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Back in 1963, before the legendary 426 Hemi.. another 426 roared under the hoods of a few choice cars. Today, it roars on Nick's dyno.
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Nick, Chrysler Industrial Engines 413,426 and I believe the 440 ran a gear drive like in your engine. They were installed on welders, water pumps and also were sold to wineries to run the large props that keep the fog from laying on the Grape crop and ruining the Grapes. I worked in the Machine shop of the local utility (PG&E) for 6 years and run into 20 or 30 of those engines.
He is absolutely the best old school hot rod mechanic there is.
Thanks for that!!
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@@NicksGarage Nick, how did you know which cam to choose for that engine ? lift, duration, etc ? mechanical or hydraulic ?
@@normhodgkinson6965 Factory cam specs are in the old mechanics books even the cam guys have it just ask for a stock cam for a 64 426 wedge they know what it is
@@79tazman yep, thanks. i was just curious whet the specs were. bottom line, 295-300 hp for that engine isn't good. a stock 440 is rated at 375 hp, which is conservative.
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@@NicksGarage it's a shame i missed this episode. Yes that is a marine engine. The 426 wedge marine is counter timed. Someone took it and tried to make a street motor out of it to make a few bucks. (For what it's worth Chrysler also made a "industrial" 413 wedge which is the same block, it's possible they made a 426 as well but i've never heard of it and my family is so mopar nuts we sleep under Darts) :)
This 426 has the power of a base level Chevy 350...
@PracticalTech - So true! And get better MPG as a bonus...
I really enjoy the diagnosis on these "mystery-built" engines 🙂
100 prrcent
Diagnosis?
@@r.d.riddle2068 As in terms of wear, breakage, etc.
I believe the Marine engines had a gear drive with reverse cam and distributor gear and also 426 Industrial engines also.
It used to run a Lathe or sheep sheering shed lol
The odd part is, reverse engines have gears and std rotation cam, albeit firing order, or chain, with reverse cut distributor gears.
But having both is just weird.
This suggests std rotation industrial? Because one reversal at gears plus second reversal at cam, means crank goes std rotation, else the oil pump would be going backerds . Weird
You know There are other makes of Engines that use gears instead of a chain to run standard clockwise crankshaft rotation, anticlockwise camshaft rotation right? Probably a mismatch in parts. Probably easier to change to the chain drive, and use off the shelf readily available parts, it's what I'd do. but when you are hell bent faniacial about how something left the factory, I would question why you couldn't find someone who could make the correct camshaft for it .
The Correct distributor Cap for it would have been made Of Bakelite.
Maybe a engine builder can chime in here, but don't you want to grind and polish the crank the opposite direction? Ie this could lead premature engine failure
If you look under some of the marine forums they talk about left and right had rotation Marine 426 wedges. There was also a marine 426 Hemi super rare. I have an original Chrysler brochure for the Marine 426 Hemi. 1962 and 63 was 413 for the max wedges.... 64 for the 426 max wedge and street wedge was available for 64-65 single 4 barrel 365hp and 470ft lbs. Marine and Industrial division made a lot of off the wall combinations in the 1950s and 60s. Recently in Mopar Collectors guide I read an article about a 70 440 six barrel set up for a military experimental vehicle! Also have a friend that has some military 361 wedge industrial engines still in the crates.
Donzi boats used 440 six packs
Herb. Bring your friend down with a crate engine and let's Dyno it.
Know what a guy might do with an industrial 413 set up for propane?
@@nickthompson9697 sell it to somebody in Northern Europe.. we love running LPG since regular gas is over 8$ per gallon
@@marks8068 know anybody?
Silliest thing I ever did when I sold a bunch of my drag racing stuff was selling my Max Wedge. Probably could fund my retirement if I would’ve waited to sell it till now.
Don't kick yourself John. Enjoy the memories.
I have some reverse stories to that. A local guy has a pristine 68 Shelby GT500KR - paid $1700 for it in 1972. Another has a 17k mile mint 67 GT500 ($2400 in 1974), a 70 nice Boss 302 ($2500 in about 1977) , and a disassembled but solid 68 W-code Cougar (under $2500 in the mid 70's). Mopars too - we repaired / restored a wrecked (front end body damage only) 70 Plum Crazy Charger RT 4-spd the owner bought in 1980 for $1000. It had sat since the accident in 1971 and was like opening a time capsule. The slightly older brother of a kid I went to elementary and junior high school with in Calgary was filling up his parent's back yard with every piece of Mopar muscle he could get his hands on at a time when they weren't worth dirt. The rest of us thought he was nuts. He didn't even have a beginner's license yet (under 14). I know he had at least two Hemi cars (he was really proud of those and insisted all of us listened from the school yard to him start them up in the back yard and rev them, because he couldn't drive them out of the backyard) and maybe a half dozen 440's and 383's he bought with his paper route money. Some people just gave them away to get rid of them. I always wonder what happened to Gary's collection....
