams. It's often 9:1 so we try to avoid this 🙂 for example cleaver julius taf, or a jorgen arte fafnir (+martha)
Thanks for all of the quality videos you are putting out these days! Is there any ‘best’ Dante Octavia combo that deals with progress JJI+Neb+Ginger?
Thank you too 🙂❤️
It depends on rngs, so it's hard to get 100% results. I can recommend to avoid rngs on attack 😉
Dante Neb Heidi Astrid Oct made at least once 10:0 but then 6:4 🙃
Found out that FART with Galahad is nowdays doing its job also, since Galahad gained another attack power skin. Now he is cappable of doing nearly as much dmg as Artemis does.
Galahad is a great hero along with Tristan Fafnir 🙂 he provides the AP buff but the new crit stat pushed him a lot. If Fafnirs sword buff is active on him and he ults 🤩
Fantastic info!
Thx for your comment 🙂✌️
Thnx 😊
Thank you too 😁✌️
another awesome vid my man! "lovely gay" had me rolling."
Thank you very much 🙂 some jokes are a musthave 😁
love this video too. Waiting for Oya's :)
Thank you very much 🙂❤️
Oya will be the next but I need more informations about the counter 😂
@@herowarssuddendeath i countered jji astrid oya, mam oya with corvus morrigan iris nebula faceless by 10:0 (even can use low health dorian in place of nebula), to beat oya fart by 10:0 I used corvus morrigan iris faceless fafnir, to beat astaroth oya yasmine tristan fafnir I had to use corvus morrigan iris nebula and low armor maha. the last counter was not consistent with 10:0. But satori celeste amira + astaroth martha/ andvari cascade is very strong counter to oya yasmine tristan fafnir astaroth
Thanks ✌️👍
Great sharing man. Really appreciate your videos!
I have a couple questions:
I have focused on 3 lineups. 1 lineup is a FART with Cleaver and Julius which I won’t touch (that’s my 3rd lineup, weakest powered)
My 2nd lineup is: Aurora, Dante, Kiera, Dorian, Octavia.
My 1st (best) lineup is: Corvus, Morrigan, Iris, Isaac, Phobos.
Previously I have Dorian in Isaac’s place but I needed to balance my lineups so I moved Dorian to the second line.
What changes do you think I can do to minimise my changes to my current 15 heroes? Just wanna focus my resources instead of spending too much resources on too many.
I was thinking of a few of them:
Nebula,
Yasmine,
Jorgen,
Heidi
Which 1 or 2 of these do you suggest I train to strengthen my current lineups?
Thank you so much!
Thank you very much too 🙂
I'm actually not a big fan of Corvus 🙃
But I would put octavia dante together with morrigan. You can still use Corvus as tank. Iris fits there pretty well
I would build oya. She is very useful and you can combine her with keira or sub into your TAF team. Then you can go for Sebastian/Yasmine.
@@herowarssuddendeath thank you for your reply!
I was actually thinking of skipping Oya haha. Now I need to rethink.
So based on my current lineups, you think I should focus on building Oya first?
Building nebula/heidi for dodge, or Jorgen wouldn’t be useful?
@mrlester2769 jorgen is useful but you don't need much to use him sucessfully 😉
Oya is really good and has an amazing damageout with tristan. Her luring ability is crazy and very dangerous. And she provides selfhealing to crits 🙈
great video
Thank you very much 🙂❤️
Amazing video , had to watch it twice 😂
What do u think about Corrigan + iris + Doctavia
👍🙂 It's in theory nice but corvus is just a bad tank. Feels very useless now 🙃
I like dante iris and I used it in the past very often.
@@herowarssuddendeath don't call him bad tank when I've spent 40k skin stone in him 😭
Ok so what about
Dante iris faceless morrigan Octavia ?
I loved him really but the rework changed my love 🙃
You can use him, we need him often to counter kayla, so he isn't completely useless 😉 max health is required for his altar dmg. Faceless is a good addition because he can copy her ultimate. You need a stronger dante/morrigan for this dante tank
@@herowarssuddendeath ok thanks 🍕
What happened to Corvus? (What was he like before?)
I've only been playing for a month and currently only have 1 team (a team inspired by your YT channel profile photo 🤣 + Iris, Phobos)
Hi, you talk about slot 3 and 4. Can you explain the diference? For example Isac dont help julius in slot 3 o 4.
Hey, do have a timestamp?