@@scottb8175 . The good old days. Will they ever come back ?
Nick's garage is a gift in a tough year. Thanks Nick!!!!!
Amen to that.
Love the Mopar stuff. Back in the “era” I had a 383 in a 64 Fury, 4 speed.....beautiful car. Came home from Vietnam and spent LOTS of money on engine/suspension and promptly lost my license. Love your show and shop, Nick. Merry Christmas Semper Fidelis Dave Heitman
Merry Christmas, Eileen and Dave.
Gotta say, a 64 Fury, with a 4 speed of course, is my favorite Mopar, bar none. Love them from the I saw a brand new one n the local Food Giant in 64. It was a bronze colored Sport Fury with the tri-color bronze interior. A great looking car still.
My dad told me the story of a friends 64 Sport convertible 383 4-speed with Police Pursuit cam that blew the doors off a 327 Fuelie Vette. He said the idle wasn't your typical rough idle type. It sounded like it didn't....want.....to...run. He had heard State police cruisers that idled like that back then,too. I would love to find the specs for that cam and try and match it.
My buddy had a Dart 383 4spd, man what an ass rippin little car, blue with the white stripe on the trunk, sharp SOB
@@JrGoonior .580 lift or better, they ran.
Marine for sure. Came out of a twin screw boat with counter rotating props
Actually I think its from an Onan genset. I bought a genset from a demo'd building years ago and it had the exact config OMC was the only marine company using wedge engines in the 60s and 70s, they used velvet drives and reversers. I dont necessarily think your wrong, but an engine with no port area corrosion, no obvious issues and looks pretty much factory is probably a genset engine. At that time, the 413 was not being built by chrysler, so for new 100 and 150KW natural gas units, they used the 426, I think until 67? possibly later until Onan dropped Chrysler as an engine supplier. Almost every building from 1964 to 1970 thats still up today has an onan standby genset with a Chrysler engine that drives the elevators in power outages and will be located in the elevator house at the top of the building.
@Don Adamson Also Dump trucks used this engine
@@blackopsrocks .....You, sir, are spot on!
@@blackopsrocks
"Brain Fog & No Longer Sure!"
Didn't "All Genset Generators" with a 426 wedge or "Otherwise"...* (IE: Cummings Sm./Lg./VLg. Diesels) used for crucial uninterrupted backup power for Lg. HSPTL's, elevator sys's, Manu process's (IE: oil/steel)..."Immediately" Rev up to Max Rpm's, & Remain Close to preset "MAX," for the Duration of demand for power; Regardless of high & low Variables for current demands?
Thus IMO, This 426 wedge with a geared cam, was already Proven reliable and capable, of Sustaining "Constantly Close to Max Rpm's even while under Heavy loads!" Therefore this is why, it was the "Perfect Engine" for Winning Indy 500 Races...But was "BANNED," because it was To Good of a setup!
PPS. As I was writing the above post, I found this info...
In 1965 & 66, testing of a A117 Proto Type 426 Race Hemi with a Gear Driven cam & aluminium heads, took place...
It is Marine application for sure - But it does not affect the crankshaft rotation (marine twin screw setups use a transfer box to spin the props in the opposite direction)
One day Vasily is going to look back on his life and think.... Man was I lucky. In the land of Mopar, there's nothing better than a "Dyed in Wool" Mopar master to learn from. Merry Christmas men.
Also, "I should have worn earplugs. WHAT!!??"
@@dclipper8052 Yeah vasily will have to be one of the first ear transplant recipients if he wants to keep hearing these engines for the rest of his life.
413 industrials have a reverse-ground cam for gear-to-gear drive, saw it as a kid when my neighbor did the gears on his Travco motorhome with the 413HT engine. The later industrial wedge was an underbored 440 block, very thick walls in a 413 or 426, can be bored at least to 440 +.060" oversize!!
Thanks. We'd be interested to find out about this engine's history.
Agree. Chrysler built industrial & marine engines with gear drive camshafts. If the engine came that way (gear drive not an after thought) then the engine should be an industrial/ marine application. Some of the early 413 industrial engines had totally different cylinder heads, you would not even think that they were B engine heads.
The last 413 I saw was in a Warner & Swasey Gradall. It was the carrier engine. The other engine was a Detroit Diesel. They're scarce as hen's teeth now. Oh, while I'm thinking about it, MERRY CHRISTMAS and a safe and HAPPY NEW YEAR, NICK!
@@NicksGarage That will be interesting to watch. Keep up the good work. The low compression & low HP figures indicate + the crank flange thing sure does indicate an industrial engine. An actual 413 w/ 906 heads?
@@NicksGarage Do the numbers on the block not tell you much?
Years ago I was looking for a 426 Hemi crank with the eight bolts for the flex plate. A some slick operator who drove a flared 'Cuda sold me an eight-bolt crank that looked fine. I assembled the engine and discovered that it wouldn't mate to the transmission bellhousing, just like the one here. Turns out it was a 413 truck crank, and the guy knew it.
Nick is "old school" not just because of his knowledge, but also his integrity.
sticking a borescope in it and looking for cross hatch all the way upon the cylinders and clean exhaust valves would confirm at least they attemped a Rebuild,
fantastic, a friend of mine won the winter nationals with a wedge head in 64 they were great engines back in the day, still are as far as i am concerned.! I am 83 love old school and NICKS GARAGE! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! THANK YOU
I remember the first car I worked on was a 73 Charger with the BB 400 I had. I did a tune-up and when I started it, it would idle but was not drivable. It was missing and backfiring when you touched the gas. I learned the difference between clockwise and counter clockwise firing orders that day. I loved that car. My dad found it for me when I was 19 for $120 in 1989. Remember the day gasoline hit $1 a gallon for the first time and was mad because of how much I had to fill up the Charger all the time
Timing gear setup is marine engine application , checked it out on line. Go MOPAR, on the road or on the water. building a 1965 coronet a wedge engine would look great under the hood .Thanks for the great videos stay safe
Had a '65 many years ago w/a 383-4V and factory dual exhaust. That thing would fly!
Thanks for a GR8 year of Detroit symphonies from the dyno cell. Best wishes for '21
I had a 6.2 Chevy diesel that I bought used. It would not move the gauge off the peg at a hot idle and had about 20 lbs at cruising speed. I needed the vehicle so I took a chance and ran it. It ran 2 years and blew a head gasket. When I tore it down the front cam bearing was completely out if the bock and bouncing around on the cam between the block and the first lobe. The rod & main bearings looked as good as new. I decided that low oil pressure wasn't as bad as I had always believed.
Street wedge horsepower was 365. I have had 9 of these not really that fast about 2/10 faster than a 383 but I love them.
Street wedge had a lot better compression ratio these were dished probably 7.5.1.
@@karlsracing8422 heads probably did it. 426 heads were better. This one has later heads on it
If the customer has the means, he should have Nick rebuild this beauty so he can enjoy maximum performance and reliability with total confidence. Cool engine!
Nick is cool and you can tell he is happier around Mopar stuff
That cam and timing gear setup was awesome when it was an upgrade
Just really enjoy the fact that Nick is old school. I'm 57 and have been wrenching all my life. Great video's Nick! keep them coming.
Every time, I mean EVERY time I watch one of Nick’s videos I learn something. I learned about the gear drive and reverse cam on a 426 wedge that I didn’t know about AND I learned that now I REALLY want to put a B or RB wedge in my 56 Chevy. This engine family is so cool. Thanks, Nick, and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to you all.
Merry Christmas, Paul. Let's all keep on learning in the New Year.
Another Monday morning at Nick's Garage. Coffee in hand, brain absorbing MOPAR smarts from Nick! Bill from Linglestown Pennsylvania
Thanks for being here, Bill.
Hey Nick I see you have a passion for melling oil pumps. I work for a company and we process many parts for melling oil pumps. We are a tier one supplier proud of the work we do
thank you Nick it's pure gold getting to hear that engine roar.......
Low compression, gear drive for the cam and a different crankshaft flange, sounds like he got himself an industrial or marine engine.
Genset engine.
It was setup for counterclockwise crankshaft rotation.
That is a Commando 290 marine engine. Your power findings are on the money. That cam and the drive gears are worth some money to a guy rebuilding one of those.
Yes! Straight outta a Chris Craft Constellation. They used Ford 431 but had some Mopars when stock was low in 63.