@@herowarssuddendeath no i dont have. I replay de battles in 0.3 i look the diference
@nicolasmayer8615 are you talking about octavia dante? Or the oya video? 🙃
@@herowarssuddendeath octavia dante. You talk about position 4 and his importance
@@nicolasmayer8615 yes, now I got it 🙂 it's because of the counter heidi nebula (+xesha). Heidi attacks because of octavias violet skill the hero at position 4. The distance + timing are great that he is able to hit for over 300k. And this happens already after 12 seconds. That's why you should protect this spot with a high life hero like jorgen/martha/lilith
I use aurora, dante, nebula, iris and Octavia, very powerful team
Yeah that is true 👍 unfortunately also easy to counter at endgame level 😅 we are always happy to see iris in that line 😉
Yes, Amira is a hard counter to Iris 😂
I am also trying Dante, nebula, iris, Dorian and Octavia, how about this team
You can just counter it with dante octavia without iris 😅 i showed that in the video how many ults are flying around if you go with iris against dante oct 🙃 i think faceless would be a better option or phobos/lilith
Replace iris with alvanor lol
bro, can you give me suggestion or arena test
i want build this dante, nebula, octavia.. with heidi & the last (i dont know whos better synergi)
i started build iris before, but something i dont really like her & replace with heidi. i just dont want waste resource
is that team (dante, nebula, octav, heidi..) can beat TAF ? if its possible which hero i should put for the last
thank you
Hey, this dante teams are really strong 👍heidis early attack to the furthest hero has also a big disadvantage. TAF teams love it because it hits Fafnir = more energy and they have stuns... so you win only if you have the big dodge luck 🙃
Amira is still a good answer there and you can combine them. Lian seems to be a good choice as last one.
I tried 3 different TAF setup on attack 2:8/6:4/6:4
But it's also in the war mode, so in arena are you chance much better with that setup 👍
many thanks bro@@herowarssuddendeath
thanks for the video. I watched it third time I guess. lol. these dodge variations kill me. today I lost against corvus, morrigan phobos dante octavia team. What is best counter for it? satori team is a must after octavia-dante teams became popular?
Thank you too ☺️ yes the meta videos are made to watch them again and again 🤣 you need to experience it and then you will see this video with different eyes and understand the details more and more 😅
It depends on the gamemode too. At arena it's harder to beat and i can't test it. Good way to beat it TAF with Cleaver Julius. Other way andvari/cleaver maya nebula heidi dorian but you need timestop advantage
Which Octavia team do you think performs best on defense?
Hard to say 🙃 i saw so many different setups and everyone was at the beginning hard. You should protect your position 4 with a higher life hero.
Adding a crit supporter + sebastian on position 2/3 is a good idea.
i have question again
what if you put nebula & morigan in this team together instead replace each other?
its good or waste synergy?
The position is unfortunately not good because nebula stands behind morrigan. So dante doesn't get the boost. Otherwise it would be a great idea 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath 1 more, what if we put mushy ? is her mushrom can make advantage to octa like morigans skeleton do ?
(sorry i cant try it myself because my hero only few good build enough & lack resource)
thanks
@vif57 yes it works (even for the small ones)
I'm currently running dodge team with
Aurora Yasmine Dante Octavia Sebastian/Fafnir
I was thinking of swapping in Oya for either Dante but then I'd lose dodge, or for Sebastian/Fafnir but then I'd lose out on their support, any advice ?
Answer in the other comment 😄
I don’t have nebula but one of my 3 main teams is undead: Corvus Morrigan iris faceless Phobos. Would it be worth it to pump Octavia and Dante as subs for Phobos/faceless?
This team is especially strong in the defense. So if you want a good defense then I can recommand them 👍 it's much harder in the arena/grand arena
That's my Eternity team Corvus, Dante, Morrigan, Iris and Octavia. Also develop Keira, she's great after rework and very synchronized with Octavia.
Is there any down side if corvus is getting used as tank and Dante placed in second position?
In the defense definitely. The altar damage is nice for Heidi Dorian 😉
Since Morrigans rework I don't like Corvus anymore. He was so good before 🙃
@@herowarssuddendeath I mean, in octavia teams, I usually see Dante as tank, while corvus is also an eternity hero, so will get a triple dodge buff by octavia, and is much more reliable in terms of health and armor and magic defence than dante, so why is Dante chosen over corvus, for first position?
@@alisadegzadeh5463 Corvus is actually more squishy since there will be less dodge artifact buffs. But the main reason is Corvus' altar: it can very easily be used by the enemy to use 1 AoE damage dealer that can be healed with Dorian to ult insanely fast and often and take down your entire team. Like Heidi/Keira. This makes every team with Corvus a bad defence team
Takk!
🤩 wow thank you very much ❤️
Ayudame con una duda por favor:
Quiero tener en mi equipo ofensivo a Octavia, ..., ..., Dante y Aurora.
Que piel darle a Aurora y con que héroes me recomiendas llenar los espacios. Gracias, sigue adelante.
Actualmente manejo a "Iris y Nebula".
Iris Nebula should be fine 👍
Aurora needs all skins except armor 🙃
I would start with Health > default > Magic Penetration.
Gracias, me enamoré del juego por tu vídeo de Iris.
juegas: aurora / dante / iris / nebula / octavia ?? que tal te va con ese combo?
Early stage of the game probably very strong 👍 endgame not that good 🙂
Hello Master.. how to counter Corvus Dante Iris Morrigan Octavia.. please give me few team to beat them.. Thx..