Good thing it didn’t still have the reverse starter. Got burnt many years ago with one from a salvage yard they took from a reverse rotation marine engine, talk about trying to troubleshoot that no start issue. ….lol
I watched those Mopar's drag race back when they were new . Cross Ram induction looks so COOL . Great video
Absolutely the best engine builder on CZcams by far very professional and very critical I love watching you work sir it's seriously art
Thank you for your kind comment, and thanks for watching, Jonathan.
Could be a air raid siren engine too.
Reverse marine engines also had the grooves on the crankshaft for the rear main seal backwards.
great call I forgot that one.
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Merry Christmas Nick. What joy you've given me watching your channel. I'm 66 years old and worked on these things in the early 70's. Great videos thank you.
NICK. I FOLLOW YOUR CHANEL FOR A LONG TIME. GREW UP IN THE 60s AND DROVE A 442 OLDS. BUT NOTHING EVER COMPAIRED TO A HEMI..MY BUDDY HAD A 69 HEMI CUDA AND WE RACED ONE DAY AND I GOG MY DOORS BLOWN OFF REALLY BAD. WHAT A GREAT CAR THE CUDA IS..ISNT IT AMAZING HOW FAR ENGINES HAVE COME TODAY..I NOW HAVE A 1200 HP NISSAN GTR THAT RUNS 8.61@ 171 IN THE QUARTER AND ITS A SIX CYLINDER STREET CAR WITH FULL INTERIOR AIR CONDITIONING AND EVERYTHING.. CRAZY WORLD TODAY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, ILL KEEP WATCHING.....
(My two cents on the cam)
Please note that I currently have a similar timing set on a 302 that is built for marine applications. And I've encountered them periodically while working on boats.
The counter rotation actually served a purpose. That being vibration reduction. One major difference between auto and marine is that marine engines are bolted solidly to the keel of the boat. And that meant that vibrations created by the engine will transfer directly to the hull on the boat. Which brings us to harmonics. And the fact that a seemingly cool engine lope in a car can pretty much rip a wood boat apart at idle. In a fiberglass or aluminum hull the sound can transfer directly to the water creating sound waves that disturbs fishes and deafens whales. Over time the vibration can harm even steel hull.
The reverse cam does result in a strange firing order. But that's basically it. I do have a pet theory that a counter cammed engine can idle with a slightly more aggressive profile than a normal engine. And they don't rip themselves apart from running wide open all day long.
The gear to gear timing set is bulletproof in my experience. I've never heard of one failing on its own merit.
While unusual these days in an auto, I believe that there are a bunch of these out on the water. Like I said. They don't fail. Those will outlast any engine they are attached to.
Also on a reverse rotation engine the reverse cam would result in a "normal" firing order. This is relevant because many twin engine boats are equipped with engines that rotate in opposite directions because of gyroscopic torquing which will result in your boat pulling in one direction. Or turning one direction more readily than the other.
If the lobe pattern was changed on the reverse cam it could be the same firing order as the street cam.
Thank you good video😁😁
That is a beauty. The max wedges with the long intake runners and the early Hemis with paired gold air cleaners are the coolest looking motors. My grandpa had a 58 Fury. He just called it the Golden Commando and it had the factory 350 with dual quads. I was born to late to see it, but it was probably a cool looking engine compartment. He told me he would go to the service station, probably a Sunoco, and would have the kid check the oil. He said the kid's eyes would get really big and he would signal his co-workers to come over.
Mr. Nick, I recently watched the video on the 426 wedge engine. You spoke of the timing gear set in the engine. It has been a long time, but I have seen this timing set on another 426 wedge. Engine was primarily used in boats. Like Yachts. My Brother had a 52 ft.ChrisCraft boat and the boat had two of this engines deep in the hull. They had power and loved the fuel.
Like your videos. I was a mechanic for many years. Disabled and retired now.
Thank You
Terry
Yup - reverse run and low HP - marine. Look at the front configuration - it’s a clue. I never get tired of hearing dyno runs for big blocks! Sound is sooooo boss!
I’m not really a Mopar man but the 383 always impressed me, I’ve seen them spank bigger motors with no sweat, well, maybe a little lol. And the 340 too, what a giant killer.
My Christmas wish is NICKS GARAGE got my dad's 1998 Chevy Cavalier engine who passed in 2007 running again.
MERRY CHRISTMAS NICK AND VASILE AND ALL GEAR HEADS AND KNUCKLE BUSTERS ! 🎅
Watching Nick is like being at the school of making horsepower properly and learning is never more awesome! 😎
Years ago a friend changed his wires on a 350 chevy but couldn't get it started because the wires were not on the correct cylinders, I said to him I can get it done in 5 minutes. He said no I can do it only 1 wire is wrong. I tried to tell him that it cant be 1 wire wrong, its either 2 wires are wrong, 4 6 or all 8. He wouldn't listen. I said ok and came back 5 hours later and he and his brother were still working on it!
I've come across this in some ford 351w engines where they used a 302 cam in them and didn't tell anyone. It totally changes the firing order!
nice story,relevance?
I seen a great thing Vasily looked at spark plug on the way to the bench. When the torch is passed he will have the passion to keep these old cars going.
I built one of these engines. It was stolen during the Oil Crisis. It was balanced Heads CC'd three barrel Holley, stage 3 rods 440 six pack crank TRW pistons Sox and Martin damper, titanium valve springs, Crane cam, and only thing I hope is the low lifes that stole it tried a different intake manifold due to milled heads the intake was cut to match the ports and a different manifold would not match up with out cutting the angle. It was also balanced and blueprinted heads CC'D. Stock body 68 Charger with 410 rear going low 12's in 1972. Never was able to get car to its potential due to gas shortage. I was very upset when my 68 Charger wound up in junk yard.
It's an early truck engine. Here in OZ we have the same set up with the B-series 361 used in Australian Dodge trucks. The 413 truck is the same, timing gears, reverse cut dissy drive.
It was for high mileage heavy duty applications to eliminate timing chain stretch and ensure reliability with heavy load wide open throttle as is the usual running condition for heavy trucks.
One of my instructors in Voc School had a retired 'Dick Landy' Dodge with a 426 Phase 3 Wedge.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!
I like Nick's style. because Nick and the guys that work for him are mature and don't strive for being the funniest. keep up the good work Nick!!!
I was a junior in high school when we started seeing Plymouths with the 426 hood emblem. That sure was impressive to us teen dudes. A few of the senior kids had after school jobs and they were ordering those Plymouth and Dodge with the 426. Wow, what a time to be 17, 18 years old.
Good to see Vacelli taking care of business Nick’s right hand man Merry Christmas from Georgia.
Thank you guys,
Great Christmas to all
Central California Watching
Hi Nick,
Chrysler was the only company that
converted their gas engines to marine
inhouse. They designed almost everything, cooling systems, water cooled exhaust manifolds, bell housings, engine mounts etc.The
automotive style circulating pump looked similar but had a non directional
bronze impeller and a salt water compatible seal. The oil pump
was set up with external hoses that were attached to a bronze engine oil cooler
pressed the send button by mistake.
The Borg Warner velvet drive transmission was purchased and didn't
reverse engine output direction. The opposite rotation (rh) engine turned clockwise looking from the back of flywheel looking toward the front of the engine.
Standard rotation (LH) engines (automotive) turn Counterclockwise as you well know. Years ago reverse rotation for twin engine boats was made turning the engine 180 degrees
and hooking the tranny to the front of the crankshaft. WAY before my time
working around boats! Opposite rotation engines were designed with
special cams and either chain or gear
drive. The distributor and oil pump
always turned the same direction as the standard LH engine. Current marine
engines achieve opposite rotation by running the starboard engine in reverse. Modern marine transmissions
( actually called reverse gears) can operate in forward or reverse continuously. Chrysler made marine
engines going back to their 6 and
8 cylinder flathead engines, slant six
and most of their V-8s. I even remember
some original Hemi marine engines
with 2 4barrel carbs and those gigantic
chrome valve covers. I think they were
354 ci and 275 hp The RB marine engines were about 8.5 -1 compression
ratio and were rated at about 4000 rpm. The 413 was 290 Hp the 426 was
about 300hp and the 440 was 330hp.
Your engine was not marine with that
oversize crank flange. Chrysler Marine
also had a 440 six pack rated at 375 at
4600 rpm also a race 426 hemi rated
at 525 hp. Never saw the hemi engine.
In 1970 I bought brand new Chrysler Super Bee lll 340 ci marine engine with
a Volvo outdrive complete package.
The engine was hemi orange with black
crinkle finish valve covers. it was rated
at 4600 rpm but no hp RATING! The standard 340 inboard was 250 hp @ 4000 rpm. I called Chrysler Marine and
found out they put HD 318 marine cyl heads on my 340. My Super Bee was also equipped with the automatic transmission car cam. Put on the
triple carb cyl heads, Offy 4 barrel
intake and eventually a 340 standard shift cam which added about 100 rpm
and idled just fine. The stock big AFB
worked great.A borrowed 715 Holley
didn't make a difference. My maximum
rpm went from 4600 stock to 5350 with the mods and always the same
propeller. A boat prop is like a dyno
so you can guesstimate the Hp increase. Ask me what I payed for the
for the Super Bee lll package in 1970!