Hey, best counter to this still dante neb heidi octavia + 1
It's a nasty combo but for us always a gift if you have the heroes above 🙃
Thank you..🙏@@herowarssuddendeath
You 100% right.. now is brawls hero in Herowars mobile.. I try your advise.. I can beat Octavia Iris Dante Morrigan Corvus...🙏 Thx... but Soleil also can defeat Octavia team.. Please make video about Soleil... Thx Master..
Was missing your video ...
Please consider making video on oya
Octavia made really problems in GC 🙃
Finding the counters took me the entire day 😂
Hahaha lols but at the u found it 😂🍕
Can't seem to find CONSISTENT/RELIABLE way to beat the pack of
Dante + Nebula + Phobos + Martha + Octavia
Would really appreciate any help/thoughts
It depends on your opponent upgrades and yours now?! Lvl 80 glyphs Dante? Do you have a cascade with more than 28k AP? Or do you have a LC with more AP than a max max dante? 🙃
Otherwise karkh is the only option 🤪
@@herowarssuddendeath Hey, mate o/ Thanks for reply!
I can't say for our opp's upgrades, but we defly don't have any 80 glyphs.
We do have Cascade with Phys ATK around 50K
LC? Lara Croft? If so, then we don't have her [ignored her completely]
And we were able to get 7-3 few times with K'arkh,
but it's still too unreliable
PS: Initially we thought that Heidi is the way,
but turned out he only charges Martha with energy...
I meant your opponents Dante 😉
Because of his armor value. So cascade needs penetration > dantes armor then you CAN hit hard with triple dmg. You can try Astaroth Arachne Judge Cascade Astrid.
@@herowarssuddendeath I see. We don't have Arachne, but it's alright.
I also wonder - will Cascade do his pure damage if target was able to dodge phys/mag one?
@Antagonopolis no it dodges completely. That's why you need the stunns
I don’t have Octavia. I missed the event. When will she come back?
It's hard to say but I would guess 1 year? 😅 sometimes you are able to buy her soulstones. It appears on the right side as offer. It's not the best offer but the only way
How to counter this octavia dante team?
Heidi/maya or Satori jorgen are the best counter. If you have TAF with stuns then you have also good chances
Octavia + Dante + Alvanor + Martha + Yasmine. Are this combo avalible ? I think also to Octavia Morrigan Dante Corvus Keira
It's of course possible but Alvanor blocks also a lot of damage, so you can counter it easily with jorgen. His aura is in front of dodge, so you can't dodge and it won't trigger Dantes blue skill 🙃
Can recommend to build oya, she has a lot of different use cases and she fits in many setups 👍
I'd like to use dante aurora and octavia but idk how to hard counter heidi while still having synergy, that monkey ruins my games
Yeah Heidi was one of those last upgraded heroes. So now he is necessary and everyone should have him to counter octavia teams 🙃
I was thinking about adding Lian as my 4° team member with nebula dante and octavia, is she a reliable counter against heidi?
She helps a little but not big.
Better is martha or jorgen
I tried Jorgen but i saw him stealing energy only from heroes in the first line and his curse has never damaged heidi's explosion back to him. What do you think about Amira?
Jorgen has over 600k life and he blocks the energy gaining with his ult. So heidi can't use his ult. That is pretty annoying for heidis team.
Amira should have the new talisman at this position. It depends of course on your opponent. Idk if they know how to use heidi neb or heidi neb xesha
Counter team?
Depends on the team 🙂
You go for 2 week 🥹
At the beginning I released only 1 video per 1-2 months 😂
Si quiero usar a Dante en primera linea con Keira, Nebula, Iris y Octavia me recomiendas comprar la piel de Salud o sigo con la de Daño.
Y muchas gracias por tus videos, si pudiera darte 1000 likes lo haria.
Thank you very much ❤️
This Octavia team is more defensive because you have not many options to win properly. If you use it like a normal team you will fail more often. You will make good damage but your opponent gets the energy.
Oya is very good. I would recommend to go more for her 😉
I am really torn apart between dante, nebula, heidi, marta, octavia
and JJI oya astrid. If it were u what would u take?
P.S. u didnt include dante nebula heidi as a off setup?
Oya Tristan would be my choice 😁✌️
Yes, Dante Octavia is more for a good defense because of many rngs. So it's an option for offense but it won't be reliable 🙃
Sry i didnt mention it but my 1st and 2nd team was fart+L/C and MAM+Oya+aurora.. both almost @400k+ i really need a 3rd and im thinking about these two dante/oct or jji astrid.. im more into dante/oct though ever since youve released your vid about it lol! You influence me so much haha!!!
It depends on your focus, do you want to attack in GC with 3 teams or do you just want to fill your 3rd defense team in GA/GC? Julius Isaac Astrid are very often in use on attack 🙂 they are very good and can be used against so many different setups 👍perhaps wait for your decision when the new class skills are released. Octavia benefits probably a lot 😂