In 1963 my sister bought a new 426 wedge Plymouth, 2 fours with 3 on the floor. Badass little car. It was competitive with the hemis at the track.
Did you replace the cam bushings when you put in the new cam? Maybe that's why it has low oil pressure?
Low oil pressure is because of excessive crank bearing clearances or the oil pump needs to be shimmed if it's a stock oil pump that isn't a high volume . Cam bearing could cause low pressure but if this happens on a wedge the cam bearing that's not installed or is offset from the oil gallery hole will cause the cam bearing to spin from lack of oil pressure to that particular cam bearing & although the wedge uses 5 different cam bearing sizes they seldom have cam bearing issues as long as they are put in correctly & the oil holes are lined up on the block to cam bearing oil holes but sometimes a bearing knife might have to be used to loosen a tight fitting bearing up enough that the cam can be slid into that particular cam bearing being all the other cam bearing are different sizes . Also mopar wedge engines if a lifter comes out while the engine is running the oil pressure drops from normal to about 5 psi instantly & won't increase pressure even if the engine is revved to a higher rpm because the lifter is out of the lifter bore allowing all the oil pressure to escape out of that lifter bore that the lifter has come out of so if all of a sudden you are driving a long & the oil pressure drops way low & stays that way & the engine isn't running on all 8 cylinders it's probably a lifter that came out of its lifter bore from a bent push rod or lifter failure .
10 pounds per 1,000 rpm is sufficient for a street car.
Greetings from your neighbors in Maine!Nice to see a 426 Wedge in your shop! Never seen a timing gear that turns CC on a MoPar engine before (great investigation work!) Hope you all have a Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, Maine. Have a lobster roll or two for us.
Nick, my first car, a 1956 Plymouth Savoy.
318 Poly, and 3 on the tree. Yes, a four
door.
Cost me an AMAZING twenty five dollars.
Man, 2 cars I wish I had back. That Savoy,
and my 1970 road runner.
(Well, there is the '72 240 Z Datsun.)
steve
1971 Superior motor home (413 industrial engine)had gears on it just like that,but it it also had many of the perf. parts from the factory including a steel crank(not a truck crank)
This is made for multi-engine apps like seen in tractor pulls, and at one time drag racing. Twin prop aircraft routinely use one clockwise, and one counter clockwise engines to neutralize gyroscopic effects.
I looked it up. 426 wedge 1963.
425 hp. With a cr. Of 12:1 .
Happy holidays to you & your team.
Correction ,
426 street wedge from 1963
365 hp. With a C.R. of. 10.3 : 1
Comando was a nick name for this block as well by plymouth.
That was specs for a MAX Wedge, Jeff. This motor is a street wedge with later year cylinder heads that had a bigger combustion chamber than the original heads that came on the motor which lowered the compression ratio from original. I am confused about making more power with only 31° though.
@@mickangio16 . We ran 87 octane on this low compression engine. I think this engine was far away from a good quench which had detonation with 34 degrees on it, also less HP.
I had a 426 Max wedge, which i offered to the guy who had the car it originally came from. He wasn't interested as ran a 440. (duh) . Things have changed in the last couple decades. i have seen BB mopars as twin sets for boats, a left hand and a right hand unit so one ran in reverse. I knew a guy who bought a low hour set cheap because of the same problem, someone had the engines mismatched.
What I noticed right away was the puffing out the breather tube, as if it had some really weak compression rings. A full compression / leakdown test would've been interesting. I love it when Nick and the guys get these mysterious "rebuilt" engines in the shop!
Merry Christmas because at Nick's Garage it's the usual business This 426 Wedge takes performance to the edge Having good close look the engineering is off the hook it's a legend in any muscle car mans book In some Dyno testing it's well worth investing No good in guessing with an engine or it might throw a rod and a piston it'll be ingesting Will the wedge earn Nick and Vasilis blessing ? Shout out from London Thanks for all the great shows this year Merry Christmas Nick George Vasilis Manny Devin and your families and anyone I missed and the viewers I raise my glass It's been a total pleasure watching you take these projects to task!
Glad i found this channel for mopars lol. Been watching you since the first kowalski build. Every car show i watch always does fords and chevy’s, and never dodge or chysler products. The olny car show that does Chrysler products is graveyard cars and this channel right here. It gets boring seeing the same camaro, nova or chevelle with the same chevy motor. Then you look at drag cars at the track and they all run chevy engines for the reliability and they are cheap to build. Definitely cool seeing these chysler engines pushed to the limits. Them chevy boys forget that the 426 hemi was the king of the street. 😂😊
Mike Finnegan of Finnegan’s Garage runs Mopars, and the Dylan McCool channel is mostly Mopar.
This is the top channel for useful info.
Just simple stuff that gets glazed over to show flashy parts on other channels.
I've seen similar setups for the timing in a gleaner combine. The only engines I saw in all 3 of the bigger machines were 383 engines. The smallest one was a 4 row picker that had an aluminum block 318 and one had a 426 but it had sat opened up with no carb or plugs for 40 years. I'm not a mopar guy but I love old engines. I've built several, mostly Ford FE engines and Windsor family motors. I do love working with 429/460 series engines simply because they are easy to build and forgiving. Plus the bolt holes done go into the water jacket or oil galleries.
Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all at Nick's Garage! Love the trouble shooting and fixes.
Merry Christmas Nick to you and yours. I was surprised you got the 300 hp with that compression but then again it's a Mopar. Good job guys 👍
Big engine that's one reason. Back's it up i guess lol.
My Dad had a 1956 Ford step side with a 413 chrysler, 727 trans and Chrysler rear end, eventually he put a Cordoba front clip on the steering, that truck burned the tires as long as you wanted to almost.
Thank you Nick, George, Vasilli and all of your little Mopar elves. You have brought so much pleasure and knowledge to myself and many others. May you all have a peaceful and joyful time with your families and let's all look with hope and excitement to a happy new year. Merry Christmas everyone from England 🇨🇦🇬🇧🎅
Merry Christmas Nick and gang. Thank for your gifts of videos!
And, we'll see you next time......
gear driven cams were an after market option for this engine for race applications
Thanks Merry Christmas. I do like the shirt. I live by the chrysler plant in Fenton, they tore it all down a few years ago. My father in law says they used to race the chargers coming off the line back in the 60s.
Thanks again and thank you for all the videos
One of my cohorts parents had a 426 Dodge Monaco 1966. It was a performance monster faster than many so called muscle cars of the era.
Good job Nick👍
MERRY CHRISTMAS To Nick And All The Guys At NICK'S GARAGE! Happy Holidays To ALL!!
Hi Nick, Ford made a 427 300hp marine engine and Chevy made 454 marine Chris Craft engines too. Both had reverse rotation engines for the starboard side engine and standard rotation for the port engine. The 427 Ford FE had 8.9:1 compression and would idle at 500rpm for fishing. With the two water/exhaust manifolds and AFB carb the engine weighed 1143 lbs! The 454's were called Left and Right Hand Rotation Crusader 454's Mark IV's. Marine Industry Standards dictate that we view the engine from the flywheel side.
Flywheel rotating CCW is LH or Standard Rotation.
CW is RH or Reverse Rotation. What's done from there will be a result of engine orientation, transmissions, etc.
The firing order for the GM Reverse Rotation is just opposite, beginning from #1 cylinder. The crankshaft and camshaft dictate this.
Due to the oil pump, the distributor will rotate standard on both engines. Only the cam and distributor change (other than a thrust load bearing within RH engine the distributor) Additionally, the Chrysler 426 Marine engine with a single 4 barrel in the mid 60s was rated at 290 HP, the later 440s were up to 330 HP The highest rated marine big block Chrysler wedge was the 440+6 "Mover" from 71-73 with 375 HP, and this motor had 10.5 to 1 compression requiring 100 octane fuel. The crankshaft in the 426 was longer so that a Mandella V-Drive adapter, which had a tow ball or tow hook on top of it for skiers, could be installed. I am not saying that is what the gear drive you had was from just that it's a possibility the gear drive and camshaft were from the a rev-rotation setup at one point.
That is simply a camshaft and gear setup for marine applications (seen this many times). There are many engines that use this method - More reliable than a standard timing chain and gear setup. The crankshaft still turns in the conventional direction (and can be ordered for reverse rotation crankshafts)but the camshaft turns in the opposite direction with the lobe design and placement done so that you still have the same firing order and can be custom ordered to accept other firing orders. The same applies to Ducati motorcycle engines (the camshafts turn opposed to the crankshaft)
Love seeing max wedge for the first time. Sounds like a stroker motor. Like to see how much power with higher compression. Good call on checking compression and changing wires. 👍
In a few years, Vasilly will be an absolute expert on Mopars...if he's not already. Imagine the things he's learnt here.
Right on. Vasilis is an outstanding young man.
I used to have a '63 Imperial LeBaron with a 413, dual inline 4 bbl carbs, pushbutton auto. Really liked that car. it would idle around town all day and then pull 130 top end :) Great all-around car that was really easy to spot LOL That 426 was made for water not land. It still sounded so good though...sweet!
Hello Nick. I love to watch your Mopar vids. Im a chevy guy but I have a situation with a 440 wedge motor stuck in a 31 model A. Customer bought in in for wiring and once I got it done and fixed up. We found he had engine issues. Head gasket blown. So after taking the heads off I found more issues so the customer took the motor and had it all rebuilt. Brought it back to me and I put it in. I can not break in the cam because the headers get so hot they get cherry red in just a very short time. Long before thermostat at 185 opens. Im afraid to run it long enough the check anything. All my brain says valve timing but the engine builder says not. Says he checked it all. With non adjustable rockers I have to believe he is telling me the truth. Im sure the carb is not leaned out too much. The headers get hot so fast the plug boots melt off. I put ceramic plug wires and it melted the rubber inside the ceramic boot. Static timing is 8 degrees and new Mallory unilite. I can not run it long enough to break in the cam or tune anything. Im still leaning to valve timing but the intermediate shaft between the distributer and pump is the only item I installed on the long block. Other than normal items. Intake oil pan ect. Not being a Mopar guy Im running at a loss of knowledge on this engine. I have double checked distributer install and and have it at about 8degress advance and that's about all I can do before it cooks a plug boot. The headers are garbage and I have dimpled the tubes but still hitting plug boots. Do you have any thoughts on what to check next or what could be a problem to check. Seems valve related but builder say not. If it had adjustable rockers I would say the valves need adjusting. Buikder says not. Any ideas sure would help.
Merry Christmas Nick. Not a better gift to myself than watching your dyno room
And this is why Nick is known in the Mopar world...he knows when he sees something that's not quite right...that it needs attention!
Every experienced quality engine builder has the same ability.
I have that exact same Innova timing light. It does not disappoint.
I learn something new ever time I see one of Nick's videos. Reverse timing gear set and cam shaft, I had no idea.
Hi Nick
This wedge needs your special touch, i hope your client lets you rebuild it , it would make for a great video .... the power gained from a proper rebuild versus as you tested it today
That would be interesting to see.
I agree now you have a baseline. This “old girl” deserves > 400 HP on the dyno. Do it right and make it strong !!!
The heartbeat of a land yacht !!!
Nice Christmas touch, and 426 under the tree. I have a lump in my throat.
Merry Christmas, Bruce.
@@NicksGaragethank you same to you sir!
The 426 wedge in my '65 Century Coronado is rated at 325 HP. My boat has [as ordered when new] dual inline AFBs. MOPAR option, not aftermarket.
Finally a dyno video, this is what brought me to the channel in the first place. Merry Christmas everyone!!!
From my family to yours, Merry Christmas Nick`s Garage. Stay safe, God Bless.
Enough of that "stay safe" horse sh*t. This pandemic is a HOAX PANDEMIC. The so-called "Corona virus" is no more deadly than the common flu!
The customer brought the engine to the right place, now it'll be done right or better than the other person who built it.
My sister had 1962 Cornet with a 426. It had a Hurst shifter. She knew how to speed shift. She won a lot of races.
Nick, everybody raves and raves about the hemi. That's fine. But the 426 Max Wedge is a force to be reckoned with. With proper set up, the Max Wedge is one hell of a NASCAR blaster in all cast iron configuration. I just love these things along with the 413s. The 413 solid flat tap was in my 68 Super Bee, 4 speed 3:23:1 sure grip. Damn, I wish I had it back. What a monster.
A 426 on the Dyno Christmas has come early at nicks garage.
We're glad you could join us. Merry Christmas.
Pistons are facing the opposite way in an reverse rotation marine engine , notch will be facing rear not front . That should be addressed .
Thank you Nick. I always find myself watching you before I head to work. Your comment about a Honda civic having more compression then this motor absolutely had me laughing out loud. Keep up the great work and content.
Nick. the 426 wedge the timing gears we’re standard for 361 industrial engines. You’ll never have slack in the timing chain
The firing order is exactly the same as the timing chain engines because the gear on the cam and the oil pump drive make the distributor turn the direction it’s supposed to